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| 03:25.11 | toofer | why is it beneficial to some stupid site owner that has a tip you want to use to force you to get a login for their site? |
| 03:30.58 | keldwud | huh,wut? |
| 03:31.18 | keldwud | why is a tip beneficial to a site owner? |
| 03:31.22 | keldwud | is that what you were asking? |
| 03:31.28 | Zelut | is confused as well. |
| 03:31.52 | keldwud | I want to use a tip to force people to get a login for my site, so this is beneficial to the stupid site owner? |
| 03:31.53 | ksaisjja | like a tech tip? |
| 03:31.54 | keldwud | scratches head |
| 03:32.05 | keldwud | I am having the most difficult time parsing that sentence. brain hurts |
| 03:32.16 | toofer | I was just looking for an Exchange client besides Evolution on Linux. I thought I found a tip for one that may work. But when I wanted to read the whole story for more info I had to sign to be able to do that. |
| 03:32.26 | ksaisjja | ah |
| 03:32.33 | ksaisjja | that's lame |
| 03:32.34 | toofer | Sorry, frustration overcame me. |
| 03:32.37 | keldwud | the site owner has a tip and he's stupid, so why is it beneficial if I use his tip to force me to get a login for his site? |
| 03:32.37 | ksaisjja | heh |
| 03:32.41 | Zelut | lame. great way to drive traffic _away_ from your site. |
| 03:32.52 | ksaisjja | indeed |
| 03:32.54 | keldwud | toofer, ooooh |
| 03:32.58 | keldwud | got it |
| 03:33.12 | ksaisjja | it wasn't posers_exchange was it? lol |
| 03:33.17 | keldwud | he's of the whole "pay wall" philosophy will generate traffic and revenue |
| 03:33.18 | toofer | keldwud, good point. But I only decided that he's lame after he was trying to forcing me to sign in to read the story on his site. |
| 03:33.30 | tensai | toofer: can you see it in the google cache? |
| 03:33.37 | toofer | nah, I don't remember what the URL was now. |
| 03:33.43 | keldwud | toofer, I was just trying to rearrange the words until I could figure out your meaning :-p |
| 03:33.47 | toofer | tensai, maybe. |
| 03:34.01 | ksaisjja | www.mustlogintoaccesslametips.com |
| 03:34.03 | ksaisjja | lol |
| 03:34.10 | toofer | tensai, no luck with the cache. |
| 03:34.11 | tensai | sometimes if your referer claims to be google the site will let you have it. nytimes.com is that way. |
| 03:35.25 | toofer | oh well. It wasn't that big of a deal anyway. |
| 03:35.41 | toofer | Anyone know of a good client for Exchange on Linux? |
| 03:36.00 | Zelut | I've only ever got Evolution to work |
| 03:38.06 | toofer | grumbles with disdain for Exchange, especially 2007. |
| 03:39.17 | tensai | toofer: I use thunderbird, but merely for the email |
| 03:39.35 | tensai | I calendar with my phone |
| 03:39.50 | tensai | I don't use anything fancy (shared folders, etc) |
| 03:39.56 | toofer | that's all I need. But I only have access to OWA. You use Thunderbird like that? |
| 03:40.33 | tensai | yeah. I was an evolution user for years but thunderbird has been much better. I switched about 6 months ago. |
| 03:41.01 | tensai | thunderbird uses IMAP IDLE so new mail notification is very quick |
| 03:41.42 | toofer | nice. |
| 03:41.50 | tensai | message moving is done server side. evolution would copy the message locally and then store it back to the server. |
| 03:41.59 | tensai | or so it seemed to me. must faster. |
| 03:42.04 | tensai | s/must/much/ |
| 03:42.13 | toofer | hehe |
| 03:42.40 | tensai | I have some issues with messages being marked as unread when they shouldn't |
| 03:42.42 | ksaisjja | nice |
| 03:43.38 | tensai | I recommend 3 extensions: keyconfig, enigmail, and toggle word wrap |
| 03:48.24 | toofer | Thanks, I'll check into those. |
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| 04:15.16 | keldwud | anyone ever used crunchboard for a job? |
| 04:15.26 | keldwud | -er, to *secure* a job? |
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| 06:34.40 | harleypig | bonez2046: I'm using a G1 atm, but I've got a nexus one coming tomorrow or the next day. |
| 06:35.37 | tensai | harleypig: why the (presumed) upgrade from the g1? what do you like about the nexus one? |
| 06:36.32 | tensai | is stuck with a windows mobile phone, but is trying to follow the android devices |
| 06:39.23 | harleypig | tensai: Other than the reports, and having drunk the kool-aid, the G1 doesn't have enough memory to run a decent set of applications. |
| 06:39.48 | harleypig | Also, the G1 can't run Android 2.0 very well (and not at all if you don't root it and install it yourself). |
| 06:40.13 | harleypig | The N1 has multi-touch as well. |
| 06:41.36 | Demo | G1 has no room for future upgrades. You'll have no choice but to root if you want anything beyond 2.0. |
| 06:42.12 | tensai | that is excellent info to know |
| 06:42.28 | tensai | harleypig: did you buy locked or unlocked? |
| 06:42.55 | tensai | harleypig: have you rooted your G1? |
| 06:42.57 | harleypig | Unlocked |
| 06:43.02 | harleypig | I haven't. |
| 06:43.12 | harleypig | I'm not willing to risk bricking my phone. |
| 06:43.21 | tensai | what's the potential benefit of rooting it? |
| 06:43.28 | harleypig | The G1? |
| 06:43.43 | tensai | yeah. why would you need to? |
| 06:44.26 | harleypig | *shrug* You can bypass the app storage in memory for one. |
| 06:44.34 | harleypig | Also, you can install custom android os' |
| 06:45.32 | tensai | looks like you have to root it to enable tethering |
| 06:45.45 | Demo | correct |
| 06:45.51 | harleypig | I'd heard that. |
| 06:46.04 | Demo | It is pretty handy at times :) |
| 06:46.09 | tensai | that might influence me, but I would also be afraid of bricking |
| 06:46.30 | tensai | is the nexus 1 also limited for tethering? |
| 06:46.40 | harleypig | I haven't looked into tethering .. I have no idea if the n1 can do that either. |
| 06:47.24 | Demo | any rooted device, by definition should be able to utilize tethering |
| 06:48.30 | tensai | well sure. question is can I tether without rooting. doesn't look like it. |
| 06:48.47 | tensai | all this is hypothetical of course as I don't think I'll be getting a new phone any time soon :( |
| 06:49.00 | harleypig | "A cemetery is like an old age home for the dead." from Eulogy! |
| 06:49.13 | harleypig | tensai: bummer |
| 06:49.51 | Demo | The tethering app needs to be run under root, no way getting around that :s |
| 06:50.14 | bonez2046 | is the N1 the latest from Nokia, . how does it relate to the N900? |
| 06:51.20 | Demo | N900 has a physical slide out keyboard |
| 06:51.32 | harleypig | I'm too lazy to type Nexus One. |
| 06:51.42 | bonez2046 | ok.. |
| 06:52.02 | bonez2046 | I would have known had I waited and scrolled back |
| 06:52.22 | harleypig | heh |
| 06:57.05 | tensai | harleypig: once you've had time to play with it I'd be interested to hear what you think |
| 06:57.23 | harleypig | sure |
| 06:58.01 | tensai | my phone has been driving me crazy lately. freezes up randomly. |
| 06:58.26 | tensai | does it at least twice a week |
| 06:58.34 | harleypig | You have an iphone? |
| 06:58.40 | tensai | windows mobile |
| 06:58.48 | harleypig | oh, right. You said that. |
| 06:58.50 | tensai | (not my choice) |
| 06:59.07 | harleypig | It being a windows box that's to be expected right? |
| 06:59.28 | tensai | well I wouldn't say I'm *surprised* certainly. but I'm definitely annoyed. |
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| 07:18.19 | keldwud | the internet has completely corrupted my understanding of the word "surprise" |
| 07:18.37 | keldwud | now every time I read it, I can't help but chuckle a little |
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| 07:36.56 | fozzmoo | tensai: rendering. :) |
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| 07:38.37 | tensai | fozzmoo: you should do a utosc presentation about how you record/edit/render utosc |
| 07:38.58 | fozzmoo | tensai: When Im doing it all with open source software, I will. :) |
| 07:39.41 | fozzmoo | I capture and transcode w/ open source, but the editing Im still doing with MediaStudio Pro on Winbloze. |
| 07:39.54 | tensai | didn't stop howard taylor in 2008 |
| 07:40.05 | fozzmoo | When kdenlive becomes more stable, I can probably go al OSS. |
| 07:40.47 | fozzmoo | ~smack toofer |
| 07:40.48 | ibot | ACTION smacks toofer upside the head. |
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| 07:41.46 | tensai | what would be really geeky would be doing the demo while producing your own presentation. you know, throw in some recursion. |
| 07:41.55 | fozzmoo | heh. Yeah. |
| 07:49.40 | tensai | some good news this evening. my ldap failover is working perfectly. :) |
| 07:54.52 | fozzmoo | tensai: Good. |
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| 18:51.40 | Jayce^ | mmm, leftover homemade orange chicken |
| 18:58.22 | unum | so I ran netstat -ltnp and see - listed as a program..... |
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| 19:55.22 | sjansen | http://computinged.wordpress.com/2010/02/14/cleaving-computer-science-a-time-for-new-degrees/ |
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| 21:20.42 | fozzmoo | I'm getting pissed off at Apache. |
| 21:21.49 | fozzmoo | I'm doing a simple GET from a server that has a directory mounted from another server via CIFS |
| 21:22.40 | fozzmoo | The mount is done with uid= and gid= options so that the web server user should have access to everything on the CIFS share. |
| 21:22.59 | fozzmoo | But I'm getting forbidden errors. |
| 21:23.43 | fozzmoo | I would suspect SELinux, but it's set to permissive. |
| 21:24.07 | fozzmoo | If I give the web server user a shel and su - to that user, I can access the files just fine. |
| 21:24.44 | fozzmoo | I wrote a Perl script to give me the UID, GID, and mode of the file from within the Apache process... |
| 21:25.08 | fozzmoo | it says Mode is 0660, UID = 506, GID = 504 |
| 21:26.46 | fozzmoo | From a shell as the web user (nobody): -rw-rw---- 1 nobody nobody |
| 21:27.04 | fozzmoo | It's a real head-scratcher. |
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| 22:36.34 | keldwud | sweet. only two more levels and I've completed Heir to the Throne in Wesnoth |
| 22:49.57 | tristanbob | the artist formerly known as "final fantasy" is actually really good |
| 22:50.33 | tristanbob | he loops a bunch of sounds live so that he becomes a one man band, using violin |
| 22:52.26 | tristanbob | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0O_yyEA72HE |
| 22:55.53 | keldwud | kind of like imogen heap? |
| 22:57.19 | tristanbob | perhaps, it is a neat use of technology in music |
| 22:57.30 | tristanbob | I haven't heard him use an auto-tuner yet :) |
| 22:57.39 | tristanbob | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q02ompQhtY8&feature=related |
| 23:02.47 | fozzmoo | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDTZAPseEdU |
| 23:03.07 | fozzmoo | tensai... in all his glory. |
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| 23:16.56 | fozzmoo | I know. It leaves a man speechless. |
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| 23:32.11 | tensai | fozzmoo: busy working too. looks pretty good. audio is ok despite the issues you had. |
| 23:32.18 | tensai | fozzmoo: can I get the .flv file? |
| 23:35.00 | tensai | fozzmoo: and thanks btw |
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| 23:58.06 | harleypig | Is there a way to freeze a screen session and restore it on reboot? |