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| 01:35.41 | cjohnston | eightyeight: do you have a moment for a PM? |
| 01:41.25 | eightyeight | cjohnston: sure |
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| 02:23.58 | eightyeight | so, i thought i'd give tmux a spin |
| 02:24.14 | eightyeight | overall, i was impressed. except for one show stopper |
| 02:24.27 | eightyeight | it doesn't support serial connections like gnu screen does |
| 02:24.43 | eightyeight | according to the developer, this is "bloat" |
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| 14:44.21 | Migs | http://economicedge.blogspot.com/2010/03/most-important-chart-of-century.html |
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| 15:09.31 | Migs | http://live.lmgtfy.com/ |
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| 15:14.04 | elg | is michael golden here? |
| 15:14.22 | elg | or does he hang out here? know his irc nick? |
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| 15:21.17 | elg | it's a matter of life and spam people |
| 15:28.07 | tvc123 | has no idea |
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| 16:12.42 | elg | listens to "She Blinded Me with Science" but feels like "She Blinded Me with Pollen" |
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| 16:38.51 | levi | So, what typicall goes on in a precinct caucus meeting? |
| 16:40.56 | elg | caucusing |
| 16:41.02 | elg | i 'spect |
| 16:42.13 | levi | Well, that's not very helpful. :) |
| 16:42.36 | elg | but it is tautological! |
| 16:43.11 | levi | Precisely why it's not helpful. |
| 16:45.07 | elg | the other day i saw something claiming to be the opposite of git add -p, e.g. unstage or revert just part of a diff |
| 16:45.25 | elg | now i can't find it in the manpages for git-revert or git-reset |
| 16:45.33 | elg | anyone have an idea what it might have been? |
| 16:45.57 | levi | Man, distributed version control would be so helpful to me right now. |
| 16:46.36 | elg | ah. it is git reset -p |
| 16:46.36 | elg | http://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-reset.html |
| 16:46.43 | elg | maybe my version of git doesn't have it. |
| 16:47.09 | levi | I need to keep track of several local debugging-related sets of changes to some remote code that are not at all useful upstream. |
| 16:47.19 | levi | And are mutually incompatible. |
| 16:47.37 | elg | what do they use? svn? |
| 16:47.41 | elg | sccs? :) |
| 16:47.42 | levi | Perforce |
| 16:48.11 | elg | isn't there a git perforce proxy? |
| 16:48.16 | levi | Which is a pretty good fit considering the huge amount of binary data that gets stored. |
| 16:48.30 | levi | There was at some point. |
| 16:48.31 | elg | git-p4 or something |
| 16:48.57 | elg | (and with that we reach the limit of my knowledge of git+perforce, and for that matter perforce in general) |
| 16:49.48 | levi | Perforce is not terrible, and has some good features, but it lacks any sort of local branching facilities. |
| 16:56.05 | levi | Hmm, let's see if there's a decent way to get git and perforce to play together on Windows. |
| 16:56.24 | levi | (the compiler for this project only runs in Windows) |
| 16:57.26 | elg | i suppose it all depends on your definition of decent. :) |
| 16:58.53 | levi | I can probably just stick the same source tree in both git and perforce, and deal with them separately instead of trying to do it all with git. |
| 16:59.29 | elg | that sounds far too pragmatic. purity or death! |
| 16:59.47 | levi | Mostly I want a bunch of local branches that I can switch between and distribute patches between. |
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| 17:14.52 | tensai | why would php work for one virtual host, but not for another? |
| 17:15.17 | toofer | not installed on the other? |
| 17:15.44 | tensai | the configs look identical to me |
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| 17:17.38 | tensai | I created a simple test.php, just containing html, no php. same problem. I think it's a mime-type problem. |
| 17:18.15 | tensai | ah, I see one difference. the one that's working is ssl. so the fix could be buried in this ssl config. |
| 17:21.23 | elg | so insanity got the better of me yesterday and I took out the alternator |
| 17:22.56 | elg | easier than I remember but more difficult than it should have been due to (a) my hands are too big, (b) everything was caked in oil (I have oil leaks), and (c) I don't have a socket set that's magically the right depth (neither too deep nor too shallow) |
| 17:23.44 | elg | and while still gripped in the insanity, I decided to see if I could give it a new lease on life by checking and maybe replacing the brushes |
| 17:23.51 | elg | but a stripped screw stopped that one short |
| 17:27.24 | sjansen | http://justjared.buzznet.com/2010/03/23/sarah-pain-headed-to-discovery-networks/ |
| 17:27.50 | elg | does this mean politically she's riding off into the (great north)west? |
| 17:28.44 | sjansen | I believe its the first sign that the Discovery channel has jumped the shark and will soon be replacing Dirty Jobs with a Hannah Montana reality show. |
| 17:29.13 | levi | elg: You could always drill the stripped screw out. |
| 17:29.29 | levi | I've had to do that a few times lately. |
| 17:29.36 | elg | how do you do that? |
| 17:30.20 | elg | sjansen: dsc jumped the shark awhile ago with these fishing reality shows |
| 17:30.22 | sjansen | elg: Stop by a hardware store and ask for "stump remover". |
| 17:30.25 | levi | You get a corded drill, a strong drill bit, and center it on the screw. If it's a big screw, you can start with a smaller bit and work up. |
| 17:30.32 | elg | ~splode sjansen |
| 17:31.01 | elg | doesn't that ruin the bit? |
| 17:31.04 | levi | There are also screw extractors that come with a drill bit and a reverse bit that grabs the smooth area made by the drill bit and unscrews it. |
| 17:31.16 | levi | Get a bit that's made for drilling metal. |
| 17:31.29 | levi | If you stripped the screw, it's clearly not very hard metal. |
| 17:31.33 | redbeard_work | elg: look for a grab-it at the hardware store. they're designed for extracting screws like this. |
| 17:31.48 | levi | You can get them at auto parts stores, too. |
| 17:31.53 | elg | hmm. maybe a drill and one of those screw remover thingies would cost less than an alternator |
| 17:32.16 | levi | In fact, I've seen better sets at auto parts stores than at Lowes-type stores. |
| 17:32.18 | elg | and be more generally useful. of course, it could be that the brushes aren't the problem. |
| 17:32.30 | tensai | elg: dab a little c4 on the screw head and stand back |
| 17:32.39 | levi | A drill and screw removers are generally useful to have around, though. |
| 17:32.48 | elg | tensai: that would be satisfying but then I wouldn't get to trade it in for a core discount |
| 17:33.44 | levi | If you can't get it out with an extractor, you can get a heli-coil at an auto parts store along with a tap & die set. That starts to get expensive, though. |
| 17:34.05 | elg | the battery light never came on, I think it means the sensor is bad, and I think the sensor may be in the alternator itself |
| 17:34.09 | levi | If you have a Harbor Freight locally, that helps out with the tool cost tremendously. :) |
| 17:34.24 | elg | a who? |
| 17:34.48 | levi | Harbor Freight is a store that sells cheap Chinese import tools. |
| 17:35.13 | levi | The drill I have from there works great. Some of it is crap, though. |
| 17:35.38 | levi | Great for occasional-use tools, though. |
| 17:35.50 | levi | My tap & die set from HF was ~$10. |
| 17:36.08 | levi | In case you haven't heard of them, they're tools for making screw threads. |
| 17:36.30 | levi | Once you have one, if you ever cross-thread something and destroy the threads, you can fix it. |
| 17:36.43 | levi | Very handy to have. |
| 17:41.11 | levi | Looks like there are some Harbor Freight stores within driving distance of you. |
| 17:41.53 | levi | In the Fremont area. |
| 17:44.30 | sjansen | So all elg needs to do is fix is car so that he can drive to the store to buy the parts to fix his car. |
| 17:44.59 | sjansen | senses the outline of an epic drama and hopes that Peter Jackson will direct it |
| 17:45.10 | elg | I have pioneer stock. I will walk barefoot in the snow with an ox for company |
| 17:45.54 | elg | I also have viking stock. Maybe I'll just get a boat and sail across the corner of the bay and burn and pillage fremont. |
| 17:45.57 | sjansen | Of course by that I mean LoTR Peter Jackson, not King Kong Peter Jackson. |
| 17:47.24 | elg | sjansen: you can play a hobbit in my epic |
| 17:47.36 | sjansen | holds out for dwarf |
| 17:47.55 | elg | alright, you can be a dwarf, but on the condition that emcnabb is an elf. |
| 17:48.12 | sjansen | Sounds about right to me. |
| 17:48.51 | emcnabb | elg, stop making fun of my ears |
| 17:49.04 | elg | ~mock emcnabb |
| 17:49.05 | ibot | ACTION pulls emcnabb's pants down and shows the world emcnabb's pink spotted underwear |
| 17:49.42 | emcnabb | ~whaleslap elg |
| 17:49.43 | ibot | ACTION beats elg upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 18:10.30 | Migs | http://hamptonroads.com/2010/03/minutes-after-signing-13-states-sue-over-health-law |
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| 18:56.55 | sjansen | ~lart whitespace |
| 18:56.55 | ibot | teaches whitespace the basics, including how to RTM |
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| 18:57.46 | redbeard_work | sjansen: http://www.emacswiki.org/pics/static/TabsSpacesBoth.png |
| 19:20.22 | levi | redbeard_work: Awesome. :) |
| 19:33.04 | levi | New home for Jayce^: http://www.survivalrealty.com/2010/03/kayenta-bunker.html |
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| 20:10.16 | elg | we could have a house-painting party, where everyone shows up with paintball guns and decorates the outside. |
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| 20:10.40 | goozbach | ohh |
| 20:11.07 | elg | "Step outside the front door and you can fire a pistol, throw knives, strip naked, whatever!" |
| 20:11.10 | elg | Don't invite harleypig |
| 20:11.46 | goozbach | mtbms should have a picture of all of those at once |
| 20:12.06 | unum | they only have an acre and it looks pretty desolate, I wonder how they get their food |
| 20:12.45 | goozbach | unum: hunting |
| 20:13.19 | unum | all sort of wild cows on blm land :) |
| 20:13.36 | goozbach | deers |
| 20:19.40 | unum | I thought deer liked forrest |
| 20:20.24 | Gate | hey, thats down the road from here |
| 20:20.49 | Gate | well, OK, maybe an 90 minutes or more, but relatively speaking close |
| 20:24.19 | Gate | gah, my scale was off |
| 20:25.17 | Gate | way off |
| 20:25.31 | Gate | is suddenly confused by distances |
| 20:26.12 | elg | ~convert gate furlong |
| 20:26.34 | elg | ~convert 800 miles to cm |
| 20:27.45 | fungus | ~convert 1.28748e+08 cm to miles |
| 20:29.46 | elg | ~convert 0.003 miles to cm |
| 20:36.28 | Gate | elg, its 256 miles |
| 20:36.51 | Gate | what confused me is the fact there is a "kayenta" community MUCH closer to Saint George than that |
| 20:37.08 | Gate | as in 10 minutes outside of town. |
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| 20:49.31 | harleypig | elg: You don't want to see me firing a pistol naked? |
| 20:50.17 | elg | especially not when it involves wild cows |
| 20:51.08 | harleypig | ... |
| 20:51.47 | harleypig | wonders if shrooms grown off wild cow dung are any more psychedelic than than of domestic cow dung |
| 20:54.36 | redbeard_work | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:54.36 | ibot | pours hot grits down the front of harleypig's pants |
| 20:54.45 | harleypig | giggles |
| 20:55.04 | redbeard_work | ew |
| 20:55.17 | harleypig | grabs some butter |
| 21:00.03 | Gate | wow, this channel just reached a whole new level of disturbing. |
| 21:00.20 | harleypig | Gate: naw ... not yet |
| 21:00.27 | harleypig | I have not yet begun to plumb the deptsh. |
| 21:00.32 | harleypig | s/sh/hs/ |
| 21:00.48 | harleypig | I've dragged this channel further down before. |
| 21:08.41 | sjansen | hands Gate his ration of steel wool |
| 21:09.05 | sjansen | explains it's for the eyes in the event of a harleypig overdose |
| 21:15.32 | harleypig | Don't forget the bleach |
| 21:15.43 | harleypig | and the hydrochloric acid is over there. |
| 21:15.45 | Gate | blowtorch? |
| 21:15.51 | Gate | haha |
| 21:16.18 | harleypig | wonders if Gate knows about the jockstrap on the diving board ... |
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| 21:17.25 | Gate | I'm sorry, my client appears to have heard something so traumatic that it closed this window ;) |
| 21:17.34 | harleypig | :D |
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| 22:50.50 | TodPunk | IT CANNOT BE UNSEEN!!!! |
| 22:50.58 | TodPunk | or something |
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