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| 00:08.24 | TodPunk | rsimpkins: true. We should get him to write articles for those questions simply entitled "Sjansen says: [yes|no]" with no actual article. It's all we'd need. |
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| 04:19.44 | elg | alas. comcast has gone and encrypted a bunch of (most of?) my non-local channels |
| 04:19.55 | elg | at least, the 3 or so I cared about. :-/ |
| 04:20.19 | elg | now I have to decide whether to rent/use their stupid DVR or cancel tv service. |
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| 16:02.56 | goozbach | save a great story: http://goats.com/forums/news/7626/ |
| 16:02.59 | goozbach | buy a book! |
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| 17:50.08 | sjansen | ~rlart |
| 17:50.08 | ibot | judo chops jnbek |
| 18:09.58 | eightyeight | ~vulcan sjansen |
| 18:12.04 | sjansen | ~stab eightyeight |
| 18:12.05 | ibot | ACTION runs at eightyeight with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
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| 19:23.55 | rsimpkins | Do we hve netsplits going on or what? |
| 19:26.56 | macnewbold | looks like it's only the guys at nat/redhat? |
| 19:27.09 | macnewbold | nobody else is going in and out |
| 19:34.11 | rsimpkins | I need an idea.... I want to parse a big log every day, and send an e-mail if there is anything out of the ordinary. The log is almost identical every day. |
| 19:34.29 | rsimpkins | But I'd only like an e-mail if things are found. |
| 19:34.55 | rsimpkins | Something like, cat /var/biglog | grep -v "stuff I know about" | mail -s "stuff I don't know" someone@example.com |
| 19:35.44 | rsimpkins | I could probably do something like grep -v "stuff" | grep -q ??? && mail |
| 19:35.59 | rsimpkins | Just a little confused how I'd tackle that one. |
| 19:37.16 | rsimpkins | actually, maybe that is all I need to do? |
| 19:37.38 | jsmith | rsimpkins: Something wrong with using "logwatch"? |
| 19:38.02 | jsmith | rsimpkins: You could certainly do it with grep/sed/awk, but I think it'll probably be more flexible to use something like logwatch |
| 19:38.11 | rsimpkins | jsmith: I do, I'm trying to focus in on a very specific case. |
| 19:38.23 | rsimpkins | I've got my own logwatch modules, etc. |
| 19:38.57 | jsmith | rsimpkins: Ah... gotcha. (I still don't understand why logwatch isn't doing what you want, but I'll trust you) |
| 19:39.08 | jsmith | rsimpkins: In that case, grep is your friend :-) |
| 19:39.09 | tvc123 | rsimpkins: you could just run it through grep -v and pull out the things you expect to be there |
| 19:39.31 | tvc123 | reads the backlog yeah just like you said |
| 19:39.33 | rsimpkins | tvc123: Yeah, the trick was optionally sending an e-mail. I'm pretty sure ending in && mail is my answer. |
| 19:39.35 | jsmith | rsimpkins: Obviously, if you give us more details, we'll give you a detailed answer :-p |
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| 19:52.58 | mrpull | rsimpkins: if it is an everyday thing, cant you just rely on cron to email the output? |
| 19:53.28 | sjansen | Sounds like a job for Obscene Number of Perl Regular Expressions Man(TM)! |
| 19:54.42 | JoshH | rsimpkins: i do almost exactly what you're talking about, except it's for ps output instead of a log |
| 19:55.42 | JoshH | and for netstat output too |
| 19:55.42 | rsimpkins | mrpull: Yes, but I like to filter messages a little cleaner. |
| 19:55.42 | rsimpkins | This is going to be just a temporary thing. I don't like doing things like this long term. |
| 20:01.27 | rsimpkins | ahh fortune, you are so wise. I love your binary. Here is my fortune for today: Drilling for oil is boring. |
| 20:02.45 | eightyeight | heh |
| 20:04.03 | rsimpkins | I think once BP gets those domes in place, we could also say "Drilling for oil sucks." |
| 20:04.58 | rsimpkins | Or, when your oil well leaks, it is time for sucking up. |
| 20:05.20 | eightyeight | is waiting to get taxed at the pump to pay for their incompetence |
| 20:05.44 | rsimpkins | eightyeight: you haven't been for the last several years? |
| 20:05.52 | eightyeight | heh |
| 20:06.36 | rsimpkins | It is the free market, right? If you don't like it - don't use oil! ;-) |
| 20:06.55 | eightyeight | working towards that |
| 20:07.19 | rsimpkins | eightyeight: And the plastics? |
| 20:08.21 | rsimpkins | I'd like to reduce the amount of corn derivative products in my diet. I would probably starve to death though. |
| 20:09.06 | eightyeight | i don't know what plastics they're producing |
| 20:09.27 | eightyeight | but my aversion from oil has less to do with who and more to do with my wallet |
| 20:10.07 | unum | pretty much any plastict you buy is petroleum based |
| 20:10.21 | eightyeight | of course |
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| 20:11.14 | unum | I wonder if there's a map detailing where your gas station oil comes from..... |
| 20:12.09 | rsimpkins | unum: http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/petroleum/data_publications/company_level_imports/current/import.html |
| 20:12.24 | eightyeight | i'm not really interested in boycotting bp, or any other oil company individually |
| 20:12.37 | unum | rsimpkins: I want to see where MY oil comes from |
| 20:12.57 | unum | that's just which companies are importing it, it doesn't have anything to do with which companies are selling it |
| 20:13.27 | rsimpkins | unum: You want to know which refinery produce the gas in your car, and where they got the raw materials? |
| 20:13.34 | unum | rsimpkins: ya |
| 20:14.37 | unum | though I think I already know |
| 20:17.15 | tensai | your gas likely comes from the refineries north of salt lake |
| 20:18.02 | unum | which pumps it in from wyoming I believe |
| 20:21.42 | tensai | all the wells in wyoming that I know of are natural gas, but I don't exactly know everything about fossil fuels |
| 20:31.15 | unum | http://www.maps.utah.gov/subject/subject.php?var=Geologic |
| 20:31.31 | unum | well it comes to utah from wyoming, don't know where it is before then |
| 20:32.33 | jsmith | tensai: Wyoming does a lot of oil *and* natural gas *and* coal |
| 20:33.04 | jsmith | tensai: In fact, my dad told me a couple of weeks ago that Wyoming now has the highest coal production of any state in the US (and it's low-sulfur coal!) |
| 20:33.42 | tensai | yeah. I was just reading about that. http://www.pawyo.org/facts.html |
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| 20:37.19 | jsmith | tensai: That's one of the reasons Wyoming has no state income tax |
| 20:37.34 | jsmith | tensai: (and has a nice rainy-day fund to boot) |
| 20:42.48 | tensai | jsmith: yeah but who wants petroleum rain? not exactly the best rain for dancing, if you know what I mean. |
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| 20:48.26 | unum | tensai: apparantly you've never seen ..... |
| 20:48.33 | unum | darn couldn't think of anything |
| 20:48.42 | unum | I was sure there's a movie where they dance in oil |
| 20:48.48 | reugen | zoolander |
| 20:49.44 | reugen | well, gasoline. but close enough... |
| 20:50.29 | tensai | and that worked out very well for them |
| 20:50.58 | reugen | ;) |
| 20:51.10 | tensai | had forgotten that movie |
| 20:51.14 | tensai | that was my favorite scene |
| 20:51.31 | eightyeight | the transporter fights in crude oil |
| 20:51.41 | eightyeight | with bike petals to grip the cement surface |
| 20:51.46 | goozbach | with bike petals |
| 20:51.50 | goozbach | that's a fight scene |
| 20:51.52 | goozbach | ! |
| 20:52.00 | eightyeight | i said that |
| 20:52.03 | fozzmoo | I've never seen petals on a bike before. I'll bet it's pretty. |
| 20:52.20 | eightyeight | meh |
| 20:52.24 | goozbach | peteal? |
| 20:52.36 | goozbach | pedals |
| 20:52.39 | goozbach | oops |
| 20:52.46 | eightyeight | peddle |
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| 20:53.34 | eightyeight | fighting/dancing, tomato/tomahto |
| 20:53.58 | goozbach | break dance fighting |
| 20:54.04 | goozbach | (to come full circle) |
| 20:54.48 | eightyeight | personally, i would like to see a bike where the pedals snap off as easily, and grip a slick cement surface |
| 20:56.14 | eightyeight | and how do they stay on his feet after he kicks? he's not wearing bike shoes |
| 20:57.00 | eightyeight | anyway, i thought the movie was great, except for that scene |
| 20:57.29 | goozbach | eightyeight: he's flexing his toes, they're cage-type pedals |
| 20:57.32 | goozbach | not clip-type |
| 20:57.50 | goozbach | (that's my story and I'm sticking to it) |
| 20:58.20 | goozbach | and how can you have a problem with that scene when he does a barrel roll in his car and knocks an explosive off the bottom on a crane? |
| 21:00.16 | eightyeight | ah. true |
| 21:00.22 | eightyeight | forgot about that scene |
| 21:01.00 | eightyeight | however, i'd like to see you flex your toes, do a roundhouse, and keep the pedal on your foot |
| 21:05.17 | goozbach | heck, they may just be stuck hearitly on his shoes from the force it took to break the bearings |
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| 21:05.40 | goozbach | and I'd end up on my rear-end in the second step |
| 21:39.43 | eightyeight | windicators- discuss |
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| 21:57.44 | sjansen | ~whalenuke eightyeight |
| 21:57.45 | ibot | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around eightyeight with his mind powers. |
| 22:01.23 | eightyeight | ok... |
| 22:01.37 | eightyeight | you know, there might be a windicator for that. |
| 22:02.04 | levi | Have you guys seen the mormon.org banner ad with the fake 'Chat About Faith'? |
| 22:04.35 | eightyeight | ? |
| 22:06.34 | levi | It's a standard banner ad size, has the church logo on the right above a button that says 'Join the Conversation' and then there's a chat box on the left/center that has a fake scrolling conversation, completely with txt abbreviations. |
| 22:06.45 | levi | s/completely/complete/ |
| 22:07.45 | fozzmoo | gasps |
| 22:07.48 | fozzmoo | That's awful! |
| 22:08.08 | TodPunk | I don't get it. Why do we care? |
| 22:08.41 | levi | I dunno. Maybe you don't. |
| 22:08.53 | TodPunk | I'm willing to try, if we can find a reason. |
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| 22:09.30 | levi | I was just curious if anyone else had run across it, and what they thought of it if they did. |
| 22:10.00 | eightyeight | hmm. i must me missing it. i'm not running an adblocker, and i don't see it |
| 22:10.05 | TodPunk | I have not. I thought, based on fozzmoo's reaction, that I was supposed to muster some sort of response, which the data hadn't warranted yet. |
| 22:10.12 | fozzmoo | I, for one, am glad the scrolling conversation is fake. I think it would be terrible if they were scrolling actual conversations in the ad.] |
| 22:10.26 | eightyeight | s/me/be/ |
| 22:10.54 | levi | Well, I certainly wouldn't want real private conversations scrolling live in an ad. |
| 22:11.34 | eightyeight | i don't see a single ad on the site, actually |
| 22:11.39 | eightyeight | tries IE |
| 22:11.44 | levi | What site are you looking at? |
| 22:11.53 | levi | I saw this on some random web page. |
| 22:12.01 | eightyeight | http://mormon.org/mormonorg/eng/ |
| 22:12.02 | eightyeight | oh |
| 22:12.15 | levi | It was cadillacforums.com |
| 22:12.38 | levi | But it was a google ad, I think. |
| 22:12.47 | eightyeight | i see |
| 22:13.01 | eightyeight | i misread that the ad itself was on mormon.org |
| 22:13.07 | fozzmoo | I was confused too. |
| 22:13.17 | thaddeusq | me too. |
| 22:13.22 | eightyeight | which surprised me a bit, actually, thinking all lds church sites were ad-free |
| 22:13.30 | fozzmoo | TodPunk: My 'reaction' was facetious. :) |
| 22:13.36 | thaddeusq | I run an ad blocker, so I don't see ads across the tubes |
| 22:13.51 | levi | It's advertising the church website, not advertising *on* the church website. |
| 22:14.06 | eightyeight | yeah. i understand now |
| 22:14.34 | TodPunk | fozzmoo: story of my life |
| 22:16.37 | JoshH | wonders if the church has a call center full of live chatters |
| 22:16.51 | TodPunk | they do, if I recall correctly |
| 22:16.56 | levi | I dunno, I didn't click on the button. |
| 22:17.04 | TodPunk | missionaries, specifically |
| 22:17.06 | JoshH | are they in india? |
| 22:17.07 | levi | Maybe they have the MTC kids doing taht now. |
| 22:17.29 | eightyeight | i would imagine so |
| 22:17.33 | levi | When I was in the MTC, we were pressed into call center service for the TV ads. |
| 22:17.44 | eightyeight | as was i |
| 22:17.51 | tensai | not I, ha ha! |
| 22:17.56 | JoshH | heh, that's funny |
| 22:18.51 | TodPunk | doesn't know much about the MTC |
| 22:19.55 | levi | We did outbound calls to people who had already called the 800 number in the ads to get a free video or whatever, and we asked them if they would allow missionaries to deliver it. |
| 22:20.08 | levi | I was not very fond of that. |
| 22:20.16 | unum | had to call back three times |
| 22:22.10 | eightyeight | i didn't care for it just for the fact that i was eager to get out of the mtc and into the field |
| 22:22.40 | eightyeight | i felt that the call center was wasting my time. it felt forced, and not something i opted in to do |
| 22:22.52 | levi | I just hate making phone calls. |
| 22:23.05 | levi | I also hate knocking on doors. |
| 22:23.15 | JoshH | i hate talking on phones period |
| 22:23.20 | levi | Sort of a mild social phobia thing. |
| 22:23.23 | JoshH | i hate texting too, but i always text anyone unless i absolutely need to speak |
| 22:23.29 | TodPunk | eightyeight: that's how I would probably feel about tracting in general |
| 22:23.56 | JoshH | join the chat and ask "are you forced to do this in the mtc?" |
| 22:24.15 | levi | It's not showing me the ad anymore. |
| 22:24.19 | JoshH | then say you won't convert because you disagree with the practice |
| 22:24.24 | eightyeight | it wasn't technically forced. i was free to stay in my dorm room, and study if i wished |
| 22:24.38 | eightyeight | i just had to have my companion with me, who may want to be in the call center |
| 22:24.51 | tensai | JoshH: say you won't convert because you disagree with their choice of long distance phone carrier :) |
| 22:29.25 | sjansen | http://www.microsoft.com/education/competencies/humor.mspx <-- Uhmm... wow. |
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| 22:35.27 | TodPunk | sjansen: if only a few people I knew had a competency in humor =c( |
| 22:37.03 | levi | Am I funnier than I think I am? |
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| 22:47.36 | TodPunk | Muahahahahahaha, my TCP server is now fixed to correctly accept new connections on their own thread. I am TcpListener's master! |
| 22:49.02 | fadein | http://www.microsoft.com/education/competencies/comp_valuingdiversity.mspx <-- I wonder if that applies to diversity in choice of OS, too |
| 22:50.17 | markl_ | nope, they are promoting apartheid! |
| 22:51.34 | TodPunk | My friend at MS has Ubuntu 10.04 on a vm he tests with. They're pretty supportive of it. He also writes coding utilities in Ruby. He's odd. |
| 22:56.23 | eightyeight | what would be my step-mother's nephew to me? |
| 22:56.32 | eightyeight | step-cousin? |
| 22:59.50 | goozbach | guess so |
| 23:17.10 | fadein | what's the command that tells me which terminal is the active virtual terminal? |
| 23:18.12 | fadein | fgconsole |
| 23:18.24 | fadein | I should write that down |
| 23:29.14 | sjansen | Do you mean the tty command? |