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| 01:31.56 | markl_ | bonez2046: openfiler maybe, it has a good management interface. but maybe straight ubuntu server would work |
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| 02:31.31 | fozzmoo | cd |
| 02:31.34 | fozzmoo | :) |
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| 15:07.26 | goozbach | elg: I'll give you a report on V's pizza when I get setup for the week's work |
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| 16:52.58 | rsimpkins | The PLUG server hasn't had a reboot in a year. |
| 16:53.11 | rsimpkins | I'm going to take it down for a fsck and a new kernel. |
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| 16:54.05 | fozzmoo | Scary! |
| 16:54.33 | rsimpkins | Yeah, I like to keep things updated more frequently - but it should be fine. |
| 16:54.48 | fozzmoo | :-) |
| 16:56.04 | rsimpkins | back up |
| 16:59.57 | fozzmoo | exhales |
| 17:01.42 | markl_ | why not make it a VM so you can freeze/thaw it without losing your uptime? |
| 17:02.35 | markl_ | actually i think the real term is chkpnt/restore but same thing |
| 17:06.58 | rsimpkins | markl_: very old CPU, virtualization would be suckage. |
| 17:07.04 | rsimpkins | It is already pretty freakin' slow. |
| 17:07.15 | markl_ | only if you use slow virtualization technology |
| 17:07.19 | markl_ | openvz has no overhead |
| 17:07.27 | markl_ | fastest vm technology ever |
| 17:07.38 | markl_ | don't want to evangelize too much but it rocks hard :) |
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| 17:16.17 | sjansen | Uptime ain't nothing but a number. |
| 17:16.29 | jsmith | No kidding... |
| 17:20.27 | JoshH | my uptime is pretty good |
| 17:20.35 | markl_ | true but bragging rights are still fun :) |
| 17:20.49 | markl_ | and once you get to e.g. > 1000 days it gets really hard to break |
| 17:33.31 | sjansen | Argh! |
| 17:33.48 | sjansen | It shouldn't be so freaking hard to get a good DVD burn. :-( |
| 17:34.16 | JoshH | what's hard about it? |
| 17:36.58 | sjansen | I keep getting a corrupted file. Even at the slowest speed. |
| 17:44.51 | TodPunk | sjansen: is it the encoding, or are you just burning an ISO? |
| 17:47.34 | sjansen | Ubuntu 8.04.1 DVD iso. |
| 17:48.44 | levi | Why 8.04.1? |
| 17:49.05 | JoshH | i just barely burned 10.04 |
| 17:58.22 | sjansen | Because that's the last 8.04 DVD that Ubuntu cut. |
| 17:58.35 | JoshH | why not lucid? |
| 18:00.24 | TodPunk | 10.04 LTS is out, and has a DVD |
| 18:00.48 | goozbach | maybe he's trying to do something against 8.04? |
| 18:01.04 | TodPunk | See, that's what I would have thought too, until he answered. |
| 18:01.05 | jsmith | goozbach: It's sjansen... he could be trying to walk on water! |
| 18:01.25 | TodPunk | They also have DVDs of 8.10, 9.04 and 9.10 |
| 18:01.37 | jsmith | (or does sjansen stand still and the water walks underneath him?) |
| 18:02.13 | sjansen | We don't support non-LTS releases. |
| 18:02.32 | JoshH | lucid is lts |
| 18:02.57 | sjansen | Lucid is a week old. It takes more than that to update our courseware. |
| 18:03.12 | JoshH | why so slow? |
| 18:03.20 | goozbach | sjansen: allow me |
| 18:03.26 | jsmith | JoshH: Surely you jest... |
| 18:03.30 | goozbach | ~punish JoshH |
| 18:03.31 | ibot | ACTION forces JoshH to install and use Windows |
| 18:03.40 | sjansen | ~thank goozbach |
| 18:03.40 | ibot | gern geschehen, sjansen |
| 18:04.11 | JoshH | hehe |
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| 19:48.36 | sshaw | anyone a debian packager around these parts? |
| 19:48.58 | fungus | not a pro, but I've done a few |
| 19:49.22 | sshaw | I'm stuck on what might be something stupid, but can't seem to figure it out |
| 19:50.07 | sshaw | I can run debuild successfully and sign it, but if I trying to run debuild a 2nd time it files. It seems like anything generated as a result of the patch can't be deleted |
| 19:51.56 | fungus | check the debian directory, some builds throw extra files/dirs in there. |
| 19:52.30 | sshaw | there doesn't seem to be anything extra in there |
| 19:53.16 | sshaw | for the patch I'm trying to apply it requires an autoreconf and intltools |
| 19:53.16 | sshaw | I think the stuff left over that it can't clean up might be from that |
| 19:53.19 | sshaw | I'm wondering if I have something backwards in my rules file |
| 19:55.12 | elg | sounds like something's not cleaning up properly |
| 19:55.46 | sshaw | yeah, I'm not sure. I am overriding the dh_auto_clean stuff, but I'm still running dh_auto_clean at the end |
| 19:56.18 | elg | so figure out what's not getting cleaned up |
| 19:56.40 | sshaw | elg: it seems to only be the stuff from the patch |
| 19:56.44 | elg | compare 'find /path/to/your/pkg' output before and after |
| 19:56.56 | sshaw | I can run make clean in that directory and it seems to clean everything up |
| 19:57.05 | elg | seems to being the key word |
| 19:57.12 | elg | but apparently isn't. so figure out what's lingering |
| 19:57.37 | sshaw | I have a good idea what's left, just not sure why |
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| 20:42.33 | markl_ | sjansen: why not use ubuntu-8.04.3-server-amd64.iso ? |
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| 20:44.02 | sjansen | Because none of the CDs contain all the packages I want. |
| 20:45.19 | sjansen | Requiring an Internet connection is not an option. Rolling our own iso isn't attractive. |
| 20:46.08 | markl_ | so you just mirror the ubuntu package repos? |
| 20:46.28 | markl_ | because getting 8.04.1 up to the latest must require a lot of updates |
| 20:47.17 | sjansen | Who said anything about updating? |
| 20:47.42 | markl_ | lol ok gotcha |
| 20:47.47 | sjansen | This is for classroom setup. I want a single iso with a predictable set of packages, warts and all. |
| 21:16.38 | goozbach | what are ya'lls thoughts on the automatic playlist tools which post "/me is listening to such-and-such" to twitter et all? |
| 21:19.14 | fozzmoo | goozbach: Pollution. |
| 21:21.48 | goozbach | ok |
| 21:21.53 | goozbach | just wanted to check |
| 21:22.23 | goozbach | just got flambasted on identica because I vocally un-sub'ed from an auto-poster |
| 21:22.53 | fozzmoo | that's why I quit using microblogging tools. 90+% of the posts were of no value to me. |
| 21:23.09 | goozbach | wanted to see if I was insane (although measuring against fozzmoo might be a mistake :D ) |
| 21:23.18 | fozzmoo | :) |
| 21:24.04 | goozbach | I should have just un-subbed, instead I posted a "I'm un subscribing from @person.....blah blah blah |
| 21:24.28 | goozbach | this is what happens when goozbach goes without caffiene, he gets grumpy |
| 21:25.02 | goozbach | my head hurts |
| 21:25.07 | sjansen | checks his mail |
| 21:25.18 | sjansen | checks the status of a media verify |
| 21:25.46 | sjansen | checks for new IMs |
| 21:25.51 | sjansen | checks IRC |
| 21:26.04 | sjansen | reads an email |
| 21:26.15 | goozbach | sjansen doesn't have to check his mail, his MUA automatically posts a witty reply if you're being stupid |
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| 21:59.03 | elg | sjansen's MUA doesn't have to send a witty reply if you're being stupid. The Internet sends a witty reply unconditionally on behalf of sjansen. |
| 22:02.20 | levi | This is an interesting food-for-thought site: http://www.templeton.org/bigquestions/ |
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| 23:12.59 | rsimpkins | levi: That seems like a very confusing list of opinions. Yes, No, Maybe, Yes and No, Perhaps, Sorta, Kinda. |
| 23:29.10 | TodPunk | I have an answer to every one of those: |
| 23:29.41 | TodPunk | There's not enough data to prove much of anything, we're all making huge assumptions for a working model. Find one that fits your needs, run with it, keep an open mind about it. We'll all be fine. |
| 23:34.09 | rsimpkins | TodPunk: We have ample proof that sjansen is awesome, so I'm not sure what you're talking about. |