| 00:12.00 | sjansen | There's third party software for Windows to get it to authenticate against LDAP too. We used to use it before switching to Kerberos. |
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| 01:54.26 | eightyeight | question for the network gurus: i hava a virtual machine running on a kvm hypervisor |
| 01:54.39 | eightyeight | the hypervisor can ping anything under the 192.170.0.0/24 network |
| 01:54.57 | eightyeight | the virtual machine can only ping other virtual machines under 192.170.0.0/24 and the host it's running on |
| 01:55.15 | eightyeight | however, it cannot ping any other ips under that network that are not VMs |
| 01:55.20 | eightyeight | what am i missing? |
| 02:02.22 | eightyeight | so, it's looking like it can only ping hosts that are managed by rhev. any hosts outside of rhev, the vm can't ping |
| 02:02.25 | eightyeight | but, the host can |
| 02:02.35 | eightyeight | firewall and selinux aren't getting in the way |
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| 02:38.22 | fugue88 | eightyeight: ip_forwarding=1 on the hypervisor, hypervisor's ip as a gateway on the vms. If that doesn't do it, I dunno. |
| 02:39.04 | fugue88 | Hypervisor might need something extra in it's route table, but it should probably already be putting it there on its own. |
| 02:39.13 | fugue88 | You could always check that easily enough. |
| 02:39.50 | eightyeight | yeah. i've checked the routing table. seems solid |
| 02:39.58 | eightyeight | i'll check ip_forwarding |
| 02:40.45 | eightyeight | ip_forward on the hypervisor was it |
| 02:40.49 | eightyeight | fugue88: thx |
| 02:40.57 | fugue88 | Cool. |
| 02:43.17 | eightyeight | now, next question. there's a song about mindy lou and her 'ju ju' (or something like that) |
| 02:43.39 | eightyeight | i heard it on campus today, but don't know the artist. really loved the song, but for the life of me, can't find it via google |
| 02:43.48 | eightyeight | anyone familiar with it? |
| 02:44.30 | Nafai | never heard of it |
| 02:44.31 | eightyeight | i remember the words 'devil', 'angel' and 'confused' in the lyrics |
| 02:44.55 | eightyeight | could be 'ju ju' or 'choo choo' or something. i couldn't make it out clearly |
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| 03:08.42 | Sargun | huh |
| 03:09.10 | Sargun | they play something other than gospel on BYU's campus? |
| 03:09.12 | Sargun | is surprised |
| 03:10.21 | eightyeight | i don't know about byu |
| 03:13.40 | Sargun | oh. |
| 03:13.42 | Sargun | uou? |
| 03:19.36 | eightyeight | are you trying to guess the school i'm attending? |
| 03:19.49 | eightyeight | http://weber.edu |
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| 07:55.08 | sontek | p-p-p-p-oker face |
| 08:34.54 | Nafai | sontek: seen the south park version? or the mashup with smells like teen spirit? |
| 08:38.38 | sontek | Nafai: Haven't seen the southpark, saw the nirvana one though |
| 08:38.53 | sontek | Nafai: I was just watching the westboro parody about god :P |
| 08:39.02 | sontek | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:39.14 | Nafai | http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/254171/ |
| 08:39.15 | sontek | http://news.softpedia.com/news/Westboro-Baptist-Church-Continues-God-Hates-Lady-Gaga-Campaign-131073.shtml |
| 08:39.22 | sontek | http://tinyurl.com/ye6xeg7 |
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| 14:03.46 | eightyeight | why isn't google exporting email, and other contact info to hcard to logged in users when visiting a profile page? |
| 14:03.57 | eightyeight | case in point: http://google.com/profiles/aaron.toponce |
| 14:04.09 | eightyeight | all it has is name, org and url |
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| 16:53.34 | beelzebob | sontek: haha thanks for that link. ("...God hates you...") awesome |
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| 18:20.41 | sjansen | Ubuntu "Membership": Incentive to contribute, or a huge "screw you" to less active community members? |
| 18:21.38 | sontek | its pretty easy to become an Ubuntu member |
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| 18:22.20 | JoshH | neither |
| 18:26.01 | harleypig | any cvs experts/guru active here? |
| 18:34.08 | sjansen | Once upon a time I knew CVS pretty well. What's up? |
| 18:36.50 | tensai | jsmith: I saw some smoked almonds at the store yesterday and just had to try them |
| 18:37.19 | jsmith | tensai: My favorite are the chili and lime smoked almonds :-) |
| 18:37.23 | tensai | pretty good. I'm a sucker for smoked anything though. |
| 18:37.24 | jsmith | tensai: What did you think? |
| 18:38.27 | tensai | jsmith: chili and lime smoke, or smoked plus chilis and limes? |
| 18:38.35 | Jayce^ | jsmith: I like the chipotle smoked almonds... mmmm |
| 18:38.54 | jsmith | tensai: Smoked + Chili + Lime |
| 18:38.57 | Jayce^ | tensai: usually a flavoring rub in my experience |
| 18:38.59 | jsmith | Jayce^: Sounds awesome |
| 18:40.05 | Jayce^ | I'll have to try putting some in next time I run the smoker |
| 18:40.23 | Jayce^ | I did ribs at the in laws last week. that had this old little electric smoker.. |
| 18:40.47 | Jayce^ | the element couldnt' get warm enough to actually cook in the smoker, could only generate a little smoke flavor, then you had to move it out :/ |
| 18:41.14 | tensai | for the winter I've moved to simple braising. had to put the smoker in the shed. |
| 18:41.39 | tensai | still, the pulled pork on sunday turned out good |
| 18:43.30 | goozbach | hmmm smoked meat! |
| 18:43.31 | Jayce^ | yeah, I finished my ribs by braising too.. good, but not quite as deep of a flavor.. |
| 18:43.34 | Jayce^ | were tender though |
| 18:44.04 | goozbach | I smoked/grill baked a loaf of white mountian bread the other day |
| 18:44.08 | goozbach | it was tasty |
| 18:44.10 | Jayce^ | nice |
| 18:45.28 | goozbach | it was supposed to be just grill baked, but the coals which I was using burnt through the alumimum cakepan which I had my hot water in. |
| 18:45.47 | goozbach | it caused three coals to smoke instead of cook |
| 18:46.00 | goozbach | it was a delish accident |
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| 18:48.08 | Jayce^ | jsmith: one of my gifts was "munchkin booty", I now have 5 versions :) |
| 18:48.11 | Jayce^ | we gotta play again |
| 18:50.09 | harleypig | sjansen: nm, figured out how to do what I wanted (basically make it so that any user could commit as themselves instead of who the source was checked out as) |
| 18:54.55 | sjansen | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3385088017824733336# |
| 18:56.47 | sjansen | Whoa! Greg Kroah-Hartman is a Gentoo developer?! |
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| 18:58.07 | sontek | sjansen: hes employed by novell |
| 18:58.39 | sontek | well was last time I heard. |
| 18:58.58 | sjansen | sontek: I know. Which is why I was surprised he described himself as a Gentoo developer. |
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| 19:06.30 | sjansen | Heh. Google's 5th largest kernel contributor is doing "spelling fixes" and got in trouble when his boss found out he was contributing. |
| 19:09.59 | Migs | probably looking for something he can slide into once Novell tanks |
| 19:12.58 | sinuhe | Migs: Do you expect Novell to tank? |
| 19:13.59 | Migs | Yeah, pretty much |
| 19:14.14 | Migs | at the very least they won't be as big as they used to be |
| 19:14.29 | sinuhe | Migs: Why do you expect them to tank? |
| 19:14.31 | Migs | they'll focus more on certain projects |
| 19:14.53 | sjansen | No, just continue it's gradual decline until its legacy products are mostly gone, at which point its Linux business will be large enough to visibly power growth. |
| 19:14.58 | Migs | because they're tanking right now? |
| 19:15.03 | Migs | they've laid off hundreds? |
| 19:15.14 | sjansen | s/tanking/shrinking/ |
| 19:15.33 | Migs | abandoning some products, closing departments, etc. |
| 19:15.46 | Migs | refocusing efforts more suitable to their now-smaller business size? |
| 19:15.50 | sjansen | Most people equate tanking with sudden decline, whereas Novell's is gradual but inescapable. |
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| 19:30.05 | tensai | novell was the same exact way 10 years ago when I worked there. they're a company without any focus, switching from path to path and abandoning whatever last year's purchase was. |
| 19:31.02 | tensai | layoffs are the norm. my wife's cousin's spouse has been layed off and rehired a dozen times. dunno why he doesn't try something new. |
| 19:31.44 | sinuhe | tensai: Well stated. Buy UNIX, sell it; buy WordPerfect, sell it; buy AppArmor, fire the developers; buy SUSE/Ximian... |
| 19:32.46 | sinuhe | I wouldn't want to work there for the very reason of watching the layoffs over the years. |
| 19:32.56 | tensai | sinuhe: and that's just the notable ones. I recall many other smaller mergers and acquisitions. |
| 19:33.26 | tensai | I do know people who've survived there for decades but I couldn't do it |
| 19:33.36 | tensai | too much like living in a dilbert cartoon |
| 19:34.27 | tensai | whistles as he deletes email accounts |
| 19:35.22 | JoshH | ya, i really never understood why so many people thought novell was a cool company |
| 19:35.57 | fozzmoo | Up until the late 90s, Netware was the most advanced network operating system in existence. |
| 19:36.02 | tensai | I will say the benefits were the best I've ever had |
| 19:36.12 | fozzmoo | Then, for some strange reason, people wanted a GUI on their server. |
| 19:37.09 | fozzmoo | It still baffles me a bit. |
| 19:37.26 | sjansen | I'd be willing to work for Novell, but I'd factor the expensive of probably being layed off into my required starting wage. |
| 19:37.26 | tensai | I could never get past the fact that when netware booted the first thing you saw was a DR DOS welcome screen |
| 19:40.04 | sjansen | http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2010/01/05/monty-widenius-wants-another-billion-dollars-should-we-help-him/ |
| 19:44.47 | jsmith | sjansen: No! |
| 19:44.51 | jsmith | ducks and hides |
| 19:48.20 | fozzmoo | I'm all for the free market, in this case, the open source community, deciding who lives and dies. |
| 19:48.35 | fozzmoo | Nobody, not even MySQL, is "too big to fail." |
| 19:48.56 | fozzmoo | By "who" I mean, which projects, not people. :) |
| 19:49.41 | sjansen | fozzmoo: Your agenda is showing again. Nobody has ever said anything even approximating "MySQL is too big to fail". |
| 19:49.58 | fozzmoo | Monty is. :) |
| 19:50.05 | fozzmoo | He wants a bailout. :) |
| 19:50.16 | sjansen | *sigh* |
| 19:50.35 | sjansen | decides to let fozzmoo dodder on down his single track |
| 19:50.51 | fozzmoo | Thanks sjansen. |
| 19:50.51 | tensai | ~teabag sjansen |
| 19:50.52 | ibot | ACTION squats |
| 19:51.22 | sjansen | tensai: I'm going to assume that is _not_ what you meant to do. |
| 19:52.44 | tensai | sjansen: yeah not really. was trying to reference the teabaggers, who I always laugh at for picking such a ridiculous name. |
| 19:53.04 | fozzmoo | They didn't pick that name. |
| 19:53.26 | fozzmoo | MSNBC awarded that title to the Tea Party attendees. |
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| 20:02.09 | JoshH | they shouldn't have even been called tea parties |
| 20:02.12 | JoshH | since there was no tea dumping |
| 20:02.33 | JoshH | and most people at the utah tea party think tea is evil anyway |
| 20:03.04 | sontek | in highschool when we teabagged someone it was much more fun than what these new teabaggers are doing |
| 20:03.24 | JoshH | you stopped after high school? |
| 20:03.41 | sjansen | ~teabag sontek |
| 20:03.42 | ibot | ACTION invites sontek to join in yet another mindless gripe session |
| 20:03.43 | sontek | JoshH: haha, I like to pretend I matured after hs, sshhh |
| 20:04.20 | JoshH | hehe |
| 20:05.20 | JoshH | anyway ya, i'd have a lot more respect for the teabaggers if they A) didn't happen to finally get fed up with the government right after obama was sworn in, and B) actually dumped tea into a harbor |
| 20:05.44 | sontek | thats a waste of good tea though, no one wants salty tea |
| 20:05.58 | sontek | now if they would've dumped it into Lake Michigan... mmm |
| 20:08.36 | JoshH | i'm surprised siliconmechanics hasn't been mentioned in the supermicro thread |
| 20:08.43 | JoshH | those guys are awesome |
| 20:09.10 | sjansen | Of course they discovered it just after Obama was sworn in! He took all their guns away! |
| 20:09.33 | sjansen | No... wait... that hasn't happened. |
| 20:09.42 | sjansen | Must've been TARP! |
| 20:10.04 | sjansen | Wait... that was the Bush administration's parting gift to the country. |
| 20:10.28 | sjansen | No, his sin was much more heinous. |
| 20:10.43 | sjansen | He invited Oprah to the inauguration. |
| 20:11.35 | fozzmoo | decides to let sjansen dodder on down his single track |
| 20:12.12 | sjansen | fozzmoo: Ha! Jokes on you! I'm too unstable to stick to a single track. |
| 20:14.47 | sjansen | You have to admit, though, that's it's rather galling that Drug benefits for old people who like to vote Republican was perfectly acceptable to most of the party. |
| 20:15.13 | bonez2046 | do any of you know what would cause a loud popping, whenever I hit certain key combinations? I notice now that pulseaudio starts running when I boot up, even when I am not playing any audio.. |
| 20:15.15 | sjansen | Whereas health care for poorer people who might just decide to vote Democrat is irresponsible. |
| 20:16.29 | JoshH | well, hatch does fly around in drug company jets |
| 20:18.35 | Nafai | Or any health care reforms must have a balanced budget in order to pass |
| 20:18.55 | Nafai | But any military actions in the "war on terror" do not |
| 20:18.57 | Nafai | sheesh |
| 20:19.32 | fozzmoo | "War On Terror" is so 2008. |
| 20:19.39 | Jayce^ | *snicker*... balance budget.... |
| 20:20.01 | fozzmoo | It's the "Overseas Contingency Operation" now, didn't you hear? |
| 20:20.10 | sjansen | To be fair, expecting health care to be budget neutral is much more reasonable that expecting war to be budget neutral. |
| 20:20.39 | fozzmoo | is surprised progressives didn't declare war on healthcare. |
| 20:20.49 | bonez2046 | Obama is so ashamed of Bush.. I don't know why he hasn't yet order the Whitehouse demolished and rebuilt.... Obama style.. |
| 20:21.12 | Nafai | sjansen: True, but the right health care bill (not sure this one is it) would have a greater and more positive effect on the American people than the wars have/will |
| 20:21.17 | fozzmoo | goes to get some sustenance |
| 20:21.48 | Jayce^ | is assembling a very messy meatball sub at his desk.... I see no chance of problems happening |
| 20:22.06 | Nafai | heh |
| 20:22.08 | fozzmoo | Nafai: unless it's a war that protects the freedom of American citizens, right? |
| 20:22.27 | sjansen | bonez2046 is so ashamed to be American, he's surprised he has yet moved to Mexico and tried to long distance collect prank call the Whitehouse |
| 20:22.38 | Jayce^ | hey, don't worry about freedoms fozzmoo, we've got interpol now, with no need to respect the 4th ammendment |
| 20:22.40 | Nafai | Sorry, I have my doubts that these are anywhere close to effective in doing so |
| 20:22.57 | fozzmoo | Nafai: I agree in most parts with you. |
| 20:23.02 | Nafai | In fact, I don't know of a war since World War II that has |
| 20:23.08 | bonez2046 | sjansen: not sure I follow but.. whatevuh |
| 20:23.21 | fozzmoo | Nafai: The "cold war"? |
| 20:23.23 | Nafai | (though I won't be firm on that, a bit shaky on some of my history) |
| 20:23.35 | Jayce^ | Nafai: and yet many would say WWII absolutely wasn't that |
| 20:23.42 | Nafai | probably not |
| 20:23.48 | sjansen | bonez2046: It's called parody. I decided to respond to your incoherence with equal and opposite incoherence. |
| 20:23.49 | Nafai | that's why I wasn't firm :) |
| 20:24.22 | Nafai | I got called trivial non-interventionalist a while back by a conservative relative |
| 20:24.44 | Nafai | After I looked up what the going definition of that is, I couldn't help but agree |
| 20:24.53 | bonez2046 | sjansen: thanks for the literary review.. I was a but rusty.. on the notion of a parody |
| 20:24.56 | Nafai | shrugs |
| 20:25.03 | Jayce^ | stirs up the pot more, and wonders out loud why we *never* get the mandated accounting on the contents of Ft. Knox :) |
| 20:25.19 | Nafai | that would be interesting! |
| 20:25.29 | sjansen | looks at Jayce^'s pot and yawns |
| 20:25.37 | bonez2046 | and sorry if I offended our regime's supreme leader in any way |
| 20:25.45 | Jayce^ | technially congress has been required to do that for *years*.. they never do :) |
| 20:26.04 | Jayce^ | *one time* they had a couple of people sworn to secrecy sign that they counted it all.. |
| 20:26.35 | sjansen | bonez2046: If you're so ashamed America elected Obama, what are you doing wasting time on #utah. You should be applying for Canadian residency! |
| 20:26.36 | bonez2046 | prolly no more gold there! |
| 20:26.49 | Nafai | Jayce^: I assume I wouldn't be suprised the amount of things that congress is "technically required to do but never do" |
| 20:26.58 | Nafai | sjansen: But they are socialists! |
| 20:27.04 | fozzmoo | Nafai: Like... uphold the constitution. |
| 20:27.38 | bonez2046 | I voted, so I get to complain, but based on today here, I wont' complain here any more.. sorry that I said anything |
| 20:27.51 | fozzmoo | bonez2046: heh. |
| 20:27.58 | bonez2046 | sorry I affected your sensibilities, sjansen.. honestly |
| 20:28.06 | fozzmoo | sensibilities?! Wow. |
| 20:28.17 | Nafai | people here have those? |
| 20:28.27 | bonez2046 | ok, hurt feelings.. which is a lame way to describe |
| 20:28.40 | sjansen | fozzmoo: Preach it brother! I'm getting tired of living in anarcho-syndicalism. Miss the good old days when the rule of law meant you didn't have to worry about being dragged out of your bed by the Stasi. |
| 20:28.42 | bonez2046 | anyway, I love America and am glad to live here.. |
| 20:28.43 | unum | so what do you think is an appropriate miniumum requirement for high school technology education? |
| 20:29.02 | fozzmoo | is boggled by unum |
| 20:29.23 | Nafai | unum: Competency in Haskell Programming |
| 20:29.25 | unum | I haven't been following the conversation |
| 20:29.29 | unum | I just joined |
| 20:30.35 | unum | this is partly fueled by an article linked from /. talking about how only computer people know computers |
| 20:30.38 | sjansen | Things were so much better in the 80's when everyone wore hammer pants, memorized the bill of rights, and the government didn't get involved in rescuing financial institutions. |
| 20:30.42 | sjansen | Wait... |
| 20:30.47 | unum | I'd like to see a section on bug writing.... |
| 20:31.09 | fozzmoo | Hammer pants were 1990s |
| 20:32.26 | sjansen | No, I guess we'll have to go back to the 70's to find a government that respected constitutional assignment of powers like the declaration of war. |
| 20:32.34 | sjansen | Hmmmm.... |
| 20:32.52 | Jayce^ | nope, well before that :) |
| 20:32.56 | Jayce^ | but sjansen knows my opinion there :) |
| 20:33.21 | Jayce^ | so, on another note, anybody in Orem area need to rent a condo? |
| 20:33.37 | sjansen | Maybe the 60's then? Back when the government's police forces respected constitutional limits on how they investigated citizens. |
| 20:33.41 | Jayce^ | ~2200' |
| 20:33.55 | sjansen | Nope, that's not it either... |
| 20:33.59 | sjansen | The 50'2? |
| 20:34.02 | sjansen | 40's? |
| 20:34.21 | sjansen | Well, geez, seems we've been living in tyranny for generations. :-( |
| 20:34.38 | Jayce^ | sjansen: oh yeah, 40's, where government limits, personal privacy, etc... you know, back when we didn't torture 'enemy combatants' etc |
| 20:34.41 | Jayce^ | :) |
| 20:35.41 | Jayce^ | of course financially we could look to the 1900s, back when there was no income tax, and the government had so much surplus it went on a buliding spree to spend /some/ of the money it had |
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| 20:36.28 | sjansen | Jayce^: What are you talking about? Disrespect for the rule of law is a modern innovation. It started shortly after Obama faked his swearing in during the inauguration. |
| 20:36.30 | Jayce^ | that one actually did happen right :) |
| 20:37.16 | Jayce^ | sjansen: right, that's what we all just magically believe now... in fact, it's only because we're racist... |
| 20:37.57 | sjansen | Clearly. |
| 20:38.05 | unum | glenn back told me none of this stuff happened before |
| 20:38.50 | Jayce^ | unum: of course that's what he told you.. because he's just part of the conspiracy |
| 20:40.12 | TehLaser | Prohibition might be a candidate, when we actually amended the constitution to give the feds more power, instead of just claiming they had it all along since booze might cross state lines, even if it didn't actually do so. |
| 20:41.02 | sjansen | I heard that Glen Beck was transported into the future by the KGB to become a mole and steal our nuclear secrets. |
| 20:41.46 | sontek | Hmm all this talk about politics is boring me, lets talk about the Python GIL |
| 20:42.05 | levi | Python sucks. |
| 20:42.13 | levi | Let's talk about Perl 6 instead! |
| 20:42.19 | TehLaser | Semi-protect the constitution! Put a GIL on it! |
| 20:42.50 | tensai | protect the constitution! put it in a room filled with pythons. |
| 20:43.15 | levi | That'll be National Treasure III. |
| 20:44.48 | Jayce^ | mmm, Perl 6, just a couple months now |
| 20:45.11 | levi | s/months/years/ |
| 20:45.29 | Jayce^ | nah, been running it for a bit, it officially comes out in a couple months |
| 20:45.43 | jsmith | still thinks that PHP 6 (for better or worse) will have better adoption than Perl 6 |
| 20:45.50 | sjansen | Rakudo 1.0 is a useful subset of Perl 6. You're both right. |
| 20:45.55 | jsmith | (I just had to stir the pot a bit more) |
| 20:46.41 | Jayce^ | jsmith: at first for sure, just look at the perl 4 to 5 process, years.. it's a big switch |
| 20:46.47 | sjansen | The complete Perl 6 will probably still require a couple more years of refinement. |
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| 20:47.29 | sjansen | As for adoption: Who cares? Perl 6 is sexy and I for one am looking forward to adding to my toolbelt. |
| 20:48.02 | sjansen | If more crappy developers flock to PHP 6 than Perl 6, well that's just a bonus. |
| 20:48.41 | Jayce^ | sjansen: wait, stop agreeing with me, can't tell when you're just being full of crap for the fun of it :-p |
| 20:49.44 | jsmith | Jayce^: Well said! |
| 20:49.51 | sontek | But Guido is so much cooler than Larry |
| 20:50.00 | Jayce^ | laughs. |
| 20:50.53 | Jayce^ | ahh darwin.. http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/01/06/afghan.terrorists.killed/index.html?eref=igoogle_cnn |
| 20:50.55 | sontek | Exhibit one: http://savasplace.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/larry-wall.jpg |
| 20:51.02 | sontek | Exhibit two: http://www.hephesto.com/agrega/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/guido_van_rossum_oscon_2006.jpg |
| 20:51.17 | Jayce^ | larry rocks the fanny pack too.. serious win |
| 20:51.31 | sontek | Damn... I am a fan of fanny packs |
| 20:51.37 | sontek | I might have to become a perl guy |
| 20:51.43 | Jayce^ | dude's always got whatever you need on him... |
| 20:52.47 | jsmith | Jayce^: Is that where he carries all his extra operators? |
| 20:53.01 | Jayce^ | nah, need a full pack for that :) |
| 20:54.28 | sjansen | Wow, Kevin Trudeau is my new hero. |
| 20:55.02 | sjansen | A co-worker was just reading from "Natural Cures 'They' Don't Want You To Know About" |
| 20:55.23 | sjansen | The man is an ultra-troll. |
| 20:56.05 | sjansen | He has apparently dedicated his entire life to an elaborate hoax, never publicly dropping his act. |
| 20:56.35 | sjansen | The sheer force of will it must require to present such patent insanity with a straight face! |
| 20:56.44 | sjansen | Magnificent! |
| 20:56.51 | sjansen | Inspirational! |
| 20:58.17 | Migs | did you tell your co-worker this? |
| 20:58.31 | sontek | Thats how I live my life |
| 20:58.41 | sontek | I really love windows and microsoft, but pretend to use Linux |
| 20:59.12 | sontek | this is my first time publicly admitting this, feels good to get that off my chest |
| 20:59.43 | sjansen | Migs: Yup. He decided to give me the book as a Christmas present. |
| 20:59.44 | Migs | one time my friend was over at my house and he saw Hank Haneegraf's "Evolution's Fatal Flaws" anti-evolution book on my bookshelf. He was anxious to read it. I thought about telling him that I only had it because I was wrote a point-by-point critique and refutation of it for my biological anthroplogy class, but I ended up not telling him and just let him borrow it. |
| 20:59.57 | Migs | Some people are already set in their ways, and look for anything to validate it |
| 21:00.17 | Migs | s/because I was/because I/ |
| 21:01.00 | jsmith | Migs: And the internet makes a wonderful echo chamber, doesn't it? |
| 21:01.21 | Migs | oh, I'm quite happy talking to no one in particular |
| 21:01.50 | Migs | in fact, you all might as well not be here, and I'd still be rambling the same things to myself |
| 21:03.07 | sjansen | Migs: Someone has already gone through the book and helpfully highlighted the more enjoyable sections. |
| 21:03.31 | Jayce^ | Migs: I think we've experienced that many times from you |
| 21:03.33 | Jayce^ | :-p |
| 21:03.51 | sontek | I recommend everyone read: http://www.amazon.com/Illustrated-Stories-Bible-Paul-Farrell/dp/1578849225 |
| 21:03.52 | sjansen | For example: "Researchers have concluded that speaking the correct form of words and thinking the correct thoughts actually changes a person's DNA." |
| 21:03.57 | sontek | one of my fav books I got last year |
| 21:04.34 | Migs | lol I love that cover |
| 21:04.47 | tensai | sontek: elisha and the two bears is one of my favorites |
| 21:05.03 | tensai | two she bears, even |
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| 21:05.49 | fozzmoo | ~cheer neybar |
| 21:05.50 | ibot | Three cheers for neybar! Hip hip Hurray! Hip hip Hurray! Hip hip Hurray! |
| 21:06.01 | sontek | ~hua neybar |
| 21:06.02 | sjansen | Or: "Science cannot see or explain how magnets work. However, you can easily see the effects of the magnetic field. Science cannot explain how satellites can beam electromagnetic energy that can pass through steel, be picked up by a radio transmitter and magically turn into music." |
| 21:06.50 | Sargun | .. |
| 21:07.10 | sjansen | Clearly Mr. Trudeau has ascended to a new plane of troll-dom. |
| 21:07.35 | goozbach | I have a new hero |
| 21:07.47 | goozbach | as my old hero has apparently fallen off the face of the internet |
| 21:08.46 | tensai | sjansen: that's just awesome |
| 21:08.51 | Sargun | goozbach, Me, really? |
| 21:08.58 | Jayce^ | goozbach: no, I'm still here |
| 21:09.14 | Sargun | Jayce^, shutup, I'm his new hero. |
| 21:09.31 | Jayce^ | you do realize I can kick you.... |
| 21:09.53 | Migs | trust me, he'd be doing you a favor |
| 21:10.19 | Sargun | hides |
| 21:10.43 | Sargun | bluehost is only 2 years old? |
| 21:11.10 | Sargun | nevermind, 3... |
| 21:11.14 | Sargun | RegDate: 2007-01-09 |
| 21:11.49 | Jayce^ | well, the brand, existed before that |
| 21:11.53 | sontek | I use prgmr for hosting, they are pretty good, a little informal |
| 21:12.21 | Jayce^ | yeah, I don't think BH hits the needs of *most* of the people in here |
| 21:13.06 | sontek | Jayce^: fix that! |
| 21:13.18 | Jayce^ | nah, no desire whatsoever to do that :) |
| 21:14.37 | Jayce^ | hrm, just getting 'wizards' in from netflix... will need to make sure the kids don't get the disc and think it's a cartoon for them :) |
| 21:14.58 | sjansen | demands that Jayce^ bend over backward to make him a customer |
| 21:15.32 | sjansen | promises to be an absolute delight as a customer |
| 21:15.44 | levi | Ha ha. |
| 21:15.44 | Jayce^ | same QOS as a friend? no thanks |
| 21:15.46 | Jayce^ | :-p |
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| 21:29.27 | harleypig | anyone know how I can get today's commits from cvs? especially, my commits? |
| 21:32.42 | sinuhe | Commits for existing repo/root can be done with cvs update -Pd. To specify today's commits only, use -D. |
| 21:33.02 | harleypig | sorry ... didn't splain myself well enough |
| 21:33.24 | harleypig | I want a list of the commits I've done today, not update my local source. |
| 21:33.36 | sinuhe | List in logs, diffs? |
| 21:33.53 | harleypig | I can do a cvs log but that just does a massive dump. |
| 21:34.13 | harleypig | And I don't want to see the actual changes, just which files I've committed. |
| 21:34.21 | harleypig | and my comments, if I made any |
| 21:38.06 | sjansen | harleypig: cvs history -D ? |
| 21:38.50 | harleypig | hmmm |
| 21:39.12 | sinuhe | cvs log has several log options, including -d for date, and others for restricting the information displayed. |
| 21:39.22 | harleypig | I doubt the history file has been setup ... but I'll look into it |
| 21:39.34 | sinuhe | Look for ^log options in the man page. |
| 21:39.41 | harleypig | yeah, but cvs log -d 2010-01-06 gives me stuff back to August |
| 21:39.51 | sinuhe | You can specify a range with -d |
| 21:40.09 | sinuhe | <d is how the man page expresses it. |
| 21:40.18 | sinuhe | or >d |
| 21:41.39 | sjansen | harleypig: Perhaps it's time to switch to git? |
| 21:42.26 | levi | So, how come Rush calls himself 'Doctor of Democracy'? I thought the party line was that democracy was bad, we're not a democracy, and the founding fathers didn't want a democracy? |
| 21:43.59 | sjansen | Alliteration over ideals. |
| 21:44.04 | TehLaser | levi: hush you. Oh, and stop suing the Palins. |
| 21:45.20 | sjansen | Alliteration over ideals equals slippy slope to tyranny? |
| 21:45.49 | TehLaser | no, that's the slipperly slope to socialism, silly! |
| 21:46.43 | sjansen | Or was that "Rise (of Palin) over run(ning for VP) equals rate change (to government spending)"? |
| 21:47.50 | sjansen | Political math confuses me so much. |
| 21:48.13 | sjansen | All I know for sure is Ron Paul never would have let George Bush steal Florida from him. |
| 21:50.27 | TehLaser | Political calculus is all fun and games, until you get to integration. Then school gets difficult. |
| 21:52.33 | levi | My cousin just updated his facebook status to say he was "happy to be listening to America's truth detector". Someone responded, "Who dat?" and he answered, "The Doctor of Democracy". |
| 21:53.11 | levi | My cousin is a nice guy, but for some reason talk of politics turns him into a bit of an ass. |
| 21:55.23 | TehLaser | 'tis a common ailment, really. |
| 21:57.44 | unum | ya, that ailment causes a lot of problems in my relationships |
| 21:58.34 | harleypig | sjansen: yeah, like switching to git is going to happen ... that requires change |
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| 22:02.03 | sjansen | I don't have relationships, just sycophants and opportunities to spread the gospel of Anne Coulter. |
| 22:07.19 | jsmith | MySQL 0-day? |
| 22:07.24 | jsmith | blinks |
| 22:08.09 | sjansen | jsmith: URL? |
| 22:09.01 | jsmith | http://isc.sans.org/diary.html?storyid=7900&rss |
| 22:31.01 | thesuperbigfrog | rewriting a perl script in java feels like using a wheelbarrow with a square wheel to do a job that was previously done with a bobcat |
| 22:32.08 | unum | it took me a second to realize you were refering to the small backhoe when you said bobcat |
| 22:34.38 | thesuperbigfrog | perl strikes me more as a bobcat rather than something bigger |
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| 22:49.22 | sjansen | Clearly Perl is a cougar. |
| 22:49.38 | sjansen | Or is that Ruby?.. |
| 22:50.52 | sontek | Old but still disturbingly sexy... perl is definitely a cougar |
| 22:51.10 | sinuhe | A fat cougar |
| 22:51.12 | sinuhe | ducks |
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| 23:16.32 | harleypig | sinuhe: she's going in for cosmetic surgery ... |
| 23:17.04 | Jayce^ | she's got a daughter :D |
| 23:17.06 | harleypig | co-worker says perl's a cougar camel ... |
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| 23:40.12 | sjansen | http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/news.php?id=305 |
| 23:42.27 | levi | Wow, that's awesome. |
| 23:44.05 | jsmith-away | sjansen: You just made my whole week! |
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| 23:51.57 | levi | I wonder if their soldering stations are included. |
