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| 03:09.24 | tensai | elg: pong ping |
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| 04:12.45 | bonez2046 | I can't seem to ssh to my machine.. from other machines locally or remotely.. and yet 'ps ax | grep sshd' shows sshd is running.. Why can't I connect? |
| 04:13.14 | toofer | what error is reported when you try to connect? |
| 04:13.58 | bonez2046 | it responds with.. no network connection.. |
| 04:14.19 | bonez2046 | and yet, I am connect to the net.. I have a Mailman server running and can access IT from the web.. remotely |
| 04:14.28 | toofer | uh... so are you able to ping out to the IP you're trying to connect to? |
| 04:14.29 | bonez2046 | and i have port 22 forwarded to my server... |
| 04:15.04 | bonez2046 | I didn't try pinging.. the domain though is 'fyrenice.com' can you ping it and see what it gives? |
| 04:15.35 | toofer | domain pingable |
| 04:16.31 | toofer | so you're trying to ssh with something like this: ssh user@fyrenice.com ? |
| 04:16.56 | toofer | If you're forwarding the port somehow then something may be wrong with how you're forwarding the port. |
| 04:17.17 | toofer | I'm trying to ssh to it right now and am getting no response back from your servers. |
| 04:17.24 | toofer | s/servers/server |
| 04:24.25 | bonez2046 | yes, exactly, how I attempted to ssh in |
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| 04:37.33 | bonez2046 | toofer: so, I am betting you'll get a ping now, that the forwarded port is actually forwarding to my machine correctly |
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| 04:39.42 | toofer | yeah, i get response now. |
| 04:40.13 | toofer | wtg |
| 04:42.50 | bonez2046 | ok.. thanks |
| 04:42.57 | bonez2046 | just took a nudge from you |
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| 15:40.19 | eggyknap | anyone got Windows XP installation media they're willing to part with for free/cheap? |
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| 16:10.26 | fadein | k |
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| 16:22.12 | Jayce^ | tensai: "nothing on my MythTV was not recording" |
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| 16:23.17 | tensai | Jayce^: I know. I saw that this morning. *stupid* *stupid* *stupid* |
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| 16:25.22 | Jayce^ | if you weren't so far away, I'd let you borrow my homerun... it's just sitting atm |
| 16:31.42 | RyanE | I need to get me an HDHomerun. Comcast is threatening to go all digital, and I don't have any digital tuners ATM |
| 16:31.50 | RyanE | other than on my new-ish TV |
| 16:34.24 | Gate | eggyknap: sure, if you want x86_64 |
| 16:34.46 | eggyknap | Gate: Sorry, should have specified... 32bit. |
| 16:34.50 | Gate | eggyknap: comes with the key, too ;) |
| 16:35.00 | Gate | yeah, I am down to my last, precious copy |
| 16:35.43 | Gate | meanwhile, my network gets more linux distros on it :D |
| 16:36.15 | eggyknap | I've tried everything I know to convince $wife's school stuff to work on linux, only to #FAIL. |
| 16:36.35 | eggyknap | And the one Windows computer we have came to us without installation media, but with a bad case of epic slow. |
| 16:37.01 | Gate | eggyknap: if you have the key, you have to get the right *kind* of media |
| 16:37.20 | Gate | so are you looking for a copy of windows, or just the disks? |
| 16:38.04 | eggyknap | wants to reinstall from scratch, so ideally whatever is necessary to reinstall. Having not installed XP in years, I can't claim to know precisely what that takes these days. |
| 16:38.05 | Gate | for instance, a preinstalled laptop will generally only work with a OEM key, a pro copy will only work with a pro key |
| 16:38.39 | Gate | eggyknap: I take it their reinstall partition has the bloatware? |
| 16:39.06 | Gate | and you have tried wine? |
| 16:39.28 | eggyknap | Actually, that's a good point... perhaps I can make use of their reinstall partition. I don't have whatever discs the manufacturer shipped to make use of the partition, though. |
| 16:39.33 | eggyknap | And yes, I've tried wine. |
| 16:40.51 | RyanE | Some of the newer ones don't require a disk, you just choose a restore option on boot, and after confirmation, it'll restore it back to whatever it was on initial install. |
| 16:41.30 | eggyknap | I doubt this qualifies as a "newer one". It might charitably be called "non-prehistoric" |
| 16:42.25 | RyanE | heh |
| 16:42.31 | RyanE | a little crusty, eh? |
| 16:42.57 | eggyknap | Yeah, really. |
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| 17:08.57 | Gate | eggyknap: yeah, most laptops don't seem to ship with disks anymore..... jerks..... |
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| 17:31.24 | tensai | my wife's laptop shipped with an ubuntu disk |
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| 17:53.03 | Migs | rm -f -r doesn't follow symlinks, does it? |
| 17:57.36 | Migs | nm |
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| 18:21.57 | fozzmoo | My laptop shipped with a FreeDOS disk. :) |
| 18:29.23 | maquis | anyone here know of a way to open a .pub file on linux? |
| 18:29.47 | maquis | i just tried scribus, since that's supposed to be the closest equivalent to m$ publisher, but it doesn't seem to be able to see it |
| 18:31.11 | fozzmoo | http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/22/habey-intros-fanless-noiseless-atom-z510-based-bis-6620-mini-pc/ |
| 18:31.22 | fozzmoo | there's your totally-quiet HD MythTV frontend. |
| 18:33.48 | RyanE | be nice if it had an VDPAU-compatible Nvidia chipset in there as well... |
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| 18:35.53 | fozzmoo | Or a DVI or HDMI out. |
| 18:36.04 | RyanE | OK, it says it's full hardware decode of H.264, MPEG2, VC1, and WMV9 up to 1080p, so maybe it does support VDPAU or something like it, if there's Linux support for it. |
| 18:36.12 | RyanE | yeah, that'd be nice as well. |
| 18:36.48 | RyanE | They have a DVI-D output, so that should be compatible with HDMI |
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| 18:42.00 | tensai | fozzmoo: sounds like they've switched to only sending disks with good operating systems :) |
| 18:50.51 | fozzmoo | http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/22/the-bloom-box-a-power-plant-for-the-home-video/ |
| 18:50.51 | fozzmoo | That's big news right there. |
| 18:50.51 | fozzmoo | Too bad I never watch 60 Minutes or I would have known last night. |
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| 19:05.57 | elg | ~lart sjansen |
| 19:05.57 | ibot | chops sjansen in half with a free AOL CD |
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| 19:27.56 | nfuhrima | I'm trying to register on the plug website but captcha isn't working. is it known broken or is it on my end? |
| 19:28.43 | nfuhrima | using fedora 12 and both konqueror and firefox. |
| 19:29.00 | fozzmoo | rsimpkins is the one who you should direct your questions to. |
| 19:29.11 | nfuhrima | thanks |
| 19:29.19 | fozzmoo | Kudos on the Fedora choice. :) |
| 19:31.09 | nfuhrima | well I've been using fedora since it was redhat 7 :-) |
| 19:31.33 | fozzmoo | nfuhrima: Me too, since before that. |
| 19:32.14 | fozzmoo | ~love Fedora |
| 19:32.15 | ibot | If you love Fedora so much, why don't you marry it? (oooooh) |
| 19:32.26 | fozzmoo | ~cheer Fedora |
| 19:32.27 | ibot | ACTION cheers Fedora on |
| 19:33.29 | nfuhrima | having fun with the bot? ;-) |
| 19:34.09 | fozzmoo | oh yeah. |
| 19:34.20 | fozzmoo | More people should be here after lunch. :) |
| 19:39.55 | sjansen | ~pie fozzmoo |
| 19:39.55 | ibot | ACTION hits fozzmoo in the face with a cream pie |
| 19:58.30 | sjansen | http://reason.com/blog/2010/02/20/lower-pervian-school-district |
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| 20:13.06 | sjansen | http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/features/article.php/12297_3866316_2/Bruce-Perens-Inside-Open-Sources-Historic-Victory.htm |
| 20:33.13 | tristanbob__ | http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/22/the-bloom-box-a-power-plant-for-the-home-video/ |
| 20:39.59 | tristanbob__ | has google added some cool features today? side-wiki, trends by default? |
| 20:41.50 | Migs | nope..still on about google buzz |
| 20:42.02 | Migs | since we all know we were craving another status updater |
| 20:50.51 | Gate | starts mumbling about damned social networking |
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| 21:10.15 | sjansen | ~language Gate |
| 21:10.16 | ibot | ACTION grabs Gate by the ear and washes Gate's mouth out with soap |
| 21:10.29 | sjansen | We try to keep it PG around here, unless we're discussing Nancy Grace. |
| 21:11.27 | tensai | in which case we keep it NG? |
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| 21:13.55 | sjansen | In which case Godwin's law generally kills the conversation after a couple sentences. |
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| 21:34.28 | Gate | ok, Hitler. |
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| 21:43.59 | JoshH | damn is a PG word |
| 21:44.06 | JoshH | if not G |
| 21:44.19 | JoshH | and if you say darn or dang, you're thinking damn anyway |
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| 21:48.06 | tensai | oh fiddlesticks! |
| 21:49.31 | Gate | oh for frack's sake..... |
| 22:02.01 | *** topic/#utah by sjansen -> logs @ http://ibot.rikers.org/#utah | Freenode supports SSL: http://is.gd/7olFR | OALUG meeting, 2/23 7:00PM - Technique for managing your source code. |
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| 22:06.13 | fozzmoo | Fetch. |
| 22:19.11 | Gate | Today I see if there really are things I won't do for my job. |
| 22:20.11 | RyanE | *that* doesn't sound good. |
| 22:21.15 | Gate | Its not. I might have to..... <bile> sign up for twitter </bile> |
| 22:21.41 | fozzmoo | Gate: Hah hah. twitterphobe. |
| 22:21.57 | Gate | its not a phobia, its a pure, deep disgust |
| 22:23.43 | JoshH | i'm the same way |
| 22:24.44 | Gate | let me put it this way. I had to sit through a family/lower court for a few hours. Out of the 15 cases I heard argued, over half used twitter, facebook or the ilk posts as evidence |
| 22:24.50 | tensai | JoshH: purely and deeply disgusting? |
| 22:25.21 | RyanE | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:25.36 | Gate | heh |
| 22:26.31 | JoshH | i hate how companies like pepsi are using facebook now too, instead of just using their own sites |
| 22:26.32 | Gate | I can see uses for twitter that don't inspire seething distaste in my mind, but since 90% of its uses do, I won't use/look/interact with the site |
| 22:27.06 | Gate | JoshH: exactly. And one of those companies is why I might need to get a twitter account for testing. |
| 22:27.30 | JoshH | myspace is what first turned me off to social networking, and now corporations have ruined it even more |
| 22:27.48 | fozzmoo | myspace is/was an eyesore. That's what turned me off. |
| 22:27.54 | Gate | JoshH: are you kidding me? The corporations are better than the average user! |
| 22:27.55 | fozzmoo | At least Facebook kept users' hands off the dials. |
| 22:27.58 | tensai | fozzmoo: could not agree more |
| 22:28.11 | tensai | I can only rip my eyes out so many times |
| 22:28.15 | Gate | they have a vested interest in making it look good and professional and appealing |
| 22:28.33 | Gate | the average user says "Geocities MKII!" |
| 22:28.41 | JoshH | facebook isn't hideous like myspace, but it's still an overload of useless information |
| 22:28.47 | fozzmoo | Fast Company had a story about some 15 year old girl who was raking in the bucks (for a 15-yr old) doing Myspace templates |
| 22:28.47 | sjansen | doesn't understand twitter |
| 22:28.57 | tensai | one time I did see a good looking myspace page. no seriously. |
| 22:29.02 | sjansen | doesn't understand facebook |
| 22:29.19 | sjansen | feels old before his time |
| 22:29.22 | fozzmoo | JoshH: What are you talking about?! I just found out my neighbor is not excited about cooking dinner for herself- being that her husband is at some conference this week. |
| 22:29.26 | tensai | sjansen: it's all about the farmville |
| 22:29.34 | JoshH | whatever became of that guy who posted to plug a while back talking about how he was creating the next huge social networking thing? |
| 22:29.36 | fozzmoo | That's valuable data... to... someone. |
| 22:29.59 | fozzmoo | JoshH: You talking about Jesse? |
| 22:30.15 | JoshH | ya, that sounds right |
| 22:30.30 | fozzmoo | He's been on the cusp of socially networking something big for about 12 years now. |
| 22:31.17 | JoshH | so he is still at work on it then |
| 22:31.34 | fozzmoo | probably. |
| 22:31.44 | JoshH | something reminded me of him the other day, and i wondered if he had given up yet and disappeared from the mailing list, or was still working on his idea |
| 22:31.53 | sjansen | Creating? I thought he was just riding. |
| 22:32.50 | sjansen | tensai: Get off my porch! |
| 22:33.11 | tensai | there's a lot of crap on facebook to be sure, but in the little I use of it I find value |
| 22:33.27 | tensai | sjansen: sure. just lemme light this paper bag on fire... |
| 22:34.53 | JoshH | not only is it 99 percent crap, but it's also troubling to me how it's become so normal for employers to look people up on it, etc, and now it's even considered a valid way to serve a summons.... it's just out of control |
| 22:35.20 | JoshH | then there are the occasional bugs that make everyone's private info public |
| 22:35.48 | JoshH | and my wife doesn't even call her friends anymore, she just sends them a fb message, then checks for a reply an hour later |
| 22:36.08 | JoshH | and if there isn't one, she thinks they're avoiding her |
| 22:36.31 | JoshH | "this girl is on facebook all the time, she must be mad at me or something" |
| 22:39.31 | sjansen | On a completely unrelated note, RHEL6 is going to be _so_ awesome. |
| 22:39.43 | fozzmoo | sjansen: Does it have a release date yet? |
| 22:40.02 | sjansen | No. :-( |
| 22:40.21 | sjansen | But references to it are starting to become more common. |
| 22:40.39 | sjansen | Bugzilla options. List postings by RH employees. |
| 22:40.59 | sjansen | I'm personally starting to suspect a late spring, early summer release. |
| 22:57.59 | jsmith-teaching | sjansen: I've heard it's in alpha... but haven't heard more than that |
| 23:01.41 | tristanbob__ | I didn't get facebook until about 6 months ago. now I think it is brilliant. |
| 23:27.13 | sinuhe | jsmith-teaching: Alpha 2, if I remember from a bugzilla post referencing it. Don't know how it ha progressed since. |
| 23:27.24 | sinuhe | s/ha /has / |
| 23:27.31 | sinuhe | ack |
| 23:27.47 | sinuhe | s/ha p/has p/ |
| 23:28.23 | sinuhe | Double ack for acking my ack correction. |
| 23:28.49 | sinuhe | rereads that to make sure it said what he thought it said. |
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