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| 04:13.17 | Sargun | haha, crazy utahns http://www.abc4.com/content/news/top%20stories/story/Drunken-mortgage-worker-shoots-computer-server/eWbz45mnD0u5NK1Bgc_0Nw.cspx |
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| 04:15.37 | herlo | ~tinyurl Sargun |
| 04:15.37 | ibot | ACTION runs '/exec tinyurl.sh http://maps.google.com//maps/ms?ie=UTF8&addr=Sargun' and laughs maniacally! |
| 04:15.56 | Sargun | ... |
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| 14:20.34 | bonez2046 | any MAC guru here now? Here's my dilemma.. My wife has two laptops.. one runs xp pro, the other a MACbook. the xp pro machine connects, wirelessly, just fine but the MAC won't connect wirelessly. It does connect using ethernet cable just fine though.. and is here as 'bonez2047' right now.. |
| 14:20.55 | bonez2046 | I'd like to figure out why my xp pro wireless machine connects and the MAC does not. |
| 14:22.05 | bonez2047 | suggestions? |
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| 14:29.53 | Migs | Is there a way to "reserve" a percentage of the CPU (e.g. 5%) so in case the CPU spikes, I can still get into the server? |
| 14:30.16 | Migs | I know I've looked into this before, but I don't remember what I found...I don't think I found anything conclusive |
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| 14:33.24 | bonez2046 | no MAC afficianados today? |
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| 14:43.03 | bonez2046 | elg: ever NOT been able to connect your MAC while a wireless xp pro or other windows/linux machine WOULD connect? |
| 14:43.15 | bonez2046 | I cant get my wife's MAC laptop to connect.. |
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| 14:51.34 | bonez2046 | ?? |
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| 15:09.57 | dharmatech | bonez: what happens when you try to connect? |
| 15:12.14 | bonez2046 | it doesn't connect |
| 15:14.39 | eightyeight | bonez2046: is the airport turned on? |
| 15:14.42 | dharmatech | is it open or wep? |
| 15:15.14 | eightyeight | (or whatever they call their wireless app) |
| 15:15.17 | dharmatech | what happens when you select the ap from airport menu? |
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| 15:16.09 | bonez2046 | airport is on but wont' connect |
| 15:16.24 | bonez2046 | I am trying deleting com.apple.airport.airportutility.plist and rebooting |
| 15:16.33 | dharmatech | you don't need to reboot |
| 15:16.51 | dharmatech | what do you see in system preferences -> network? |
| 15:17.00 | dharmatech | does it say airport, connected? |
| 15:17.16 | eightyeight | heh. reboot. |
| 15:17.19 | eightyeight | bonez2046: it's not windows |
| 15:18.16 | bonez2046 | eightyeight: windows? this is on a mac |
| 15:18.57 | eightyeight | bonez2046: right. you don't reboot macs when you make a change. only windows. |
| 15:19.26 | eightyeight | bonez2046: the only time you need to reboot your mac, is when you get a kernel upgrade |
| 15:20.05 | bonez2046 | oh.. I cant' get the wireless to work.. so I am trying that |
| 15:20.25 | eightyeight | shakes his head |
| 15:20.45 | eightyeight | look what microsoft taught us: something doesn't work, so reboot, and see what happens next! |
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| 15:39.23 | sjansen | Is this old news? http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/home/50159264-76/campbell-computer-police-server.html.csp |
| 15:40.19 | Migs | OLD |
| 15:40.33 | Migs | from yesterday: <Sargun> haha, crazy utahns http://www.abc4.com/content/news/top%20stories/story/Drunken-mortgage-worker-shoots-computer-server/eWbz45mnD0u5NK1Bgc_0Nw.cspx |
| 15:40.36 | *** topic/#utah by sjansen -> logs @ http://ibot.rikers.org/%23utah/ | Friends don't let friends shoot production servers. |
| 15:46.54 | goozbach | that was in SLC? |
| 15:47.02 | tarrant | Anyone know how to interact with Android over USB? Or if there is a way? |
| 15:47.28 | tarrant | For instance accessing contacts and calendars. |
| 15:47.56 | goozbach | someone needs to invite him to a clean-n-shoot |
| 15:48.19 | goozbach | tarrant: with android, no but with the google API sure |
| 15:58.41 | unum | ya, you can access all of you contacts and calendars on you gmail account |
| 15:58.59 | unum | and then it will update on your android |
| 15:59.11 | unum | I don't think there's a desktop app you can do it with |
| 15:59.25 | eightyeight | "there's an app for that" |
| 16:02.39 | fungus | unum, there are some apps that sync with Google contacts/calendar too. |
| 16:03.17 | fungus | eg. Apple AddressBook/iCal |
| 16:03.27 | eightyeight | i thought a major selling point of the android platform was adding your google account, and syncing everything from the google cloud to your device |
| 16:03.36 | eightyeight | i don't have an android phone, so i could be wrong |
| 16:03.43 | fungus | eightyeight, you are totally right. |
| 16:03.59 | fungus | An android w/o a Google account is possible but really lame, and missing much of the functionality. |
| 16:04.29 | eightyeight | i guess interacting with outlooking or some other pim, ymmv |
| 16:04.34 | eightyeight | s/ing// |
| 16:04.44 | eightyeight | meh |
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| 16:23.37 | Jayce^ | and android with a google apps account bites (was a big strike for me last time I was looking) |
| 16:26.07 | Nafai | Jayce^: what problems do you have? |
| 16:26.16 | Nafai | The only problem was the google voie thingy |
| 16:26.18 | Nafai | voice |
| 16:26.21 | sshaw | Nafai: perhaps a good question for another day ;) |
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| 16:27.17 | Jayce^ | Nafai: quite a few of the google tools don't work with your apps.. voice is one.. docs get mismatched, contacts too |
| 16:28.18 | Nafai | I haven't had problems with contacts. the docs thing is annoying, yes :( |
| 16:30.03 | Jayce^ | Nafai: I've had to nuke my contacts a couple times when trying to sync the two, and woudl get terribly hosed |
| 16:30.23 | Nafai | :( |
| 16:31.00 | Nafai | Hate insomnia, I was planning on going to the CTO breakfast this morning |
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| 16:41.23 | unum | any one know of a email list related to statistical packages? |
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| 18:28.16 | Migs | omg, kswapd0 has been annihilating my CPU |
| 18:34.08 | eightyeight | Nafai: you still with canonical? |
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| 19:25.21 | Nafai | nope :( |
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| 20:07.45 | sjansen | ~rlart |
| 20:07.46 | ibot | whips out a hot clue gun and makes sure that jnbek is stuck to the floor |
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| 20:37.02 | Shalkie | s/hot clue/hot glue/ <-- There you go ibot... |
| 20:39.14 | goozbach | Shalkie: it's hot clue |
| 20:39.21 | jsmith | Shalkie: You've never been hit upside the head with a clue-by-four, have you? |
| 20:39.35 | goozbach | it uses hot glue, to burn some clue into whomever it sticks to |
| 20:39.39 | Shalkie | jsmith: The answer is no. |
| 20:39.42 | goozbach | ~smack Shalkie |
| 20:39.43 | ibot | ACTION smacks Shalkie upside the head. |
| 20:39.54 | goozbach | ~clue Shalkie |
| 20:39.55 | ibot | ACTION fans out Vegas-style a stack of clues for Shalkie "Pick one, any one! ...and don't show it to me." |
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| 20:44.52 | sinuhe | Shalkie: See what happens when you make the mistake of making a comment in #utah? |
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| 20:45.50 | Shalkie | sinuhe: heh. |
| 20:47.17 | goozbach | ~gunwhale sinuhe |
| 20:48.17 | sjansen | ~crush sinuhe |
| 20:48.17 | ibot | ACTION crushes sinuhe with a full height scsi disk |
| 20:48.35 | sjansen | ~whalegun victim |
| 20:48.50 | sjansen | goozbach: Looks like neither version works. |
| 20:49.34 | goozbach | ~gunwhale sinuhe |
| 20:49.35 | ibot | ACTION places sinuhe on the edge of a whale named bert |
| 20:49.46 | goozbach | gunwale isn't what I thought it was |
| 20:49.56 | goozbach | it's the top edge of the side of a boat |
| 20:50.16 | goozbach | I thought it was something akin to keelhaul, but elsewhere |
| 20:50.24 | goozbach | so I made the factoid be factual |
| 20:50.39 | goozbach | and bert ~= boat in my book |
| 20:55.32 | sjansen | ~keelhaul goozbach |
| 20:55.33 | ibot | ACTION and goozbach keelhaul all the barons and their followers for being such dastardly pirates |
| 20:55.46 | sjansen | Drat! Foiled again! |
| 20:55.48 | goozbach | buhahah! |
| 20:56.19 | sinuhe | reminds himself to follow his own advice. |
| 21:05.09 | eightyeight | http://spot.livejournal.com/315383.html |
| 21:07.48 | goozbach | good on em |
| 21:16.32 | jsmith | Amen! |
| 21:16.37 | jsmith | Glad to have that taken care of |
| 21:19.53 | goozbach | is itching to play deus ex |
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| 21:24.02 | Migs | classic |
| 21:25.39 | goozbach | Migs: I've been watching this speedrun all day(a bit at a time) |
| 21:25.41 | goozbach | http://www.gametrailers.com/user-movie/deus-ex-speed-run-in-43-20/158661 |
| 21:25.59 | tarrant | Is there a good way to get a copy of the installed perl modules? |
| 21:26.19 | goozbach | tarrant: copies of all the perl modules? |
| 21:26.27 | goozbach | for i in @INC?.... |
| 21:26.29 | goozbach | :) |
| 21:26.50 | goozbach | find / -iname \*.pm |
| 21:27.10 | jsmith | goozbach: You're missing the " | xargs rm" piece on the end |
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| 21:40.48 | sjansen | mentions find -delete to jsmith |
| 21:41.38 | tarrant | Sorry I misstated my intentions. I would like a list of all installed modules. That way if the server where to die in a fire I can recreate it. |
| 21:42.17 | goozbach | tarrant: have you installed any via CPAN? |
| 21:42.27 | goozbach | or only through your package manager? |
| 21:42.29 | tarrant | All have been installed using CPAN |
| 21:42.40 | Tene | goozbach: I watched a 7-minute morrowind speedrun earlier today. |
| 21:42.51 | tarrant | Well I guess a few are being installed though the package manager but I have a list of all installed packages already. |
| 21:43.14 | goozbach | find / -iname *.pm is a good idea I suppose then |
| 21:44.34 | Tene | just chattr +a .bash_history and back it up regularly, and then replay it whenever you install a new system. Obviously. |
| 21:44.37 | Tene | ;) |
| 21:49.20 | goozbach | I don't have a .bash_history |
| 21:49.25 | goozbach | I have a .bash_history.d/ |
| 21:52.28 | Nafai | wtf? |
| 21:52.49 | JoshH | goozbach outnerds all of us |
| 21:53.21 | goozbach | one history file per host per year |
| 21:53.27 | Nafai | oh, nice |
| 21:53.28 | goozbach | and shopt histappend |
| 21:53.40 | Nafai | do you have some automatic rotation and stuff? |
| 21:53.48 | goozbach | and ocasionally I'll rsync all my history files back to a single location |
| 21:53.53 | goozbach | no auto rotation needed |
| 21:54.11 | goozbach | HISTFILE=~/.bash_history.d/$hostname-$year |
| 21:54.25 | Nafai | wow, nice |
| 21:54.29 | Nafai | hacks |
| 21:54.29 | tarrant | Don't they get a bit big? |
| 21:55.08 | goozbach | tarrant: nah |
| 21:55.25 | goozbach | HISTCONTROL and HISTIGNORE help a lot with that |
| 21:55.39 | goozbach | if they do get big I'll just move to per month |
| 21:55.48 | goozbach | I've overriden the history command too |
| 21:56.08 | goozbach | it's now a grep 'foo' from .bash_history.d/* |
| 21:56.10 | Nafai | looks at goozbach's bashrc |
| 21:56.29 | goozbach | I'll sanitize it and push it to my github page |
| 21:57.15 | Nafai | hrm, nothing about history there |
| 21:58.09 | goozbach | it's all in my profile.d/ directory |
| 21:58.14 | goozbach | er .profile.d |
| 21:58.17 | goozbach | :) |
| 21:58.23 | goozbach | granularity my friend |
| 21:58.41 | goozbach | and these changes I just made this morning |
| 21:58.51 | goozbach | I haven't pushed them up to the public repo yet |
| 21:58.58 | Nafai | ah |
| 21:59.04 | JoshH | curses gnumeric |
| 22:03.16 | Nafai | goozbach: hah, talking about granularity, you should see my .emacs.d/ :) |
| 22:03.43 | Nafai | http://github.com/Nafai77/config/tree/master/HOME/_emacs.d/ |
| 22:03.46 | goozbach | buhaha |
| 22:04.14 | Nafai | I laughed with I saw your .emacs |
| 22:04.42 | goozbach | why? |
| 22:04.45 | goozbach | cause it's stock? |
| 22:04.58 | goozbach | cause I haven't ever opened .emacs in my life!? |
| 22:05.04 | goozbach | did you see my .vim directory? |
| 22:05.20 | Nafai | I don't even have a .vim :) |
| 22:05.22 | Nafai | looks |
| 22:10.19 | Tene | http://wiki.eth-0.nl/index.php/LackRack is pretty great |
| 22:47.54 | Shalkie | Tene: Awesome. Been looking at different rack solutions. Seems IKEA is the center of a couple of them. |
| 22:57.17 | fozzmoo | ARGH. |
| 22:57.18 | fozzmoo | hates motherboards. |
| 22:57.28 | fozzmoo | Today is the one day I wish I lived in Orem. |
| 23:00.49 | goozbach | whyso? |
| 23:01.36 | fozzmoo | Because I don't have any hardware shops nearby. |
| 23:01.50 | fozzmoo | I'm building this firewall for a guy and I think the motherboard is DOA. |
| 23:01.53 | JoshH | utah needs a frys so desperately |
| 23:02.03 | fozzmoo | I've got a dimly-glowing HDD LED when I plug it in. |
| 23:02.06 | fozzmoo | Doesn't sound good. |
| 23:02.14 | JoshH | where are you now? |
| 23:02.18 | fozzmoo | Herriman. |
| 23:02.31 | JoshH | oof |
| 23:03.03 | JoshH | salt lake county needs a freeway and train line going out there almost as bad as it needs a frys |
| 23:03.05 | fozzmoo | I've done all the usual - take the battery out for a while, reseat the RAM/CPU, disconnect everything else, etc. |
| 23:03.06 | Tene | There's a frys just down the street from me. |
| 23:03.19 | fozzmoo | Train?! Pffft. |
| 23:03.20 | goozbach | fozzmoo: put it in the freezer |
| 23:03.22 | goozbach | :) |
| 23:03.25 | fozzmoo | heh. |
| 23:03.35 | goozbach | or hold a heat gun to it for a minute |
| 23:03.40 | fozzmoo | Don't get me started about the absurdity of rail transit in utah. |
| 23:04.01 | Tene | Trains? Public transportation is for POOR PEOPLE! We don't need trains! |
| 23:04.19 | goozbach | fozzmoo: what's absurd about rail transit |
| 23:04.30 | fozzmoo | Ugh. I told you not to do this. |
| 23:04.31 | Tene | "rail transit in utah" |
| 23:04.40 | goozbach | execpt it doesn't cover anywhere worth living in ATL |
| 23:04.44 | goozbach | that's it's only problem |
| 23:04.51 | fozzmoo | Mass transit should be implemented in phases based on population density. |
| 23:05.00 | JoshH | utah's rail will be better once it goes to more places, starting with the airport |
| 23:05.10 | fozzmoo | Utah's population density is such that we should still be using buses for all our mass transit needs. |
| 23:05.21 | JoshH | a city with no airport train is terrible |
| 23:05.38 | goozbach | one of the pluses of Marta |
| 23:05.40 | fozzmoo | But since the Olympics came in 2002, the powers-that-be decided we needed to get with the times and reinstall a streetcar system that was dismantled about 80 years before. |
| 23:06.26 | JoshH | well, a freeway going out by herriman would definitely be a bigger priority |
| 23:06.33 | ksaisjja | But look how many more car accidents we can watch on the news now! |
| 23:06.34 | JoshH | i just had to throw trains in there to keep my liberal cred |
| 23:06.37 | fozzmoo | So, yeah, if anyone at UTA didn't have their heads up their asses, they'd be figuring out how to use buses to more efficiently move people. |
| 23:06.59 | fozzmoo | But, no, they're building more rail lines and eliminating bus lines. |
| 23:07.11 | fozzmoo | We are getting Mountain View Corridor. |
| 23:07.16 | fozzmoo | It might be a freeway in 30 years. |
| 23:07.24 | fozzmoo | For now, it's just going to be an expressway like Bangerter Hwy. |
| 23:07.41 | JoshH | that sucks |
| 23:08.00 | fozzmoo | With only 2 stoplights between I-15 and Herriman on Bangerter, it's almost like a freeway. :) |
| 23:08.08 | JoshH | how many lanes |
| 23:08.14 | fozzmoo | 6 |
| 23:08.18 | JoshH | for mountain view? |
| 23:08.20 | fozzmoo | 3 each way. |
| 23:08.24 | JoshH | weak |
| 23:08.34 | fozzmoo | Oh- Mtn View Corridor will have 2 each way to start. |
| 23:08.56 | JoshH | i want 8 lanes each way, with an hov lane during rush hour, and a separate lane for semis |
| 23:09.01 | JoshH | so combination of phoenix and LA style |
| 23:09.10 | fozzmoo | it's a new design. They're building two roads that will be like frontage roads for the freeway when it's all done. |
| 23:09.27 | fozzmoo | So, 2 lanes going each direction, divided by 50-60 yards. |
| 23:09.39 | fozzmoo | then, when they have money (and need), they'll fill in the middle with a real freeway. |
| 23:09.53 | fozzmoo | And the "frontage lanes" will be the on/off ramps. |
| 23:10.35 | fozzmoo | But, of course, this is all subject to change. 3-4 years ago they said it was all going to be below grade, but that's been scrapped. |
| 23:11.28 | fozzmoo | They'll probably decide to make some stupid "transit corridor" out of it and put an incredibly expensive elevated monorail over it to woo federal grant money to Utah. |
| 23:11.31 | JoshH | i had to go to the very far southwest corner of herriman for a birthday party a few months ago, and it was a horrific drive |
| 23:11.36 | fozzmoo | heh heh. |
| 23:11.37 | JoshH | i can't even imagine that being my commute |
| 23:12.13 | fozzmoo | JoshH: I enjoy driving to XMission from my house. It's only 30 minutes or so. but then, I usually plan those drives in the wee hours of the night/morning |
| 23:12.30 | Nafai | The train runs right by my house |
| 23:12.33 | JoshH | for me it's 15 even in the rush hour |
| 23:12.38 | JoshH | from murray |
| 23:12.41 | fozzmoo | Not bad. |
| 23:12.43 | Nafai | oh I can't wait until it is going like 50 times a day |
| 23:12.47 | JoshH | usually closer to 30 on the way home, since afternoons are always worse |
| 23:12.48 | fozzmoo | My wife works in Murray - 45th and I15 |
| 23:13.04 | JoshH | if i get on sb 15 on 9th south instead of 5th, it's faster |
| 23:13.21 | fozzmoo | 9th So. is SLC' |
| 23:13.26 | fozzmoo | 9th So. is SLC's little secret. :) |
| 23:13.31 | JoshH | indeed |
| 23:13.42 | JoshH | so much quicker than waiting for all the lights and jams on 5th |
| 23:14.31 | fozzmoo | JoshH: Do you have UTOPIA where you live in Murray? |
| 23:14.38 | JoshH | ya, that's why i moved there :) |
| 23:14.43 | fozzmoo | Nice. |
| 23:15.18 | fozzmoo | I wish there was some possibility of it coming to Herriman. Riverton was on the not-pledging list of cities, but I doubt they'll even get it at the point. |
| 23:15.44 | fozzmoo | At this point, I'm anticipating switching to Comcast for my Internet connection. 1.5Mbps is just too dang slow! |
| 23:16.04 | JoshH | the cash they just got should help them out for a couple years at least, but i can't imagine any new cities being willing to join considering all the negative press and public perception about them lately |
| 23:16.46 | fozzmoo | Yeah- the "other UTA" has made UTOPIA public enemy number one. |
| 23:25.03 | unum | sen stephenson is public enemy number one |
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