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| 02:40.26 | fozzmoo | http://www.engrish.com/2010/01/i-think-ive-seen-enough-here/ |
| 02:40.31 | fozzmoo | Hee hee. |
| 03:15.20 | eightyeight | if $V1 and $V2 both contain a path on the system, and i want to 'perl -pi -e s/$V1/$V2/g', how do i get past the '/' in each var? this should be a simple problem, but i can't get past it |
| 03:16.45 | goozbach | s#$v1#$v2#g |
| 03:16.47 | goozbach | ? |
| 03:19.27 | eightyeight | goozbach: not a bad idea |
| 03:19.36 | eightyeight | i forgot you could do that |
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| 16:40.05 | bonez2047 | ? |
| 16:41.48 | SunSparc | ! |
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| 16:55.41 | bonez2047 | just making sure I am connected |
| 17:05.42 | SunSparc | ibot: check bonez2047's connection |
| 17:05.43 | ibot | ACTION slams bonez2047's connection into the glass nose first |
| 17:11.40 | Jayce^ | remember why I stopped using everydns... won't let me add SRV records |
| 17:11.56 | Jayce^ | can't federate my jabber server without them (with gtalk) |
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| 17:20.45 | Jayce^ | so what free dns services do other folks use? |
| 17:21.19 | fungus | I host my own primary, and use everydns.net and xname.org for slaves |
| 17:22.41 | Jayce^ | do you use any srv records? |
| 17:22.50 | fungus | of course. |
| 17:23.21 | Jayce^ | ok, so do they ignore the srv? or just allow it from your own? |
| 17:23.41 | fungus | nope they don't ignore anything |
| 17:25.17 | Jayce^ | ok, they don't let you add it via their interace, but they will slave it |
| 17:25.20 | Jayce^ | good to know |
| 17:26.45 | Zelut | I host my own as well. |
| 17:27.51 | Jayce^ | yeah, I don't have a stable server/connection to host from atm... beginning to consolidate a few things to prep for that |
| 17:28.02 | SunSparc | hosts his own as well, using TinyDNS |
| 17:28.38 | SunSparc | At work we use DNSMadeEasy.com, but they are not free. |
| 17:32.25 | Zelut | needs to learn tiny more than the maintenance-only education he has from work. |
| 17:32.43 | Zelut | right now I have master/slave/slave running BIND on FreeBSD. |
| 17:35.03 | SunSparc | Tiny is much easier than bind. I installed Tiny many years ago.. 5+ and have never touched it since. Other than modifying dns records. |
| 17:36.35 | tensai | Jayce^: zoneedit |
| 17:36.57 | Zelut | I've had much more experience with BIND, but I see the merit in tiny. I really should make some time to migrate one of these days. |
| 17:37.09 | tristanbob_ | http://www.oracle.com/webapps/events/EventsDetail.jsp?p_eventId=108481&src=6806472&src=6806472&Act=20 (Oracle announcement) |
| 17:37.20 | tristanbob_ | http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/27/live-from-the-apple-tablet-latest-creation-event/ (Apple event) |
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| 17:38.22 | tensai | tristanbob_: meh, tablet |
| 17:39.33 | tristanbob_ | tensai, keep an openmind, it just might surprise you. |
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| 17:40.07 | sjansen | Twenty minutes until Apple changes the world again. |
| 17:40.19 | elg | are they going to announce sjansen clones? |
| 17:40.28 | sjansen | How am I supposed to get any work done under these conditions? |
| 17:40.37 | elg | slackers unite |
| 17:40.38 | SunSparc | Seriously |
| 17:40.40 | sjansen | I think I'm going to pee my pants. |
| 17:40.45 | elg | just go pop some popcorn or something |
| 17:40.51 | elg | play a game of ping pong |
| 17:40.52 | sjansen | Yep, yep, there I go. |
| 17:41.02 | SunSparc | Apple General Conference is traditionally a non-productive day for me. |
| 17:41.04 | elg | you might have time to change your pants. |
| 17:41.13 | jsmith | ropes elg and Jayce^ and goozbach into a game of Pioneers |
| 17:41.14 | sjansen | If I had a tail, I'd be toppled over and twitching by now. |
| 17:41.26 | elg | you don't need a rope |
| 17:42.48 | elg | the only way an apple tablet would excite me is if it were about the size and weight of a kindle or maybe a hair bigger (e.g. the size of a composition notebook), had magical unicorn powder-based screen protection, and cost about $200. |
| 17:43.08 | fungus | The morning before the announcement is for reading rumors, then you take a lunch after the announcement to pre-order it, and talk about it. then you still have half a day to be productive. |
| 17:43.10 | sjansen | elg: Heathen! |
| 17:43.23 | sjansen | How dare you disrespect the Jobs? |
| 17:43.36 | jsmith | sjansen: You know why he wears turtlenecks, right? |
| 17:43.40 | sjansen | declares elg his mortal enemy |
| 17:43.45 | elg | jsmith: hickeys? |
| 17:44.07 | jsmith | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:44.12 | tensai | jsmith: I've always assumed he's just a floating head |
| 17:44.32 | sjansen | declares jsmith his mortal enemy |
| 17:44.53 | tensai | sjansen: what happens when The Jobs finds out you have a Pre? |
| 17:45.05 | sjansen | Clearly those who do not worship at the alter of Jobs are too vulgar to see the emperor's clothes. |
| 17:45.16 | sjansen | declares tensai his mortal enemy |
| 17:45.20 | elg | so the turtleneck is his underwear? |
| 17:47.50 | sjansen | There's a chair and a table on the stage! |
| 17:48.05 | sjansen | It's going to be possible to use the tablet while sitting in a chair! |
| 17:48.19 | elg | has to be an apple chair. |
| 17:48.27 | elg | or maybe an AT&T chair. |
| 17:48.29 | tensai | for every good idea there must be an equal and oppose bad idea. yin and yang, etc. so for every good design idea The Jobs has, he has to create an evil idea as well. thus the turtlenecks. |
| 17:48.49 | sjansen | tensai: Nope. Microsoft is Apple's Yang. |
| 17:49.32 | sjansen | (Gee, that sounds kinda dirty. I wonder if I did that on purpose.) |
| 17:49.44 | tensai | sjansen: vista is a pretty big yang |
| 17:49.58 | elg | Of course you did. You're not fooling us. |
| 17:50.44 | sjansen | ~slay elg, jsmith, and tensai |
| 17:50.45 | ibot | ACTION brandishes Excalibur! "With this sword, I vanquish thee, elg, jsmith, and tensai!" apt lops off elg, jsmith, and tensai's head. |
| 17:51.26 | fungus | oh, how would it be to bow before the great and powerful Jobs. |
| 17:51.44 | elg | sweet, now they can mount me on a turtleneck mannequin and I can be just like jobs |
| 17:52.03 | sjansen | Probably like in the Wizard of Oz only you'd get a tablet computer instead of a stupid balloon ride. |
| 17:52.35 | fungus | oh how wonderful. |
| 17:52.53 | fungus | We're off to watch a liveblog of the wizard.... |
| 17:54.04 | sjansen | Whatâ½ Whatâ½ Some coverage is saying there's a chair on the stage, other coverage is saying the stage is empty. Oh the controversy! The humanity! |
| 17:56.26 | sjansen | The room is decorated with color and pictures of Apples! |
| 17:57.11 | sjansen | They're turning off their cell phones and pagers! |
| 17:57.58 | sjansen | is about to pee his pants _again_ |
| 17:58.16 | elg | why don't you just leave them off? |
| 18:01.09 | sjansen | The lights are going down! |
| 18:02.31 | elg | now you really have no excuse for those pants. |
| 18:02.33 | sjansen | Why isn't Slashdot covering this story? |
| 18:02.40 | elg | it will, in a week. |
| 18:02.42 | tensai | turns off sjansen's lights |
| 18:02.45 | sjansen | Jobs is on stage! |
| 18:02.58 | sjansen | faints from excitement yet manages to continue typing anyway |
| 18:03.03 | elg | where are you watching this? for those of us who aren't at the stake centers. |
| 18:05.04 | sjansen | engadget is down! engadget is down! |
| 18:05.37 | sjansen | How'm I supposed to participate in this great moment in history with engadget downâ½ |
| 18:07.06 | sjansen | elg: You killed engadget didn't you? |
| 18:07.18 | elg | I am engadget's yank |
| 18:07.20 | elg | yang |
| 18:07.22 | elg | dank |
| 18:09.25 | sjansen | http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/27/live-from-the-apple-tablet-latest-creation-event/?sort=newest&refresh=60 |
| 18:10.47 | elg | so how does this liveblog thing work? do I have to keep refreshing? |
| 18:11.13 | sjansen | The iPad! |
| 18:11.20 | sjansen | pees his pants a third time |
| 18:12.07 | SunSparc | lol |
| 18:12.14 | elg | oh i see an auto refresh. how quaint |
| 18:12.55 | elg | wonders if this will mean he can grab a cheap iphone on craigslist |
| 18:15.32 | sjansen | Jobs is sitting in the chair! You can sit in a chair and use the iPad! |
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| 18:28.46 | elg | people on craigslist that ask for text messages should have the courtesy to reply with more than one word. |
| 18:34.05 | sjansen | Ugh. The iPad had better have twice the resolution of the iPhone. |
| 18:36.49 | jsmith | sjansen: What, you're actually following it that closely? |
| 18:38.02 | elg | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8481448.stm |
| 18:38.05 | sjansen | I dream of someone finally getting a Tablet right. |
| 18:43.15 | tensai | still not convinced anybody needs a tablet |
| 18:45.08 | elg | tensai: you don't watch enough star trek. |
| 18:45.17 | elg | everyone needs a PADD |
| 18:45.29 | elg | except when a bulky tricorder will do. |
| 18:45.33 | tensai | elg: I don't want skin tight clothing either |
| 18:45.47 | elg | you're just saying that because you're not bald. |
| 18:47.21 | tensai | http://awkwardfamilyphotos.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/1-689x1024.jpg |
| 18:47.50 | elg | :-D |
| 18:47.52 | tensai | proof that not everything star trek did works in this reality |
| 18:52.56 | elg | I'm still bitter my flip phone didn't go "chirp a chirp chirp" when I opened it. |
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| 19:40.24 | sjansen | http://tv.gawker.com/5458322/cnbc-anchor-says-the-ipad-reminds-me-of-feminine-products |
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| 20:15.37 | Migs | does anyone know of a Linux PowerPoint to Flash (SWF) converter, that keeps animations intact? OpenOffice won't preserve animations. |
| 20:17.46 | jsmith | Migs: I don't know of a Linux version, but something like sliderocket.com will probably work for you |
| 20:18.00 | jsmith | Migs: acrobat.com might do that as well |
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| 20:34.46 | Migs | hmm |
| 20:34.49 | Migs | I need to be able to host it myself |
| 20:35.01 | Migs | I'm adding document sharing to www.webertube.com |
| 20:35.51 | Migs | right now I have openoffice running in headless mode, with JODConverter (http://www.artofsolving.com/opensource/jodconverter) acting as a web service, so I'm going to use that for Word docs, spreadsheets, etc. but I'm hoping there's some alternative for PowerPoints |
| 20:36.25 | Migs | the best ppt to flash conversion service I've seen is actually slideboom.com |
| 20:36.30 | Migs | they seem to do the best job in preserving animations |
| 20:38.34 | Migs | I'll keep poking around. I know there's commercial Windows utilities that do this, but haven't seen Linux ones yet. |
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| 20:44.36 | sjansen | Migs: Why does it matter? Transitions do nothing to improve comprehension or retention, they're nothing but blackholes for time. |
| 20:46.25 | Migs | Oh I agree. But the teachers this is for will complain about it, guaranteed. |
| 20:47.24 | Migs | they'll be okay if I just tell them animations aren't supported, but eventually they're going to want them. |
| 21:03.37 | TehLaser | I'm sure someone has come up with a memorable animation somewhere. |
| 21:07.01 | sjansen | And that'd be an accomplishment if the purpose of the presentation were to discuss animations, but kinda sad if the presentation were trying to discuss anything else. |
| 21:10.20 | TehLaser | No, I mean a clever animation could improve retention. |
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| 21:31.36 | sjansen | Well, sure, there's also a chance I'll wake up tomorrow and discover my own personal Unicorn nibbling on my lawn. |
| 21:32.14 | blendmaster1024 | if there's a chance that it'd be "your personal" then you have problems |
| 21:33.50 | sinuhe | TehLaser: Clever animation is destracting and gives the student more to remember and comprehend. Diagrams and interelationship of ideas are more important than looking cool. |
| 21:35.24 | sinuhe | s/important/useful/ |
| 21:35.48 | Migs | I imagine you hate Prezi then |
| 21:37.59 | sinuhe | Never found a use for it. |
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| 22:01.03 | TehLaser | I remember seeing math videos, before the era of powerpoint in the classroom, that had some rather effective animations of equations being manipulated. |
| 22:01.23 | TehLaser | Doing that statically wouldn't have been nearly as effective. |
| 22:04.30 | tensai | star wipes to a glamour shot of sjansen paying his bills |
| 22:05.11 | sinuhe | TehLaser: Video, yes, when it relays information. That's no different than pulling up octave and demonstrating the equation manipulatoin. That' different than an animation, as has so far been discussed. |
| 22:05.15 | sjansen | We're not talking about animation withing a slide, but animation between slides. |
| 22:05.37 | sinuhe | Even worse |
| 22:10.57 | TehLaser | Ah, yeah, silly slide transition effects are useless. |
| 22:55.09 | *** topic/#utah by sjansen -> logs @ http://ibot.rikers.org/#utah | If a packet hits a pocket on a socket on a port... |
| 23:03.18 | jackman | And the bus is interrupted as a very last resort! |
| 23:04.44 | sjansen | Heh, didn't take the FSF long: http://www.fsf.org/news/ibad_launch |
| 23:05.47 | eightyeight | i'm waiting for them to pick up the ubuntu/yahoo news. and where's boycottnovell during all this? |
| 23:06.33 | sinuhe | eightyeight: They already have. Karl was complaining about it yesterday on the GNU webmasters dicussion list. |
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| 23:12.06 | eightyeight | but nothing public? |
| 23:12.12 | sinuhe | I doubt it. |
| 23:12.24 | sinuhe | (There's nothing yet) |
| 23:14.29 | sjansen | The FSF is getting pissy about Canonical's Yahoo! deal? |
| 23:15.27 | sinuhe | sjansen: No. My comment was to show that the FSF knew about the deal, not that they were opposed, or cared. |
| 23:17.47 | tensai | sjansen: the FSF was complaining about your lunch yesterday. said you should have had a PB&J sandwich. |
| 23:17.53 | eightyeight | and there it is: http://boycottnovell.com/2010/01/27/ubuntu-and-msft-search/ |
| 23:18.13 | sjansen | tensai: PB&J was dinner. |
| 23:19.27 | sjansen | eightyeight: Wow. I already knew boycottnovell was run by morons, but now I see its run by blind, hate-filled morons. |
| 23:19.56 | eightyeight | it's _almost_ as entertaining as reading the daily globe or national enquirer |
| 23:20.24 | sinuhe | nods in agreement with sjansen |
| 23:20.27 | eightyeight | "âÂÂYahoo is Bingo in disguise,â said our Hungarian reader MinceR. Our reader Kecskebak (also from Hungary) was more blunt. He wrote: âÂÂWell, seeing as Yahoo! has done a deal with Bing itâÂÂs Bing by proxy. Shuttlecock â say Bing!âÂÂ" |
| 23:20.31 | eightyeight | meh |
| 23:23.05 | sinuhe | thinks that sjansen being agreeable is getting out of control |
| 23:23.12 | sinuhe | ~argue sjansen |
| 23:23.12 | ibot | sjansen: shut your festering gob, you tit! your type really makes me puke. |
| 23:23.55 | sjansen | ~repartee sinuhe |
| 23:24.09 | sinuhe | I received the FSF request to renew my associate membership yesterday. |
| 23:26.34 | sinuhe | The fact that FSF money is going less to software projects, and more to politically motivated whining through web site proliferation, is making me question their future relevance to free software. |
| 23:26.40 | sjansen | http://failblog.org/2010/01/27/name-fail-photoshop-win/ |
| 23:27.12 | sinuhe | realizes that is his first anti-FSF public comment, wonders what it means |
| 23:36.30 | eightyeight | you should donate to the eff instead. at least then, your money is actually protecting something, rather than the possibility of protecting with slow probability of actually doing it |
| 23:39.11 | sinuhe | eightyeight: Something to consider. |
| 23:56.24 | sjansen | http://i.gizmodo.com/5458382/8-things-that-suck-about-the-ipad |
