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| 15:19.52 | Zelut | dokuwiki ftw++ . easily expandable (plugins). lightweight (plain text). auth support for a dozen types (md5, ldap, sha, etc). themable. |
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| 18:28.53 | sjansen | http://allthatiswrong.wordpress.com/2010/01/20/the-insecurity-of-openbsd/ |
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| 18:33.41 | elg | hugs vmware |
| 18:33.41 | elg | or i guess, virtualization in general |
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| 18:35.01 | elg | my travel drive i reformatted to xfs because hfs+ was proving too flaky in linux (the drive is apparently somewhat power hungry and has the habit of "popping out of gear", and it royally screwed with hfs+ in a way that thankfully left my data readable but required a reformat) |
| 18:35.01 | elg | osx of course has no xfs support |
| 18:35.02 | elg | but ubuntu in vmware fusion does |
| 18:42.24 | eightyeight | it's rather disconcerting the lack of cross-platform filesystem support between the major oses |
| 19:27.27 | elg | nobody needs more than FAT32 |
| 20:10.12 | elg | anyone wanna be a sysadmin in Dublin? I've got an email from a recruiter here. "Senior Linux Administrator - expert in Debian Linux administration and experienced with Cacti, Nagios, Monitoring, Security, BASH/Perl, Apache configuration - Dublin, Ireland - Top salary/bonus program/relocation" |
| 20:11.11 | herlo | woo! I'm interested |
| 20:11.15 | herlo | loved Dublin |
| 20:11.19 | goozbach | that'd be cool |
| 20:11.29 | goozbach | but I'm trying to move closer to home, not further away |
| 20:11.35 | herlo | haha |
| 20:11.49 | Nafai | goozbach: wait. you sure you're wife will let you move away from Georgia? :) |
| 20:11.56 | Nafai | s/you're/your/ |
| 20:12.08 | elg | I'd love to relocate to dublin. not gonna happen right now though |
| 20:12.40 | herlo | elg: have you been to Dublin? |
| 20:12.48 | elg | no |
| 20:13.02 | elg | mexico and canada |
| 20:13.31 | elg | some day, i look forward to visiting england and ireland and denmark and europe in general |
| 20:14.10 | elg | if i had to pick a far-off place to go live, somewhere in britain or ireland is near the top. |
| 20:14.12 | jsmith | elg: If it were the right sys-admin job, I'd probably think about it |
| 20:14.18 | jsmith | likes Dublin |
| 20:14.21 | herlo | elg: Ireland is awesome |
| 20:14.40 | Nafai | I've heard its great, even for someone who doesn't appreciate Guiness |
| 20:15.36 | herlo | ya |
| 20:15.45 | herlo | so gorgeous and the people are awesome nice |
| 20:15.57 | herlo | they do say 'F**K' a *lot* though |
| 20:16.02 | elg | http://pastie.org/private/rxnybo918woyyjyjrq1q |
| 20:16.09 | herlo | it's built into their vocabulary |
| 20:16.16 | Nafai | That seems to be a typical UK thing |
| 20:16.52 | sinuhe | herlo: piss also means a lot to them, where it doesn't to us. |
| 20:17.16 | herlo | yeah |
| 20:17.23 | herlo | sinuhe: how's things? |
| 20:17.30 | elg | as in the word carries more weight, or they think more highly of their urine? |
| 20:17.31 | sinuhe | sinuhe: Good. :) |
| 20:17.31 | herlo | hasn't seen you in a while online. |
| 20:17.35 | sinuhe | doh |
| 20:17.39 | sinuhe | s/sinuhe/herlo/ |
| 20:17.41 | herlo | we need to do lunch sometime soon... |
| 20:17.54 | herlo | sinuhe: understood :) |
| 20:17.55 | sinuhe | herlo: Huh? I'm on #utah every day. |
| 20:18.11 | herlo | sinuhe: I don't participate here normally, too politically charged of an environment for me |
| 20:18.33 | herlo | as in, if politics are discussed, I don't wanna be here :) |
| 20:18.37 | elg | herlo: politically charged? #utah? |
| 20:18.42 | herlo | elg: haha |
| 20:18.59 | herlo | elg: any political discussion is *charged* if you ask me |
| 20:19.23 | herlo | unless it has changed in the recent months... |
| 20:19.44 | elg | it has been a little while since I saw one go whizzing by |
| 20:19.53 | elg | but I may not have been paying attention. |
| 20:20.05 | herlo | yeah. I don't come in here much these days, so I don't really know |
| 20:23.13 | elg | so on that recruiter posting I pasted, it's just a cold contact to me but I'm happy to say "no, but check out this really awesome other guy" on your behalf. |
| 20:23.46 | herlo | re-reads that |
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| 20:25.06 | herlo | wow, those are some serious requirements |
| 20:25.24 | herlo | I mean really, 'Fluency in the English language'? come on! |
| 20:25.31 | herlo | don't know if I can do it! |
| 20:25.37 | elg | :-) |
| 20:26.07 | herlo | is not intersted though, really. Since I'm pretty well comfortable here atm. Nagios / Cacti are not where my specialties lie either... |
| 20:26.43 | keldwud | you'd be surprised at how many native English speakers really aren't fluent in English. |
| 20:26.45 | elg | isn't sure whether living in irelend would balance out dealing with nagios |
| 20:26.54 | elg | but it might be. |
| 20:27.10 | herlo | lol |
| 20:27.21 | keldwud | I mean, take a look at facebook and myspace. I would think that one's writing ability also reflects their ability to speak clearly and succinctly |
| 20:27.22 | herlo | keldwud: no I wouldnt :) |
| 20:27.35 | keldwud | herlo - :) |
| 20:28.18 | keldwud | I'm going to have to google the word nagios |
| 20:28.57 | herlo | well, okay |
| 20:29.00 | keldwud | ahh, monitoring. When in the same context as Cactus and location, I was confurzled. |
| 20:29.50 | keldwud | I love recursive acronyms. |
| 20:30.14 | elg | what, like "not a good I/O system? |
| 20:30.54 | keldwud | that's not recursive :-p |
| 20:31.02 | elg | moose fail |
| 20:31.35 | elg | but I can't bring myself to type "nagios: a good I/O system" (even if it was trying to be an i/o system which makes no sense whatever.) |
| 20:33.13 | keldwud | Nagios Ain't Gonna Insist On Sainthood |
| 20:34.35 | elg | nagios ain't gonna instantiate our supremacy |
| 20:37.58 | sjansen | herlo: So, like I was saying, using simple numerology it is trivial to prove that not only is Palin the anti-christ, but gold bullion is the mark of the beast. |
| 20:38.11 | herlo | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:38.38 | keldwud | sjansen - you learned how to do that from Glenn Beck, didn't you? |
| 20:38.59 | keldwud | don't forget to illustrate it for us using a blackboard |
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| 21:17.54 | Jayce^ | just did something *very* evil |
| 21:18.15 | Jayce^ | introduced harleypig to the guy that does this stock photography: http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/11816712/2/istockphoto_11816712-mugshot-of-a-man-wearing-french-maid-outfit.jpg |
| 21:18.21 | Jayce^ | :-D |
| 21:24.24 | harleypig | starts digging into his leather filled hope chest ... |
| 21:25.51 | Jayce^ | harleypig: should invite sjansen along for the lineup shot |
| 21:26.16 | sjansen | ~silence Jayce^ |
| 21:26.17 | ibot | ACTION shoves an apple in Jayce^'s mouth, shoves a spit through ... well, uhm, anyway ... then builds a nice fire and starts roasting |
| 21:26.20 | harleypig | redbeard can't decide if I'm jokeing or not. |
| 21:26.41 | harleypig | oooo ... Have a PLUG geekcake calendar. |
| 21:26.50 | goozbach | it's more disturbing for me because I *KNOW* he's not joking |
| 21:26.54 | goozbach | wait |
| 21:26.56 | goozbach | remove!! |
| 21:26.58 | goozbach | back |
| 21:27.04 | goozbach | would like to recall his message |
| 21:27.18 | harleypig | :D |
| 21:28.52 | Jayce^ | wow, admissions on irc... |
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| 21:44.55 | brasto | on this page: http://wiki.debian.org/SambaDcWithLdapBackend . I'm on 'Testing the coniguration' (yes, they spelled it that way). |
| 21:45.15 | brasto | 'Log back into phpldapadmin and verify that the DomainName record exists below the root' |
| 21:45.28 | brasto | I click the plus by phpldapadmin, and there's no 'DomainName' anywhere |
| 21:45.44 | brasto | I'm also not sure where I 'create the following Samba3 Mappings under the groups OU:[[BR]] ' |
| 21:45.59 | brasto | should I try #debian for this question? |
| 21:53.19 | blendmaster1024 | whee |
| 21:53.33 | blendmaster1024 | i has a comptia cert |
| 21:54.14 | blendmaster1024 | the world must be told |
| 22:05.31 | keldwud | 'grats, blendmaster1024 |
| 22:05.41 | blendmaster1024 | thanks |
| 22:05.43 | keldwud | that reminds me that I should go get some more |
| 22:05.54 | blendmaster1024 | too late, sorta |
| 22:06.09 | blendmaster1024 | a few weeks ago they made it so that they only last 3 years |
| 22:06.10 | keldwud | too late to congratulate you or too late to get some? |
| 22:06.14 | blendmaster1024 | as opposed to lifetime |
| 22:06.20 | keldwud | oh, I've already got the lifetime A+ |
| 22:06.24 | blendmaster1024 | so you have to renew them every 3 years |
| 22:06.29 | keldwud | I was thinking of getting some of the other certs |
| 22:06.57 | keldwud | I need a competitive edge in this job market |
| 22:07.15 | blendmaster1024 | would you say that the a+ exam was hard for you, and how much experience did you have when you took it? |
| 22:07.25 | keldwud | also, if you have a current Secret clearance, you can get quite a decent job |
| 22:07.41 | blendmaster1024 | " Secret clearance" ... what? |
| 22:07.53 | keldwud | blendmaster1024 the exam was difficult because I wanted to score in the top percentile |
| 22:08.03 | keldwud | and that exam is *designed* to make you fail |
| 22:08.08 | sjansen | Having taken and passed CompTIA cert, do you think it actually means anything? If so, what? |
| 22:08.22 | blendmaster1024 | sjansen, who are you talking to? |
| 22:08.32 | keldwud | I've had a lot of experience and my experience had nothing to offer for the test, the only thing that served me well for the test was my test taking abilities |
| 22:08.55 | sjansen | Anyone who's taken a CompTIA test. |
| 22:08.58 | keldwud | sjansen - it doesn't mean anything, really. But for the industry I work in, it's usually a requirement |
| 22:09.07 | blendmaster1024 | keldwud, ...and you passed it? how did you manage that with no exp in it? |
| 22:09.41 | blendmaster1024 | sjansen, it just tells anyone you're trying to get a job from that a third party has said "he/she can do it." that's about it. |
| 22:09.59 | keldwud | blendmaster - I had a *lot* of experience before I took the test, is what I said. It's just that the experience had nothing to do with it. You learn the test to pass the test, not the content. |
| 22:10.06 | sjansen | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:10.28 | blendmaster1024 | sjansen, comptia is not a single cert, it's a cert organization |
| 22:10.29 | keldwud | sjansen - I agree, but most hiring managers don't. |
| 22:10.38 | blendmaster1024 | yeah i do too |
| 22:10.50 | blendmaster1024 | but the more certs, the more people will hire you |
| 22:11.02 | keldwud | there are some places that won't hire you if you parade your certs |
| 22:11.03 | eggyknap | I worked with too many paper tiger MCSEs to have good feelings about M$ certs, and have, probably incorrectly, allowed that bad opinion to spill over into pretty much any other cert. |
| 22:11.04 | blendmaster1024 | and i'm not even 16 yet :) |
| 22:11.25 | blendmaster1024 | keldwud, true, it's the proving your good at it that will get you hired. |
| 22:11.27 | keldwud | so just keep them someplace unobtrusive |
| 22:11.43 | blendmaster1024 | which is what most places take certs as |
| 22:11.50 | keldwud | I know xmission folk will balk at you if you bring up your certs without being prompted |
| 22:11.52 | sjansen | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:12.24 | blendmaster1024 | keldwud, not suprising, foss people seem like they'd do that |
| 22:12.54 | blendmaster1024 | sjansen, i was supposed to know that? |
| 22:13.20 | sjansen | yes |
| 22:13.52 | blendmaster1024 | that's ... insane of you |
| 22:13.54 | blendmaster1024 | ducks |
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| 22:15.01 | sjansen | *shrug* Not my fault if your thinking is too rigid to comprehend my statement. |
| 22:15.22 | blendmaster1024 | throws some water at sjansen |
| 22:15.25 | blendmaster1024 | oops |
| 22:15.28 | elg | that's what harleypig said |
| 22:15.30 | sjansen | Clearly keldwud's reading comprehsion was up to the task. |
| 22:15.34 | blendmaster1024 | that's not how you stop a flamewar |
| 22:15.46 | blendmaster1024 | INCOMING |
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| 22:15.53 | blendmaster1024 | runs laughing |
| 22:16.30 | sjansen | eggyknap is right, depending on where you're applying, some certs are worse than useless. |
| 22:16.50 | elg | now now, they're always good for kindling right? |
| 22:17.17 | sjansen | Not necessarily. Some places are only awarding PDFs or URLs. No paper. |
| 22:17.21 | Migs | http://blogs.edweek.org/edweek/District_Dossier/2010/01/sexy_words_prompt_calif_distri.html |
| 22:17.49 | eightyeight | i see nothing wrong with putting 'certifications available upon request' on the resume, and leaving it at that |
| 22:18.04 | harleypig | http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2006/09/expensive_camer.html |
| 22:18.15 | eightyeight | if they are curious, you can give them to them. if they don't care, parading them about won't do a damned thing anyway, so why bother? |
| 22:18.58 | elg | haha ""The problem for the book-banning officials is, they have to be able to read through the dictionary themselves in order to find more sex-related words," he writes." |
| 22:18.59 | blendmaster1024 | eightyeight is right and that's about how i'd do it |
| 22:20.47 | Migs | I think it's funny that schools cave into parent demands like this. The worst thing a parent can do is complain to their local politician, and they'd probably laugh in their faces, too |
| 22:21.06 | Migs | now if the dictionary SHOWED a picture of the term in question......well, I want to know which dictionary this is |
| 22:21.38 | blendmaster1024 | lol |
| 22:35.58 | blendmaster1024 | ~run |
| 22:35.58 | ibot | ACTION runs around in circles screaming "My pants are blue!!!" |
| 22:36.05 | blendmaster1024 | whee ... |
| 22:36.45 | brasto | from my experience, the comptia a+ cert doesn't do a thing in getting people hired, even when I was working in the Windows world. Most hiring managers, from my experience didn't care about it. |
| 22:37.03 | brasto | ~chuckfact |
| 22:37.04 | ibot | There is no chin under Chuck Norris Beard. There is only another fist |
| 22:38.17 | blendmaster1024 | how much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck norris? |
| 22:40.12 | brasto | as much wood as a woodchuck could chuck if a would chuck could chuck norris |
| 22:40.37 | brasto | bbl guys |
| 22:43.56 | elg | ~chuckfact |
| 22:43.57 | ibot | Chuck Norris hand is the only hand that can beat a Royal Flush |
| 23:07.30 | sjansen | Anyone have a clue what HT5 is? |
| 23:09.02 | goozbach | sjansen: context? |
| 23:09.35 | goozbach | google says guitar amp? or effects pedal |
| 23:10.05 | sjansen | It might be related to Linux and/or Oracle. |
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| 23:31.41 | sjansen | http://www.dallasobserver.com/2010-01-21/news/better-off-deadbeat-craig-cunningham-has-a-simple-solution-for-getting-bill-collectors-off-his-back-he-sues-them/ |
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