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| 01:13.25 | thesuperbigfrog | decides it's time to go home :) |
| 01:37.56 | eightyeight | whatever happened to emacs.net that was coming out of redmond? |
| 01:38.12 | eightyeight | it's been 2 years since they announced it, and i want a status report |
| 01:45.15 | fugue88 | It's been renamed to "Emacs Longhorn." |
| 01:45.18 | fugue88 | :D |
| 01:49.11 | sontek | Emacs has been in development for 20yrs, it takes awhile |
| 01:49.14 | sontek | :P |
| 01:50.26 | sontek | eightyeight: I think its called oslo or intellipad now though, I don't remember |
| 01:50.31 | sontek | they did release something |
| 01:50.41 | sontek | here we go Well Matt's car has been broken down for over a week now. He hasn't missed it much since I've been here LANning everyday so I would just drive him around or he'd be with his gf. But we finally decided it was time to stop being lazy and actually work on it. What happened was while he was driving down a dirt road the gas tank dislodged and wasn't in the hole anymore. So we did a little african |
| 01:50.43 | sontek | american engineering and duct taped the pipe back to the seem and then clamped it down: worked beautifully. So now his car is running and we're working on our site that we've been slacking on for awhile. |
| 01:50.46 | sontek | whoops |
| 01:50.53 | sontek | didn't mean to copy that out of my browser |
| 01:50.57 | sontek | http://blogs.msdn.com/intellipad/ |
| 01:51.00 | sontek | thats what I meant to paste |
| 01:55.01 | eightyeight | clicks |
| 01:57.00 | eightyeight | interesting |
| 02:01.17 | eightyeight | so, it's something that sits on top of visual studio? |
| 02:02.57 | maquis | is very interested in the discussions on the various writing blogs about the fact that one of the popular (and very well known) bloggers who has been going under the name "James" is actually a woman who used that as a pseudonym after discovering she could get paid twice as much as a male freelance writer than a female |
| 02:03.47 | maquis | lots of people bashing her, saying she shouldn't've taken a pseudonym because it wasn't good for feminism and stuff like that |
| 02:04.39 | maquis | also some people bashing her because she had built an entire persona around the name... which makes perfect sense to me. if you're going to take a pseudonym of the opposite gender, you kind-of do need a bit of a backstory, etc... |
| 02:05.15 | eightyeight | gotta link? |
| 02:05.53 | maquis | i think this one's the first of the posts about it: |
| 02:05.55 | maquis | http://www.copyblogger.com/james-chartrand-underpants/ |
| 02:06.09 | maquis | wow... that link almost sounds bad... |
| 02:07.28 | maquis | funny thing is, i actually spent over a year on an RPG that james was one of the STs for, and didn't have the slightest idea :) |
| 02:07.57 | eightyeight | people who get their panties all in a twist over crap like this shouldn't be on the internet |
| 02:08.04 | maquis | yeah... |
| 02:08.10 | eightyeight | (pun intended) |
| 02:09.16 | maquis | i can totally understand james' view on all this... i actually threw a comment in there to say as much, but i've definitely seen enough stuff in the computer field... i hadn't thought there was much sexism in some other fields like writing, but i know for a fact that it exists in computers... |
| 02:10.06 | maquis | i mean... honestly, i've even |
| 02:10.22 | maquis | caught myself judging in a sexist way before |
| 02:15.11 | Sargun_Screen | maquis: OTR: I know some people that are afraid to give women interviews as they are afraid if they say no, it'll be blamed on gender. |
| 02:15.23 | maquis | Sargun_Screen: yeah... |
| 02:16.00 | maquis | i've also been told, in an interview, that they were interested in me because they hadn't hit their quota of females in the department. I decided that the company doing the interview was not one i was interested in |
| 02:16.22 | maquis | sorry, but i don't want to get a job just because some company needs to hit their quotas |
| 02:17.51 | eightyeight | i had an interview because they just had to go through the motions, even when he said straight to my face i wasn't getting the position |
| 02:17.58 | eightyeight | it was for a promotion |
| 02:18.44 | eightyeight | "we're only giving you this interview, because you applied for it, and you meet the company requirements for the position. but, we'll be choosing someone else" |
| 02:19.02 | maquis | ick |
| 02:20.40 | eightyeight | it was at that point, that i realized what a crappy company i worked for, and i was eager to get out |
| 02:21.03 | eightyeight | you know, it's funny. i have more experiences like that in big corporate environments than smaller ones |
| 02:22.25 | maquis | i've been lucky enough to have good experiences at all 2 companies i've ever worked for |
| 02:25.23 | eightyeight | i wish i could say that, but sadly, that hasn't been the case |
| 02:31.45 | maquis | i figure i better not try my luck with too many more places :) |
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| 02:41.50 | Papagajcic | anyone here :) |
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| 02:50.54 | levi | I'm here. :P |
| 02:57.00 | Sargun_Screen | maquis: In China we get fined if we don't hire enough females |
| 02:59.56 | levi | The only female software people I've seen hired have been Indian girls. |
| 03:00.13 | levi | Apparently they didn't get the memo that it's not cool for girls to go into software. |
| 03:15.58 | Sargun_Screen | Haha |
| 03:16.09 | Sargun_Screen | levi: wow, you're right, all our female programmers are indian |
| 03:59.16 | maquis | most of the female programmers i know are indian as well |
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| 03:59.45 | Zelut | the one indian employee we had (until recent layoffs) was female as well. java developer. |
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| 04:08.13 | sontek | I only know one female programmer and shes just a normal whitey from san fran :P |
| 04:08.25 | maquis | sontek: you don't know me? |
| 04:08.42 | maquis | i thought we were facebook friends... |
| 04:08.58 | maquis | goes off to the corner to cry |
| 04:10.09 | jalbretsen | knows maquis |
| 04:10.35 | jalbretsen | oooo maquis, how did you like the new Trek movie this summer? |
| 04:11.05 | maquis | is glad that *somebody* cares about her... |
| 04:11.10 | maquis | jalbretsen: it was pretty good |
| 04:12.07 | jalbretsen | I still need to watch it with commentaries |
| 04:18.40 | sontek | maquis: I know of you! You were too cool to ever come to Utah and actually meet me! |
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| 04:25.08 | maquis | sontek: i was in utah for 4 years |
| 04:25.14 | maquis | :P |
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| 05:36.21 | Migs | http://www.geekologie.com/2009/12/techno_song_made_with_actual_j.php |
| 05:47.13 | sontek | maquis: haha, I did 3 1/2, i'm in Florida now |
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| 06:12.01 | j_anon | So my friend hasn't logged on all evening. |
| 06:12.59 | j_anon | And it occurs to me that chatting with my friend in the evening is practically the only thing keeping me going through the day. |
| 06:12.59 | j_anon | So I went onto IRC to punish myself. |
| 06:14.46 | Migs | that sucks |
| 06:15.01 | Migs | is he usually online every night? |
| 06:15.31 | j_anon | Well, sometimes he's out partying and stuff. Then I wait until the morning and chat with him hungover. |
| 06:15.42 | j_anon | But there's also good news today, |
| 06:16.05 | j_anon | because I discovered that if i touch my teeth with my tongue sideways, it feels like I'm a sweetass alien monster with a sideways mouth |
| 06:16.21 | Migs | that IS fantastic news |
| 06:16.39 | Migs | well if you're bored I'm live streaming from my piano right now: http://christmas.justinreeve.com |
| 06:17.14 | j_anon | as a matter of fact, I am |
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| 06:33.13 | maquis | that was weird |
| 07:24.58 | eightyeight | uh, yeah |
| 07:25.01 | eightyeight | from both ends |
| 07:25.52 | eightyeight | how do you both type on irc and stream live christmas from your piano at the same time? |
| 07:40.58 | maquis | eightyeight: Migs was not the one i was referring to : |
| 07:41.00 | maquis | ) |
| 09:09.40 | Migs | you get used to typing and playing |
| 09:09.44 | Migs | as long as you keep your typing short |
| 09:10.19 | Migs | it's like the guys who play two instruments at once...it CAN be done |
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| 15:21.59 | herlo | ERGS Installfest TODAY from 10-5 - http://sn.im/tp0j9 |
| 15:24.40 | eightyeight | maquis: i know who you were referring to |
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| 17:19.22 | maquis | eightyeight: :) |
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| 17:48.39 | goozbach | any sed experts floating around |
| 17:48.40 | goozbach | ? |
| 17:48.59 | goozbach | I want to move each word which starts with a "+" to the beginning of a line |
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| 17:53.53 | goozbach | here's what I've got thus far |
| 17:53.54 | goozbach | http://gist.github.com/260165 |
| 18:02.28 | maquis | my ears hurt |
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| 18:13.49 | sontek | http://bash.org/?904301 |
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| 19:53.48 | goozbach | sontek: check out http://github.com/goozbach/dot_files |
| 19:54.02 | goozbach | I've got a makefile which will auto-link your dotfiles into place |
| 19:54.33 | goozbach | and you name them _foo in the project folder, so you can see them without doing ls -a |
| 20:07.56 | sontek | goozbach: nice! |
| 20:08.00 | sontek | goozbach: I might steal ^_^ |
| 20:12.10 | goozbach | steal away |
| 20:12.23 | goozbach | it works quite well |
| 20:12.35 | goozbach | the last bug I fixed in it was to make it more portable |
| 20:12.54 | goozbach | it will skip over a directory if it already exists |
| 22:05.52 | markl_ | http://i.imgur.com/YRoqC.jpg |
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