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| 05:03.31 | Jayce^ | eightyeight: funny, didn't realize we shared a b-day |
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| 12:58.57 | eightyeight | Jayce^: ah, nice |
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| 13:12.10 | goozbach | happy birthday eightyeight, Jayce^ ! |
| 13:35.01 | eightyeight | thx |
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| 14:35.25 | Migs | lol @ Google's new homepage |
| 14:35.37 | Migs | Bing copycat |
| 14:35.50 | Migs | Look at their variable names, too, in the source code of the front page |
| 14:35.51 | Migs | var b,d,e,f;function g(a,c){if(a.removeEventListener){a.removeEventListener("load",c,false);a.removeEventListener("error",c,false)}else{a.detachEvent("onload",c);a.detachEvent("onerror",c)}}function h(a){f=(new Date).getTime();++d;a=a||window.event;var c=a.target||a.srcElement;g(c,h)}var i=document.getElementsByTagName("img");b=i.length;d=0;for(var j=0,k;j<b;++j){k=i[j];if(k.complete||typeof k.src!="string"||!k.src)++d;else if(k.addEventListen |
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| 14:35.55 | Migs | who the heck hired this guy? |
| 14:36.19 | BLZbubba | i would assume it's an obfuscator |
| 14:36.31 | fugue88 | I think I want to college with him... |
| 14:37.21 | fugue88 | s/want/went/ |
| 14:37.41 | fugue88 | ibot: thanks |
| 14:37.41 | ibot | pas de quoi, fugue88 |
| 14:59.59 | eightyeight | google intentionally obfuscates their javascript |
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| 15:26.22 | TodPunk | ibot: die in a horrendous fire |
| 15:26.24 | ibot | ACTION murders in a horrendous fire, takes two shots to the head then crumples to the ground, lifeless... |
| 15:26.44 | TodPunk | well ok |
| 15:27.27 | levi | eightyeight: Probably to reduce bandwidth/load time rather than to make it hard to read. |
| 15:27.54 | eightyeight | indeed |
| 15:29.01 | levi | Man, Ubuntu boots so much faster than XP on my laptop it's ridiculous. |
| 15:29.31 | fugue88 | levi: I just recently got around to installing Ubuntu on my own non-server system, and was very happily surprised. |
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| 15:30.47 | TodPunk | levi: what did you do to your xp install? o.O |
| 15:31.09 | TodPunk | ubuntu 9.10 Desktop x86 takes twice as long to boot up as xp on my mac mini |
| 15:34.11 | eightyeight | my xp install takes almost 3 minites from power on to usable desktop |
| 15:34.25 | eightyeight | despite keeping it as defragged and cleaned up as i can |
| 15:35.29 | levi | TodPunk: I let the IT department touch it. I think that was my first problem. |
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| 15:39.11 | levi | Plus, I never reinstalled it, so it's got the default Lenovo crap installed. |
| 16:02.07 | eightyeight | just saw war games for my first time last night |
| 16:04.24 | clsimons | *cough* overrated |
| 16:04.30 | clsimons | :) |
| 16:04.44 | clsimons | Give me 'Hackers' anyday. |
| 16:05.28 | goozbach | give me sneakers over hackers |
| 16:05.44 | eightyeight | i liked some parts of it |
| 16:06.04 | eightyeight | although, i kept thinking to myself "just pull the blasted plug, for crying out loud" |
| 16:06.42 | clsimons | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/fc/Wargames_View_at_NORAD.png |
| 16:07.14 | clsimons | It's funny that they have this 'NORAD' center all set up with huge monitors, and yet they just stretch 25x80 characters over them (why bother?) in the days before GUIs |
| 16:09.49 | eightyeight | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NORADCommandCenter.jpg |
| 16:14.01 | clsimons | Wow, a new Google homepage. Is this permanent? I've been using Chrome's built-in search and haven't actually been to their homepage in a while. Is that new this morning? |
| 16:14.45 | goozbach | eightyeight: RE: pulling the plug: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decapitation_strike |
| 16:18.39 | eightyeight | goozbach: i was referring to wopr |
| 16:18.49 | eightyeight | unless i misunderstand |
| 16:21.09 | goozbach | yeah |
| 16:21.27 | goozbach | unplugging wopr would cause the automated deadman switches at each bunker to trip |
| 16:21.43 | goozbach | they would assume a decapation strike and retaliate |
| 16:21.54 | eightyeight | i see |
| 16:22.18 | eightyeight | was this communicated in the film? i don't remember anyone talking about the ramifications of pulling the plug |
| 16:22.32 | eightyeight | or even mentioning it for that matter |
| 16:22.34 | goozbach | they mentioned it briefly |
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| 16:22.54 | goozbach | "why don't we unplug it?" |
| 16:22.58 | goozbach | or someshuch |
| 16:23.52 | clsimons | "Just unplug the goddamn thing! \ - Jesus Christ!|- That won't work, General. \ It would interpret a shutdown|as the destruction of NORAD. \ The computers in the silos would carry|out their last instructions. They'd launch." -- http://www.script-o-rama.com/movie_scripts/wargames-script.html |
| 16:24.58 | eightyeight | hmm. must have missed it |
| 16:25.18 | eightyeight | i've got part 2, shot in the 2000s or some such. might watch it tonight |
| 16:26.07 | eightyeight | btw, if you're first, you can win tic-tac-toe |
| 16:29.07 | levi | You can win at tic-tac-toe if you have an opponent that doesn't know how to play. |
| 16:31.40 | fugue88 | µ |
| 16:33.45 | levi | tic-tac-toe is a solved game. |
| 16:34.12 | levi | Perfect play will always lead to a draw. |
| 16:34.51 | levi | Which was the whole point of its inclusion in War Games. |
| 16:35.04 | levi | I don't know what eightyeight is on about. |
| 16:35.14 | fugue88 | :) |
| 16:35.38 | fugue88 | I thought the remark about winning against someone who doesn't know how to play was funny. |
| 16:35.51 | fugue88 | Depends on what you mean by "doesn't know how." |
| 16:35.58 | fugue88 | Lacks strategy, sure. |
| 16:36.09 | levi | Well, one who doesn't know the solution. |
| 16:36.11 | fugue88 | Doesn't know the rules, how could you play enough to get to a win? |
| 16:36.14 | fugue88 | Hence the mu. |
| 16:36.16 | fugue88 | :) |
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| 17:07.20 | TehLaser | I think the point is, most people think they've solved tic-tac-toe and can force a draw going second. |
| 17:08.32 | TehLaser | But there is a strategy for the first player strategy that many don't know how to deal with. |
| 17:08.38 | eightyeight | i was being sarcastic |
| 17:09.09 | eightyeight | although i can see how it didn't come across as such |
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| 17:46.06 | Jayce^ | does the happy dance... |
| 17:46.11 | Jayce^ | "Your mortgage has been paid in full. Thank you for your business! " |
| 17:47.03 | goozbach | awesome!!! |
| 17:47.20 | goozbach | only 10-12 more years for me! |
| 17:49.38 | Jayce^ | hopefully less as income grows, you can overpay more :) |
| 17:50.44 | JoshH | is that a real quote from them? |
| 17:51.16 | Jayce^ | yeah, had to fight with them today because they weren't applying my payment to the balance.. |
| 17:51.27 | Jayce^ | finally updated, and now it shows that |
| 17:51.57 | JoshH | nice |
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| 17:59.22 | levi | Jayce^: Time to upgrade to a bigger house now. ;) |
| 18:00.23 | JoshH | bigger, nicer, and somewhere with utopia and more democrats :) |
| 18:01.31 | unum | murray |
| 18:01.41 | unum | I have a condo I'll sell you :) |
| 18:01.57 | unum | though it's probably smaller |
| 18:01.58 | levi | JoshH: Somehow, that doesn't seem like Jayce^'s style. |
| 18:05.20 | Jayce^ | yeah, as much as we have talked about upgrading, it's kinda hard to go from no mortgage to any... so gotta save up more |
| 18:05.29 | sjansen | C'mon, we all know that Jayce^ is a liberal wingnut embedded to monitor and subvert Utah gun culture. |
| 18:06.06 | levi | Gotta get back on the treadmill. You cheated. You're supposed to have the mortgage until you die. Thus the 'mort' bit. |
| 18:06.09 | sjansen | I mean he's from Seattle for goodness sake! Could they have made it any more obvious? |
| 18:06.26 | goozbach | sjansen: I *ALWAYS* wondered about that... |
| 18:06.50 | levi | I thought conservatives were wingnuts and liberals were moonbats. |
| 18:07.12 | goozbach | levi: the wingnut is his cover |
| 18:08.32 | sjansen | While there is a significanly larger population of right wingnuts in Utah, at the national level there's also a healthy population of left wingnuts. |
| 18:08.41 | levi | Jayce^: You need to buy one of those old converted missile silos or something. |
| 18:08.52 | Jayce^ | woudl if I could :) |
| 18:09.04 | Jayce^ | seen some really nice stuff done with some of them |
| 18:09.05 | unum | on my way to convention there happened to be a democrat from michigan |
| 18:09.30 | unum | she was on the train and started talking to an other democrat who was wearing a shirt indicating he's a democrat |
| 18:09.46 | unum | she's the type of democrat my parents always warned me about |
| 18:10.12 | levi | What kind is that? |
| 18:10.42 | sjansen | Always right, even when wrong. |
| 18:11.08 | levi | Well, those are the worst kind of republicans, too. |
| 18:18.30 | JoshH | your parents warned you about democrats? |
| 18:18.32 | JoshH | heh |
| 18:18.59 | JoshH | "be careful walking home from school, there are lots of child predators and democrats out there on the streets" |
| 18:19.39 | fugue88 | They offer you candy and other handouts. |
| 18:20.45 | JoshH | with needles hidden in it |
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| 18:23.48 | BLZbubba | sjansen: heh i don't think democrats have a monopoly on that kind of mentality |
| 18:24.21 | BLZbubba | remember: all people who stereotype are a-holes |
| 18:24.23 | sjansen | accuses BLZbubba of being a terrorist |
| 18:24.29 | BLZbubba | i told you a million times to stop exaggerating |
| 18:24.33 | JoshH | he knows, he's a secret democratic sympathizer |
| 18:24.38 | JoshH | at least in this channel |
| 18:24.46 | JoshH | in real life he probably wears romney shirts |
| 18:25.20 | BLZbubba | i am going to name my next son mitt mitt |
| 18:25.36 | BLZbubba | kind of like boutros boutros |
| 18:25.50 | BLZbubba | only more chiseled |
| 18:27.05 | BLZbubba | maybe combine my 2 heros and name him mitt rocky |
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| 18:33.59 | Jayce^ | uhhh http://www.utahcountyonline.org/Dept/Sheriff/InmateDetail.asp?id=246376 |
| 18:36.39 | fungus | lol |
| 18:36.43 | levi | That bear stole his last pick-a-nic basket! |
| 18:38.28 | Jayce^ | but won't anybody think about poor boo-boo? |
| 18:39.56 | sjansen | wagers someone messed up and blurred the separation between prod and dev test data |
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| 18:45.08 | clsimons | 246375 is Mickey Mouse |
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| 20:05.37 | unum | sorry I had a meeting |
| 20:06.01 | unum | my parents taught me that democrats were all about sitting around collecting checks from the government |
| 20:06.17 | unum | all the people I know on SSI are republicans |
| 20:06.23 | unum | but then I met this woman |
| 20:06.38 | unum | who complained about social services in utah, and said back home "she has rights" |
| 20:13.34 | emcnabb | ~lart sjansen |
| 20:13.34 | ibot | chops sjansen in half with a free Solaris 7 CD |
| 20:23.52 | Migs | http://www.piratedate.com |
| 20:24.50 | levi | Uh, okay. |
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| 21:29.45 | bonez2046 | how would I purge an application installed 'dpkg -i packagename'? |
| 21:30.07 | bonez2046 | and where would I run the purge? would it be 'sudo dpkg -P packagename'? |
| 21:30.44 | goozbach | dpkg --purge pkgname |
| 21:30.53 | goozbach | yes with sudo |
| 21:31.22 | bonez2046 | ok |
| 22:26.14 | BLZbubba | or rm -rf / |
| 22:26.20 | BLZbubba | that might purge too much other stuff tho |
| 22:27.35 | sjansen | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/06/scowned-no-new-trial-novell-can-shut-down-ibm-lawsuit.ars |
| 22:31.31 | Migs | I can't believe that's still going on |
| 22:32.01 | BLZbubba | time to load up on SCOX stock while you still can! |
| 22:32.49 | Migs | http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=scoxq.pk |
| 22:33.52 | Migs | if they have a growth like they did between last August and March, that's actually not a bad idea |
| 22:34.31 | BLZbubba | better odsds than the powerball at least |
| 22:35.05 | Migs | stocks are cheaper than the powerball, too |
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| 23:10.15 | elg | heh, epic fail correction fail |
| 23:10.32 | elg | " |
| 23:10.32 | elg | We're CS people; we should probably have figured this out by now. If you want to be removed, please don't reply all. A 'little-r' reply should work fine! :)" (it's a mailman list, a little-r reply is unlikely to be any use either, just go to the website) |
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| 23:16.43 | sjansen | I've been resisting the urge to reply to list with announcing Amazing Deal Opportunity(TM). |
