| 00:00.08 | levi | I'm not overly fond of babies either, though. I'm so glad my kids aren't babies anymore, though they bring new and interesting frustrations to my days as they grow. |
| 00:00.19 | maquis | tries to get callie to take a nap o she can call the insurance company |
| 00:00.58 | sjansen | Callie? You named your child after California? |
| 00:01.10 | sjansen | You monsters. |
| 00:01.19 | maquis | glares at sjansen |
| 00:01.26 | levi | California is awesome. In some ways, anyway. |
| 00:01.36 | sjansen | Suuuurrree |
| 00:03.11 | maquis | notes that she has successfully converted the gospel principles manual that's being used this year to .mobi format... :) |
| 00:03.28 | harleypig | I'm on a redhat box and I need to pass a -D VARIABLE command to the apache server. I can't remember which file I need to add that to. Anyone help a fellow programmer out? |
| 00:03.43 | levi | I can't believe they're using that manual for Priesthood and RS. |
| 00:04.02 | maquis | levi: why not? |
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| 00:04.28 | levi | I pity the poor souls who come to my class and will have to hear two lessons from the same book per Sunday. |
| 00:05.08 | maquis | oh... its used in one of the ss classes? |
| 00:05.09 | levi | maquis: There's a reason people chose to go to Gospel Doctrine class instead of Gospel Principles. |
| 00:05.18 | harleypig | I'm looking in /etc/init.d/httpd and it's not providing a lot of help |
| 00:05.33 | levi | It's a slightly edited version of the book from the Gospel Principles class. |
| 00:05.43 | maquis | levi: is gospel principles == gospel essentials? |
| 00:05.45 | harleypig | oops ... nm ... found it in syconfig |
| 00:05.56 | levi | maquis: Er, yeah. Confused the name of the book and the class. |
| 00:06.05 | maquis | levi: ah..ok |
| 00:06.29 | maquis | never went to that class so didnt know it used this book |
| 00:07.09 | levi | It's the class that new converts and recently returned people are encouraged to attend. |
| 00:07.16 | sjansen | http://blog.endpoint.com/2010/01/state-of-postgres-project.html |
| 00:08.22 | sjansen | harleypig: Have you checked /etc/sysconfig/httpd? |
| 00:08.40 | sjansen | Yup. Guess you have. |
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| 00:09.32 | harleypig | hhe |
| 00:09.36 | harleypig | err ... heh |
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| 00:14.24 | tensai | hugs perl |
| 00:20.56 | fozzmoo | ~cheers tensai |
| 00:21.00 | sjansen | steals tensai's perl and replaces it with php |
| 00:21.04 | fozzmoo | ~cheer tensai |
| 00:21.05 | ibot | Three cheers for tensai! Hip hip Hurray! Hip hip Hurray! Hip hip Hurray! |
| 00:21.21 | fozzmoo | sjansen: You didn't like the video of the Redneck Games? |
| 00:21.40 | tensai | sjansen: over my dead process |
| 00:21.50 | sjansen | *shrug* I didn't see why it was for me specifically. |
| 00:21.58 | fozzmoo | sjansen: heh heh. |
| 00:22.03 | sjansen | pkill -STOP -u tensai |
| 00:22.21 | fozzmoo | Here's something interesting. I'm teaching an evening network security course for Weber State this semester. |
| 00:22.27 | sjansen | mv /usr/bin/php-cli /usr/bin/perl |
| 00:22.32 | sjansen | pkill -CONT -u tensai |
| 00:22.34 | fozzmoo | sjansen: That's just mean. |
| 00:22.44 | Jayce^ | more than mean, that's horrid |
| 00:23.35 | sjansen | Repayment (with interest) for all the times he harassed me about its vs. it's. |
| 00:23.56 | tensai | mv: cannot stat `/usr/bin/php-cli': No such file or directory |
| 00:24.08 | jsmith | tensai: Lucky you |
| 00:24.26 | fozzmoo | gets ready to go running at the gym. |
| 00:24.39 | tensai | jsmith: luck ain't got nuthin' to do with it |
| 00:25.02 | tensai | I perl by choice |
| 00:25.10 | jsmith | tensai: Yeah, and neither does PHP, I take it :-) |
| 00:25.14 | tensai | sjansen: don't forget "a lot" |
| 00:25.25 | Nafai | I neither perl or php by choice |
| 00:26.09 | tensai | jsmith: unfortunately I do have to use php for $dayjob on occasion |
| 00:26.49 | Nafai | But unfortunately I don't have a $dayjob at the moment |
| 00:26.51 | jsmith | tensai: Even better... I *never* have to code in Perl :-p |
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| 00:31.29 | fozzmoo | Nafai: No Digg? |
| 00:33.46 | Nafai | Yeah, didn't work out :( |
| 00:34.12 | Jayce^ | dang man |
| 00:35.49 | Nafai | yeah, oh well. |
| 00:36.16 | fozzmoo | Nafai: Sorry. |
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| 08:13.11 | rsimpkins | Anyone around? |
| 08:13.42 | levi | Yeah. |
| 08:14.30 | levi | Did anyone else just feel some sort of earthquake or something? |
| 08:24.24 | Reilithion | ...no |
| 08:32.24 | rsimpkins | It was. |
| 08:32.25 | rsimpkins | a 2.9 |
| 08:32.35 | rsimpkins | http://www.seis.utah.edu/req2webdir/recenteqs/Quakes/uu00000179.html |
| 08:32.54 | rsimpkins | It was apparently shallow according to this, so it felt a little stronger to me. |
| 08:33.13 | rsimpkins | Some of our things got knocked around a bit, nothing broken though. |
| 08:33.16 | Reilithion | Whereabouts are you, rsimpkins? |
| 08:33.20 | rsimpkins | Lehi. |
| 08:33.27 | rsimpkins | Just a few miles from the epicenter. |
| 08:33.33 | Reilithion | ah |
| 08:33.34 | levi | Yeah, I'm in Lehi too. |
| 08:33.41 | levi | No wonder we both felt it. |
| 08:33.51 | levi | I heard it, too. |
| 08:34.04 | rsimpkins | Our guys in the NOC in Orem didn't feel it. |
| 08:36.33 | rsimpkins | http://maps.google.com/maps?client=opera&rls=en&q=40.357N+111.919W&sourceid=opera&oe=utf-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=%2B40%C2%B0+21'+25.20%22,+-111%C2%B0+55'+8.40%22&gl=us&ei=A_pCS5--CImCsgOKxvDBBA&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CAcQ8gEwAA |
| 08:37.36 | Reilithion | Yeah that puts it further away from me. |
| 08:38.42 | levi | A little over 2 miles from me. |
| 08:41.21 | levi | Well, it's good to know I'm not crazy. :) |
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| 16:23.37 | Jayce^ | that earthquake was almost under my house... glad it was so small |
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| 16:24.10 | Reilithion | Mornin', Jayce^ |
| 16:24.17 | Jayce^ | morn |
| 16:24.27 | Reilithion | How goes? |
| 16:24.31 | jsmith | Jayce^: Earthquake? |
| 16:24.35 | Jayce^ | http://www.seis.utah.edu/req2webdir/recenteqs/Quakes/uu00000179.html |
| 16:24.44 | Jayce^ | tiny, but still |
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| 17:11.29 | fozzmoo | has never felt an earthquake. |
| 17:11.59 | fozzmoo | I apparently slept through one when we were vacationing in CA when I was a kid. |
| 17:12.26 | fozzmoo | goozbach: ping |
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| 17:59.52 | harleypig | http://treerage.com |
| 17:59.59 | harleypig | keep refreshing |
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| 18:17.33 | sjansen | A new benchmark for evil has been achieved: http://blogs.msdn.com/dotnetinterop/archive/2008/04/10/run-powershell-as-a-shell-within-emacs.aspx |
| 18:18.33 | jsmith | sjansen: That's a slice of evil inside of an evil sandwich with a side order of evil, all smothered in evil, with a diet evil soda to wash it down. |
| 18:19.29 | tensai | jsmith: would you like fries with that? |
| 18:19.50 | goozbach | tensai: only evil fries |
| 18:19.53 | jsmith | tensai: Ugh... now you've made me realize that it's lunch time... shame on you :-( |
| 18:20.14 | tensai | goozbach: they come with a nice evil dipping sauce too |
| 18:21.09 | sontek | yeah, I can see wanting to use powershell... but emacs? eww. |
| 18:22.16 | Reilithion | lol |
| 18:22.28 | sontek | http://christophersisk.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/axialtiltcolorbig.png |
| 18:23.06 | tensai | ~sontek++ |
| 18:23.15 | Reilithion | It reminds me of those people who chat on IRC and check their e-mail from Emacs... |
| 18:23.35 | sontek | looks at sinuhe |
| 18:23.49 | sontek | awkward... ;) |
| 18:24.05 | sjansen | ~jsmith++ |
| 18:24.44 | Reilithion | ... watch YouTube videos from Emacs? |
| 18:26.36 | sinuhe | I should switch to Acme to do that. Less filling, tastes great. |
| 18:27.05 | sinuhe | OK, I admit it, I use Emacs for IRC and email. I edit my .emacs file ed. So sue me. |
| 18:27.24 | sinuhe | s/ed./with ed./ |
| 18:28.03 | sinuhe | I was a nvi user for years and years. Now look what's happened. |
| 18:28.36 | goozbach | It has rotted your brain |
| 18:28.38 | sinuhe | I watch YouTube videos with my Palm Pre. Now if it ran Emacs... |
| 18:28.46 | sinuhe | goozbach: Very possibly. |
| 18:28.53 | goozbach | dun dun dunnnnnn!!!! |
| 18:29.06 | sinuhe | Hey, that's my line. |
| 18:29.12 | sinuhe | You would know |
| 18:29.24 | goozbach | wonders if he should eat |
| 18:29.28 | goozbach | he's not hungry |
| 18:29.38 | sinuhe | When not hungry, don't eat. |
| 18:29.40 | goozbach | but if he waits much longer he'll not be hungry for dinner |
| 18:29.50 | sinuhe | Then don't eat until dinner. |
| 18:29.51 | jsmith | goozbach: Eat! |
| 18:29.58 | sinuhe | That's what coffee is for. |
| 18:30.02 | sinuhe | ;) |
| 18:30.09 | jsmith | goozbach: I have a can of deluxe mixed nuts on my desk... for occasions just like that |
| 18:30.13 | goozbach | ohh |
| 18:30.18 | goozbach | I have candy!!!! |
| 18:30.32 | sinuhe | Now I'm in the mood for roasted almonds. |
| 18:30.33 | jsmith | Candy is empty calories... get some protein in there somehow! |
| 18:30.37 | sinuhe | ~lart jsmith |
| 18:30.37 | ibot | wallops jsmith with a main rotation server that needs rehubbing. It won't take long |
| 18:30.40 | jsmith | sinuhe: Smoked ones? |
| 18:30.46 | sinuhe | Certainly |
| 18:30.49 | goozbach | all my cashews are gone :( |
| 18:30.52 | sjansen | http://failblog.org/2010/01/04/courthouse-fail/ |
| 18:31.02 | sinuhe | goozbach: dun dun dunnnnnn!!!! |
| 18:31.09 | sinuhe | ~dun |
| 18:31.10 | ibot | DUN DUN DUNNN |
| 18:31.13 | sinuhe | Nice |
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| 18:54.44 | *** topic/#utah by sjansen -> http://utos.org/irc | logs @ http://ibot.rikers.org/#utah | shut up wesley |
| 18:58.55 | sjansen | http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/NIST-certified-USB-Flash-drives-with-hardware-encryption-cracked-895308.html |
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| 19:10.41 | jsmith | sjansen: Well aren't we on an steady diet of evil today... |
| 19:23.20 | sinuhe | Wow. openSUSE has lasted three weeks for me on my laptop. I haven't had a distribution last that long since Ubuntu 8.04 LTS (2.5 months). (The long term champion is OpenBSD which lasted nearly 2 years on old Toshiba.) |
| 19:23.42 | goozbach | eject |
| 19:23.44 | goozbach | doh |
| 19:24.12 | sinuhe | ~eject goozbach |
| 19:24.13 | ibot | sinuhe hits the big red button that says 'DO NOT PUSH' on it and goozbach is ejected from the channel screaming. |
| 19:24.25 | goozbach | NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! |
| 19:25.16 | sinuhe | I did survive SuSE once before with the 6 and 7 series, but that was a *long* time ago. |
| 19:27.17 | sjansen | congratulates sinuhe on being one of the few people capable of capitalizing {open,}S[uU]SE correctly. |
| 19:27.28 | sinuhe | Thank you |
| 19:27.54 | levi | I also read email and IRC from emacs. |
| 19:28.05 | sinuhe | falls over and dies of shock |
| 19:28.09 | sinuhe | ~shock sinuhe |
| 19:28.17 | sinuhe | ~heartattack sinuhe |
| 19:28.23 | sinuhe | ~fallover sinuhe |
| 19:28.32 | sinuhe | ~helpivefallenandicantgetup sinuhe |
| 19:28.34 | sinuhe | ~sign |
| 19:28.36 | sinuhe | ~sigh |
| 19:28.37 | ibot | *sigh* |
| 19:28.50 | sinuhe | One out of six. Oh my. |
| 19:29.11 | levi | gnus is the best text-mode email reader ever. |
| 19:29.19 | sinuhe | It sure seems to be. |
| 19:29.36 | sinuhe | Then again, I actually use USENET with it, too. |
| 19:29.53 | sjansen | locks sinuhe and levi in a room with an emacs-powered android running azile |
| 19:29.55 | sinuhe | mutt's not too bad. |
| 19:29.55 | levi | Me too, though not very much. |
| 19:30.32 | levi | I finally figured out how to use gnus to escape from mutt. |
| 19:31.03 | sinuhe | There is Emacs therapist, always a winner for bored students. |
| 19:31.50 | sinuhe | I still use mutt for my Guru Labs email (Kerberos), but I scared the crap out of the gurus when I posted Gnus and Rmail configs for GL email. |
| 19:32.36 | sinuhe | OK...made not scared. Confused is probably the better word. Why would anyone use Emacs? |
| 19:32.40 | sinuhe | My next evil plan is Acme. |
| 19:32.52 | sinuhe | ducks from sjansen |
| 19:33.31 | sinuhe | ~evilplan acme |
| 19:33.36 | sinuhe | Hmmm |
| 19:33.44 | levi | No acme for me. |
| 19:35.34 | sjansen | Confused? Offended! |
| 19:37.31 | sinuhe | So eight years with the GNU Project has turned my brain to mush. What can I say? |
| 19:38.24 | sinuhe | sjansen: Of course, I'll keep to myself that I've caught you using Emacs lately. Sssshhh |
| 19:39.40 | sontek | I gave emacs a shot, I really liked it for editing files, but its python support just isn't as good as vim's |
| 19:40.33 | sontek | It'd be pretty nice if I was a java dev or something |
| 19:40.55 | levi | What does vim do to support python development that emacs doesn't? |
| 19:40.56 | sinuhe | There's an oxymoron: Emacs as Java IDE. |
| 19:41.12 | sinuhe | Would that be the Emacs trap? |
| 19:42.53 | sontek | levi: well currently the python setup in emacs is really torn apart, pre-23/post-23 and then python.el and python-mode.el for each of those |
| 19:43.04 | sontek | but outside of that, there is no good way to get good code completion in emacs for python |
| 19:44.34 | sontek | and each mode has certain supported features that the other doesn't |
| 19:45.04 | sontek | i.e if you want ipython interpreter you have to use python.el |
| 19:49.25 | sinuhe | I like Emacs for USENET, email, IRC, and editing HTML/XML. I don't use it for much else. irssi is a tempting alternative to ERC. |
| 19:50.46 | sontek | Have you ever compared irssi and erc, or you've just always used erc? What do you like about erc? |
| 19:50.55 | sontek | I'm actually using weechat, not irssi, but they are pretty similar |
| 19:51.24 | sinuhe | I used irssi heavily for awhile. Blame Derek. |
| 19:52.14 | Jayce^ | we all do |
| 19:52.37 | levi | I think irssi is somewhat better than erc when compared side by side, but the fact that erc integrates into emacs pushes it ahead for me. That, and inertia. |
| 19:52.42 | sinuhe | ERC I use mostly for convenience when I'm already using Emacs. It is comparable to irssi, which is why I like it. If I didn't use Emacs for the other things, I'd use irssi. |
| 19:52.51 | sinuhe | What levi said. |
| 19:54.00 | goozbach | sinuhe: you need to use weechat now |
| 19:54.07 | goozbach | and then you can blame me for that |
| 19:54.09 | goozbach | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:54.15 | goozbach | sontek: you do, right? |
| 19:54.35 | sinuhe | A mix of libxml, xmlformat, and perhaps a custom formatter, might be enough for me to drop Emacs as a XML/HTML editor. I've not found a better Email editor, yet, nor USENET, so I suppose that's the main reason I use Emacs. |
| 19:55.03 | sontek | goozbach: I had first heard about it from eightyeight but you are you the one who convinced me to try it :] |
| 19:55.12 | sinuhe | weechat, eh? |
| 19:55.12 | levi | I mainly use emacs for writing C code. |
| 19:56.15 | sontek | http://i.imgur.com/5bR0C.png |
| 19:56.18 | sontek | thats my weechat |
| 19:57.00 | sontek | its pretty sexy :O |
| 19:57.17 | fozzmoo | nods |
| 19:57.25 | levi | Hmm, $529 for an unlocked Nexus One. |
| 19:57.38 | sontek | levi: don't do it, nokia n900 is where its at |
| 19:57.57 | sontek | maemo is so much better than android |
| 19:58.13 | levi | I don't have that much money to spend on a gadget right now, anyway. |
| 19:58.20 | goozbach | eightyeight: did I hear about weechat from you, or was it the other way around? |
| 19:59.20 | fozzmoo | Alright. Someone remind me how I list the UUID of a disk partition, please. |
| 19:59.23 | sontek | weechat really has 2 big selling points, 1. scrollable topic and user list 2. python plugin support |
| 19:59.55 | levi | n900 looks too thick for me. |
| 20:00.18 | levi | And also isn't a phone. |
| 20:00.19 | fozzmoo | dumpe2fs? |
| 20:00.46 | goozbach | fozzmoo: it's in /sys/ somewhere? |
| 20:00.57 | fozzmoo | dumpe2fs shows it. |
| 20:02.33 | sontek | fozzmoo: I usually do ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid |
| 20:02.52 | fozzmoo | sontek: That's handy too. |
| 20:02.56 | ^Migs^ | http://www.independent.ie/lifestyle/parenting/smacked-children-more-successful-later-in-life-study-finds-1999514.html |
| 20:02.59 | goozbach | maybe not |
| 20:03.03 | ^Migs^ | "Children who are smacked by their parents may grow up to be happier and more successful than those spared physical discipline, research suggests." |
| 20:03.05 | ^Migs^ | DISCIPLINE. |
| 20:03.16 | fozzmoo | ~cheer corporal punishment |
| 20:03.17 | ibot | ACTION cheers corporal punishment on |
| 20:03.20 | ^Migs^ | I'm going to go home and smack my kids around tonight. |
| 20:03.51 | fozzmoo | You ever heard a good success story where the person had it easy growing up?! Come on. :) |
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| 20:05.05 | sontek | "Love your kids? Prove it by beating them." http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/images/beatkid4.jpg |
| 20:09.36 | sjansen | sontek: Who is this Surye? He seems wise. |
| 20:10.01 | goozbach | sjansen: you don't know the maddox? |
| 20:10.24 | sjansen | Surye is Maddox? |
| 20:11.21 | sontek | sjansen: haha, surye has no idea what hes talking about!:P |
| 20:12.39 | fozzmoo | I see Maddox as a real life Strongbad. |
| 20:13.02 | TehLaser | Speaking of android, I've been having fun hacking at my nook lately. |
| 20:13.35 | TehLaser | hint: swooshy scrolly UI's are worse than useless on a display with a latency measured in seconds. |
| 20:13.48 | goozbach | fozzmoo: who isn't limited to PG material |
| 20:14.09 | ^Migs^ | I like http://www.ninjapirate.com too |
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| 20:14.21 | sontek | Yeah, I was hoping to run into maddox when I moved to Utah |
| 20:14.25 | fozzmoo2 | is testing weechat. |
| 20:14.28 | sontek | was expecting him to be at SLUG or something |
| 20:14.42 | ^Migs^ | uh, why? |
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| 20:14.57 | fozzmoo | Does he work at XM? |
| 20:15.02 | sontek | fozzmoo2: there are a coouple silly defaults but its really good once you fix the silly stuff |
| 20:15.15 | fozzmoo2 | sontek: Recommendations? |
| 20:15.29 | goozbach | sontek: did you publish your irc.conf? |
| 20:15.39 | sontek | fozzmoo: He was a programmer in Utah but I don't think it was ever public of where |
| 20:15.54 | sontek | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maddox_%28writer%29 |
| 20:15.58 | sontek | says a telelmarketing ocmpany |
| 20:16.25 | sontek | goozbach: http://github.com/sontek/dotfiles/tree/master/_weechat/ |
| 20:16.32 | unum | I didn't realize he was that young |
| 20:16.54 | fozzmoo2 | reads weechat User's Guide |
| 20:17.05 | JoshH | i think maddox moved to LA |
| 20:17.30 | sontek | fozzmoo2: trying to remember the commands, but re-ordering of hotlist was annoying |
| 20:17.48 | sontek | fozzmoo2: and then bouncing to previous when you hit a hotlist number twice was annoying |
| 20:18.07 | sontek | fozzmoo2: if you have more than 10 buffers, just alt-j ## to jump to them |
| 20:18.25 | fozzmoo | I like the ALT-arrow shortcut. Very nice. |
| 20:18.33 | sontek | fozzmoo: hotlist_sort = number_asc |
| 20:18.42 | sontek | thats a good one to have |
| 20:18.54 | sontek | thats the one that fixes hotlist sorting |
| 20:19.19 | fozzmoo | Looks like CentOS EPEL has weechat 0.2.6 |
| 20:19.20 | sjansen | goozbach is Maddox?! |
| 20:19.26 | sinuhe | ~blame goozbach |
| 20:19.27 | ibot | ACTION blames goozbach (and Canada) for all the evil in the world |
| 20:19.29 | goozbach | sjansen: shhhhh!!! |
| 20:19.33 | fozzmoo | Should I stick with 0.2.6 or upgrade to 0.3? |
| 20:19.39 | goozbach | I'm running .3 |
| 20:19.58 | sontek | fozzmoo: and jump_current_to_previous_buffer = off |
| 20:20.39 | sontek | fozzmoo: should definitely run the latest, its a really active application, flashcode has already added stuff into trunk that I requested :P |
| 20:21.28 | sontek | yeah, his facebook says hes in Granada Hills now |
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| 20:23.19 | sontek | fozzmoo: I also suggest setting up the buffers.pl, egrep.py, and shortenurl.rb plugins |
| 20:23.29 | fozzmoo | k |
| 20:23.39 | sontek | you could snag my weechat conf off github as a starting point |
| 20:26.57 | sjansen | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:27.13 | sjansen | My question: Who uses Comic Sans MS for their invoices? |
| 20:28.06 | sjansen | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:30.11 | sontek | haha |
| 20:31.22 | unum | my dad was faxed a competitors price list once |
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| 20:32.12 | fozzmoo | Hmmm. ALT stuff isn't behaving nicely with screen. |
| 20:32.23 | goozbach | ALT? |
| 20:32.29 | fozzmoo | ALT+left arrow |
| 20:32.32 | fozzmoo | ALT+right arrow. |
| 20:32.34 | goozbach | ahh |
| 20:32.49 | fozzmoo | Oh- but ALT+j ## works. |
| 20:33.13 | fozzmoo | Didn't I hear somene say they found something they liked better than screen for doing screenlike things? |
| 20:34.17 | sontek | do you have specific binds for alt-left/right in your screen? because it works fine in my screen |
| 20:34.26 | sontek | but I use alt+j because it keeps me on home row |
| 20:34.38 | fozzmoo | Oh. You learned how to type correctly?! |
| 20:34.41 | goozbach | fozzmoo: it's not better than screen |
| 20:34.41 | fozzmoo | I never did that. |
| 20:34.48 | goozbach | it's screen improved |
| 20:34.50 | goozbach | byobu |
| 20:35.16 | fozzmoo | goozbach: linkie? |
| 20:35.31 | goozbach | https://code.launchpad.net/~derek-friocorte/byobu/portable |
| 20:35.34 | goozbach | that's my branch |
| 20:35.40 | goozbach | which works on Fedora 11 |
| 20:35.46 | goozbach | it's still got some bugs |
| 20:35.47 | sjansen | goozbach: Advantages? |
| 20:35.55 | goozbach | (and it's auto-tool'ized) |
| 20:35.55 | sontek | isn't tmux a good alternative as well? |
| 20:35.58 | goozbach | tmux |
| 20:36.01 | goozbach | that's the other one |
| 20:36.09 | goozbach | sjansen: screen vs byobu? |
| 20:36.21 | goozbach | or byobu vs tmux |
| 20:36.29 | goozbach | or screen vs tmux vs byobu? |
| 20:36.37 | sjansen | Either or both. |
| 20:36.46 | goozbach | I'm a super big fan of byobu |
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| 20:37.03 | goozbach | it makes your screen session, pretty, and informatative at the same time |
| 20:37.07 | sjansen | Brain dump whatever matters to you. Make me smarter. |
| 20:37.15 | goozbach | tmux I haven't played with enough |
| 20:37.19 | sinuhe | tmux, but I still use screen |
| 20:37.22 | goozbach | though it looks promising |
| 20:37.47 | fozzmoo | So, is there a project homepage for byobu? |
| 20:38.01 | goozbach | not sure |
| 20:38.04 | goozbach | don't think so |
| 20:38.14 | sontek | byobu just seemed to have a good standard .screenrc :p |
| 20:38.15 | goozbach | I doubt I'll ever go back to vanilla screen |
| 20:38.20 | sontek | but my screen looks just as good :> |
| 20:38.37 | goozbach | byobu is nothing more than scripts to manage your .screenrc |
| 20:38.38 | sjansen | https://launchpad.net/byobu & http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/search/label/Byobu Look the most "official". |
| 20:38.46 | goozbach | so it requires screen |
| 20:39.03 | sontek | yeah thats what I figured |
| 20:39.19 | goozbach | but the interface and ideoligy behind byobu I'm a fan of |
| 20:40.46 | goozbach | debugging kickstarts is time consuming |
| 20:41.47 | fozzmoo | goes grab some lunch. |
| 20:41.55 | goozbach | lunch, I still haven't done that... |
| 20:42.18 | sjansen | eightyeight: You'll probably enjoy this byobu post -> http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2009/06/prime-numbers-for-win.html |
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| 21:02.17 | sjansen | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:02.37 | sjansen | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:02.55 | goozbach | sjansen: you got your wish :) |
| 21:08.02 | TehLaser | *mumblemumble* |
| 21:08.29 | TehLaser | *mumble* idiots in my *mumble* neighborhood trying to *mumble* steal cable cutting my *mumble* internet. |
| 21:16.12 | Sargun | hahaha |
| 21:16.25 | Sargun | sjansen, what? |
| 21:16.38 | Sargun | BYOBU? |
| 21:25.18 | sinuhe | thinks Sargun should keep up with the conversation. |
| 21:25.23 | sinuhe | sjansen: Which vendor? |
| 21:25.25 | sontek | Bring your own beer and ... ? |
| 21:25.25 | sinuhe | :) |
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| 21:26.04 | sjansen | Vendor? What do you mean? Ain't no vendors around here. |
| 21:26.11 | sjansen | No sir, never heard of no vendors. |
| 21:26.24 | sinuhe | Stallman thinks vendors are soda machines. |
| 21:26.28 | Reilithion | sjansen: Quit teasing the noobs. |
| 21:26.29 | sinuhe | wonders where that came from |
| 21:27.26 | sjansen | Clear Reilithion has seen through your disguise and realized you're a n00b, sinuhe. |
| 21:27.48 | Reilithion | Just call me Goggalor. |
| 21:27.49 | sinuhe | I readily admit to n00bdom |
| 21:27.59 | sinuhe | Goggalor? |
| 21:28.06 | goozbach | sjansen: what's the vim encantation to take a RCS conflict text and give you a vimdiff style interface? |
| 21:28.14 | goozbach | ie <<<<<<< THIS |
| 21:28.16 | goozbach | foo |
| 21:28.18 | goozbach | ========= |
| 21:28.19 | Reilithion | sinuhe: Psychonauts reference |
| 21:28.20 | sinuhe | Of course, being a newbie is relative |
| 21:28.22 | goozbach | bar |
| 21:28.30 | goozbach | >>>>>>>>>> BRANCH |
| 21:28.30 | eightyeight | sjansen: there's an algorithm called the leap frog algorithm, iirc, that does exactly that |
| 21:28.53 | sjansen | goozbach: No such thing as far as I know. I wrote code to split the file apart and invoice vim with appropriate args. |
| 21:29.08 | sinuhe | Pyschonauts must be a game for Windows, or a game machine like Xbox. |
| 21:29.23 | eightyeight | (re: prime number search) |
| 21:29.25 | sjansen | Nope. Desssert topping. |
| 21:29.29 | eightyeight | useful for factorization |
| 21:29.29 | sinuhe | Now if you want to talk about nethack... |
| 21:29.38 | sinuhe | Or adventure |
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| 21:29.51 | eightyeight | but, it requires a great deal of ram, and for all practical purposes, it's impractical |
| 21:30.03 | eightyeight | for massively large numbers |
| 21:30.30 | sontek | goozbach: you just want to launch vimdiff from vim? |
| 21:31.00 | goozbach | sontek: not exactly |
| 21:31.17 | sjansen | goozbach wants to use vimdiff on a single file containing conflict markers. |
| 21:31.34 | goozbach | I want to take the merge conflict files (output from bzr) and edit them via vimdiff |
| 21:32.39 | sjansen | I'm sure someone has already created a simple method to integrate vimdiff with bzr conflict resolution. |
| 21:32.58 | sjansen | After all, isn't ease of use the one real advantage of bzr? |
| 21:33.07 | sontek | I have a script that does it with git's conflicts |
| 21:33.12 | sontek | not sure if bzr uses different markers |
| 21:34.07 | sontek | you could use git-bzr and then vimdiff :p |
| 21:34.39 | goozbach | sontek: http://gist.github.com/269754 |
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| 21:36.09 | sjansen | goozbach: Have you tried the bzr extmerge plugin? |
| 21:37.37 | goozbach | sjansen: nope |
| 21:37.41 | goozbach | I'll give it a shot |
| 21:37.44 | goozbach | I suppose |
| 21:40.49 | sjansen | http://hans.fugal.net/blog/2009/08/24/terminal-merge-conflict-resolution/ |
| 21:41.36 | sjansen | elg: Far as I can tell, you never did post why vimdiff wasn't up to the task. |
| 21:43.12 | sjansen | sontek: Why wasn't git-merge sufficient? |
| 21:44.18 | sontek | sjansen: I do git mergetool --tool vimdiff |
| 21:44.28 | sontek | sjansen: but I have it customized, don't remember what the tweaks were |
| 21:44.49 | sjansen | Oops, yeah, git-mergetool. |
| 21:56.03 | eightyeight | sjansen: http://www.saltlakeactingcompany.org/outreach/calculus-the-musical |
| 21:57.10 | sjansen | Oh my... |
| 21:57.52 | eightyeight | who knew instantaneous rates of change and the area under a curve could be so entertaining |
| 21:59.34 | sinuhe | They've always been a good acting company. |
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| 23:03.18 | Jayce^ | mrpull: evil..... |
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| 23:42.52 | bonez2046 | I am to the point where I think it would be nice to have system logon, where whenever my boys or wife or I log on to our home network, all the logons would verify to a central server machine.. so that I could revoke logon privileges to one boy if he gets outta hand.. |
| 23:43.09 | bonez2046 | does linux offer something that would take care of this for logon and rights? |
| 23:44.41 | Sargun | no |
| 23:44.42 | Sargun | :-P |
| 23:45.44 | bonez2046 | nothing? |
| 23:45.51 | bonez2046 | what would that be called? |
| 23:46.06 | Sargun | http://www.novell.com/products/edirectory/ |
| 23:46.17 | Sargun | (Open)LDAP |
| 23:47.32 | bonez2046 | so LDAP is what I am referring to? |
| 23:47.42 | bonez2046 | work with windows or with linux and mac too? |
| 23:48.53 | fungus | LDAP would work with linux and mac, not sure about windows. |
| 23:49.03 | bonez2046 | hmmmm |
| 23:49.04 | bonez2046 | ok |
| 23:49.18 | fungus | If you got windows, you could use a windows domain. (horrors) :) |
| 23:49.25 | fungus | AD or old style domain. |
| 23:50.46 | fungus | Either use an windows server, or use Samba on linux for the domain controller. |
| 23:51.28 | bonez2046 | I'd use samba/linux for domain controller |
