| 00:10.07 | markl_ | JoshH: #ubuntu |
| 00:10.11 | markl_ | for your alt key |
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| 14:10.39 | tensai | ah crap. I reported a netflix movie didn't arrive, but then I found it. now they're sending me another copy and I can't stop it. |
| 14:11.04 | jsmith | tensai: C'est la vie... not much you can do about it, besides just send them both back |
| 14:12.00 | Migs | lol, thief |
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| 14:22.07 | tensai | what's really weird is that I got a torn up netflix mailer from the post office, all wrapped up in plastic with an apology. so at some point a movie must have been lost but I have no idea because I can account for all of them. |
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| 15:09.06 | Migs | that happened to me once, too |
| 15:09.13 | Migs | yet I have all my movies...weird |
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| 16:09.01 | Migs | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/london/8663742.stm |
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| 17:01.28 | moriancumer | Does anyone know of a way to follow the top of a file, similar to 'tail -f' but for the top? Head doesn't have the follow option. |
| 17:02.07 | goozbach | moriancumer: watch -n 1 "head -n 3" |
| 17:03.55 | moriancumer | goozbach: Awesome. Thanks! |
| 17:10.47 | fozzmoo | Hacky... but effective. |
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| 17:18.17 | jsmith | fozzmoo: Hacky? |
| 17:29.02 | sjansen | ~hack fozzmoo |
| 17:29.03 | ibot | ACTION teaches fozzmoo nethack so that fozzmoo will play until 6 AM |
| 17:31.56 | sjansen | shakes his fist at gmail for its imap brokenness |
| 17:32.37 | goozbach | yup |
| 17:34.11 | fozzmoo | At least it's better than hotmail's imap nothingness. |
| 17:34.38 | fozzmoo | isn't sure why he mentioned that. |
| 17:34.53 | goozbach | uses fetchmail to pull everything down to his own SMTP server |
| 17:35.08 | goozbach | hotmail, yahoo main, gmail, etc... |
| 17:36.49 | jsmith | goozbach: Not using offlineimap? |
| 17:38.16 | goozbach | jsmith: nah |
| 17:38.21 | goozbach | using my own IMAP server |
| 17:38.26 | goozbach | dovecot |
| 17:38.38 | goozbach | and sieve and smartsieve |
| 17:38.57 | goozbach | all my spam filtering is done via google apps for my domain |
| 17:39.06 | goozbach | and pulled down via fetchmail |
| 18:19.38 | Migs | BAM! http://www.google.com/finance |
| 18:25.03 | Gate | So, apparently we, as a species and the governments of Europe have learned nothing from the last century of on-again-off-again resessions and depressions |
| 18:25.12 | Gate | Sigh. |
| 18:26.27 | Migs | http://gizmodo.com/5532341/yes-microsoft-office-alarms-us-too |
| 18:26.39 | Migs | Gate: Yeah, go fig |
| 18:28.42 | levi | I love google mail for the spam filtering. |
| 18:29.13 | levi | Also for the easily searchable cloud archive of my mail. |
| 18:30.15 | levi | Gate: Or maybe we have, and it's the Austrian economists that are stuck in the past? |
| 18:31.55 | levi | I wouldn't claim to know who's right in the economics debate, but I find the underpinnings of Austrian economics a bit suspect. |
| 18:35.18 | TodPunk | In other news, Indigo Girls has some nice acoustic tracks |
| 18:35.30 | levi | I like the Indigo Girls. |
| 18:36.00 | TodPunk | They're relaxing |
| 18:36.43 | sontek | Do you guys know of a some development server that works well with PHP? |
| 18:36.56 | levi | TodPunk: Ever listened to Hem? |
| 18:37.16 | sontek | I'm used to having django and asp.net's development servers around so I don't have to reconfigure apache on every box I develop on |
| 18:37.47 | TodPunk | levi: can't say that I have |
| 18:37.50 | TodPunk | I could have heard of it. |
| 18:38.14 | TodPunk | sontek: lighttpd? |
| 18:38.50 | levi | I first heard them as an opening band for Beth Orton when she came on tour a few years ago, and I loved them so much I ran out and bought their CD as soon as they finished their set. |
| 18:39.08 | levi | If you like folksy and relaxing, check them out. |
| 18:39.14 | TodPunk | sontek: the bit with django is its built into the framework and asp.net its built into the IDE usually. PHP has no such luxury |
| 18:39.19 | fugue88 | sontek: I just setup lighttpd for PHP this morning. FastCGI. Very nice. |
| 18:39.35 | TodPunk | levi: I like many things. I'll check them out =c) |
| 18:41.01 | levi | My Rabbit Songs CD was autographed by Sally Ellyson, who is their singer. She was very nice. |
| 18:48.56 | fugue88 | Just switched my PHP/lighttpd from an IP socket to a Unix domain socket. |
| 18:48.59 | fugue88 | Sweet. |
| 19:03.30 | sjansen | sontek: "development server"? |
| 19:04.28 | goozbach | sjansen: kinda like the built in webserver of django, or catalyst |
| 19:08.34 | rsimpkins | How do you loose 8 billion dollars? I mean, that is just really impressive. |
| 19:08.55 | rsimpkins | They lost 8B in 3 months. |
| 19:09.05 | rsimpkins | I'm... speechless. |
| 19:09.13 | sjansen | Who? |
| 19:09.22 | fungus | check the couch cushions |
| 19:09.25 | JoshH | lots and lots of hookers and blow |
| 19:09.32 | rsimpkins | Everyone's favorite company, Freddie Mac. |
| 19:09.58 | JoshH | i'm sure bill o'reilly says they were partying hard with barney frank and getting a bunch of gay prostitutes |
| 19:10.05 | Migs | anyone else watching the live roller coaster? http://google.com/finance |
| 19:10.27 | rsimpkins | What is that, $80 million a day or so? |
| 19:12.04 | rsimpkins | Migs: I wonder why it rebounded. |
| 19:12.46 | rsimpkins | Dang, now would be a great time to buy some of these stocks. |
| 19:13.35 | rsimpkins | It really seems like a computer glitch or something. Every stock I've checked, even tiny ones, took a sharp dip. |
| 19:13.45 | rsimpkins | then quickly recovered. |
| 19:14.24 | levi | Maybe there are a bunch of automated trade programs running the same algorithm that all did the same thing at the same time. |
| 19:14.49 | rsimpkins | It is too fast and too across the board for me to believe traders did that knowingly. |
| 19:14.57 | sjansen | Goldman Sachs told their quants to demonstrate to Washington what'll happen if things don't go their way. |
| 19:15.24 | sjansen | "Nice little economy you've got their. Be a real shame is something happened to it." |
| 19:15.38 | rsimpkins | Yeah, something is pretty fishy with it. |
| 19:15.59 | levi | Hmm, the company exchange server and web proxy just went down. :/ |
| 19:16.22 | levi | I guess it didn't kill existing connections, since this one is still up, but I can't even hit google. |
| 19:16.33 | rsimpkins | Some of these stocks recovered in less than 10 minutes. |
| 19:16.51 | rsimpkins | How do you drop 20%, then recover in 10 minutes? |
| 19:16.58 | JoshH | the whole stock system is a complete mess |
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| 19:22.33 | sjansen | 20%? I'm only seeing 8%. |
| 19:23.41 | rsimpkins | sjansen: I was refering to a few stocks I spot checked. |
| 19:25.04 | rsimpkins | We are still sliding down though. |
| 19:25.16 | rsimpkins | RHT is down 6%, for example. |
| 19:25.44 | rsimpkins | AAPL is down about the same. |
| 19:27.07 | rsimpkins | AAPL started at 254 tody, reached a high of 257. Then in minutes fell to 216, then rose to 240 in minutes. |
| 19:27.20 | rsimpkins | Seems.... very odd. |
| 19:27.32 | rsimpkins | Now they are are in a gentle fall. |
| 19:28.15 | fugue88 | Goldman Sachs' HFT system must have lost connectivity... j/k |
| 19:28.32 | rsimpkins | Someone with lots of money is going to make even more money. |
| 19:29.45 | rsimpkins | I wanna know who bought AAPL at 216 and made 11% in 3 minutes. |
| 19:33.38 | rsimpkins | "I think the machines just took over. There's not a lot of human interaction," said Charlie Smith, chief investment officer at Fort Pitt Capital Group. |
| 19:33.46 | rsimpkins | skynet is here. |
| 19:35.01 | JoshH | time for a war on computers |
| 19:35.25 | rsimpkins | Seems we need a better control, like, if all the sudden 70% of the loss prevention trades kick off - stop traiding until we can figure out what's up. |
| 19:53.09 | markl_ | Gate: every generation has to re-learn the lessons |
| 20:03.51 | JoshH | 14:03 <@scratch> CNN is reporting the crash was a computer glich triggered by a faulty trade of Proctor and Gamble |
| 20:06.56 | Migs | haha yeah, I just saw that |
| 20:07.38 | Migs | I bet the people who had the standing buy orders aren't too happy |
| 20:11.37 | rsimpkins | Yeah, figured it was something like that. |
| 20:11.58 | tensai | need some puppet help here |
| 20:12.15 | rsimpkins | When youre financial system is tied to a computer system - fun and games will ensue. |
| 20:12.28 | tensai | I want to set up a more automatic recipe for defining hosts |
| 20:13.04 | markl_ | tensai: what part are you trying to automate? |
| 20:13.27 | tensai | right now I define "class host-foo" and then add an include, such as "node foo.example.com { include class host-foo }" |
| 20:13.45 | tensai | I'd rather just put a rule in my default node to include host-foo.example.com if it exists |
| 20:14.17 | markl_ | interesting, i have never tried including a variable |
| 20:14.25 | markl_ | there is a #puppet channel that is often helpful |
| 20:14.30 | tensai | that way I don't have to define each node twice |
| 20:15.02 | markl_ | so you are doing this just to clean up your nodes.pp file? |
| 20:15.42 | tensai | yeah basically |
| 20:15.55 | markl_ | well give it a try, set a variable to host-foo and see if you can include it |
| 20:16.20 | markl_ | if that works, you can do something with the host name in the base class |
| 20:16.38 | markl_ | are you inheriting a common class already? |
| 20:17.33 | markl_ | i have a node common { ... } in templates.pp |
| 20:20.36 | markl_ | that all nodes inherit from, e.g. node 'foo' inherits common { ... } |
| 20:26.46 | tensai | I was able to include a variable |
| 20:26.57 | tensai | right now I have node default which everything includes |
| 20:27.27 | tensai | and node default is automatically applied to every host, I believe |
| 20:31.12 | tensai | node default { include "host-$hostname" } |
| 20:31.46 | tensai | that will work, but if class host-foo doesn't exist, it throws an error. I'd rather it just quietly continue. |
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| 21:02.04 | sjansen | puppet recipes are a mess |
| 21:08.33 | markl_ | they can definitely get out of control if you're not careful |
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| 21:14.20 | Tene | Messy out-of-control puppets? Isn't there a horror movie about that? |
| 21:24.22 | levi | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKNqc3a9Xqs <- Funny, but with some strong language |
| 21:34.07 | goozbach | dying hard drives turned into music: http://www.boredathenians.com/Hitachi_Hard-Drive_Project_-_Noriko_Version.mp3 |
| 21:45.36 | sjansen | Heh. Bing is being advertised on YouTube. |
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| 22:14.27 | TodPunk | epic, goozbach |
| 22:16.05 | goozbach | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hwLbhpatJo |
| 22:16.07 | goozbach | alan! |
| 22:20.22 | TodPunk | levi: I love you more each day xD |
| 22:25.10 | fozzmoo | levi and TodPunk sitting in a tree... |
| 22:26.51 | eightyeight | shakes his head |
| 22:27.08 | eightyeight | zsh ships with a tetris game because "it's not as complete as emacs" |
| 22:27.36 | TodPunk | My orange also isn't as complete as my apple |
| 22:36.59 | TimRiker | does anyone here setup asterisk servers for pay? I want to replace our switch with an asterisk install. |
| 22:37.45 | eightyeight | TimRiker: i'm sure jsmith-away would fly out at the right price |
| 22:39.21 | tvc123 | eightyeight: I know there are contractors in UT that do that |
| 22:39.44 | tvc123 | eightyeight: hit up tristanbob__ |
| 22:39.50 | fozzmoo | TimRiker: Have you asked on #utaug? |
| 22:39.55 | TodPunk | TimRiker: considered Freeswitch? =cP |
| 22:40.25 | fozzmoo | TimRiker: I'd ask on #utaug. Plenty of consultant-types hang out there. |
| 22:40.51 | TodPunk | TimRiker: gundy does both, but he prefers FreeSWITCH for a variety of reasons. |
| 22:41.03 | eightyeight | tvc123: i'm not the one that needs the consulting. :) |
| 22:41.40 | tvc123 | can't read or write |
| 22:41.50 | fozzmoo | ~teach tvc123 |
| 22:41.59 | fozzmoo | ~taunt tvc123 |
| 22:42.00 | ibot | ACTION taunts tvc123 a second time |
| 22:43.46 | TimRiker | ok, thanx. I'll ask around. :) |
| 22:44.03 | tensai | TimRiker: how complicated a switch is it? |
| 22:46.00 | eightyeight | for being the author/maintainer of a popular irc bot, i would expect tim to be an irssi/bitchx/erc-behind-screen-type-of-guy |
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