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| 03:53.27 | levi-droid | Hey guys. |
| 03:56.10 | elg | these aren't the guys you're looking for |
| 04:03.41 | Gate | move along. |
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| 04:13.52 | sontek | what are some fun cool tips/tricks/tools you guys think are interesting? Doing a talk on just fun cool stuff to do in Linux |
| 04:14.25 | Gate | find . | xargs grep |
| 04:14.32 | Gate | <3 |
| 04:15.34 | Gate | sontek: just general, or do you have more of a focus? Target audience? |
| 04:20.45 | sontek | Gate: Its just general linux discussion, its going to be like more of a roundtable... "here are some cool shit!" and then other people join in and show more or discuss my stuff |
| 04:22.32 | Gate | well, when attempting to lure the un-technical I just show off compiz eye-candy until they are drooling |
| 04:23.26 | sontek | Its for all technical people |
| 04:25.30 | sontek | I'm thinking i'll cover fun command line tricks like using ctrl+r, !!, etc |
| 04:25.44 | Gate | Your over my head there |
| 04:25.53 | Gate | never seen either of them |
| 04:26.04 | Gate | so, presuming they are useful, than yes! |
| 04:26.13 | sontek | ctrl+r allows you to search your history to re-run commands |
| 04:26.21 | Gate | decides that OSX has made him weak |
| 04:26.22 | sontek | it'll autocomplete for you |
| 04:26.39 | sontek | !! runs your last command again |
| 04:26.59 | sontek | so if you run a command and forget to sudo you can do sudo !! |
| 04:27.08 | Gate | interesting |
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| 05:09.31 | levi-droid | OSX does ctrl-r at the prompt too. |
| 05:10.04 | levi-droid | I use it all the time. |
| 05:10.38 | Gate | yep |
| 05:10.41 | Gate | I see that |
| 05:31.40 | levi-droid | Learn it, live it, love it. Ctl-r is pure awesomeness. |
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| 13:23.17 | goozbach | sontek: byobu |
| 13:23.40 | goozbach | ctrl-r is a bashism |
| 13:23.51 | goozbach | Gate: if you're not using bash under osX you're doing it wrong |
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| 13:37.54 | Migs | http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/28/us/28religion.html?_r=1 |
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| 15:58.19 | Gate | goozbach: I am using bash, the problem is this f****** terminal emulator |
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| 16:10.38 | goozbach | Gate: which one you using? |
| 16:10.40 | goozbach | try iTerm |
| 16:10.56 | goozbach | I use Terminall.app only for connecting to my IRC screen session |
| 16:11.07 | goozbach | (because it's url handling is superior) |
| 16:11.19 | goozbach | I also modified the settings heavily |
| 16:12.20 | Gate | I use the stock terminal, I recall trying iTerm or some such and it had significantly worse problems for me |
| 16:12.45 | JoshH | i used to use urxvt with X11 running, but now just use regular terminal |
| 16:13.17 | JoshH | i tried iterm in the past and didn't care much for it, but can't rememeber why |
| 16:13.25 | goozbach | Gate: what kind of problems? |
| 16:13.27 | JoshH | Gate: you do have macports right? |
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| 16:13.41 | Gate | I am trying desperately to recall specifics |
| 16:13.55 | Gate | I know I threw it out within a day |
| 16:14.25 | goozbach | the number one trick I discovered was to disable the F-keys special functions |
| 16:14.28 | Gate | I *think* there were severe limitations to how it would let me configure it |
| 16:14.44 | goozbach | Gate: I hear ya |
| 16:15.15 | Gate | It may have been something as trite as it not allowing a white on black color scheme or doing so badly |
| 16:15.15 | levi | What are you talking about? |
| 16:15.26 | Gate | that would be enough for me to throw it out |
| 16:15.31 | Gate | levi: OSX terminal emulators |
| 16:15.37 | levi | Ah. |
| 16:15.47 | levi | I'm afraid I just learned to live with Terminal.app |
| 16:16.07 | Gate | well, it DOES have white on black, so that wasn't it |
| 16:16.21 | Gate | Its even still in my browser history, so I clearly have tried it |
| 16:17.06 | goozbach | I'm running white on black |
| 16:17.10 | goozbach | with transparency |
| 16:17.22 | Gate | same here, and it started with those settings now |
| 16:17.29 | Gate | (my old settings file, maybe?) |
| 16:17.38 | Gate | I really wish I remembered why I gave up on it |
| 16:18.32 | goozbach | home-end not working is a pita for me |
| 16:18.48 | goozbach | I got it passing into the app, but it's not doing anything on normal CLI |
| 16:18.50 | goozbach | IIRC |
| 16:19.03 | Gate | WELL! that explains it |
| 16:19.19 | Gate | I can't pass alt keystrokes to the terminal, which are critical for using finch |
| 16:19.27 | Gate | looks for a config |
| 16:19.42 | goozbach | alt-p alt-k |
| 16:19.44 | goozbach | ahh |
| 16:20.04 | Gate | alt-p alt-n alt-a etc. are neccecary for finch |
| 16:20.08 | JoshH | ya, having to use escape instead of alt in irssi is probably my biggest annoyance |
| 16:20.22 | Gate | those are passed as unicode characters like to a text editor |
| 16:20.27 | JoshH | if there's a way to fix it i haven't been annoyed enough to hunt it down |
| 16:20.46 | Gate | I don't know how I got the stock terminal to work with it, but it does |
| 16:20.47 | JoshH | home and end keys need fixing too |
| 16:21.01 | Gate | page-up page-down are my biggest annoyance |
| 16:21.16 | JoshH | ya, those too |
| 16:21.27 | JoshH | just gotta remember shift or fn + shift |
| 16:23.09 | levi | Hmm, Hulu+ coming to Roku. |
| 16:23.23 | goozbach | ËI think there's a system-wide setting which changes "option" to alt |
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| 18:11.49 | findlay | hello |
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| 18:21.08 | levi | findlay: Heya. |
| 18:21.16 | levi | findlay: Made any progress on your PC/104 serial ports? |
| 18:31.31 | goozbach | ~wtf hth |
| 18:32.40 | findlay | levi: not yet |
| 18:33.03 | findlay | I'm learning up on how to do basic things with serials |
| 18:34.09 | levi | It took me ages to get the serial concentrator hardware I had to enable in Linux to work. That was my first taste of Linux kernel driver hacking. :) |
| 18:36.53 | findlay | looks like I'm going to need to start moving jumpers around |
| 18:48.11 | Gate | levi: one of my first projects in Linux was trying to get Debian working with new and bizarre networking hardware |
| 18:48.37 | Gate | KERNEL PANIC became a common phrase for me :) |
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| 18:50.29 | findlay | well |
| 18:50.31 | findlay | class time |
| 18:50.49 | findlay | intro to abstract algebra |
| 18:50.59 | findlay | althouth more intro than algebra |
| 18:51.11 | findlay | at least that means I get an A |
| 18:51.15 | findlay | oh well |
| 18:59.41 | Gate | What I remember of Abstract Algebra it was fun |
| 19:13.57 | fugue88 | If he's talking the same "Abstract Algebra" I took in college, he may be underestimating how much it will pick up. |
| 19:14.21 | fugue88 | Galois hit me over the head like a ton of bricks. |
| 19:15.55 | Nafai | I don't get math much more advanced than differential equations :) |
| 19:17.23 | fugue88 | The way math branches out, you can't really put a total ordering over "advanced" on it. |
| 19:17.48 | Nafai | heh |
| 19:18.47 | fugue88 | For example, in advanced geometry, I came up with the shortest proof to a problem my professor had ever seen, even in the literature. But for me it was obvious. On the other hand, the last few steps in Abstract, while I mostly understood them, were completely beyond my power to innovate. |
| 19:18.52 | fugue88 | If that makes any sense. |
| 19:19.13 | fugue88 | And I actually thought that the stuff in Abstract was easy. |
| 19:20.02 | fugue88 | heh. In fact, my prof. automatically gave me no credit on the geom. problem b/c of its shortness. I challenged, and she couldn't find anything wrong with it, no circular reasoning, etc. So I got the points. :) |
| 19:20.23 | Gate | fugue88: I understand. Spedning so much mental energy just grasping the concept limits one's ability to see the intricacies |
| 19:21.10 | Gate | fugue88: Reminds me of the time I proved the book the professor was writing wrong |
| 19:21.19 | fugue88 | nice |
| 19:22.00 | fugue88 | Gate: I was talking more like this: I thought the logic in Abstract easy, and the non-Euclidian stuff in Geom. difficult to grasp. But, I could never "come up with" anything in Abstract on my own, but I could in geom. |
| 19:22.16 | Gate | Ah, gotcha |
| 19:22.36 | Gate | Non-Euclidean geometry rocked. |
| 19:22.39 | fugue88 | So in this discipline, we have a high branching factor, lots of complexity, no total ordering, and non-linearity. :D |
| 19:22.57 | Gate | Although I still can't quite swallow hyperbolic space |
| 19:23.23 | fugue88 | Yeah, funky stuff. |
| 19:25.07 | Gate | I found spherical space to have a very comfortable definition though |
| 19:25.14 | fugue88 | ditto |
| 19:25.24 | Nafai | Speaking of such, here's "Math for Computer Scientists", a course at MIT, with a link to a PDF text: http://courses.csail.mit.edu/6.042/fall10/ |
| 19:34.03 | sjansen | would prefer a copy of _Get Rich Quick While Playing Tetris For Computer Scientists" |
| 19:37.06 | goozbach | would prefer a copy of _Get Rich Quick While Playing MineCraft for Total Geeks_ |
| 19:37.37 | fugue88 | step 1: write minecraft |
| 19:37.44 | fugue88 | step 2: profit!!! |
| 19:38.09 | goozbach | (fugue88, you forgot ???) |
| 19:38.09 | Gate | Enterprise D in Minecraft, ALU in Minecraft, Get Rich in Minecraft.... I am beginning to think I should try this game. |
| 19:38.17 | goozbach | Gate: run away! |
| 19:38.24 | goozbach | I haven't been able to focus for weeks now |
| 19:38.31 | goozbach | I see meter cubed blocks |
| 19:38.42 | fugue88 | goozbach: The guy's already making money, so I decided that step was unnecessary. |
| 19:41.34 | fugue88 | Valve and Bungie offered a *job* to minecraft's creator? Oh brother. |
| 19:43.59 | goozbach | fugue88: link? |
| 19:44.13 | goozbach | he visited both, but I never saw anything about a job |
| 19:45.38 | fugue88 | goozbach: http://www.develop-online.net/news/35973/Minecraft-creator-banks-350k-a-day |
| 19:50.18 | sjansen | Wow. |
| 19:51.29 | fugue88 | I know! The nerve, huh!? ;) |
| 19:58.24 | levi | I'd be pretty pleased to make 350k a day for a single day, maybe two. |
| 19:59.25 | JoshH | wow |
| 19:59.34 | JoshH | my next project shall be a game, that settles it |
| 20:01.23 | goozbach | JoshH: for every notch, there are $MAXINT poor developers |
| 20:01.35 | JoshH | too true |
| 20:01.36 | goozbach | good luck |
| 20:01.42 | levi | Doesn't have to be a game, it just has to be cheap and viral. |
| 20:02.17 | goozbach | the sweet spot is about $15 US |
| 20:02.27 | levi | I'm sure there are fart app people who made that much for a while. |
| 20:02.40 | JoshH | now there's an idea |
| 20:02.58 | JoshH | once i make it big, this shall be what my office is like |
| 20:03.00 | JoshH | http://www.officesnapshots.com/2010/09/29/inventionland-offices/ |
| 20:03.27 | levi | Speaking of which, I want Steve Jobs' new home he's building. |
| 20:10.16 | Nafai | holy fetch: http://www.develop-online.net/news/35973/Minecraft-creator-banks-350k-a-day |
| 20:11.10 | JoshH | flippin shiz |
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