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| 03:29.01 | eightyeight | ~onjoin sjansen will you kick aaron out of still-gurus? obrigado! |
| 03:29.02 | ibot | eightyeight: ok |
| 03:29.54 | eightyeight | ~onjoin sjansen will you kick aaron out of still-gurus por favor? obrigado! |
| 03:29.54 | ibot | eightyeight: ok |
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| 15:07.57 | goozbach | still gurus, I should re-join that |
| 15:09.54 | eightyeight | ~onjoin -sjansen |
| 15:09.54 | ibot | ok, eightyeight |
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| 15:11.00 | eightyeight | phew! barely missed that one! ã |
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| 16:13.21 | unum | I found 6gb just sitting around on my linode .... |
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| 16:22.59 | jsmith | unum: 6gb of your own data? Someone else's? |
| 16:24.10 | unum | jsmith: free space |
| 16:24.38 | jsmith | unum: Oh? Lucky you :-) |
| 16:24.54 | unum | ya |
| 16:25.18 | goozbach | as soon as I have a local copy of the RHEL6 isos I'll be freeing about that much space on my linode |
| 16:37.51 | Gate | uh hoh: var hintTextDone = false; |
| 16:37.54 | Gate | ... |
| 16:38.02 | Gate | NOT what I thought was in my copy buffer |
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| 20:15.32 | jsmith | sjansen: More harfbuzz goodness: http://hacks.mozilla.org/2010/11/firefox-4-font-feature-support/ |
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| 20:58.28 | tristanrhodes | I saw this Hubble photograph for the first time, and the first thing I thought of was FireFox.... http://i.space.com/images/besthubble_v838_02.jpg |
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| 21:41.46 | tarrant | Anyone know a command to get me the kb/s (or mb/s) of network io? |
| 21:42.17 | goozbach | man... RHEL6 is nice |
| 21:42.27 | goozbach | but I want my ssh key-based login to root |
| 21:42.52 | tarrant | goozbach: why can't you edit /etc/ssh/sshd.conf and set root=nopassword |
| 21:43.06 | goozbach | sjansen: have you seen the boolean to toggle to allow me to login via an ssh key for root |
| 21:43.10 | goozbach | tarrant: I've fixed that |
| 21:43.16 | goozbach | it's an SELINUX problem |
| 21:43.19 | tarrant | Ah |
| 21:43.21 | goozbach | they've locked it down somehow |
| 21:43.28 | goozbach | when I do setenable 0 |
| 21:43.30 | goozbach | it works |
| 21:43.43 | goozbach | when selinux is enabled it doesn't |
| 21:43.53 | goozbach | and I can't see anything via getsebool -a |
| 21:43.59 | goozbach | which looks like it would be the thing to change |
| 21:45.26 | goozbach | NM I just had to do restorecon -R /root/.ssh |
| 21:45.31 | goozbach | it was the wrong context! |
| 21:47.41 | eightyeight | setenforce, you mean |
| 21:47.46 | eightyeight | ã |
| 21:47.51 | TehLaser | nettop? |
| 21:48.47 | TehLaser | atop can do that too, I think. |
| 21:49.57 | sjansen | atop is for anarchists |
| 21:50.05 | goozbach | eightyeight: yeah |
| 21:50.11 | sjansen | ~goozbach++ |
| 21:50.32 | goozbach | the biggest problem was they had moved the selinux logs |
| 21:50.37 | goozbach | they're now in /var/log/audit |
| 21:50.48 | goozbach | once I found those, It was pretty simple to get it fixed |
| 21:51.10 | sjansen | Right, they're in /var/log/audit on RHEL5 also, if you install auditd. |
| 21:51.50 | goozbach | guess I've not had any selinux probs in RHEL5 |
| 21:52.07 | goozbach | ... come to think of it I've usually disabled it in RHEL5 CENTOS5 |
| 21:52.15 | goozbach | I know I know... |
| 21:52.17 | sjansen | ~goozbach-- |
| 21:52.18 | goozbach | I shouldn't do that |
| 21:52.35 | goozbach | I will however not disable it (except to troubleshoot) for RHEL6 |
| 21:52.38 | goozbach | I promise |
| 21:53.16 | sjansen | Are you familiar with setroubleshoot / sealert? |
| 21:53.39 | goozbach | familiar, no; but I know of them |
| 21:53.48 | sjansen | sealert is the bomb |
| 21:54.36 | goozbach | setroubleshoot is the GUI version no? |
| 21:54.46 | goozbach | I don't want to install any gui bits in this server |
| 21:54.52 | goozbach | I even did the install with nocore |
| 21:54.57 | goozbach | that's how hardcore I am |
| 21:55.29 | eightyeight | ~goozbach++ |
| 21:55.33 | eightyeight | ~sjansen-- |
| 21:55.42 | goozbach | :D |
| 21:55.48 | goozbach | sjansen: whatprovides sealert |
| 21:56.28 | goozbach | I'm seeing if yum or sjansen is faster |
| 21:56.33 | goozbach | I'm betting on sjansen |
| 21:56.44 | eightyeight | i can tell you without yum |
| 21:56.50 | eightyeight | setroubleshoot |
| 21:56.52 | goozbach | yum wins: |
| 21:56.53 | sjansen | IIRC, setroubleshoot but maybe setroubleshoot-gui |
| 21:56.54 | goozbach | setroubleshoot-server-2.2.94-1.el6.x86_64 |
| 21:57.16 | eightyeight | i beat yum |
| 21:57.24 | sjansen | But you were just as wrong as me. |
| 21:57.32 | sjansen | ~eightyeight-- |
| 21:57.41 | goozbach | piece of crap |
| 21:57.52 | goozbach | setroubleshoot-server requires all the gui bits too |
| 21:57.54 | goozbach | that's a fail |
| 21:58.04 | goozbach | I don't want a single Xlib on this system |
| 21:58.10 | goozbach | I want it as lean as possible |
| 21:58.20 | eightyeight | hangs his head in shame |
| 21:58.47 | sjansen | Dude, you might as well just give it. You're going to need basic Xlibs for SSH X11 forwarding anyway. |
| 21:59.02 | goozbach | sjansen: who says I want X11 forwarding |
| 21:59.04 | goozbach | ? |
| 21:59.10 | goozbach | :) |
| 21:59.25 | goozbach | that and it's a virtual machine I'm trying to keep the image size down |
| 21:59.28 | goozbach | X is so larg |
| 21:59.32 | goozbach | large that is |
| 21:59.47 | sjansen | The way Linux is going, you might as well accept that the future is going to involve the occasional GUI. |
| 21:59.54 | eightyeight | speaking of the size of X, anyone know how wayland compares in terms of bloat? |
| 22:00.14 | sjansen | Especially since nobody's bother to use RPM recommends instead of requires. |
| 22:00.28 | eightyeight | aptitude -R ftw |
| 22:00.31 | goozbach | ~rpmpackagers-- |
| 22:01.06 | sjansen | aptitude is a pretty sweat program, even if it is design for DPKGs instead of RPMs |
| 22:01.14 | sjansen | heh, sweet |
| 22:01.18 | eightyeight | ~karma rpmpackagers |
| 22:01.18 | ibot | rpmpackagers has karma of -1 |
| 22:01.26 | eightyeight | ~karma eightyeight |
| 22:01.26 | ibot | eightyeight has karma of -1 |
| 22:01.30 | eightyeight | :( |
| 22:01.38 | sjansen | ~karma sjansen |
| 22:01.38 | ibot | sjansen has karma of 13 |
| 22:01.44 | sjansen | I'm king of the world! |
| 22:01.54 | eightyeight | ~karma TimRiker |
| 22:01.54 | ibot | timriker has karma of 21 |
| 22:02.01 | eightyeight | not anymore |
| 22:02.12 | sjansen | No, TimRiker is master of the universe. |
| 22:02.16 | eightyeight | heh |
| 22:02.44 | goozbach | ~karma goozbach |
| 22:02.44 | ibot | goozbach has karma of 7 |
| 22:02.48 | goozbach | not bad |
| 22:02.49 | sjansen | Think of me as a local tyrant, given a pretty free hand but always under his watchful eye. |
| 22:02.50 | eightyeight | ~eightyeight++ |
| 22:02.59 | eightyeight | ~karma eightyeight |
| 22:02.59 | ibot | eightyeight has karma of -1 |
| 22:03.03 | sjansen | See now that's just plain cheating. |
| 22:03.04 | goozbach | hah |
| 22:03.06 | eightyeight | dumb bot |
| 22:03.16 | goozbach | and you can't do karma out of a channel |
| 22:03.20 | eightyeight | heh. i got an im from ibot |
| 22:03.24 | goozbach | ~ibot++ |
| 22:03.26 | eightyeight | 15:02 <ibot> please don't karma yourself |
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| 22:03.36 | sjansen | ~botsnack |
| 22:03.36 | ibot | thanks, sjansen |
| 22:03.44 | goozbach | ~karma ibot |
| 22:03.44 | ibot | ibot has karma of 27 |
| 22:04.07 | goozbach | looks like there's a new sheriff in the universe |
| 22:04.37 | eightyeight | karma is like a score in golf. the lower, the better |
| 22:04.44 | sjansen | Nah, ibot is just TimRiker's more popular puppet. A representative that keeps the masses fat and happy. |
| 22:04.56 | eightyeight | ++ just means bogie |
| 22:05.29 | eightyeight | so sjansen is 13 over par |
| 22:05.34 | sjansen | Now there's an interesting question. |
| 22:05.37 | sjansen | ~sjansen-- |
| 22:05.47 | eightyeight | ~karma sjansen |
| 22:05.47 | ibot | sjansen has karma of 13 |
| 22:05.51 | eightyeight | nope |
| 22:10.05 | sjansen | You know what this calls for? |
| 22:10.08 | sjansen | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmcA9LIIXWw |
| 22:10.24 | eightyeight | 15:02 <ibot> please don't karma yourself |
| 22:10.28 | eightyeight | meh. sorry |
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| 22:11.24 | eightyeight | and the first video suggestion on the right, is m.c. hammer's "can't touch this" |
| 22:11.27 | eightyeight | awesome |
| 22:12.47 | goozbach | vermuchso |
| 22:13.27 | eightyeight | music videos just don't have that sort of rhythm and dance anymore, you know? |
| 22:13.46 | goozbach | WHAT!? |
| 22:14.00 | sjansen | envies Boy George's fashion sense |
| 22:14.06 | goozbach | shots shots shots shots shots shots shots shots shots shots shots shots |
| 22:15.56 | *** topic/#utah by sjansen -> logs @ http://ibot.rikers.org/%23utah/ | minecraft server up at plug.org | Ice Ice Baby |
| 22:23.55 | eightyeight | dance moves in the late '80s and '90s were awesome |
| 22:25.35 | eightyeight | i always wanted hair like vanilla ice |
| 22:27.17 | goozbach | go ninja go ninja go! |
| 22:46.29 | sjansen | Man, it's been _ages_ since I've listened to any sertanejo. Gotta do it more often. |
| 22:46.37 | sjansen | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtVM5I05drw&feature=related |
| 23:16.55 | sjansen | Interesting: http://lwn.net/Articles/414482/ |
| 23:17.07 | sjansen | A core Fedora dev thinks switching to Wayland is a real possibility. |
| 23:18.42 | goozbach | as long as they don't screw up my remote xeyes trick |
| 23:25.24 | sjansen | goozbach: You haven't heard? As part of the move to wayland, xeyes will be rewritten to electrocute anyone who tries running it. |
| 23:26.06 | sjansen | Based on market research, the Wayland developers determined this would be the fastest method to eliminate all the whining gray beards. |
| 23:32.31 | goozbach | note to self... don't forget to properly ground my keyboard, and wear rubber gloves |
| 23:38.29 | eightyeight | does deltarpm only contain deltas of config files, or binaries too? |
| 23:39.41 | shalkie | eightyeight: From what I saw it is the entire RPM. |
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| 23:42.49 | eightyeight | is this documented somewhere? |
| 23:57.08 | goozbach | I'm gonna create the goozbach corrilary to Godwin's law |
| 23:57.56 | goozbach | if someone intentionally invokes Godwin's law, someone else will *always* reply saying something to the effect of "Godwin's Law doesn't work that way" |
