| 00:17.18 | Tene | my Perl 6 advent post went up today: http://perl6advent.wordpress.com/2009/12/21/day-21-grammars-and-actions/ |
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| 02:53.57 | tristanbob | I am so proud of myself, I finally figured out how to use screen. I always knew what it could do, just never spent the 5 minutes to learn it. |
| 02:57.35 | goozbach | tristanbob: it's about time |
| 02:57.50 | goozbach | now you need to install byobu so you can have a sessy screen session |
| 02:59.14 | sontek | Just bought my little sis a eeepc, setting up ubuntu on it right now then i'm going to get her hacking on some python |
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| 03:31.10 | eightyeight | tristanbob: so, what are you going to do with this new found knowledge? |
| 03:31.27 | eightyeight | btw- i hear tmux is superior, although i've never used it |
| 03:37.42 | goozbach | I can't trust a project still using cvs :) |
| 03:37.56 | eightyeight | why? |
| 03:38.39 | goozbach | didn't you see the smiley |
| 03:38.54 | goozbach | I couldn't remember how to get the entire repo using cvs |
| 03:38.57 | goozbach | I want git clone |
| 03:39.09 | goozbach | or I'd even settle for svn co |
| 03:39.11 | goozbach | :) |
| 03:39.18 | eightyeight | i did. i was just curious if there was an actual hidden reason in there somewhere |
| 03:39.28 | goozbach | screen is in git now |
| 03:39.33 | goozbach | so I'll stick with screen |
| 03:39.42 | goozbach | till tmux is avaliable on fedora at least |
| 03:39.46 | goozbach | time for sleeping |
| 03:39.47 | goozbach | adios |
| 03:40.09 | eightyeight | tmux isn't in the fedora repos? |
| 03:40.26 | eightyeight | i thought fedora was bleeding edge |
| 03:40.31 | eightyeight | :) |
| 03:41.00 | eightyeight | btw- openssh uses cvs. :) |
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| 04:19.54 | fugue88 | I thought Fedora was bleeding. |
| 04:19.55 | fugue88 | :D |
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| 05:25.41 | tristanbob | anyone learning regex? check out this neat real-time tool: http://www.gskinner.com/RegExr/ |
| 05:25.55 | tristanbob | eightyeight, I am running a ciscocmd script that connects to hundreds of switches and runs commands |
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| 16:35.16 | goozbach | eightyeight: I installed tmux just now |
| 16:35.19 | goozbach | looks pretty sweet |
| 16:36.03 | Sargun_Screen | Hey |
| 16:44.15 | sontek | goozbach: better than screen? |
| 16:45.17 | goozbach | sontek: can't pass judgement yet, it's just like screen in that it has a HUGE learning curve |
| 16:45.37 | fozzmoo | :) |
| 16:45.39 | goozbach | and honestly if I've built quite a muscle memory of screen comands |
| 16:45.44 | goozbach | s/comands/commands/ |
| 16:45.59 | goozbach | I'll give it a go over the break |
| 16:46.06 | goozbach | but I'm just getting to like byobu |
| 16:47.03 | sontek | what does byobu add on top of screen that you like? |
| 16:49.09 | goozbach | it makes it pretty |
| 16:57.14 | goozbach | sontek: I don't like that I can't use the vim movement keys in the "window list" |
| 16:58.14 | goozbach | tmux does auto update the window name however, that is nice |
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| 17:10.59 | goozbach | fozzmoo: how's your daughter? |
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| 17:47.52 | elg | a very merry solstice to you all! |
| 17:49.21 | goozbach | so anyone want to guess what the Wii 2 will be called in Japan? |
| 17:49.24 | goozbach | ... |
| 17:49.32 | goozbach | Wii Ni |
| 17:49.33 | levi | Yay for days getting longer again! |
| 17:49.36 | goozbach | get it?! |
| 17:49.38 | goozbach | hah |
| 17:52.25 | harleypig | http://pictureisunrelated.com/2009/12/20/good-thing-they-built-a-popemobile/ |
| 17:52.46 | maquis | *yawn* |
| 17:53.05 | sontek | goozbach: are you using the shorten_url.rb plugin for weechat? its so nice |
| 17:53.15 | goozbach | sontek: I disabled it |
| 17:53.24 | goozbach | I didn't like qurl |
| 17:53.36 | goozbach | haven't plugged it into tinyurl or bitly yet |
| 17:53.38 | sontek | goozbach: shorten_url supports tiny, isgd, and bitly |
| 17:53.48 | sontek | defaults to tiny |
| 17:53.54 | sontek | its pretty nice |
| 17:54.06 | sontek | especially since the userlist window breaks long urls in gnome term |
| 17:55.14 | goozbach | on my screen as well |
| 17:55.16 | maquis | downloads free christmas music from amazon |
| 17:55.34 | goozbach | maybe I'm using the wrong script |
| 17:55.45 | goozbach | any of you using todo.sh? |
| 17:55.54 | goozbach | er toto.txt |
| 17:56.59 | fozzmoo | goozbach: What are you talking about? |
| 17:57.36 | goozbach | which what? |
| 17:57.42 | goozbach | weechat plugins |
| 17:58.00 | goozbach | and todo.txt (it's a bash script which manages a todo list, pretty awesome) |
| 17:58.13 | goozbach | oh yeah and how's the little one? |
| 17:58.22 | goozbach | (that's what I'm talking about" |
| 17:58.24 | goozbach | ) |
| 17:59.30 | maquis | goozbach: i ssume the question about the little one is for me... she's doing well... eating now, so im typing one-handed... :) |
| 18:00.25 | maquis | she was back to birth weight on friday, so we're excited about that |
| 18:00.32 | goozbach | maquis: well, yeah there's that little one (thanks for the update), but I was actually refering to Fozz's little one (she broke her arm yesterday) |
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| 18:01.01 | maquis | ooh... that's not fun |
| 18:01.14 | maquis | hope she's doing better |
| 18:01.16 | sontek | goozbach: http://www.weechat.org/files/scripts/url_shorten.rb |
| 18:01.22 | sontek | goozbach: thats the best one i've found |
| 18:01.47 | fozzmoo | goozbach: Yeah- Maya's certainly deliberately adventurous. |
| 18:01.51 | harleypig | http://failblog.org/2009/12/18/around-the-interwebs-10/ |
| 18:02.58 | Jayce^ | harleypig: funny, I just was showing goozbach the akbar one |
| 18:03.31 | harleypig | :] |
| 18:04.43 | goozbach | http://ginatrapani.github.com/todo.txt-cli/ |
| 18:05.24 | harleypig | you've got a movie file for a command line program? |
| 18:06.17 | goozbach | it's just a demo |
| 18:06.54 | harleypig | but ... it's a command line program! :D |
| 18:07.10 | goozbach | :) |
| 18:07.22 | goozbach | just click through to the github page and download it already |
| 18:07.47 | goozbach | or if you download my clone from github it's all setup to be "stow"ed anywhere you would like |
| 18:08.45 | harleypig | I don't use stow either ... I'm just not with it i guess |
| 18:11.06 | harleypig | http://textsfromlastnight.com/view/56495 |
| 18:11.20 | unum | xkcd is soooooo true |
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| 18:33.46 | thesuperbigfrog | ~welcome sjansen |
| 18:33.46 | ibot | Welcome to the party, sjansen! |
| 18:34.13 | sjansen | ~greet thesuperbigfrog |
| 18:34.14 | ibot | ACTION dumps a bucket of cold oatmeal on thesuperbigfrog |
| 18:40.48 | thesuperbigfrog | finds his skin rejuvenated: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001E96L7M/ |
| 18:41.24 | goozbach | sontek: I just figured out I didn't build weechat with ruby support |
| 18:43.57 | sontek | goozbach: oh noes! |
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| 18:47.35 | Jayce^ | manager just walked in, turned on his "nice" LED flashlight (since I always have lights off in my office)... |
| 18:47.45 | Jayce^ | I responded by shining back with my surefire |
| 18:48.01 | Jayce^ | don't think he'll do that again |
| 18:48.59 | goozbach | hah |
| 18:49.30 | goozbach | was this surefire attached to a rail perchance? |
| 18:49.50 | Jayce^ | no, I think I'd be in more trouble if it was in the holder at the time |
| 18:49.58 | Jayce^ | kinda hard to conceal that :) |
| 18:50.47 | Jayce^ | now he's just whining about not being able to see anymore |
| 18:50.52 | goozbach | hah |
| 18:51.04 | goozbach | he still has cooler stilts than you, right? |
| 18:51.13 | Jayce^ | true, true |
| 18:51.34 | sontek | I used to wear a headlamp to work just in case one of the PM's came in and wanted to discuss requirements, no need to turn lights on and bother all the devs |
| 18:52.28 | goozbach | I wouldn't mind an x400 |
| 18:52.36 | Jayce^ | I think my next light will be inova though |
| 18:52.46 | Nafai | The digg offices are surprisingly bright |
| 18:52.49 | Jayce^ | very nice stuff, and a little less than the surefires |
| 18:53.03 | levi | I don't understand the geek love for dimness. |
| 18:53.16 | Nafai | But at least all of the flourescent bulbs are covered on the bottom and shining up, so you don't get their direct glare |
| 18:53.29 | Nafai | levi: I've been that way my whole life for some reason |
| 18:53.31 | elg | i like natural light |
| 18:53.37 | Jayce^ | or fenix |
| 18:53.41 | elg | the choice is usually dim natural light or horrible fluourescent light |
| 18:53.47 | elg | if there's a choice at all. |
| 18:53.59 | levi | I don't have a problem with flourescent light. |
| 18:54.01 | elg | plus, bright natural light (being outside for example) usually makes it hard to see the screen. |
| 18:54.34 | levi | Staring at a bright screen when it's dim all around makes my eyes hurt. |
| 18:54.40 | elg | so, I have this C library code that I need to test. |
| 18:54.51 | thesuperbigfrog | surefires work great in urban operations |
| 18:54.52 | elg | testing the public interface is easy enough |
| 18:55.11 | Nafai | elg: Wrap it using the Haskell FFI and then use QuickCheck to test it |
| 18:55.13 | elg | but I would also like to test some of the helper functions directly, but they're static and don't show up in the public headers |
| 18:56.09 | elg | how would you solve that problem? skip it and test only the public interface, jury-rig the compilation to get access to the static members (e.g. by doing evil things like including the .c file), or something I haven't thought of? |
| 18:56.18 | levi | They don't need to show up in the public headers, they just need to have their symbols exported. |
| 18:56.49 | elg | true but they don't because they're static functios |
| 18:56.52 | elg | right? |
| 18:57.14 | levi | Check the object files. My guess is the symbols are exported anyway. |
| 18:57.51 | levi | If they're not, then I dunno. |
| 19:05.52 | levi | They're probably not, actually. So, you can include the source file in your test, or you can do some conditional compilation tricks with the preprocessor, or you can just make sure that the static functions are adequately tested by your tests of the public interface. |
| 19:07.02 | elg | i actually don't mind including the source file. if i can figure out how to do that in a way that doesn't utterly confuse autotools it would be a bonus |
| 20:12.43 | maquis | always got annoyed because there were 2 devs in her team's area that seemed to like turning the lights on when they came in |
| 20:13.10 | maquis | unfortunately, they were two of the very few devs who actually showed up in the morning |
| 20:15.37 | sontek | Yeah, we've always had 1 person who wanted lights on |
| 20:15.42 | sontek | thats why its nice to work from home now |
| 20:33.17 | tensai | Jayce^: $300 for a flashlight? that better be one impressive light. |
| 20:33.35 | Jayce^ | tensai: yeah, that's not the model I have.. but yeah, very impressive |
| 20:33.46 | Jayce^ | I've just got a g2 |
| 20:33.49 | mulicheng | I'm agreeing with Levi. Dim lights with bright monitors is hard on the eyes. I don't get the geek need for a low light level. |
| 20:34.46 | tensai | Jayce^: so what makes them so awesome |
| 20:34.58 | tensai | mulicheng: so lower the brightness on the monitor to match |
| 20:34.58 | Jayce^ | light quality, power, throw, etc |
| 20:35.59 | Jayce^ | if you want *real* critiques on what lights do the best, and why, check out http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/portal/index.php |
| 20:39.57 | tristanbob_ | Jayce^, I want to brag about my everyday carry flashlight! |
| 20:40.08 | Jayce^ | basically, this little mini-mag sized light will put out a slightly whiter, and stronger beam than a 3 D-cell mag light |
| 20:40.17 | tristanbob_ | Fenix LD01 |
| 20:40.25 | Jayce^ | tristanbob_: oh, very nice |
| 20:40.32 | Jayce^ | fenix are great |
| 20:40.39 | tensai | Jayce^: doesn't that imply the battery life is short? |
| 20:40.54 | Jayce^ | tensai: shorter, often... |
| 20:40.55 | tristanbob_ | http://www.fenixlight.com/viewproduct.asp?id=85 |
| 20:41.17 | Jayce^ | mine uses cr123a's, so better life than you would expect |
| 20:41.26 | Jayce^ | fenix has some newer ones with better AA performance |
| 20:42.09 | Jayce^ | tristanbob_: when my micro-mag dies, I'll probably go that route |
| 20:42.14 | tensai | how big is a cr123a? |
| 20:42.41 | Jayce^ | shorter, slightly fatter than a AA |
| 20:42.59 | Jayce^ | a lot better shelf life, better life throughout the charge too |
| 20:43.11 | Jayce^ | 3v, though the rechargables are 3.6 |
| 20:43.33 | Jayce^ | learned that when I switched to LED, because the xenon bullbs die if you use the rechargeables |
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| 20:43.56 | Jayce^ | tristanbob_: my friend has the ta 30 iirc... very nice AA light |
| 20:44.00 | mulicheng | why do they die? |
| 20:45.36 | Jayce^ | can't handle the voltage difference |
| 20:45.49 | mulicheng | The rechargable start out too high voltage? |
| 20:46.08 | Jayce^ | yeah, 3.6 |
| 20:46.27 | Jayce^ | but cr123's stay the same voltage the whole time, part of the reason for using them |
| 20:46.39 | mulicheng | Makes sense |
| 20:46.42 | Jayce^ | and why they're so #@$@# much more money :) |
| 20:46.54 | mulicheng | They draw more current at the higher voltage and probably get too hot or something. |
| 20:47.00 | Jayce^ | yup |
| 20:47.10 | Jayce^ | the LED's don't get the heat, and can control their usag |
| 20:47.11 | Jayce^ | e |
| 20:47.28 | mulicheng | I have a completely different application (rc stuff) but have a lot of experience with batteries. |
| 20:47.43 | mulicheng | 123s are very popular for powering receivers. |
| 20:48.16 | Jayce^ | yeah |
| 20:48.25 | Jayce^ | camera's are starting to use them more too |
| 20:48.44 | Jayce^ | I buy most of mine from chineese places on ebay, etc now :) way cheaper |
| 20:49.08 | Jayce^ | bought a pack of rechargeables and a charger for the price of two surefire branded batteries |
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| 20:53.10 | mulicheng | The last battery I purchased cost $40 :) |
| 20:53.14 | mulicheng | Not even a very big one. |
| 20:53.47 | mulicheng | But it can peak output 110 Amps (not for very long though) |
| 21:00.50 | tristanbob_ | http://www.amazon.com/Fenix-mini-LD01-Lumens-Flashlight/dp/B001K3HJXM |
| 21:01.28 | tristanbob_ | just keep a handful of AAA batteries around and this light will work for many years |
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| 22:06.47 | sjansen | elg: Do you get to play with Haskell at FB? |
| 22:07.41 | Nafai | I should interview at Facebook if they do :) |
| 22:08.09 | elg | there is rumor on the wind of people dabbling in haskell. i haven't found it within me to desire to look at haskell yet, but if I did I'd be able to. |
| 22:08.09 | Nafai | I might eventually move to the bay area |
| 22:08.09 | elg | chat is written in erlang. |
| 22:08.09 | Nafai | I'd *love* to work with Haskell full-time |
| 22:09.10 | elg | a quick search on the internal wiki shows at least one project (an SRE project) written in haskell |
| 22:09.24 | Nafai | elg: Yeah, http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/9iiks/facebooks_lexpass_tool_automate_changes_to_a_php/ |
| 22:10.35 | sontek | Nafai: what do you like about haskell vs python? |
| 22:11.34 | Nafai | static typing is the big thing |
| 22:11.45 | Nafai | the sooner I can find errors, the better |
| 22:12.05 | Nafai | with flymake and a few tweaks, I can find syntax and type errors in Emacs as I am writing my Haskell code |
| 22:12.26 | Nafai | many similar errors will not be found until runtime (i.e., like typos in variable names) in Python or at all |
| 22:12.35 | Nafai | Or only with very very very extensive unit tests |
| 22:13.40 | sjansen | The scary thing about Haskell is it's much harder to reason about execution time. |
| 22:14.06 | sjansen | Or memory requirements. |
| 22:14.30 | Nafai | sure, but there are techniques you can use to manage those things |
| 22:14.34 | Nafai | and tools |
| 22:14.48 | Nafai | but I'd rather be able to reason about correctness and then deal with those things |
| 22:15.17 | sjansen | Absolute correctness is surprising unimportant to most problems. |
| 22:16.07 | sjansen | In the hands of an expert, Haskell can be impressively fast and lightweight. |
| 22:16.29 | Nafai | But even a minimum level of correctness compared to something like Python is very attainable |
| 22:17.23 | Nafai | Plus tools like quickcheck make doing testing very easy |
| 22:17.23 | sjansen | Compared to Python, though, Haskell is very unforgiving of novices. With a little work, just about anyone can bang out a reasonable Python script. Using Haskell reliably requires more mental effort. |
| 22:18.10 | Nafai | Sure, I've been tinkering with Haskell for a few years and I'm not nearlly as proficient with it as I was with Python over a very small amount of time |
| 22:18.35 | Nafai | But I still think of things in terms of types and other abstractions that are not very Pythonic |
| 22:22.52 | sjansen | So even though sontek didn't ask my opinion of Haskell vs Python: Haskell will never conquer the world, although many of the ideas in it are gradually doing so. Learning Haskell is a great way to stretch oneself mentally, to grow from code monkey to computer scientist. Unless you're working on some really hard, cutting edge problems, it's an inappropriate choice for most work environments. |
| 22:23.16 | Nafai | That last part saddens me |
| 22:23.52 | Nafai | It's an exhibit of the reality of the attitude of having to pick things for the lowest common deminator |
| 22:25.27 | sontek | Yeah, I actually worked for a .NET shop that did code reviews (which I like) but they'd make me dumb down any code I wrote so that it was easier to read... but the "dumb down" was language features they just didn't like |
| 22:25.43 | sontek | like ternary operator, null coelescing operating, and lamdas |
| 22:25.48 | sontek | operator* |
| 22:25.55 | sjansen | No, PHP is the lowest common denominator. |
| 22:26.59 | sontek | sjansen: lower than VB? |
| 22:27.11 | sjansen | Sometimes. |
| 22:27.35 | Nafai | sontek: lame |
| 22:27.43 | tensai | rewrites sjansen in PHP |
| 22:27.57 | Nafai | sontek: that would be a sign for me to leave :) |
| 22:27.58 | sontek | ~php sjansen |
| 22:28.51 | goozbach | SVK was EOL'ed back in May? |
| 22:29.12 | goozbach | http://lists.bestpractical.com/pipermail/svk-devel/2009-May/001224.html |
| 22:29.36 | Nafai | I wouldn't want to use anything based on SVN any more anyway :) |
| 22:30.33 | goozbach | me either |
| 22:30.44 | sjansen | Good riddance. SVK was an abomination. All of the distributed, none of the easy to use. Even arch was less annoying than SVK. |
| 22:30.44 | goozbach | that was more of a satirical comment |
| 22:30.56 | goozbach | along the lines of "I hadn't noticed, so wow" |
| 22:31.07 | goozbach | sjansen: did you even *USE* tla? |
| 22:31.13 | Nafai | haha |
| 22:31.20 | Nafai | arch was so confusing |
| 22:31.23 | Jayce^ | sjansen: svk sure made it better when you had to work with svn though.. especially way back when |
| 22:31.25 | sjansen | No, I just read it's docs to try to understand the original bzr. |
| 22:31.50 | goozbach | I want to invent a new SCM system so I can have an opinion on the health care crisis |
| 22:31.52 | sjansen | s/bzr/baz/ |
| 22:31.53 | eggyknap | Video people: I've gotta overlay images from a computer screen on a live video stream, in realtime. Suggestions on hardware/software I should use? |
| 22:32.10 | goozbach | (just for old times sake) |
| 22:32.14 | goozbach | ~tla sjansen |
| 22:32.19 | goozbach | ~tla |
| 22:32.20 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, tla is Three Letter Acronym, or the name of the binary for GNU arch |
| 22:32.25 | tensai | svk was a nice way to introduce me to distributed scm. I've since moved on to git. |
| 22:32.37 | Jayce^ | tensai: exactly |
| 22:32.40 | goozbach | what happened to my tla factiod? |
| 22:32.40 | Nafai | git is the only way to go |
| 22:32.42 | goozbach | :( |
| 22:32.47 | sjansen | ~git++ |
| 22:33.07 | Nafai | luckily more and more companies are using it |
| 22:33.08 | tensai | Jayce^: unfortunately I have a major archive still using svk |
| 22:33.18 | Nafai | so I don't have to suffer through git-svn |
| 22:33.34 | sjansen | eggyknap: I'm not an expert, but I know you could probably whip something together with gst-launch. |
| 22:33.44 | Jayce^ | aaaand I'm still stuck with cvs :( |
| 22:34.15 | levi | Perforce FTW! ;) |
| 22:34.25 | goozbach | I just used cvs for the first time in over two years today |
| 22:34.38 | thesuperbigfrog | ~lart p4 |
| 22:34.38 | ibot | whips out a sword and chops p4 in half |
| 22:34.44 | goozbach | it was to download the latest tmux |
| 22:34.53 | eggyknap | had a standalone box that did it all, but 1) it crapped out way too young, 2) replacements aren't easily available, it seems, and 3) what replacements there are are *really* expensive ($700) |
| 22:34.57 | Nafai | Jayce^: Wow :( |
| 22:35.53 | Jayce^ | SourceSafe |
| 22:36.17 | sjansen | Jayce^: I recently built a VM to experiment with packaging Freeside, but ended up Yak shaving git-cvs. Add me to the data points for CVS holding back Freeside. |
| 22:36.32 | Jayce^ | you did, finally? |
| 22:36.50 | tensai | eggyknap: I think the tricaster would do that, but it appears to be rather pricey |
| 22:37.13 | Jayce^ | the main point of freeside still being on it is it's what the build tools have been using, and ivan hasn't had time to convert everything |
| 22:37.26 | eggyknap | tensai: looks like it ($5k... ouch) |
| 22:37.43 | tensai | Jayce^: novell groupwise used an in-house scm which was 100x worse than sourcesafe. I hope for their sakes they've abandoned it. |
| 22:37.45 | eggyknap | The box we had was ~ $150, as I understand it ... but it was purchased before this job got thrust on me. |
| 22:44.34 | harleypig | http://boysoffloyd.com/2008/12/25/the-reality-of-it/ |
| 22:44.39 | harleypig | Thank Jayce^ :> |
| 22:44.56 | Jayce^ | :) |
| 22:47.18 | goozbach | harleypig: I counter with: http://boysoffloyd.com/2008/12/31/the-heart/ |
| 22:47.46 | Jayce^ | can't safely counter in public with the one he'd use |
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| 23:11.46 | Sargun | http://pastebin.com/d3c8a1086 |
| 23:11.46 | Sargun | haha |
| 23:28.54 | sontek | ... I just had to write a bash script for my sis to rename all her images from .JPG to .jpg so that myspace would let her upload them |
| 23:29.24 | sontek | 1. myspace is retarded for that 2. can't believe I took the time to help her get photos onto myspace |
| 23:31.20 | thesuperbigfrog | sontek: rename? |
| 23:35.27 | sontek | thesuperbigfrog: used awk |
| 23:36.26 | thesuperbigfrog | sontek: man rename |
| 23:36.27 | JoshH | link to her pics? |
| 23:37.44 | thesuperbigfrog | sontek: (I believe rename requires perl, but it comes with most distros) |
| 23:39.33 | JoshH | mine seems to be from perl |
| 23:40.24 | JoshH | more correctly, it points to prename, which is from perl |
| 23:40.38 | whiteinge | sontek: I'm surprised you didn't use Vim! |
| 23:40.54 | tensai | thesuperbigfrog: rename is pretty cool |
| 23:41.19 | sontek | JoshH: http://i.imgur.com/FZ3Fw.jpg |
| 23:41.34 | thesuperbigfrog | whiteinge: how would you bulk rename files with vim? |
| 23:43.38 | JoshH | sontek, not bad |
| 23:44.47 | whiteinge | thesuperbigfrog: I'm surprised to say there isn't a tip in the VimTips wiki for that! I guess I'll have to write one up. Here's the gist: |
| 23:45.52 | whiteinge | you read the list of files with ``\ls | vim -``, one file per line |
| 23:46.32 | whiteinge | do your vim thing to make each line a command: ``mv file newfile`` |
| 23:46.57 | whiteinge | then write the file to sh: ``:w !sh`` which will execute each line sequentially |
| 23:47.41 | Nafai | emacs can do that natively without calling out to the shell |
| 23:47.43 | whiteinge | (once you've gone through the process once or twice, it is much quicker than it sounds. :) |
| 23:48.09 | sontek | whiteinge: I prefer to keep my vim as an editor not a file manager ;) |
| 23:48.16 | whiteinge | Nafai: calling out to the shell is the way God indended it to work. |
| 23:48.23 | whiteinge | sontek: You're thinking of Emacs. |
| 23:48.48 | whiteinge | Nafai: see: "Unix is an IDE" |
| 23:48.49 | Nafai | suuuuuuuuuuure. |
| 23:49.37 | thesuperbigfrog | starts to feel hot and takes a step back |
| 23:50.27 | thesuperbigfrog | whiteinge: so you are essentially building a script on the fly. It works. |
| 23:52.13 | whiteinge | thesuperbigfrog: oh, that's a great way to phrase it. |
| 23:52.18 | whiteinge | goes off to write a wiki page |
| 23:54.23 | thesuperbigfrog | realizes that perl has warped his problem-solving approach |
| 23:56.20 | sontek | I kind of proud of my sis, shes been googling gimp tutorials and installed her own gstreamer plugins with aptitude this morning |
| 23:56.36 | sontek | She promised to go through vimtutor when shes done uploading pics to myspace ;) |
| 23:56.46 | thesuperbigfrog | wow |
| 23:58.05 | sontek | shes going to be a badass python hacker when i'm done with her |
