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| 04:18.51 | maquis_ | ok... anyone know of a good brand of diaper for a little girl with a big belly and a back that seems to form a nice tunnel *out* of the diaper??? |
| 04:19.11 | maquis_ | she's currently in the costco brand |
| 04:19.26 | JoshH | i always get the huggies from costco |
| 04:19.45 | JoshH | ive tried lots of others but those are by far the best overall |
| 04:19.55 | maquis_ | we've already tried fisher price, huggies and pampers, and so far the costco diapers are a little better than the rest for her |
| 04:20.17 | JoshH | how old is she? |
| 04:20.36 | maquis_ | JoshH: 7 months, but her sizing is really weird |
| 04:20.45 | JoshH | she wearing 3/4? |
| 04:21.10 | maquis_ | she's around 50th %ile for weight, but almost below the chart for height... |
| 04:21.26 | maquis_ | she's currently in 3 on the costco diapers |
| 04:21.27 | JoshH | hmmm |
| 04:21.46 | JoshH | well, i can say that leaks were usually fixed by going up a size |
| 04:22.41 | maquis_ | JoshH: were your leaks usually back or legs? |
| 04:22.51 | JoshH | heh, i've had both |
| 04:22.58 | maquis_ | her legs are usually fine (chubby legs) |
| 04:23.03 | JoshH | what a lovely conversation :P |
| 04:23.14 | maquis_ | yeah.. i know |
| 04:23.16 | JoshH | once you're a parent, talking about this stuff seems normal |
| 04:23.37 | maquis_ | unfortunately, this is the first place i thought to ask... |
| 04:23.40 | maquis_ | :) |
| 04:23.41 | JoshH | the single people awake in here are probably thinking wtf is this |
| 04:23.55 | maquis_ | :) |
| 04:24.20 | JoshH | but anyway ya, it just depends on the particular leak. but in general, bigger is definitely better |
| 04:24.38 | JoshH | right now my 10 month old boy wears the same size 5's as my almost 3 year old girl |
| 04:24.39 | maquis_ | hmmm... i'll have to try that |
| 04:24.45 | JoshH | just strap it a little tighter |
| 04:24.46 | maquis_ | wow |
| 04:24.47 | JoshH | but it works great |
| 04:24.51 | maquis_ | yeah... |
| 04:25.09 | maquis_ | hmm... wonder if maybe we're just strapping too tight |
| 04:25.26 | maquis_ | i'm going to have to experiment a bit with this |
| 04:30.59 | elg | my nine month old is in the same size as my 2.5 year old |
| 04:31.13 | elg | don't be afraid to go bigger :) |
| 04:31.43 | elg | (as they get taller they start to thin out too, so it's not like they're going to run out of sizes. and there's always depends I guess. ;-) |
| 04:32.01 | elg | that'd be size 4, btw. (some chlorine-free brand my wife orders from amazon) |
| 04:35.03 | maquis_ | yeah... |
| 04:36.58 | maquis_ | she actually is on meds for a birthmark that are part of the problem for her body shape... when she gets off eventually, she should catch up on height... |
| 04:38.55 | Reilithion | Ah, #utah. |
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| 13:11.33 | ^Migs^ | I was just informed we're going to be hiring a web designer. Not sure if I should be insulted. I didn't think my designs were that bad. On the other hand, it would be nice to have some help. |
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| 15:38.09 | sjansen | ~rlart |
| 15:38.10 | ibot | lowers herlo's priority |
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| 17:03.15 | ahhdem | ^Migs^: stop whining |
| 17:03.23 | ahhdem | also, chan too quiet |
| 17:03.25 | ahhdem | peace bitches |
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| 17:03.52 | scothoser | ?? |
| 17:06.02 | scothoser | Perhaps I'm just not cool, but I've never understood using vulgarity while wishing someone peace. |
| 17:06.39 | JoshH | way to be unhip |
| 17:06.57 | maquis_ | scothoser: agreed |
| 17:07.51 | scothoser | And, as is often the case with offensive language, it is used completely out of context. |
| 17:11.52 | clsimons | I think the juxtaposition of two moods is amusing. |
| 17:12.17 | clsimons | Slightly. |
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| 17:15.34 | scothoser | clsimons: It does spark an interest in the phrase and it's origins. Is it just thoughtless jargon, or was there a deeper meaning to the phrase? |
| 17:17.22 | JoshH | scothoser: the internet has been saying that for well over a decade |
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| 17:19.20 | clsimons | * its |
| 17:20.16 | clsimons | nearlyfreespeech.net has been down for a while now. Dang! |
| 17:20.17 | goozbach | I think it is a shortened version of "Peace out!... Bitches" an ironic send off when you are leaving a bad enviromment |
| 17:20.53 | goozbach | (visions of a guy leaving a prision, and yelling it at the remainining prisioners) |
| 17:21.02 | goozbach | some sort of gloating... |
| 17:21.49 | scothoser | I see. So it's a passive-agressive response. I get it. Burning bridges. |
| 17:25.57 | JoshH | it's not something you can really analyze like that |
| 17:26.01 | JoshH | people just say it |
| 17:27.05 | clsimons | I don't think it necessarily is meant to be insulting, or passive-aggressive in that sense. It could just be meant as superfluous verbiage, as in slang. |
| 17:27.17 | JoshH | right |
| 17:27.38 | JoshH | it's like saying "bros" or "guys" |
| 17:30.27 | scothoser | Hmm.. But it assumes those you talk to are willing to accept an offensive name.. I have no doubt the phrase was given off hand and with little thought to the contents thereof. It's the mindset that allows such labeling to be commonplace. |
| 17:31.08 | scothoser | Wow, this could really open up into a nice research project.. I wonder when the phrase was started, and the reasoning behind it. |
| 17:32.23 | JoshH | these days i don't know if it really qualifes as offensive for most people, depending on your standards |
| 17:32.41 | JoshH | you would hear it on regular network TV or G rated movies |
| 17:34.17 | JoshH | but considering this channel, the guy probably was intending to ruffle a few feathers, and it apparently worked |
| 17:35.32 | JoshH | and coincidentally, #cisco is currently having a somewhat spirited conversation about the acceptability of the F word in the channel |
| 17:35.51 | sjansen | declares scothoser terminally square |
| 17:36.33 | scothoser | sjansen: Woohoo! A life-long dream come true! ^_^ |
| 17:37.07 | scothoser | JoshH: Interesting.. that's another word I constantly hear used incorrectly. |
| 17:37.09 | ^Migs^ | I'm not sure feathers were ruffled. It's just a civil discourse about the deeper meaning of his statement. |
| 17:37.18 | JoshH | that word cannot be used incorrectly |
| 17:37.20 | JoshH | it's too versatile |
| 17:37.36 | JoshH | you can form complete paragraphs with nothing but that word |
| 17:37.41 | ^Migs^ | I don't use "cuss words," but I recognize the value they can have in language |
| 17:37.44 | sjansen | JoshH: I dunno about that. |
| 17:37.52 | JoshH | well, sentences anyway |
| 17:37.54 | sjansen | "Please pass the F***." |
| 17:37.55 | ^Migs^ | They can add instant emphasis to a sentence when used correctly, for one. |
| 17:38.07 | JoshH | sjansen: that works |
| 17:38.07 | ^Migs^ | overuse diminished the value of the word |
| 17:38.08 | clsimons | I think it is reasonable to conclude feathers were ruffled was scothoser termed the word 'offensive' |
| 17:38.09 | scothoser | I disagree. It references fornication under concent of the king. It has just been used incorrectly. |
| 17:38.26 | scothoser | *consent |
| 17:38.53 | JoshH | you should say that when you're done bearing your testimony next weekend, and see how it goes over |
| 17:39.15 | sjansen | JoshH: Really? I at a loss what that could possibly mean. |
| 17:39.17 | ^Migs^ | There is a time and place for everything |
| 17:39.37 | sinuhe | sighs |
| 17:39.44 | JoshH | sjansen: you have to think creatively |
| 17:40.05 | tarrant | It doesn't actually scothoser see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuck#False_etymologies |
| 17:40.06 | JoshH | but i think that would have to be used in a very specific context |
| 17:41.33 | BLZbubba | rm -rf perl & rhel |
| 17:41.55 | BLZbubba | their little feud is annoying |
| 17:42.45 | JoshH | what feud? |
| 17:45.16 | scothoser | tarrant: I stand corrected. Thank you. ^_^ Still, as an expletive, it still is used incorrectly, and as such I think my original point still stands. |
| 17:45.56 | tarrant | scothoser: You are correct it is used incorrectly almost all of the time. I personally am guilty of this as well. |
| 17:46.09 | sjansen | RH shipped a buggy Perl resulting in ridiculously poor performance under certain conditions. While a fix was created, RH wasn't comfortable shipping it. Ergo, some Perl people decided RH was incompetent and hated Perl. |
| 17:46.32 | JoshH | i vaguely remember hearing about the RH perl bug now |
| 17:47.33 | scothoser | sjansen: Was there a reason for not shipping the fix? |
| 17:48.09 | sjansen | As I stated, RH wasn't comfortable with it. |
| 17:48.28 | sjansen | Or in other words, they worried that it would cause regression, breaking other things. |
| 17:48.48 | sjansen | Most developers don't understand that known bugs are better than new bugs. |
| 17:49.07 | scothoser | Okay, that's what I was wondering. It seems unlikely that RH would not ship a fix if there were no potential problems. |
| 17:49.16 | sjansen | In the enterprise environment, change is always painful and expensive. |
| 17:49.27 | JoshH | did RH break their perl or was it some other bug? |
| 17:49.49 | sjansen | I don't remember. My better is it depends on who you ask. |
| 17:50.09 | sjansen | s/better/bet/ |
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| 18:26.06 | Tene | JoshH: RH shipped a release of Perl with the bug in it, but refused to ship the "This fixes the performance bug" maintenance release that was released shortly after. |
| 18:47.27 | JoshH | sounds like RH should have just sent out the update |
| 18:47.49 | JoshH | did they cite any specific worries with the patch? |
| 18:49.02 | JoshH | but i guess it could be a conspiracy by all the pythonistas at RH to kill off perl by keeping it crippled and slow |
| 19:06.37 | scothoser | Woohoo! Netherlands are doing great so far! |
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| 20:04.01 | sjansen | Whoa, two points in three minutes. |
| 20:04.35 | scothoser | Yeah! |
| 20:13.57 | JoshH | scothoser: this is why you want the netherlands to win, isn't it? http://guyism.com/2010/07/bobbi-eden-dutch-porn-star-offers-sex-to-twitter-followers.html |
| 20:14.16 | JoshH | slightly nsfw i guess |
| 20:18.51 | scothoser | JoshH: Not really... It's because I have a friend in Holland. That, and I'm curious to see how the Dutch take playing against the Germans. There's a lot of emnity there.. |
| 20:22.07 | sjansen | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqz2rejJS6M |
| 20:25.26 | JoshH | i see |
| 20:25.36 | JoshH | well, i'm slightly disappointed, but oh well |
| 20:27.49 | sjansen | You know, it's kinda sad that I can tell by smell when Flash has gone crazy again. |
| 20:34.35 | scothoser | ?? |
| 20:51.43 | Tene | http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2010/02/a-japanese-soldier-who-continued-fighting-wwii-29-years-after-the-japanese-surrendered-because-he-didnt-know/ |
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| 21:46.48 | sjansen | ~hate xml |
| 21:46.49 | ibot | Hey sjansen, ,,|, |
| 21:47.08 | sjansen | Every |
| 21:47.09 | sjansen | single |
| 21:47.11 | sjansen | XML |
| 21:47.13 | sjansen | library |
| 21:47.16 | sjansen | sucks |
| 21:47.18 | sjansen | . |
| 21:48.11 | elg | ! |
| 21:49.34 | goozbach | sjansen: I think you can simplify that... XML sucks |
| 22:03.05 | orsonj | XML sucks bandwidth apparently |
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| 22:17.41 | Tene | XML support in Perl is pretty great, IMO. |
| 22:17.57 | Tene | I've been frustrated every time I've tried to use XML in other languages, though. |
| 22:18.57 | goozbach | I like XML::Simple |
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| 22:25.48 | Tene | XML::Parser is also pretty nice. |
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| 23:20.57 | Jayce^ | Tene: unless you are working with WSDL's, which suck |
| 23:41.06 | Sargun | WSDLs suck |
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