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| 16:35.05 | bonez2046 | I have a disc question: I have a box with win xp pro and ubuntu installed. The ubuntu install is expendable.. but the data on the win xp pro install is not. 200 gb is devoted to xp and 200 gb to ubuntu.. Could I, using a live cd, copy over the folders I want to save, data and apps, to the ubuntu partition, reinstall xp to clean up some corruption there (other than that provided by M$) and then move my data folders backk once xp i |
| 16:35.34 | bonez2046 | any reason why that wouldn't work? |
| 16:38.16 | fugue88 | NTFS (the FS for Win2K, WinXP, &c) allows files to have multiple resource streams. |
| 16:38.25 | fugue88 | It's like 2 or more sets of data in a single file. |
| 16:38.45 | fugue88 | So copying off of NTFS, you might lose some data. |
| 16:38.51 | fugue88 | Also, ACLs &c. |
| 16:39.30 | fugue88 | If you have the space, you could try doing a block-for-block copy from the source to the destination partition. |
| 16:39.50 | fugue88 | Then mount that second in WinXP once it's back up; it'll look just like a normal drive. |
| 16:40.03 | fugue88 | But try mountingg it from XP first, before wiping, of course. |
| 16:40.25 | fugue88 | (I am not an expert) |
| 16:40.32 | fugue88 | (you have been warned) :) |
| 16:52.52 | bonez2046 | thanks, fugue88 > I booted up this time with 10.04 lts disk.. I have the system browser open. it shows both the c:\ of the xp partition and my ubuntu partition.. but the ability to resize the ubuntu partition is greyed out.. and the COPY option is greyed out too, to allow me to copy over the data/directories from one partition to the other... |
| 16:53.50 | bonez2046 | all this data .. is comprised of games and game data and a few documents my sons have written.. it looks they have about 130 gb of data they have downloaded. |
| 16:54.23 | bonez2046 | the reason for all the fuss in the first place is they have hozed xp's networking, it's corrupted somehow. so I want a fresh start with it |
| 16:54.46 | eightyeight | is it possible to list the pids that have been swapped on linux? i presume i would dig through /proc, if a tool doesn't exist to do the job |
| 16:54.52 | eightyeight | google isn't turning up much |
| 16:55.38 | jsmith | I'd just reformat the ubuntu partition as NTFS, and then copy from the XP partition to the new partition |
| 16:56.07 | bonez2046 | thanks.. |
| 17:08.14 | BLZbubba | ok is it possible to have google match characters like @ |
| 17:08.20 | BLZbubba | '@user' doesn't do it |
| 17:08.32 | BLZbubba | can it handle escapes maybe? |
| 17:08.50 | TodPunk | Anyone looking for a PHP job? |
| 17:09.44 | Migs | meh |
| 17:10.00 | Migs | try rentacoder |
| 17:10.02 | eightyeight | BLZbubba: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=google+search+special+characters |
| 17:10.29 | TodPunk | Migs: I think they want someone intelligent =cP |
| 17:10.47 | Migs | who's "they?" |
| 17:11.05 | TodPunk | Sirsi Dynix in Orem/Provo (Riverwoods area) |
| 17:11.31 | BLZbubba | eightyeight: cool ty |
| 17:11.33 | Migs | what do they do? |
| 17:11.37 | BLZbubba | do you drive an oldsmobile or something? |
| 17:11.53 | TodPunk | Library software, mostly in Java, but they need a PHP guy for their website and some other stuff internally. |
| 17:12.09 | Migs | are they looking for someone full-time, or would they take a contractor? |
| 17:12.32 | TodPunk | They have one position open for both those scenarios. |
| 17:12.39 | TodPunk | So pick one? |
| 17:13.01 | TodPunk | If you accept about 50k, you beat me, so it's good all around. I'll even throw in a good word =cP |
| 17:13.12 | Migs | only 50k? No thanks. |
| 17:13.31 | TodPunk | yeah, that's what I'm saying |
| 17:13.33 | Migs | Would they accept a part-time telecommuting contractor? |
| 17:13.48 | TodPunk | nope, they said that up front =cP |
| 17:14.02 | Migs | lol |
| 17:14.18 | Migs | that'd be a good job for someone right out of school |
| 17:14.28 | Migs | or maybe 2nd or 3rd year junior developer |
| 17:14.44 | Migs | I wouldn't expect a PHP job to pay a ton, though |
| 17:14.50 | TodPunk | Nice guys all around. I just don't want the job, and if they make an offer, I kinda have to accept if I want to keep unemployment while I'm looking. |
| 17:15.08 | TodPunk | Maybe I can just be incredibly rude during the interview with the CTO |
| 17:15.09 | Migs | why don't you want the job? |
| 17:15.14 | Migs | oh man, totally do it |
| 17:15.23 | Migs | I've always wanted to just go into an interview I didn't really want and be a complete douchebag |
| 17:15.39 | TodPunk | Low pay, not a career move I want, and I want to focus on my own business right now unless an AWESOME job comes along. |
| 17:16.42 | TodPunk | he was saying the high point would be about 60k, and that's still a little lower than what I want. |
| 17:17.20 | Migs | man |
| 17:17.22 | TodPunk | Again, totally nice folks as far as I've had the experience to work with them, and I worked with them quite a bit when I worked for another company in the same building earlier. |
| 17:17.31 | Migs | I make more than that, and I work for a public school district, of all things |
| 17:17.50 | Migs | you'd think a corporate company could be a little more competitive |
| 17:18.23 | JoshH | it's a php job in utah |
| 17:18.24 | TodPunk | I doubt it. It's a very PHP job. I mean, basic of the basic. |
| 17:18.26 | JoshH | i'd expect it to pay 20k |
| 17:18.47 | TodPunk | is so sick of programmer attitudes in Utah County |
| 17:18.57 | TodPunk | The reason they offer 30k is because PEOPLE ACCEPT 30K |
| 17:19.02 | TodPunk | Oh how I hate them. |
| 17:19.09 | JoshH | because it's that or a call center |
| 17:19.24 | JoshH | or in-n-out burger |
| 17:19.24 | TodPunk | At least the call center job is WORTH 30k |
| 17:19.33 | TodPunk | you'd probably make more at in-n-out |
| 17:19.43 | JoshH | you would definitely eat better |
| 17:19.48 | TodPunk | especially if you move into management |
| 17:19.56 | TodPunk | holy hell does in-n-out pay well |
| 17:20.00 | Migs | really? |
| 17:20.04 | Migs | what's the base wages? |
| 17:20.34 | elg | bash question. |
| 17:20.54 | elg | ARGS="--foo --bar --filename=\"$FILENAME\"" |
| 17:20.55 | TodPunk | Back in 2001, my friend started out at 9.00/hr for his first two weeks, 10/hr after that. |
| 17:20.56 | elg | ... |
| 17:21.06 | Migs | cool |
| 17:21.06 | JoshH | in CA? |
| 17:21.12 | elg | $COMMAND $ARGS |
| 17:21.14 | TodPunk | JoshH: yeah |
| 17:21.23 | TodPunk | Apparently it was the same everywhere else, though |
| 17:21.23 | elg | doesn't work as expected, the quoted quotes are requoted, giving |
| 17:21.36 | elg | command --foo --bar --filename='"/path/to/file"' |
| 17:22.45 | TodPunk | http://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/In-N-Out-Burgers-Salaries-E14276.htm though take that with a grain of salt, of course |
| 17:22.56 | TodPunk | elg: and without quotes? |
| 17:23.11 | elg | well without quotes you run the risk of spaces in filenames screwing it up |
| 17:23.13 | elg | iiuc |
| 17:23.32 | BLZbubba | make sure to pipe into xargs rm |
| 17:23.40 | BLZbubba | (jk ha h) |
| 17:23.41 | BLZbubba | a |
| 17:26.25 | goozbach | elg: what is $COMMAND? |
| 17:26.32 | goozbach | a script/program etc you control? |
| 17:26.49 | goozbach | or something you don't control, and need to interface with |
| 17:27.02 | elg | java -cp "$CLASSPATH" a whole host of java-ish command parameters |
| 17:27.14 | elg | I think this works: |
| 17:27.23 | elg | eval java -cp "$CLASSPATH" $ARGS |
| 17:27.32 | elg | where |
| 17:27.33 | elg | ARGS="$SCHEME -t \"$DATA\"" |
| 17:27.45 | elg | and $DATA is the filename that may have spaces. |
| 17:27.52 | goozbach | dood thems a lot of varibles |
| 17:28.25 | elg | actually, ARGS="$SCHEME -t '$DATA'" even better |
| 17:28.31 | TodPunk | http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs119.snc1/4745_80229039233_503214233_1856084_6368923_n.jpg |
| 17:28.43 | TodPunk | I weep for humanity |
| 17:29.13 | tvc123 | you could all move to Logan ... pay is even worse here :) |
| 17:29.31 | elg | java -cp :/Users/fugalh/phd/weka/weka-3-6-2.jar weka.classifiers.functions.MultilayerPerceptron -L 0.3 -M 0.2 -N 500 -V 0 -S 0 -E 20 -H a -t 'a file with spaces' |
| 17:29.42 | elg | that's the result (bash -x) |
| 17:29.50 | elg | but you do need the eval |
| 17:34.07 | goozbach | glad I could help |
| 17:34.12 | goozbach | if only as a rubber duck |
| 17:35.04 | TodPunk | tvc123: that's only because you have a population of cows greater than the population of human beings. =cP |
| 17:35.59 | levi | Multilayer perceptrons, eh? |
| 17:39.48 | elg | yeah |
| 17:40.01 | elg | artificial neural networks ftw |
| 17:40.09 | levi | I think I knew how to build those at one point. :) |
| 17:40.13 | elg | well, they don't really win. they more like middle the road. :) |
| 17:40.25 | elg | but I have other reasons for using them |
| 17:40.46 | elg | i think building them by hand may be easier than figuring out how to get weka to run them. stupid java |
| 17:40.52 | levi | I am currently trying to figure out how the hell EE types can stand working with FPGA development tools. |
| 17:41.13 | elg | the pain threshold of EE types has always astounded me |
| 17:41.29 | elg | they are pure masochists when it comes to programming languages/environments/etc. |
| 17:41.49 | elg | i think it stems from seeing programming as a necessary evil in the first place. |
| 17:42.23 | levi | Somewhere, somehow, some buffers in FPGA memory are being filled so they can be modified by an embedded processor and sent out on the network. But I'll be damned if I can figure out from the checked-in stuff how the buffers get filled in the first place. |
| 17:42.43 | levi | The EE guy who normally works on this stuff is out of the office, so I can't ask him. |
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| 17:57.07 | levi | It also appears that there are multiple versions of the same bits of code that run on the embedded processor. :/ |
| 18:04.58 | BLZbubba | elg: analog electronics are so painful to deal with that the worst spaghetti code in the world would be more fun |
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| 21:18.07 | keldwud | herro |
| 21:19.37 | keldwud | I'm putting together a couple of computer repair live cd's and I've found a plethora of available options, so I was just looking for a personal recommendation |
| 21:19.49 | keldwud | open source, of course |
| 21:20.42 | goozbach | whatch reparing? |
| 21:20.46 | goozbach | windows machines? |
| 21:20.50 | keldwud | mostly windows boxes |
| 21:20.56 | keldwud | I generally just convert them to ubuntu |
| 21:21.03 | keldwud | because they never have the windows discs |
| 21:21.23 | keldwud | but I have a few clients that insist on keeping windows and removing their viruses the hard way |
| 21:22.34 | keldwud | I've found clamAV, LinuxDefender, Trinity Rescue, Avira, SystemRescue CD, and Slax |
| 21:22.50 | keldwud | was wondering if anybody here has used any of them before |
| 21:23.46 | goozbach | TRK is my fav |
| 21:24.06 | goozbach | I've used System rescue cd and trinity rescue. |
| 21:24.14 | goozbach | I find trinity rescue the better |
| 21:24.15 | keldwud | how often have you used TRK? |
| 21:24.23 | goozbach | of course it's been a few years... |
| 21:24.25 | keldwud | lol |
| 21:24.27 | goozbach | things may have changed |
| 21:24.38 | keldwud | how many viruses did you remove using TRK? |
| 21:25.03 | goozbach | now I don't live in the same state as most of my family, I've not had to do much windows support :) |
| 21:25.13 | goozbach | viruses, not many |
| 21:25.27 | keldwud | people who rely on me consistently, I make them switch to Ubuntu. |
| 21:25.38 | keldwud | because ubuntu is quite user friendly for noobs |
| 21:25.43 | goozbach | but side-effects of viruses (lost registry, boot sector problems, etc.. |
| 21:25.45 | goozbach | ) |
| 21:25.47 | goozbach | lots |
| 21:26.00 | keldwud | ok, TRK is sounding like a good pick. |
| 21:26.20 | keldwud | still want to know more about the rest, but I'll just wait until more people are active |
| 21:26.32 | goozbach | I'd use both If I were stuck |
| 21:29.46 | keldwud | what did system rescue provide you that TRK did not? |
| 21:30.31 | goozbach | I don't recall |
| 21:31.38 | keldwud | thanks for the help/feedback, goozbach |
| 21:32.06 | keldwud | now I just need to figure out how to fix my 64bit flash so that boxee can play hulu |
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| 23:02.41 | keldwud | anyone else have any feedback or input in regards to clamAV, LinuxDefender, Trinity Rescue, Avira, SystemRescue CD, and Slax |
| 23:03.08 | keldwud | looking for a liveCD that I can use to repair virus infected windows machines or repair linux machines |
| 23:28.23 | sontek | I always repair my families windows machines with an ubuntu install disk |
| 23:32.37 | keldwud | sontek - that's how I repair, too. Except I just delete windows and install ubuntu :) |
| 23:33.01 | keldwud | but I have some people who want me to remove viruses and leave windows intact |
| 23:42.18 | sontek | oh, you can't help those type of people |
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