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| 13:29.53 | eightyeight | http://bsdmag.org/magazine/1067-embedded-bsd |
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| 15:00.27 | fozzmoo | http://failblog.org/2010/05/04/epic-fail-videos-lip-syncing-fail-2/ |
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| 17:26.25 | markl_ | whats up |
| 17:26.28 | markl_ | sure is quiet in here lately |
| 17:27.44 | jsmith | w00t! |
| 17:27.47 | jsmith | ducks and hides |
| 17:27.48 | goozbach | a little too quiet! |
| 17:27.55 | goozbach | a little too jsmith |
| 17:27.58 | jsmith | goozbach: True, that... we need some controversy! |
| 17:28.12 | jsmith | accuses goozbach of being a Marxist double-agent |
| 17:28.58 | goozbach | double how? |
| 17:29.26 | goozbach | is there such thing as a triple-agent? |
| 17:29.43 | jsmith | goozbach: Funny you should mention that... I've got just the article for you to read! |
| 17:30.09 | goozbach | these hiccups are annoying |
| 17:30.20 | jsmith | http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/atlarge/2010/05/10/100510crat_atlarge_gladwell |
| 17:30.37 | jsmith | I don't always agree with Gladwell, but he's a heck of a storyteller, nonetheless |
| 17:33.07 | jsmith | goes back to enjoying the quiet while goozbach reads |
| 17:34.43 | jsmith | goozbach: In reality, it boils down to this question: Do the Marxists know that we know that they know you're a double (triple?) agent? |
| 17:36.19 | goozbach | operation mincemeat was pretty cool |
| 17:36.28 | jsmith | Or was it? |
| 17:36.44 | jsmith | (You obviously haven't read the entire article) |
| 17:48.03 | goozbach | I clearly can't drink the wine in front of you |
| 19:14.41 | Migs | http://news.discovery.com/space/james-cameron-at-caltech-the-science-of-pandora.html |
| 19:15.02 | Migs | Avatards |
| 19:24.22 | levi | jsmith-away: Fun article. |
| 19:45.41 | Migs | http://i.imgur.com/XgBnC.jpg SFW |
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| 20:35.57 | TodPunk | jsmith: privacy online an facebook. I say there is no such thing as online privacy and Facebook provides a good opportunity for some control of presentation for my information as I want it, which is better than any of us could hope for. Go! |
| 20:43.14 | jsmith | TodPunk: Huh? I very much believe you can be private online. Facebook's (constantly shifting) default security policy makes it hard to know exactly where your information is going to be shared. Hence the reason you don't see me posting embarrassing photos on Facebook. |
| 20:43.46 | jsmith | TodPunk: Besides, don't you know Facebook was invented by the FBI to make it easier to spy on Americans? |
| 20:44.10 | jsmith | wonders how many other conspiracy theories he can roll into this thread before someone figures out he's only joking |
| 20:47.13 | TodPunk | Three years ago I was challenged by a 16 year old on IRC to find out information about him. I only knew his first and last name and his state. Within 15 minutes I had his home address, both his parents' cells, his cell, where his parents worked, and his school schedule, all from publicly available info. |
| 20:47.36 | TodPunk | Admittedly, the school schedule was because his high school were idiots, but it didn't take any technical knowledge to get any of it |
| 20:48.25 | TodPunk | Nowadays, a lot of sites are automating this process, to the point that anything useful in marketing to you is easily accessible. Spikeo.com is a recent example. It's slow and fairly innacurate, but it's getting a lot better as they get into it. |
| 20:48.57 | fozzmoo | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuT6GNS-nHE |
| 20:50.21 | TodPunk | A while back, I think a couple years, a college project showed that you could read keyboard input from any keyboard, wireless or not, from 20 feet away. It used some big cloogy hardware, but the guy admitted that if he had time and inclination, you could build it into a small handheld device that could listen from hundreds of yards. |
| 20:51.47 | JoshH | that's why i have tinfoil lining on all my walls |
| 20:51.53 | TodPunk | I don't necessarily condone this lack of privacy, but nothing anyone does is going to change the fact that information useful to businesses will get into their hands. How hard we make it is just a factor of how shadily it will be used and how much less control we'll have over it. |
| 20:52.06 | jsmith | TodPunk: I'm *not* saying that you can't be traced online, especially for public info |
| 20:52.34 | jsmith | TodPunk: What I *don't* want is a future employer to be able to go in and read every post I've made to Facebook |
| 20:53.18 | JoshH | i don't use fb or twitter at all |
| 20:53.24 | JoshH | but my wife does |
| 20:53.32 | JoshH | i should probably make sure she has the right privacy settings |
| 20:54.10 | TodPunk | I keep my profile public because I don't want to work for an employer that doesn't value my thoughts anyway. That's just my philosophy though, and it has admittedly cost me a couple jobs, I'm sure. |
| 20:54.34 | JoshH | i'm the same way |
| 20:54.42 | JoshH | i wouldn't work anywhere that cared about my fb profile, if i had one |
| 20:54.49 | fozzmoo | :) |
| 20:55.03 | fozzmoo | I'm going to say what I mean and mean what I say. I want my employer to respect me for that. |
| 20:55.16 | TodPunk | Though I see Facebook as sort of a marketing opp for my info anyway. So I'm not posting "HEY! I HATE <insert racial group here>!!!" or anything ridiculous like that. |
| 20:55.36 | fozzmoo | I HATE ALIENS! |
| 20:55.40 | TodPunk | I found out today that non-friends can post on my status =cP |
| 20:55.48 | TodPunk | I think that's awesome, truth be told. |
| 20:55.53 | JoshH | i only write that god hates gays, not myself! |
| 20:55.59 | Migs | you can change that |
| 20:56.18 | Migs | the non-friends posting, that is. Not the God-hates-gays-writing. |
| 20:57.10 | fozzmoo | heh. |
| 20:57.23 | TodPunk | Migs: I know. I just don't want to. |
| 20:58.16 | Migs | I didn't at first, but I recently decided to. It started getting weird when people from chat rooms tracked me down and posted on my Facebook wall. I'd prefer to keep those two separate. |
| 20:58.22 | TodPunk | I'm also against censorship in my facebook. I think it's great that you CAN control things like that, but I don't care to do so. |
| 20:59.15 | JoshH | wishes the right alt key worked in lucid and doesn't want to spend time figuring out how to fix it |
| 20:59.16 | TodPunk | I've done a lot of stupid things in my past and I think it's important that people that want to know can find that and look at the progress I've made, or expose their own stupidity to me by not recognizing progress where it is. I haven't done anything many others haven't done before, and I learned from them, so why not? |
| 20:59.30 | fozzmoo | TodPunk: Exactly. |
| 21:00.32 | Migs | true enough |
| 21:01.21 | Migs | I have nothing to hide, really. I don't try to pretend I'm somehow "anonymous" anywhere online. There are a few old things from online I wish would go away, but oh well. |
| 21:01.23 | unum | I'm afraid a future employer will go through this log and find all the stupid questions I've asked :) |
| 21:01.25 | TodPunk | I get censored a lot by one of my friends, whose family hates me for my "rude posts" because I call them out (tastefully, in my opinion) on some of the things they write. It's annoying that he doesn't stand up for his friends for anything if it will take effort, but I welcome his right to live such a life. In fact, that ability tells me a lot about him, and I find that information valuable. |
| 21:01.51 | TodPunk | unum: did you ask them several times, or just once? |
| 21:02.17 | unum | TodPunk: for all I know I ask the same questions every week ;) |
| 21:03.20 | unum | hmmm I need to block updates to a certain table in a database based off of the date in a timestamp field |
| 21:03.33 | unum | like after ten days don't let anyone change this |
| 21:03.49 | unum | I'm tempted to just do it in the application |
| 21:07.18 | Migs | RT: @BreakingNews: U.S. government mortgage backer Freddie Mac asks for $10.6 billion more in federal aid - AP |
| 21:07.23 | Migs | srsly? |
| 21:08.14 | TodPunk | What if Bernie Mac asked for $10.6 Billion? |
| 21:08.30 | TodPunk | (even though he's dead |
| 21:08.32 | TodPunk | ) |
| 21:08.45 | Migs | where'd all the billions go that we already gave them? |
| 21:08.54 | unum | bonuses |
| 21:09.16 | TodPunk | executive retreats |
| 21:09.21 | TodPunk | layoff processing |
| 21:17.51 | TodPunk | would have a really hard time spending 10.6 Billion on much of anything |
| 21:18.13 | fozzmoo | Elliot Spitzer could do it. |
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| 22:21.31 | elg | ibot teaches levi's mother what a monad is |
| 22:21.55 | elg | just a little mother's day horror, folks. |
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