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| 02:01.27 | levi | Yo. |
| 02:03.29 | TodPunk | http://provo.craigslist.org/tch/1691751653.html This just makes me laugh and cry at the same time. |
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| 02:24.00 | jsmith | HRML, huh? |
| 02:24.17 | jsmith | "Human Resources Markup Language"? |
| 02:24.34 | jsmith | would love to mark up a few HR folks |
| 02:33.01 | TodPunk | I'm pretty sure he means HTML |
| 02:33.10 | jsmith | Yeah, I know |
| 02:33.10 | TodPunk | and PHP, somwhere in there |
| 02:33.16 | jsmith | I'm just being silly |
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| 02:50.22 | fozzmoo | You get the spelling you pay for. |
| 02:50.35 | fozzmoo | points to the generous compensation package referenced. |
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| 03:37.49 | TodPunk | fozzmoo: yeah, I actually emailed the guy saying his post was rather ill-informed, and sat between two much higher-paying and lower qualificationed job postings. |
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| 04:22.59 | fozzmoo | Huh. My cousin is on KTKK right now. |
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| 13:26.41 | jsmith | RHEL6 beta out today, and available to all (not just RHN subscribers!) |
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| 13:35.36 | cedwards | sweet |
| 13:51.45 | markl_ | Fox News is the lupus of news |
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| 14:23.47 | goozbach | nice! rhel6!!! |
| 14:24.11 | jsmith | goozbach: Yeah... downloading it now! |
| 14:24.25 | jsmith | wishes the tubes weren't so clogged |
| 14:27.28 | goozbach | wanna put up a torrent |
| 14:28.33 | jsmith | goozbach: Can't from here... but... hmmmmn.... |
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| 14:41.55 | macnewbold | wow, impressive video: http://digg.com/d31P4H0 |
| 14:42.03 | macnewbold | please digg it if you feel the urge |
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| 15:14.14 | sjansen | Hip hip hooray! |
| 15:14.21 | sjansen | http://www.karan.org/blog/index.php/2010/04/21/rhel-6-is-now-in-public-beta |
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| 15:22.36 | jsmith | sjansen: You're only two hours behind on that... |
| 15:22.52 | sjansen | ~fart jsmith |
| 15:22.53 | ibot | ACTION farts in jsmith's general direction |
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| 16:17.05 | *** topic/#utah by sjansen -> logs @ http://ibot.rikers.org/#utah | <ibot> I for one welcome our new RHEL6 overlords. |
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| 17:00.20 | emcnabb | sjansen, I hurried the beta out, just for you |
| 17:00.28 | emcnabb | because you're so "special" |
| 17:00.47 | fozzmoo | emcnabb: When's RHEL6 going gold? |
| 17:01.01 | emcnabb | fozzmoo, when the time is right |
| 17:01.06 | fozzmoo | heh. |
| 17:01.23 | emcnabb | if I told you I wouldn't work here much longer :-) |
| 17:02.19 | sjansen | Based on past betas, probably inside of a couple months. |
| 17:16.50 | neybar | does anyone know how/if you can find out what files have changed from the svn server to a sandbox with out bring down those changes? |
| 17:35.08 | sjansen | And there's the answer. RHEL6 only has Xen domU support, not dom0. |
| 17:39.00 | goozbach | sjansen: no dom0 support? |
| 17:39.03 | goozbach | WTF? |
| 17:39.16 | goozbach | they want you to buy RHEV I take it |
| 17:39.18 | goozbach | ? |
| 17:40.08 | sjansen | They want you to use KVM. Or use the roughly 5 years of remaining RHEL5 support. |
| 17:41.12 | sjansen | Of course, I'm sure they wouldn't mind you buying RHEV, but I suspect they won't really push it hard until they finish the move from Windows/.Net to RHEL/Java. |
| 17:44.49 | elg | eightyeight: is oauth 2.0 like unto openid? |
| 17:44.56 | elg | isn't up on the shared auth protocols |
| 17:46.51 | emcnabb | goozbach, Xen is dead. Long live KVM. |
| 17:47.57 | goozbach | emcnabb: I don't disagree, but.... |
| 17:51.34 | sjansen | Wow. A whole slew of system-config-* are being removed without replacement. |
| 18:00.46 | sjansen | Yee haw! Postfix is the new preferred MTA in RHEL6! |
| 18:01.00 | sjansen | Suck on that Sendmail! |
| 18:01.58 | jsmith | sjansen: Amen, brother! |
| 18:03.13 | goozbach | moving to cronie? |
| 18:03.15 | goozbach | why? |
| 18:03.28 | emcnabb | sjansen, jsmith but I love sendmail m4 macro files! |
| 18:04.44 | Supaplex | removes the shift keys from emcnabb's keyboard |
| 18:04.54 | Supaplex | there you go. that should make m4 more interesting. |
| 18:05.04 | emcnabb | noooo!!! |
| 18:05.22 | Supaplex | you can't !!! w/o shift. :) |
| 18:05.24 | emcnabb | dnl dnl dnl dnl dnl |
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| 18:12.12 | sjansen | Looks like vixie-cron is unmaintained. |
| 18:12.42 | sjansen | https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/344 |
| 18:16.28 | goozbach | that explains it |
| 18:16.30 | goozbach | forked... |
| 18:36.49 | markl_ | fun |
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| 19:09.25 | markl_ | does Xmission have an IRC server still? |
| 19:09.55 | markl_ | that was the coolest feature ever |
| 19:39.15 | pashdown | markl |
| 19:39.23 | pashdown | irc.xmission.com |
| 19:43.08 | ljenkins | pashdown: can I connect via ipv6 to irc.xmission.com yet? |
| 19:45.57 | pashdown | i don't think it is on ipv6 yet. mirrors.xmission.com is. |
| 19:47.05 | goozbach | pashdown: you mirroring the rhel6 beta? :) |
| 19:50.19 | ljenkins | pashdown: ahh bummer. cool that you've got the mirrors server up and running on v6 though |
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| 19:59.22 | markl_ | ah ok i was trying chat.xmission.com, thanks. my spam assassin seems to dislike some of the |
| 19:59.34 | markl_ | hosts like out02.mta.xmission.com |
| 20:00.43 | fozzmoo | pashdown: When is my DSL connection going to be IPv6? :) |
| 20:01.00 | pashdown | when your cpe is |
| 20:01.34 | pashdown | markl msg ram or trane about that |
| 20:01.36 | markl_ | and terabit full duplex |
| 20:01.41 | markl_ | ok ty |
| 20:02.00 | pashdown | terabit: when my house is |
| 20:02.09 | markl_ | looks like mainly the openwhois blacklist |
| 20:02.30 | pashdown | ill mention it too |
| 20:02.57 | bonez2046 | pashdown: I am still trying to figure out Net Neutrality.. Dare I ask where you/xmission stands on it? Just curious. |
| 20:03.39 | markl_ | ok actually it looks like open whois is dead, so i need to stop trying to check it |
| 20:04.23 | fozzmoo | wonders if he flash his Cisco 678 with IPv6 firmware. ;-) |
| 20:05.02 | markl_ | the smithsonian should have some instructions on that |
| 20:05.11 | fozzmoo | markl_: heh. |
| 20:05.26 | pashdown | bonez http://pashdown.org/journal/index.php?s=neutrality |
| 20:06.02 | fozzmoo | pashdown: Did you see my lil' write up on net-neutrality? |
| 20:06.10 | pashdown | of course now that the fcc has been neutered by the supreme court, i think their teeth need to be restored |
| 20:06.16 | pashdown | no fozz, link? |
| 20:06.28 | fozzmoo | http://fozzolog.fozzilinymoo.org/politics/2010/04/the-deal-with-net-neutrality.html |
| 20:07.07 | fozzmoo | I was really writing in response to all the political name-calling on a PLUG list thread about it. |
| 20:07.39 | fozzmoo | It all started with Glenn Beck saying Net Neutrality was "Marxist." |
| 20:07.45 | fozzmoo | But he actually didn't say that... |
| 20:08.06 | fozzmoo | he said that an organization pushing Net Neutrality is Marxist. |
| 20:08.17 | sjansen | pashdown: Careful, fozzmoo is a Marxist. He might try to eat your children. |
| 20:08.17 | fozzmoo | But nobody looks past the first layer of onions anymore. :) |
| 20:08.33 | fozzmoo | sjansen: Shut up you social libertarian. |
| 20:08.46 | sjansen | ~silence fozzmoo |
| 20:08.47 | ibot | ACTION shoves an apple in fozzmoo's mouth, shoves a spit through ... well, uhm, anyway ... then builds a nice fire and starts roasting |
| 20:08.51 | sjansen | ~win |
| 20:08.52 | ibot | i guess win is <NightHawkTheSane> my phone autocorrects "pfft" to "orgy" |
| 20:09.08 | fozzmoo | blinks |
| 20:09.15 | sjansen | Well that's a new one... |
| 20:09.30 | pashdown | fozz, i agree with your post. one correction - nsf was handed over in 1994 |
| 20:09.47 | fozzmoo | My understanding was that they STARTED to hand it over in 1994... |
| 20:09.51 | fozzmoo | but they weren't finished until 1998. |
| 20:10.20 | pashdown | ok |
| 20:11.08 | fozzmoo | Ahhh. The good old daze. |
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| 20:11.33 | fozzmoo | When you could just paste in "xxhxhxhxjjxjxhxhxjxhxjhxhjxhjxhjxjhxjhxNO CARRIER" when you didn't want to talk to someone anymore |
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| 20:33.05 | sjansen | If you have spare disk space and time, Ubuntu urgently needs your help in the next 24 hours. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2010-April/030673.html |
| 20:35.42 | pashdown | glx leak? |
| 20:35.46 | pashdown | is that the right page? |
| 20:44.15 | sjansen | yup |
| 20:48.59 | JoshH | has some disk space but no time |
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| 21:37.22 | Gate | sjansen: how much time do you figure is needed for someone to assist in this testing spree? |
| 21:41.14 | sjansen | If you're not already running the 10.04 test release, you'll need to download the beta install disks and that'll depend on your internet connection. The actuall install'll probably take about 45 minutes to do a fresh install and add the PPA packages. After that, you'll need to use the system like you normally would and see if it slows down after using it for several hours. |
| 21:44.20 | Sargun | Anyone looking for a job in the SF Bay (San Jose) 25% netadmin, 75% sysadmin? |
| 21:45.25 | jsmith | Anyone looking for a (programming) job in Toelle? |
| 21:45.31 | jsmith | spelled that wrong, didn't he |
| 21:45.49 | goozbach | toole |
| 21:45.52 | goozbach | toolee |
| 21:45.56 | goozbach | tooleee |
| 21:46.00 | goozbach | gtooooooolleleee |
| 21:46.05 | goozbach | elle |
| 21:46.10 | goozbach | leeleeleeooo |
| 21:46.16 | jsmith | goozbach: My point exactly |
| 21:46.18 | tensai | it's spelled "barren wasteland" |
| 21:46.34 | jsmith | tensai: It's spelled "better than Magna, but further away" |
| 21:48.05 | JoshH | i wouldn't even say better than magna |
| 21:48.26 | goozbach | magna's not bad |
| 21:48.43 | goozbach | you can get 100% of your RDA of vitiamns and minerals from the tap water! |
| 21:48.50 | JoshH | it is bad |
| 21:48.57 | JoshH | but just about everywhere besides slc is |
| 21:49.17 | JoshH | and even slc is |
| 21:52.39 | jsmith | I spent a week in Magna one night... |
| 21:52.43 | jsmith | ducks |
| 21:53.06 | eightyeight | elg: i'm only familiar with google's oauth |
| 21:53.32 | eightyeight | elg: afaix, they pretty much do the same thing. although openid is prone to phishing attacks, where i guess oauth isn't? |
| 21:54.06 | eightyeight | elg: my big gribe is everyone and ther own 'sso' service: openid, oauth, facebook connect, twitter, etc, etc, etc |
| 21:54.09 | eightyeight | getting a bit old |
| 21:54.25 | elg | fb announced today OAuth 2.0 |
| 21:55.32 | eightyeight | hmmm |
| 21:56.00 | Gate | sjansen: one of my machines is already on 10.04, thanks for the heads yp |
| 21:56.06 | Gate | s/yp/up |
| 21:56.15 | eightyeight | what does oauth 2.0 have that its predecessor didn't? |
| 21:56.49 | elg | i'd never heard of oauth. though I figured it was like openid |
| 21:57.14 | eightyeight | http://cakebaker.42dh.com/2008/04/01/openid-versus-oauth-from-the-users-perspective/ |
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| 22:36.00 | bonez2046 | blist |
| 22:36.03 | bonez2046 | oops |
| 22:36.45 | eightyeight | heh |
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| 23:40.06 | TodPunk | jsmith-away: depends on the development. What be it? =cP |
| 23:40.46 | TodPunk | had this AWESOME interview with DSG Solutions today where they expected someone to come in with expertise in PHP, Asterisk, and ASP.NET/C#, all for the low, low price of 35k/yr |
| 23:41.24 | TodPunk | I am just SO excited for such an opportunity to work well below what I could get for front line tech support, let me tell you! |
| 23:41.26 | TodPunk | </sarcasm> |
| 23:42.22 | ksaisjja | ouch |
| 23:42.49 | ljenkins | In these tough economic times filled with uncertenty and woe, it is amazing what you can get people to work for |
| 23:43.05 | ljenkins | but yeah, that is hilarious |
| 23:43.19 | TodPunk | I find that you get what you pay for in these kinds of skilled labour positions. =cP |
| 23:43.30 | TodPunk | It's no wonder that he was complaining that the last two people he hired were lazy |
| 23:43.37 | ljenkins | or you luck out and get a 20 year old who doesn't know better ;) |
| 23:43.38 | ksaisjja | yeah no kidding |
| 23:44.32 | ksaisjja | For $35k I'd say pick one. lol |
| 23:45.33 | TodPunk | It took a lot of control to not laugh at the guy's incompetence |
| 23:45.40 | TodPunk | he's also a TOTAL Microsoft fanboy |
| 23:46.23 | TodPunk | I have literally nothing wrong with Microsoft products. I use whatever OS fits the bill for what I think needs to be done. This guy said he hates open source because you can't get proper support for it. |
| 23:46.32 | TodPunk | I could have strangled him for his incompetence. |
| 23:47.36 | TodPunk | goes and does something productive again |