| 00:00.39 | decriptor | I'm only building fedora packages there for testing purposes and hope to push them all into koji |
| 00:02.24 | sjansen | decriptor: BTW, do you know about https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/ ? |
| 00:02.44 | sjansen | It isn't as well advertised as it could be, be pretty handy at times. |
| 00:03.05 | decriptor | sjansen: is there the latest updates? |
| 00:03.12 | decriptor | monitoring of them at least? |
| 00:03.13 | bonez2046 | decriptor: so would this work, in theory? dd if=/dev/sdc1 of=/home/scott/yvonne (with /home/scott/yvonne being on /dev/sda1 ? |
| 00:03.30 | decriptor | bonez2046: in theory |
| 00:03.43 | sjansen | Monitor updates as they're evaluated and eventually pushed or rejected. |
| 00:04.03 | decriptor | sjansen: what does EPEL stand for? |
| 00:04.17 | sjansen | Extra Packages for Enterprise Linux |
| 00:04.28 | decriptor | ah |
| 00:04.42 | decriptor | w00t! I have accerciser fedora 12 packages now |
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| 00:06.35 | bonez2046 | decriptor: so I have the context correct? I can mix and match /dev/sd?? and /home/scott/blahblah.. that's ok? |
| 00:07.06 | decriptor | bonez2046: yeah. It might be advantageous to do /home/scott/blahblah.img |
| 00:07.56 | bonez2046 | decriptor: the goal ultimately is to salvage a program on that drive.. to save enough of it to run.. I guess the fly in the ointment here is the doublespace compression. |
| 00:08.37 | decriptor | bonez2046: I don't recommend tossing the drive until after you have tested it then ;) |
| 00:15.56 | bonez2046 | hmmm thanks.. so I am using nautilus to just copy the drive contents.. over to a fat 32 partition.. that is empty.. maybe when that's done I can get update-grub to recognize it and make it bootable as a choice at boottime |
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| 01:36.11 | Reilithion | Heh, China pissed off Google. http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/01/new-approach-to-china.html |
| 02:09.19 | eightyeight | so, this is rather troubling. firefox is dns prefetching without paying attention to the proxy, even after setting network.proxy.socks_remote_dns, and setting up your proxy |
| 02:09.40 | eightyeight | even changing network.prefetch-next to false doesn't seem to be working |
| 02:10.21 | eightyeight | if i understand tha socks_remote_dns setting, all dns queries should go through the proxy, including prefetches. but, apparently, that's not the case |
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| 04:09.14 | elg | Hooray, my wireless usb stick works in linux out of the box |
| 04:09.51 | elg | but any feeling of awe you might be feeling toward me for picking a working wireless stick can be offset by the fact that I replaced the power supply when it was the case fan that was making the awful racket. |
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| 04:49.56 | levi | elg: Whoops. |
| 04:49.59 | levi | I hate fans. |
| 04:50.19 | levi | They're always making a racket. |
| 04:50.36 | elg | oh well, now i have a quieter power supply and one less fan going in the case (i didn't really need that many fans) |
| 04:50.56 | elg | not that the other psu was loud, but it was louder than this one |
| 04:56.56 | *** topic/#utah by sjansen -> logs @ http://ibot.rikers.org/#utah | I am the Key Master. Are you the Gate Keeper? |
| 04:56.59 | levi | Hrm. My myth hard drive may be having serious problems. |
| 04:59.47 | thesuperbigfrog | sjansen: You are Vince? Vince Clortho? |
| 05:02.17 | levi | Anyone familiar with using smartctl? |
| 05:06.24 | Reilithion | Good pineapple to all! |
| 05:06.38 | levi | Mmm, pineapple. |
| 05:22.36 | eightyeight | hmm. it's looking like i might be able to squeeze through college with two undergraduate degrees in mathematics at the same time |
| 05:22.39 | eightyeight | if so, that would be sweet |
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| 05:31.18 | levi | eightyeight: Why two undergrad degrees in math? |
| 05:32.18 | eightyeight | because i can. i'm a general math major with a minor in comp sci, but i was looking over my electives, and if i choos the applied courses as my electives, i would meet the requirements for the applied as well |
| 05:32.39 | eightyeight | and, i could theoretically still graduate in may 2011, as initially planned with the general |
| 05:33.27 | eightyeight | so i figure, why not? |
| 05:33.47 | Reilithion | eightyeight: Because nothing beginning with the word "theoretically" ever went as planned? |
| 05:34.07 | eightyeight | agreed |
| 05:34.38 | eightyeight | some of the classes i have left are only offered on alternate years, and i don't know if this year is on or off for what i need |
| 05:34.56 | eightyeight | but, only 6 classes left- 3 from the general and 3 electives (which could be the applied) |
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| 06:19.07 | findlay | ~sjansen |
| 06:19.08 | ibot | sjansen is one hoopy frood who really knows where his towel is |
| 06:27.54 | sinuhe | Wow |
| 07:14.51 | Reilithion | High praise from ibot. |
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| 18:16.23 | elg | decisions decisions. i have an aged computer i'm going to repurpose into a myth frontend for the time being |
| 18:16.43 | elg | it has debian, and at least its version of debian doesn't autorecognize the wireless usb stick. ubuntu does. |
| 18:16.54 | elg | it is not in use as a server anymore |
| 18:17.16 | elg | so do I reinstall with ubuntu, or figure out the wireless and keep it running its legacy debian? |
| 18:24.45 | JoshH | might as well go with ubuntu lts, unless you think you can solve the wifi issue faster than a reinstall will take |
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| 19:00.55 | elg | i can certainly solve it faster, but it'd be more of a hassle. the "me time" of a reinstall is relatively small |
| 19:03.47 | levi | Ubuntu, especially with the mythbuntu repository, is way better as a mythtv frontend. |
| 19:03.59 | levi | Just reinstall. |
| 19:04.30 | elg | mythbuntu works pretty well now? |
| 19:04.42 | elg | it was a bit of a hack first time I tried it (way back when) |
| 19:05.01 | levi | Seems to me that it works well. |
| 19:17.28 | elg | A+ |
| 19:18.50 | A- | I prefer "A" for a handle, but I get sick of seeing most lines get highlighted because they contain my nick |
| 19:22.47 | elg | almost secretly hopes that xvmc isn't good enough on this older computer and I'll have to get a vdpau capable video card |
| 19:23.25 | elg | but i really want to spend as little as possible on this box and save for a small, quiet htpc instead (like the revo) |
| 19:23.35 | A- | people are having good results with those acer revo models |
| 19:23.42 | A- | at least the version with the dual core atom cpu |
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| 20:45.37 | Sargun | Is the specfile in the RPM? |
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| 20:56.35 | sjansen | hugs git add -i |
| 20:57.01 | sinuhe | Mmmm...git... |
| 21:07.28 | sontek | goozbach: I wrote a new url shortening script for weechat that works better than the ones currently on the site if you want it |
| 21:08.08 | sontek | goozbach: http://github.com/sontek/dotfiles/blob/master/_weechat/python/autoload/tinyurl.py |
| 21:12.02 | elg | that's a rather long url for a url shortener. |
| 21:16.06 | sontek | haha, the good thing is my little plugin secretly messaged me http://is.gd/6dcAO :P |
| 21:16.26 | sontek | Its not used to shorten urls you are sending, its to shorten ones that other people send :D |
| 21:16.40 | sontek | I guess I could hook into the message send event as well though |
| 21:38.09 | Jayce^ | eggyknap: just referenced you on twitter to some postgres contracting |
| 21:42.52 | eggyknap | Jayce^++ :) |
| 21:43.30 | eggyknap | Should it pan out, I owe you a box of 9mm or something |
| 21:43.52 | Jayce^ | hehe, not sure you want to go that far, think it's a smaller contract :) |
| 21:44.07 | Jayce^ | performance tuning/debugging sounds like |
| 21:44.25 | Jayce^ | just talk to tyler (via my tweet) |
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| 22:42.25 | tensai | elg: I'm running mythbuntu. works well enough. |
| 22:43.31 | tensai | for my backend/frontend system |
| 22:43.44 | tensai | I also use mythfrontend on straight up ubuntu and those work fine too |
| 23:11.04 | elg | i think logic dictates I install mythbuntu and make the htpc the backend as well as the frontend so I only have one computer that must be on 24/7 (although the other will likely be on 24/7 most of the time anyway, it is in the guest room and it would be nice to have the option to power it down) |
| 23:11.19 | elg | alas I think extracting the large drive from lvm may be tricky |
| 23:12.15 | elg | sjansen and other lvm fanbois, if I have a pv that has a vew vg's but no vg's that span it and another pv, can I move it to a different machine without undue hassle? |
| 23:16.40 | harleypig | can someone help me with a search and replace problem I'm having in vim? |
| 23:29.35 | elg | harleypig: i'll help if you stop wearing leopard underwire. |
| 23:29.45 | elg | or if you ask your question |
| 23:31.06 | harleypig | I've got a search and replace that's acting weird. |
| 23:31.37 | elg | Jayce^ weird or harleypig weird? |
| 23:31.44 | harleypig | ... |
| 23:31.51 | harleypig | not sure :> |
| 23:31.55 | harleypig | sorry, doing too many things at once. |
| 23:32.08 | harleypig | basically, it works the first time just fine |
| 23:32.26 | harleypig | but each time it's used after that the replace part is doubled |
| 23:32.46 | harleypig | by this point its adding about 20 lines instead of the 2 its supposed to have. |
| 23:33.06 | elg | what is the syntax you're using? |
| 23:33.15 | unum | sound like a greed problem |
| 23:33.26 | unum | and you're working backwards...... |
| 23:33.32 | harleypig | It's a fairly big one, want me to paste it in a pm? |
| 23:33.37 | elg | sure |
| 23:33.45 | elg | if it incriminates sjansen |
| 23:33.56 | harleypig | :D |
| 23:34.29 | harleypig | unum: I'm not sure how it would be a greed problem, it's the replace part, not the search part that's doing wonky stuff. |
| 23:35.16 | elg | and how are you executing it? at the : prompt? |
| 23:35.29 | unum | if you are using back references it could be a greed problem |
| 23:35.38 | harleypig | elg: yeah |
| 23:35.51 | unum | though then I guess it would only match once..... |
| 23:36.17 | harleypig | unum: I am, but how would greed be causing duplication of the entire replace part multiple times? |
| 23:37.00 | unum | now I think about it I guess it really couldn't since you are only replacing what you match anyways |
| 23:37.07 | unum | now multiple back references..... |
| 23:37.14 | unum | I have no idea |
| 23:37.17 | unum | I'll shut up |
| 23:38.05 | harleypig | unum: want me to paste it to in a pm? |
| 23:38.16 | unum | sure |
| 23:44.54 | sjansen | elg: Should be pretty easy to do. pvmove, vgreduce, pvremove |
| 23:45.20 | elg | sjansen: huh? I want to keep all the data |
| 23:45.40 | elg | I just want to stick it in a dumptruck and cart it across the internets of my living room. |
| 23:45.44 | harleypig | AH HAH! |
| 23:45.52 | sjansen | I guess I didn't understand your question. Could you restate it? |
| 23:46.02 | elg | ok, here it is in concrete form |
| 23:46.06 | harleypig | ~ is the problem. |
| 23:46.43 | tensai | harleypig: if ~ is the problem, rm -rf ~ is the solution |
| 23:47.36 | harleypig | starts typing in his terminal window |
| 23:47.40 | harleypig | waaaaiit a minute! |
| 23:48.09 | tensai | sjansen: I think elg just wants to move a PV from one system to another |
| 23:48.09 | harleypig | is trying to figure out what ~ means in a replace part of search and replace in vim |
| 23:48.16 | elg | gwythaint uses lvm. has 2 drives. big drive hosts 2 vg's: myth and av |
| 23:48.21 | elg | tensai is correct. |
| 23:48.31 | tensai | has never tried though |
| 23:48.36 | elg | now I want to move the big drive to falcon. |
| 23:48.48 | sjansen | Two VGs? Not LVs? |
| 23:48.51 | elg | i don't want to lose the data, especially the data in av (the myth partition is no big deal). |
| 23:49.26 | elg | hmm. I think I misspoke. it's one vg in the system with two LVs on the big drive. I think. |
| 23:50.08 | sjansen | tensai: Moving a PV doesn't make much sense. Moving a disk makes sense. Moving a VG or LV makes sense. Moving a PV doesn't. |
| 23:50.39 | elg | isn't PV == disk for most practical purposes? |
| 23:50.45 | elg | hence the "physical volume" |
| 23:51.08 | tensai | elg: that's what I meant. I assumed you were going to physically move the disk. |
| 23:51.30 | elg | righto. my question was directed at sjansen. |
| 23:53.48 | sjansen | Yes, but while it makes sense to move a disk that is entirely independent, it doesn't make sense to move a PV unless it hasn't been assigned to a VG yet, in which case it's barely a PV. |
| 23:53.58 | elg | in short, I have a disk with a bunch of data I want to move, but that disk is embedded in lvm on the current host and I don't have enough room to move the data off of the disk (nor do I really want to) |
| 23:54.45 | sjansen | Are both disks part of the VG? |
| 23:54.51 | elg | i believe so yes |
| 23:55.08 | sjansen | Then it's all or nothing until you split them. |
| 23:55.54 | elg | and so the famed flexibility and make-your-life-easierness of lvm is where? |
| 23:56.22 | sjansen | Silly elg, you never remove working disks from a server. |
| 23:56.52 | elg | obviously :) |
| 23:56.52 | sjansen | Storage requirements always increase, especially if you let a DBA anywhere near the system. |
| 23:57.12 | elg | but even when DBAs are involved, sometimes you move data from one server to another. |
| 23:59.14 | elg | ok, so bantering aside, I can't do it. I need to move all of the vg to one disk somehow |
| 23:59.58 | elg | i think the big disk has enough free space (esp. if I delete stale myth recordings) to accomodate the root fs. so I could free up the small disk, get it out of the vg, then make it into a new vg or non-lvm disk |