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| 06:19.26 | tensai | be careful which server you drop the entire database on. be even more careful to have a backup before doing it. |
| 06:19.34 | tensai | breathes a sigh of relief |
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| 15:23.27 | Migs | "A shopping centre in China's Hebei province has built a car park with wider spaces that it says is designed especially to suit women drivers. The women-only car park in Shijiazhuang city is also painted in pink and light purple to appeal to female tastes." http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8432887.stm |
| 15:23.28 | Migs | hahaha |
| 15:24.24 | Migs | "Official Wang Zheng told AFP news agency the car park was meant to cater to women's "strong sense of colour and different sense of distance"." |
| 15:33.58 | goozbach | nice! |
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| 16:11.14 | RyanE | Somehow, I think my wife might still be offended if I told her she had a 'difference sense of distance' when driving and parking... :) |
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| 16:34.30 | bonez2046 | i am trying to remotely enable dual booting on a pc which has hdd 0 running xp pro..and to which I can connect using logmein, and it had hdd 1 running 98se .. I have the pastebin.ca file here for the boot.ini which is on the xp pro drive http://pastebin.ca/1730804 |
| 16:35.07 | bonez2046 | just curious if any of you know your way around boot.ini.. to tell if I have it correctly 'worded' to enable dual booting.. |
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| 16:39.37 | TehLaser | Remotely mucking around with bootloaders is usually a Bad Idea. |
| 16:40.23 | TehLaser | Unless you're willing for the machine to be down until you can get to it, because that tends to be the most likely outcome. :) |
| 16:40.23 | bonez2046 | TehLaser: I agree this is risky.. did you look at the file? any comments other than about relative risk.. on whether I worded the boot.ini near close to what might work? |
| 16:40.38 | TehLaser | doesn't speak boot.ini well enough to comment. |
| 16:40.43 | bonez2046 | yeah, I have to go to that machine today.. most likely anyway |
| 16:40.51 | bonez2046 | ok.... |
| 16:41.32 | TehLaser | recently trashed his sshd config on a headless machine, to much annoyance and pain. |
| 16:42.25 | bonez2046 | ah, headless.that's waht I need to figure out with vbox.. how to run a headless vbox instance... |
| 16:50.58 | TehLaser | I think I've done that, but I can't remember how. Something to do with using a different command to start the instance up. |
| 16:51.38 | TehLaser | I may have just been running the non-free RDP head and not actually using it though. |
| 16:52.30 | TehLaser | My case, it's a laptop with a busted screen that's sitting in a corner. |
| 16:54.37 | bonez2046 | I have one of those |
| 16:56.15 | TehLaser | was a wee bit intoxicated and Wife was demanding access to it, so I edited the sshd config but forgot the first rule of doing that: test another connection *before* you close your current session. :P |
| 16:56.26 | TehLaser | And I goofed the deliminator on allowed_users |
| 16:56.55 | TehLaser | ssh + booze is *always* a bad idea. :) |
| 16:58.18 | bonez2046 | yeah... |
| 16:58.31 | bonez2046 | booze + LOTS OF THINGS.. is often a bad combination |
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| 17:17.17 | TehLaser | Yeah, but especially computers. |
| 17:17.38 | sontek | :o |
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| 19:25.12 | elg | downloading at 15KB/sec. oh the agony |
| 19:26.10 | tensai | quick, everybody DoS elg |
| 19:29.05 | fungus | ~ddos elg |
| 19:29.05 | ibot | ACTION about to DOS elg just for fun "Take that" |
| 19:45.39 | mulicheng | Yeah everyone, slow down his blazing fast 15KB/sec, he's out of control. |
| 19:48.00 | jsmith | elg: Welcome to my world the past few weeks :-( |
| 19:48.30 | elg | "About 11 hours left in the install, downloading at 15 kilobytes/second with 2 simultaneous download streams." |
| 19:49.20 | jsmith | Ugh. |
| 20:01.36 | goozbach | active directory is a pain! |
| 20:02.46 | fozzmoo | goozbach: Yes. It was designed from the ground up explicitly for that purpose. |
| 20:02.54 | jsmith | goozbach: You sound surprised. |
| 20:04.46 | goozbach | not supprised |
| 20:05.19 | goozbach | I guess I've only ever worked with AD when I could walk into the office of the person with the keys to the *ENTIRE* kingdom and ask for something to be done |
| 20:25.14 | unum | why didn't I set autosave sooner on my ide? |
| 20:31.39 | fozzmoo | unum: Because you... had an incident of intellectus flatulus? |
| 20:38.36 | thesuperbigfrog | ~slam sjansen |
| 20:38.37 | ibot | ACTION slams sjansen against a large cement Tux |
| 20:39.11 | thesuperbigfrog | ~oscillate sjansen |
| 20:43.26 | thesuperbigfrog | ~oscillate $somebody is <action> ties $somebody up and places $somebody in the driver's seat of a rocket truck. ibot accelerates the rocket truck to mach one as it approaches a huge mountain, but forgets to activate the oscillation overthruster. |
| 20:43.27 | ibot | thesuperbigfrog: okay |
| 20:46.51 | unum | ~oscillate thesuperbigfrog |
| 20:46.52 | ibot | ACTION ties thesuperbigfrog up and places thesuperbigfrog in the driver's seat of a rocket truck. ibot accelerates the rocket truck to mach one as it approaches a huge mountain, but forgets to activate the oscillation overthruster. |
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| 20:55.50 | Migs | http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs156.snc1/5815_126042823440_507273440_2309098_6510686_n.jpg |
| 21:29.00 | unum | I think one of my computer gave up on me |
| 21:29.06 | unum | again |
| 21:29.11 | unum | I guess that means it's time to take a break |
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| 22:03.13 | eightyeight | i'm really bothered by the fact that bash can't do floating point aritmetic |
| 22:03.33 | eightyeight | how do admins get around this? |
| 22:03.46 | eightyeight | i need to test for a ratio being -le 1.5 |
| 22:03.58 | eightyeight | i can do it in zsh, but it's not always guaranteed to be installed |
| 22:04.05 | eightyeight | plus, i need portability |
| 22:04.56 | eightyeight | shell scripts are meant to be simple solutions to simple problems, right? otherwise, i would rely on perl or python |
| 22:04.56 | tvc123 | eightyeight: perl? (/me can't believe he just said that) |
| 22:05.03 | eightyeight | is frustrated |
| 22:07.00 | unum | I'd say anything using floating point arithmatic has gone beyond simple |
| 22:07.29 | unum | I tend to think of shell scripts as solutions for simple adminstrative tasks |
| 22:07.42 | unum | not end user programs, but that may just be my bias |
| 22:08.21 | eightyeight | 1.5 is beyond simple? |
| 22:09.21 | unum | yep |
| 22:09.27 | eightyeight | heh |
| 22:09.46 | unum | you can times by 10 |
| 22:09.49 | unum | and check for 15 |
| 22:10.10 | unum | if you only need one decimal point |
| 22:10.10 | eightyeight | hmm |
| 22:10.24 | unum | or time by 100 that way your using percentages :) |
| 22:11.04 | mulicheng | In python, type 1.0/3 .. try 10.0/3 |
| 22:12.09 | mulicheng | (1.0/3) * 10 == (10.0/3) |
| 22:12.10 | mulicheng | False |
| 22:12.12 | tensai | unum: that won't work because 1.5*10 is a floating point calculation |
| 22:12.32 | eightyeight | tensai: bc could do the calculation though, and i could store the result in a var that bash could use |
| 22:12.35 | tensai | eightyeight: I had this come up just the other day. I ended up using bc for the math. |
| 22:12.41 | mulicheng | Gotta love those floats :) |
| 22:13.01 | eightyeight | it looks like it's rather trivial to install zsh prior to running the script, so i'm going that route |
| 22:13.15 | eightyeight | i'd much rather code in zsh than bash any day |
| 22:13.22 | goozbach | eightyeight: bc? |
| 22:13.25 | goozbach | :) |
| 22:13.37 | tensai | when my script gets too complicated for bash, I move to perl |
| 22:14.39 | eightyeight | goozbach: you have a better solution? |
| 22:16.09 | goozbach | integer math is easy with bash |
| 22:16.20 | goozbach | floating point math I always just pass to bc |
| 22:16.54 | goozbach | or write my script in perl |
| 22:17.33 | eightyeight | bc it is then. :) |
| 22:17.36 | eightyeight | or, zsh |
| 22:17.42 | eightyeight | hugs zsh |
| 22:32.26 | Zelut | I've used bc for floats before too. not too hard. |
| 22:34.47 | bonez2046 | I have two drives... currently /dev/sda1 has xp pro installed and today I loaded ubuntu 9.10 desktop on 7 gb of space on /dev/sda1 on /dev/sda2 is installed 98se ... |
| 22:34.57 | bonez2046 | when I load up xp pro, I look at the drives and I see the Host for C: drive on /dev/sda2 [98se is running Doublespace] and doesn't show the actual bootable drive.. when I view these with ubuntu booted up.. the disc manager there shows this 1.8 gb [yeah, it's really smallish] 98se drive.. but only shows autoexec.bat and config.sys files.. on the container, the Host for C: |
| 22:35.18 | bonez2046 | any ideas how I can 1) configure my boot.ini file on the xp pro partition.. so that I can boot 98se .. which is on compressed drive? or 2) how to set the compressed 98se drive such that ubuntu's grub can recognize it and offer 98se as a bootable option? |
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| 22:39.29 | tvc123 | bonez2046: not the answer you want but it may be easier to just use virtual box and virtualize the other machines |
| 22:44.03 | eightyeight | Zelut: it's not the difficulty that's frustrating. it's the lack of floating point arithmetic in a shell that's frustrating |
| 22:44.22 | eightyeight | "let's support math operations... except floating points. no one needs that" |
| 22:45.02 | eightyeight | heads home |
| 22:46.55 | goozbach | eightyeight: I think it's more of a unix philosiphy(sp?) |
| 22:46.59 | bonez2046 | tvc123: yours might be the best option.. |
| 22:47.07 | goozbach | do one thing, and one thing well |
| 22:47.21 | goozbach | bc will most likely be on a system running bash |
| 22:59.16 | fozzmoo | And perl is on any system worth using. ;-) |
| 23:04.56 | tensai | fozzmoo: and even on many that aren't |
| 23:25.44 | thesuperbigfrog | ~lart unum |
| 23:25.44 | ibot | hooks into a hydrant and hoses unum down |
| 23:29.34 | thesuperbigfrog | eightyeight: couldn't you just keep the 1.5 ratio in terms of integer components (i.e. 1.5/1 ratio == 3/2 ratio) |
| 23:31.43 | thesuperbigfrog | though I do agree with fozzmoo, perl/python/ruby scripts should be preferred to shell scripts |
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