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12:56.53MigsThis guy is the best troll ever: http://deadspin.com/5535220/fake-yo+yo-trickster-fools-every-tv-station-everywhere
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16:45.32rsimpkinsDoes anyone know of a word that is spell the same in two different languages, but means something different?
16:46.26goozbachrsimpkins: sale
16:47.31rsimpkinsIs there a word to describe such words?
16:47.48TodPunkuncoordinated
16:47.59goozbachsale = engilsh as in there is a sale today
16:48.40goozbachsalé = spanish as in slang for "awesome, way to go"
16:48.51elgno accent
16:49.00goozbachno accent then?
16:49.06goozbachI could never spell
16:49.08elgwell, i didn't look at your definition
16:49.16elgis that salAY or SALay?
16:49.23goozbachsalAY
16:49.24elgI've never heard that slang
16:49.29elgthen there is an accent I guess.
16:49.35elgbut sale (no accent) is a spanish word too
16:49.39elga form of the verb saler (to leave)
16:50.02goozbachrsimpkins: there is the idea of homophones
16:50.11Migswell, at least we know the English word is the CORRECT form of "sale."
16:50.19goozbachwords spelt the same but pronounced differently
16:50.26goozbach(read and read)
16:50.42goozbachrEED and rED
16:50.44TodPunkhomophones sound the same
16:50.51TodPunkhomonyms are just spelled the same
16:51.19TodPunkactually, I lied
16:51.28goozbachit's the other way around
16:51.44goozbach(this was on Jepoardy the other night)
16:52.01TodPunkhomograph is the one that has the same spelling (could be pronounced the same or not)
16:52.24TodPunkhomophones are also pronounced the same
16:52.58TodPunkheteronyms are specifically same spelling but differently pronounced (and have different meanins)
16:53.10TodPunkare we thoroughly confused yet?
16:54.40rsimpkinsIn other news, we did 1 TRILLION MySQL transactions the other day!
16:54.45rsimpkinser, queries, sorry, not transactions.
16:55.37rsimpkinsWhich is looking like the new average, by the way. 1 trillion mysql queries every day.
16:56.03rsimpkinssome days it is in the 900 million range, but what's 100 million between freinds?
16:59.03TodPunksee, that kind of scalability is what postgres needs to get its act together for
17:09.01tvc123rsimpkins: thats just a crazy ammount of data
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17:10.28Migswow
17:10.32Migswhich organization is this?
17:10.46Migsand which apps are querying?
17:13.33elgisn't high volume fun?
17:13.39jsmithrsimpkins: Wow... I would have been surprised if they were all transactions :-p
17:13.49jsmithelg: It is though, right?
17:13.51MigsTwitter only does 600 million per day
17:14.22tvc123and even then there are plenty of fail whales
17:17.17macnewboldrsimpkins: 1 TRILLION and 900 MILLION are not 100 million apart from each other. Was one of those supposed to be BILLION?
17:17.43MigsHow do you do 1600+ times more queries than Twitter?
17:18.04macnewboldand the words that are the same/similar in two different languages are called cognates. when they mean something very different, they're called false cognates.
17:18.40macnewboldlike embarrassed and embarazada in spanish - it means pregnant
17:19.07goozbachthat was very embarassing when I said I was pregnant
17:24.41markl_bless in french means to hurt or wound (blesser)
17:25.07rsimpkinsmacnewbold: yes, I failed to use billion, you are correct.
17:25.51markl_goozbach: nothing to be embarrased about; hopefully you at least know who the father is
17:26.22goozbachwell it's this alien chick I held hands with at one point
17:26.35markl_heh i guess that wasn't her hand
17:27.51elginteresting thing in spanish, "situación embarazosa = embarrassing situation"
17:27.53unumcual es el animal mas flojo en el total mundo?
17:28.06goozbachhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unexpected_%28Star_Trek:_Enterprise%29
17:28.41goozbachunum: no sé. ¿Qual?
17:29.07elgembarrass comes from french or maybe portuguese, originally meaning something like encumbered or blocked. you can find english usages in that sense
17:29.15unumgoozbach: el pescado
17:29.50elgnot sure why that jumped to our current sense
17:30.01elgfiguring out the jump in spanish takes less imaginatino
17:31.35unumpor que hace el pescado total dia?
17:32.26unumpor que, que hace el pescado total dia?
17:35.51goozbach¿que hace el pescado total el día?
17:37.49unumnada
17:37.55unumhahahaha
17:40.01goozbachunum: Eso sí que es? ¿que es?
17:40.18unumno se
17:41.29goozbachcalcetines!
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17:42.53unumI don't think anyone else in enjoy the spanish puns
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17:54.01markl_unum: you don't se
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19:43.08tensairsimpkins: how many servers? what's the read vs write percentage?
20:00.46markl_and i wonder how complex the queries are
20:02.21goozbachI would guess that the majority are select foo from bar limit 1;
20:02.24Migshttp://www.techeye.net/internet/woman-says-3d-porno-made-her-pregnant
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20:06.34jsmithgoozbach: You'd probably be wrong :-p
20:08.55rsimpkinstensai: About 10,000 servers running MySQL, and 80-85%% write.
20:08.59tensaigoozbach: most of them are update bank_account set balance = balance + 10 where owner = 'jsmith'
20:09.15rsimpkins~pong sjansen
20:10.00tensairsimpkins: so about 100,000 queries per server, on average. not too shabby. especially considering the write ratio.
20:10.41rsimpkinstensai: Do you mean 100,000,000 per server?
20:11.26tensairsimpkins: you're right. too many zeros to keep track of them all.
20:11.41tensaieven more impressive
20:12.19rsimpkinsThat's about 1500 qps, but honestly some of our systems reach in the 4k qps range.
20:12.24rsimpkinssome less.
20:12.52tensaiI would also assume you have more traffic during the north american day and less at night
20:13.10rsimpkinsYes, it follows the curve pretty close.
20:13.23rsimpkinsHowever, the overseas stuff is growing very fast.
20:17.18tensairsimpkins: have we forced you to talk at utosc yet?
20:18.44rsimpkinstensai: Dan Hanks represented us last time.
20:18.52rsimpkinsWe tend to make him the public go to guy.
20:19.09tensaiah. I went to his presentation.
20:44.17markl_rsimpkins: is this mysql-cluster?
20:45.22rsimpkinsmarkl_: No.
20:45.32rsimpkinscluster at this size would be massivley insane.
20:45.38rsimpkinsand would probably fall over.
20:46.30rsimpkinsI'm not sure how many petabytes we have behind MySQL these days, but I'd guess it is in the 7-9PB range.
20:46.56goozbachrsimpkins: what do you use as a backing store?
20:47.00goozbachhardware wise?
20:47.24rsimpkinsVarious. We've got a mixture of Enterprise level storage systems and DAS systems. It is all RAIDed out, very nice setup.
20:47.44rsimpkinsThe architecture can always be improved, but that's probably true of most complex Enterprise systems.
20:50.54markl_so it isn't just one big schema then, is it?
20:52.01rsimpkinsmarkl_: Distributed/federated star schema.
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21:27.39unumhttp://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/05/10/why-bother-with-the-constitution/
21:28.07unumI think that explains pretty well the views some of expressed in here regarding judges an the constitution
21:30.27unumI agree more with the book's author than the article's author
21:31.59unumin that I don't think the founding fathers all had one clear idea about what each part meant exactly
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22:22.21TodPunkrsimpkins: I need a way to contact you in case I get done with class in time to make it to the meeting but I'd be late regardless.
22:24.23rsimpkinsTodPunk: You can text me, I put my number on the sign taped to the door.
22:24.54TodPunkawesome.  Is it just the main front entrance?
22:26.03rsimpkinsTodPunk: The doors to the west (left) of the main entrance. There will be signs.
22:26.15TodPunkcool beans.  Thank you.
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22:54.25TodPunkkinky
23:15.39TodPunkhttp://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2007/02/why-cant-programmers-program.html  Oh how true it is

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