IRC log for #utah on 20100201

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19:19.13*** topic/#utah is logs @ http://ibot.rikers.org/#utah | The truth is a virus for Mr Serious
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19:36.20rsimpkinsSoooo. Anyone interested in Arduino?
19:37.10jsmithis!
19:37.24Jayce^will be there
19:37.35Jayce^invites jsmith :)
19:37.45fozzmooI may be there.
19:37.54*** join/#utah JoshH (~josh@2607:fa18:100:8000:191::)
19:38.01rsimpkinsI'm pretty excited as well. I'm trying to convince Dan to go 50/50 on one with me.
19:39.42rsimpkinsI have a really dumb and geeky project I want to eventually build. An Arduino with an accelerometer, hooked up to RGB LED light bars. I wanna put it in my car and program it to change brightness/color as I speed up/slow down/turn.
19:40.58jsmithJayce^: Does that invite come with a plane ticket?
19:41.08Jayce^nope, just the invite..
19:41.21Jayce^heck, I'll even pick up dinner for ya :-p
19:41.27rsimpkinsjsmith: I will give you a 0.00002% discount on a ticket. :)
19:41.59jsmithrsimpkins: How generous of you!
19:42.51rsimpkinsI hear they are going to doulbe my salary soon. From -0.2/mo to -0.4/mo. So, I'm pretty excited to pay more money to work here.
19:43.32tensaiobama is planning to kill constellation. probably a good move. http://www.nasa.gov/news/budget/index.html
19:45.23sjansenBut, but, but...
19:46.08sjansenHow's Bush supposed to go down in history for repeating what Kenney already accomplished instead of betraying American in general conservatism in particular?
19:47.12sjansenNow all we'll have to remember him by is ballooning debt and torture. :-(
19:47.26tensaisjansen: done and done
19:49.40rsimpkinsIf half the US is thinking rationally, and the other half is thinking irrationally, how can I tell which side is the rational one?
19:50.38goozbachrsimpkins: they're both rational
19:50.42goozbach1/2
19:50.44goozbach:)
19:51.13rsimpkinsSo, both sides are rational half the time. I am enlightened.
19:55.13rsimpkinsI think I'm going to join jsmith and become conservatively liberal, not to be confused with liberally conservative.
19:55.14fungusthat can make it even harder to know rationality.
19:55.31fungusNow you have to evaluate every statement/decision, instead of a whole group.
19:55.40jsmithrsimpkins: No, you've got it all wrong... I'm part of the new "Radical Moderates" party
19:56.02fungusThis sucks.  I can't just pick one side.  I miss my partisanship.  :P
19:56.10sjansenI'm the liberal conservative, slowly transitioning to conservative liberal.
19:56.11rsimpkinsOh, you're radically moderate, as opposed to moderatly radical. I'm sorry. We can't be friends now.
19:56.31jsmithrsimpkins: You never liked me that much anyhoo...
19:56.53JoshHi'm socially liberal, fiscally moderate to liberal, conservative in a few areas
19:57.43rsimpkinsI think I'm going to move to London. At least there you know who you're fighting for. God save the Queen!
19:57.55JoshHmost people can't be easily pigeonholed, unless they are just all out, like glenn beck loving tea partiers, or code pink types or something
19:58.01goozbachrsimpkins: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rational_number
19:58.28rsimpkinsGlen Beck is an expert commercial salesman.
19:58.32goozbachone half of the people are rational
19:58.48goozbach"one half of the people" is rational
19:58.54goozbachit's a ratio of the number of people
19:59.03goozbach~laugh
19:59.04ibotACTION rolls around on the floor laughing
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20:14.35Migshahaha this is AWESOME http://www.asylum.com/2010/01/29/westboro-baptist-church-protests-gets-protested-outside-twitter/
20:25.44trip0wbc fail
20:30.15rsimpkinsI guess you can't have a middle unless you have ends.
20:31.14JoshHdidn't those guys protest in slc a while ago?
20:31.25JoshHlike after GBH died
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20:33.09rsimpkinsI wonder if they realize they are just a traveling circus?
20:34.21trip0JoshH, i think they did
20:34.25trip0or at least they tried
20:38.33tensaiyes. apparently 4 of them made the trip. http://www.deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695249686,00.html
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20:40.00rsimpkinsIs that like half their church?
20:40.10tensai"It's estimated there are between 70 and 100 Westboro members."
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20:40.44*** mode/#utah [+v bonez2046] by goozbach
20:40.46bonez2046?
20:40.52*** mode/#utah [+v dcarter_remote] by goozbach
20:40.57dcarter_remotehello
20:41.00goozbachhmm
20:41.04bonez2046hello
20:42.04goozbachbonez2046: reading you loud and clear
20:42.14goozbachbut for some reason we're still set +r
20:43.40goozbachthere's a quiet list now?
20:44.58bonez2046yes..
20:46.44*** mode/#utah [-q bonez2046!*@*] by goozbach
20:46.51*** mode/#utah [-v bonez2046] by goozbach
20:46.55goozbachbonez2046: try saying something now
20:47.21*** mode/#utah [-q dcarter_remote!*@*] by goozbach
20:47.26*** mode/#utah [-v dcarter_remote] by goozbach
20:47.37*** mode/#utah [+v dcarter_remote] by goozbach
20:47.40dcarter_remotehello
20:47.46*** mode/#utah [+v bonez2046] by goozbach
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20:51.00*** mode/#utah [-q $~a] by goozbach
20:51.08*** mode/#utah [-vv bonez2046 dcarter_remote] by goozbach
20:51.11dcarter_remotehello
20:51.15goozbachyay!
20:51.19goozbachhey ops.
20:51.36goozbachthe old +R mode is set by doing /mode +q $~a
20:51.52goozbachbonez2046: you should be able to talk now
20:52.27bonez2046ok, thanks.....
20:53.02*** join/#utah jlp_work (~jlp@gateway.FREECAKENETWORKS.COM)
20:57.09eightyeightit's worth registering your nick with nickserv, if you haven't already done so
20:57.38goozbacheightyeight: bonez2046 is having problems with that, he has to contact freenode staff for a fix
20:57.53goozbachuntil he's got it fixed I've turned off +q for all
20:58.59eightyeightyeah. that's fine. there are other benefits of a registered nick than talking in +R channels
21:00.09goozbachtrue
21:00.57eightyeightfor one, you can get an unaffiliated cloak to hide your ip from others
21:07.54bonez2046I have tried to register , a la '/msg nickserv register <pwd> <emailaddress>' and it refuses and tells me NickServ(NickServ@services.)- sanchiro@gmail.com has too many accounts registered.
21:08.13goozbachtry a different email address?
21:08.18goozbach*shrug*
21:11.35bonez2046goozbach: tried different email and that worked..
21:11.37bonez2046thanks
21:14.15sjansen~lart prelink
21:14.15ibotgrabs a large, mis-shapened log, with squirrels, and beats prelink until only the nuts remain ... which the squirrels run off with
21:16.32*** mode/#utah [+q $~a] by goozbach
21:16.35goozbachbonez2046: say something
21:16.45bonez2046ok
21:16.48bonez2046I am here..
21:17.08bonez2046etwas gesagt..! something was said
21:17.40sjansen~lart prelink
21:17.40ibotdrops a humongous exploding nuke on prelink
21:18.03tensai~prelink sjansen
21:18.43bonez2046just setting up a clearOS box.. to filter all my net traffice..
21:19.42sjansen~lart prelink
21:19.42ibotexecutes killall -TERM prelink
21:24.30goozbachgroovy
21:37.10fozzmoorsimpkins: Glenn Beck (two Ns.) :)
21:38.22tensaithe second N stands for "crazy"
21:38.47fozzmooheh heh.
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21:39.23tensaithat's true of all double letters. isn't that right fozzmoo?
21:40.11JoshHthe second z stands for zebra
21:41.04eightyeightzany
21:41.16fozzmootensai: sure.
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21:58.02sjansenARGGGHHHHHHHH! https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=533087
21:59.42sjansenI'd love to help with this bug, but I can't get kdump to work on the box. :-(
21:59.55goozbachipv6 is borked in kvm?
22:00.58jsmithgoozbach: Oh?
22:01.39goozbachjsmith: looks like it from the bug sjansen just posted
22:02.08goozbachwho was it who mentioned something to me about my kvm virts taking up the cpu and making the temp 100C
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22:02.35goozbachwhenever I fire up my windows guest, the CPU pegs and the cpu temp spikes
22:03.06blendmaster1024goozbach, why even bother saying?
22:03.27blendmaster1024it's GOING to take more CPU to start a os
22:03.37goozbachblendmaster1024: there's using more cpu
22:04.04goozbachthen there's  burn your desk from the CPU as a virt guest sits idle
22:04.11goozbachmy problem is the latter
22:04.14sjansengoozbach: Have you installed the Windows paravirt drivers? My understanding is that without them Window falls back to some pretty stupid but reliable hardware interaction.
22:05.55goozbachsjansen: nope
22:06.00goozbachI'll look at that
22:09.13goozbachfound a bug which may be related: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=478317
22:20.35sjansendrowns his sorrows in homemade salsa
22:20.46goozbachhmm
22:20.51goozbachnachos...
22:20.54goozbachthat sounds good
22:23.22tensaiholds sjansen under with a tortilla chip
22:23.53eightyeightseriously. just discovered a cool feature of lsof that i hadn't realized until just now
22:23.55jsmithsjansen: Salsa, or picante sauce?
22:24.05eightyeightand of course, it makes all the sense in the world
22:24.43b4201retsamdnelbeightyeight, what is it?
22:24.49eightyeightrather than 'netstat -taupen | grep <port #>' which is not very portable across unices, 'lsof -i -P | grep <port #>'
22:24.51sjansenThis batch is more of a pico de gallo.
22:25.05eightyeightfor discovering that pid belongs to a bound port
22:25.11eightyeights/that/what/
22:25.31b4201retsamdnelbs/ibot/idiot/
22:27.21blendmaster1024~seen localfilmmaker
22:27.23ibotblendmaster1024: i haven't seen 'localfilmmaker'
22:27.26eightyeightthe only roadneck i've come across, is lsof is not installed on solaris by default
22:27.35blendmaster1024dang, must not be his nick
22:27.43blendmaster1024~seen admiral
22:27.43iboti haven't seen 'admiral', blendmaster1024
22:27.51blendmaster1024dang it!
22:28.51eightyeights/roadneck/roadblock/
22:28.52eightyeightheh
22:29.05eightyeightmight as well be redneck in that case. :)
22:29.21sjansen"You might be a roadneck if..."
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22:31.44eightyeighthmm. it appears lsof is not on hpux either. dangit
22:32.04eightyeightwell, at least it covers the broader range of bsd-based and linux-based
22:34.55JoshHdoes solaris include fuser?
22:35.00JoshHthat's what i normally use
22:35.05JoshH(on loobix)
22:35.41eightyeightit appears so. can you use fuser to discover pids on bound ports?
22:35.45JoshHyes
22:35.58eightyeighti was just looking over the man page
22:37.59PenguinGodthe penguins are coming to town!
22:40.35PenguinGodaha!
22:40.36eightyeightooh. even better
22:40.44eightyeightlsof -i :port#
22:40.46PenguinGodi found Admiral Potato!
22:42.48PenguinGodand i think i found "spencer" too
22:43.01PenguinGodwait ... he must be like ...
22:43.13PenguinGodis marc on here?
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23:01.57keldwudwho put the goat in there?
23:02.02keldwudhave you been high today?
23:09.12sontekthere is no goat
23:14.42eightyeightgoat? what?
23:14.49sjansenhttp://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/digitalnation/
23:14.50eightyeightwhere did that come from?
23:24.02Migswhat's the "virtual frontier?"
23:24.40Migswhere do they come up with these terms?
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23:32.53sjansenhttp://i.imgur.com/kpb5A.png
23:35.06trip0what do the colors mean?
23:36.20sjansenLook at the number, now look at the color. Now look at another number and its color. Notice a pattern?
23:37.56trip0no, i'm pretty sure green means go
23:38.01trip0and red means stop
23:38.47trip0so vermont probably has the least amount of traffic
23:41.20trip0and btw, there isn't a very consistant pattern
23:41.31trip0for religiousness, green is the lowest value
23:41.38trip0while in iq, green is the highest
23:41.56trip0are they infering that being less religious and really smart is preferable?
23:42.06trip0that's really what I was asking
23:44.54sjansenCongratulation, you discovered the presentation is biased. Although you misused "infer".
23:45.04sjansen~dict infer
23:45.08sjansen~dict imply
23:45.51trip0yeah, stupid autospell
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23:47.03sjansenAutospell? Don't you mean autothink?
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23:47.53trip0autothink failed again apparently
23:48.09sjansengrabs ksaisjja and pins him to the floor
23:49.19Migshahahahahaha http://www.theonion.com/content/video/congo_approves_economic_stimulus

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