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| 00:15.12 | {-} | You can't claim to know a language well until you recognize all the reasons it sucks. |
| 00:16.42 | {-} | harleypig: yelp |
| 00:17.14 | harleypig | ? |
| 00:17.28 | harleypig | I agree ... but what are you talking about? |
| 00:17.52 | harleypig | or, why did you bring that up? |
| 00:18.27 | eightyeight | {-} was dropped on his head when he was born. pay no mind to him |
| 00:18.47 | harleypig | I'm assuming that was not the last time as well. |
| 00:19.31 | {-} | /usr/bin/yelp can be used as a graphical info browser, among other things |
| 00:19.45 | harleypig | ah, nice. thanks |
| 00:21.46 | {-} | harleypig: As payment I demand that you visit eightyeight's office and belly dance for him. |
| 00:23.35 | harleypig | Can I wear my new bright yellow and orange spandex outfit? |
| 00:30.21 | eightyeight | sorry. i don't have any ones |
| 00:30.39 | harleypig | I'll take any denomination. |
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| 00:38.33 | eightyeight | {-}: very nice. didn't know that about yelp. that makes info pages less annoying |
| 00:38.44 | eightyeight | on an order of magnitude, even |
| 00:39.07 | fugue88 | It crashed for me while trying to open the Emacs info page. |
| 00:39.26 | fugue88 | Only Emacs can read Emacs' info page, I guess. ;) |
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| 16:08.05 | Nafai | Hi from the Kynetx Impact conference |
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| 16:19.13 | goozbach | Nafai: having fun? |
| 16:19.30 | Nafai | Yeah, this stuff looks very interesting |
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| 17:22.09 | sjansen | http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-november-16-2009/law---order--ksm <-- 0:00 - 3:30 kinda annoying, 3;30 - 5:30 kinda funny, 5:30 - end hah! |
| 17:23.26 | brac | [Video: Law & Order: KSM | The Daily Show | Comedy Central] |
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| 17:48.57 | brasto | eightyeight: quote of the day goes to you, with "Don't flatter yourself. Every operating system sucks." Hah hah! Love it! |
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| 18:10.05 | harleypig | http://hawtness.com/2009/11/19/wtf-girl-photo-hey-you-forgot-some-pads/ |
| 18:10.10 | harleypig | http://thereifixedit.com/2009/11/19/now-i-can-surf-the-web-and-apply-mascara/ |
| 18:10.17 | harleypig | http://pictureisunrelated.com/2009/11/18/i-would-pay-to-collect-that-data/ |
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| 19:26.02 | goozbach | anyone know how to get hte system UUID out of a windows machine ala dmidecode? |
| 19:26.33 | JoshH | maybe something like sandra |
| 19:26.38 | JoshH | but not sure |
| 19:43.02 | brasto | Fedora is t3h awesome? what is t3h? |
| 19:43.08 | brasto | ~t3h |
| 19:43.14 | sontek | When flying within europe, what sites do you guys look at for prices? |
| 19:43.36 | brasto | ibot, where are you? |
| 19:43.36 | ibot | I am at 42.37512 N, 72.51999 W |
| 19:43.42 | brasto | lol |
| 19:43.51 | brasto | ~t3h |
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| 20:37.59 | jsmith-teaching | sontek: Check out lastminute.com |
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| 21:01.55 | brasto | ~dict t3h |
| 21:04.18 | goozbach | brasto: the |
| 21:04.22 | goozbach | in leetspeak |
| 21:04.33 | goozbach | :) |
| 21:05.00 | brasto | i thought it might be, but i though it would be th3, nto t3y |
| 21:05.14 | brasto | (nto was intentional... thought it was fitting... lol) |
| 21:05.26 | brasto | t3h, that is |
| 21:05.44 | goozbach | 3 is usually subsitutive for E |
| 21:05.51 | goozbach | cause it's just a mirror which is wavy |
| 21:06.23 | brasto | yea, but if you flip the e in the, you get th3, nto t3h |
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| 21:09.07 | goozbach | the is also transposed as teh |
| 21:09.16 | goozbach | so it's double encoded |
| 21:09.32 | goozbach | the -> teh -> t3h |
| 21:09.43 | goozbach | fedora is teh awesome |
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| 21:48.04 | fozzmoo | listens to the crickets. |
| 21:58.10 | Nafai | of the mormon flavor? |
| 22:01.01 | fozzmoo | Never tasted the Mormon flavor. :) |
| 22:01.03 | Jayce^ | harleypig: so, I hear you had a good day again :) |
| 22:01.23 | fozzmoo | So, Jayce^, you're not going to see New Moon tonight? |
| 22:01.30 | Jayce^ | hehe |
| 22:01.55 | Nafai | I think my wife hinted for me to take her to it |
| 22:01.59 | fozzmoo | I think my old neighborhood is gonna be womenless. |
| 22:02.07 | Nafai | But I'll pretend I didn't notice |
| 22:02.08 | Jayce^ | Nafai: no no, just *send* her to it |
| 22:02.23 | Nafai | I'll make her go to it with my sister next week during Thanksgiving |
| 22:02.32 | JoshH | fortunately my wife thinks twilight is pretty stupid |
| 22:02.33 | Nafai | I suffered through Twilight with her |
| 22:03.03 | fozzmoo | I liked the first movie, but concede that it was made for people who had already read the book. |
| 22:03.09 | JoshH | she got dragged to the first movie by a couple of her mormon friends, and hated it |
| 22:03.23 | fozzmoo | Yeah, if you haven't read the book, it's pretty pointless. |
| 22:03.36 | fozzmoo | I've read them all, even her non-Twilight book. :) |
| 22:03.52 | JoshH | she tried to read the first book on a strong recommendation, not knowing much about it, and made it about 20 pages in |
| 22:03.53 | Nafai | my wife tried to make me read her non-Twilight book with her |
| 22:04.01 | Nafai | I gave up |
| 22:04.06 | JoshH | we both like watching true blood though |
| 22:04.09 | Nafai | I told her I didn't want to be that much into a woman's head |
| 22:04.17 | fozzmoo | Nafai: hee hee. |
| 22:04.47 | Nafai | JoshH: My wife is into the series and the books as well of True Blood. I haven't yet watched with her though. |
| 22:04.58 | JoshH | from what i've heard the books are stupid, and the show is a lot better |
| 22:05.06 | fozzmoo | I've been casually watching The Vampire Diaries on CW |
| 22:05.34 | fozzmoo | It's... okay. Nothing like Buffy, but there's only one Whedon. |
| 22:05.46 | fozzmoo | So far, the characters are still pretty 1-dimensional. |
| 22:06.11 | fozzmoo | Meanwhile, Dollhouse is blowing my mind. :) |
| 22:06.38 | mrpull | i cant believe the amount of twilight induced mental retardation exists around me |
| 22:07.04 | fozzmoo | It's funny reading my Facebook news feed today- with all the chicks talking about staying up late tonight for the premiere. |
| 22:07.13 | JoshH | it's like hannah montana taken to the next level |
| 22:08.10 | fozzmoo | JoshH: Way to go, clear the room. |
| 22:08.24 | mrpull | i was looking for my Hanah Montana tapes |
| 22:12.01 | JoshH | ebert gave new moon one star |
| 22:14.14 | mrpull | i like to tell the females in the family that they are glorifying (badly written) softcore porn when they gush about the vampires |
| 22:14.58 | elg | i like to say the same thing about utah's fascination with (bad) dancing |
| 22:16.12 | fozzmoo | elg: Huh? |
| 22:16.27 | elg | it's not as pervasive as say twilight |
| 22:16.43 | fozzmoo | elg: I just know that some really good dancers have come out of Utah. |
| 22:16.46 | elg | but utah has this undercurrent of being obsessed about things like ethnic dance and ballroom dance |
| 22:17.03 | elg | yes, it's not the dancers |
| 22:17.09 | elg | or ballroom dance |
| 22:17.16 | JoshH | mrpull: there was a letter in the desnews about how the harry potter and twilight crazes are embracing devils, maybe you could try that angle |
| 22:17.16 | fozzmoo | The obsession itself? |
| 22:17.18 | elg | it's the utahns obsession with it |
| 22:17.25 | fozzmoo | gotcha. |
| 22:17.37 | elg | it's an "ok" way to get their sensuality fix |
| 22:17.49 | JoshH | well, utah also leads the country in internet porn |
| 22:18.05 | fozzmoo | JoshH: Utah Valley, specifically. |
| 22:18.23 | JoshH | i think san juan county was up there too, iirc |
| 22:18.40 | JoshH | or maybe sanpete or something |
| 22:18.45 | JoshH | i didn't even know they had internet access there |
| 22:19.35 | fozzmoo | That reminds me, I need to finish editing that interview with Pete Ashdown. |
| 22:19.39 | fozzmoo | powers up the Winbloze box. |
| 22:19.46 | JoshH | porn reminds you of pete? |
| 22:20.12 | fozzmoo | Yeah, but not as much as talking about whether Internet exists in San Juan County. |
| 22:20.17 | elg | pr0n, p8et |
| 22:20.18 | elg | same thing |
| 22:20.24 | JoshH | ah, gotcha |
| 22:21.29 | mrpull | i do it as a joke, but in seriousness, if those books evoke the exact same feelings as consuming pornography i'd say it isn't healthy |
| 22:22.20 | pashdown_ | i'm not that sexy |
| 22:22.27 | sjansen | Nausea? Vertigo? Claustrophobia? |
| 22:22.42 | harleypig | Jayce^: yep :> |
| 22:22.55 | harleypig | I've been in the mood to provoke someone for a couple of days |
| 22:23.13 | sjansen | ~provoke harleypig |
| 22:23.18 | Nafai | mrpull: no disagreements there |
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| 22:24.02 | sjansen | blames romanovic |
| 22:24.13 | pashdown | i don't know why irssi blows my nick every now and then |
| 22:24.31 | goozbach | pashdown: cause it wants you to switch to weechat |
| 22:24.47 | pashdown | haven't heard of it, is it curses based? |
| 22:24.51 | goozbach | yup |
| 22:24.57 | Heartsbane | is that chat that smells like wee? |
| 22:25.00 | goozbach | and has a built-in nicklist toolbar |
| 22:25.11 | RyanE | and you control it with a weemote? |
| 22:25.14 | goozbach | pretty nice |
| 22:25.27 | Nafai | I need a better IRC client and a better irc/im proxy |
| 22:25.27 | eightyeight | i couldn't get into weechat |
| 22:25.30 | romanovic | what am i blamed for today |
| 22:25.36 | goozbach | it's got everything I wanted irssi to have, but without the scripts |
| 22:25.40 | eightyeight | although i like the python scripting support |
| 22:25.54 | goozbach | scripting support in gobs of languages |
| 22:25.55 | JoshH | it should only add the _ if you're already on with the same nick (or if someone else is) |
| 22:25.57 | eightyeight | yeah |
| 22:26.11 | Nafai | That's the biggest annoyance in irssi, only Perl support |
| 22:26.13 | goozbach | Nafai: weechat+ screen |
| 22:26.26 | goozbach | on an always connected box |
| 22:26.53 | Nafai | goozbach: I still prefer having a proxy so I can connect multiple clients |
| 22:26.54 | eightyeight | goozbach: did they fix the activity window numbers to be numerical rather than first activity sorted? |
| 22:27.03 | Nafai | I'm doing irssi + screen + proxy |
| 22:27.12 | goozbach | eightyeight: doesn't look like it |
| 22:27.22 | eightyeight | Nafai: you know irssi supports proxy right? |
| 22:27.27 | eightyeight | goozbach: that wis my biggest gripe |
| 22:27.31 | eightyeight | *was |
| 22:27.38 | Nafai | eightyeight: it's own |
| 22:27.47 | goozbach | I think it makes sense |
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| 22:27.59 | goozbach | wouldn't be too hard to change that I don't think |
| 22:28.16 | Nafai | I already have a set up with bip + bitlbee + irssi + screen. I really want to rewrite bip in Twisted |
| 22:28.19 | eightyeight | heh |
| 22:28.30 | eightyeight | just rolled my own knoppix iso. guess the size. :) |
| 22:28.33 | harleypig | what is bip? |
| 22:28.41 | Nafai | harleypig: irc proxy |
| 22:28.45 | eightyeight | 666 MB |
| 22:28.52 | goozbach | hah! |
| 22:29.07 | sjansen | Does weechat support desktop notification so I don't miss any critical IRC messages? |
| 22:29.27 | Nafai | harleypig: This is what I use: http://www.travishartwell.net/blog/2006/04/20_1810 |
| 22:29.28 | brac | [Finally, a Near Ideal IRC and Instant Messaging Setup :: Travis B. Hartwell / Software Craftsman] |
| 22:29.45 | sjansen | Can I order pizza from weechat? |
| 22:30.06 | Nafai | sjansen: I actually have some scripts in irssi plus a ssh reverse tunnel and a local python client for notification to do that |
| 22:30.23 | goozbach | sjansen: if not it'd be easy to script |
| 22:30.26 | sjansen | What happens if I get weechat wet? |
| 22:30.53 | sjansen | What happens if I feed weechat after midnight? |
| 22:31.03 | harleypig | Nafai: reading |
| 22:31.34 | harleypig | Nafai: Your second header is misspelt: 'Sever setup' |
| 22:31.44 | Nafai | Whoops :) |
| 22:32.40 | harleypig | :] not being nitpicky ... just pointing it out |
| 22:33.05 | Nafai | np |
| 22:33.44 | sjansen | Nafai: Bah, too much work. IRC isn't that important. |
| 22:33.59 | eightyeight | *gasp!* |
| 22:34.01 | harleypig | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:34.05 | eightyeight | ~shoot sjansen |
| 22:34.06 | ibot | ACTION shoots sjansen in the head with a glue gun! |
| 22:34.09 | eightyeight | ~poop on sjansen |
| 22:34.13 | Nafai | Didn't take that long |
| 22:34.18 | Jayce^ | dude, you know it's bad when harleypig calls you old |
| 22:34.39 | Nafai | And I've got 3 1/2 years of logs here |
| 22:35.23 | goozbach | I must be going on 6 years of logs... |
| 22:35.32 | harleypig | Nafai: hmmm ... can you connect from multiple locations concurrently (e.g., home desktop, phone, work desktop, kids desktop)? |
| 22:35.59 | Nafai | Yes |
| 22:36.06 | Nafai | That's why I used this set up |
| 22:36.07 | harleypig | Interesting |
| 22:36.20 | Nafai | I had a persistent client at work and one at home |
| 22:37.38 | harleypig | I like your second to last to do at the bottom ... |
| 22:37.53 | harleypig | have you gotten anywhere on your NafAI |
| 22:37.56 | harleypig | ... |
| 22:38.08 | harleypig | or are you an Eliza bot. |
| 22:38.45 | Nafai | Nope :( |
| 22:38.55 | goozbach | harleypig: I haven't ever seen him on irc directly |
| 22:38.57 | goozbach | .... |
| 22:39.05 | goozbach | shoulder surfing I mean... |
| 22:39.11 | Nafai | My bot would probably be a little more snarky |
| 22:39.12 | harleypig | hmmm |
| 22:39.37 | goozbach | maybe next time I see him in person I'll pull out my phone and try to communicate with Nafai via irc and see if he responds |
| 22:39.39 | harleypig | We need our own Bucket ... ibot is ok, but she's nowhere near Bucket's level of responsiveness |
| 22:39.49 | harleypig | goozbach: :D |
| 22:40.14 | sjansen | You dare insult ibot?! |
| 22:40.17 | sjansen | ~insult harleypig |
| 22:40.41 | harleypig | I am *not* unintelligent! |
| 22:41.01 | harleypig | sjansen: I didn't insult her! It was a left handed compliment! |
| 22:41.42 | goozbach | Bucket is a cool bot |
| 22:42.05 | goozbach | except I wouldn't do this if bucket was here |
| 22:42.07 | goozbach | ... |
| 22:42.17 | Jayce^ | but harleypig would |
| 22:42.23 | harleypig | repeatedly |
| 22:42.23 | goozbach | Bucket: harleypig silently removes his pants |
| 22:42.32 | harleypig | :D |
| 22:42.49 | Jayce^ | where's that cop from earlier today |
| 22:42.50 | harleypig | It would need to randomize between a couple of other lines |
| 22:42.56 | harleypig | heh |
| 22:43.25 | harleypig | By the time the cops were done with me the original cop was almost literally purple. |
| 22:43.28 | harleypig | I'm so proud of myself. :> |
| 22:43.34 | Jayce^ | we all are |
| 22:43.45 | Jayce^ | we're all counting on you |
| 22:43.58 | sjansen | cop? |
| 22:44.12 | harleypig | I was pulled over on my way back to work from lunch. |
| 22:44.23 | Jayce^ | harleypig decided to play again today |
| 22:44.33 | Jayce^ | since he's here, you know he didnt' try as hard this time |
| 22:45.03 | harleypig | The question "Do you know why I pulled you over?" is responded to with "Why don't you tell me." |
| 22:45.38 | harleypig | The question "Do you mind if I search your car?" is responded to with "Yes, but since I don't really have a choice, go ahead Herr Officer." |
| 22:45.55 | harleypig | "Are you calling me a communist?!" |
| 22:46.12 | fozzmoo | is done editing the Pete Ashdown interview |
| 22:46.19 | harleypig | (with as much "You idiot" in my attitude as I could muster) "No, I'm calling you a fascist." |
| 22:46.38 | harleypig | He called the sniffer dog. :> |
| 22:46.50 | Jayce^ | did it gag? |
| 22:46.58 | harleypig | I helpfully pointed out places I could have hid stuff. |
| 22:47.04 | Jayce^ | I mean, how many kids do you drive around in that suburban? |
| 22:47.14 | harleypig | :> |
| 22:47.44 | harleypig | Oh, I also made him fill out a *detailed* receipt for everything in my pockets that he confiscated^Wtook for his protection. |
| 22:48.04 | Jayce^ | harleypig: next time you need more fun things |
| 22:48.11 | goozbach | harleypig: you don't have to conscent to a search |
| 22:48.13 | Jayce^ | "Why is that bag of candy in here..." :-D |
| 22:48.22 | goozbach | cloraform? |
| 22:48.22 | Jayce^ | goozbach: but he was playing with them |
| 22:48.28 | goozbach | I see |
| 22:48.28 | Jayce^ | and the rope? |
| 22:48.34 | goozbach | duct tape |
| 22:48.48 | harleypig | goozbach: No, I don't. But they'll just do it anyway if they can come up with a reasonable reason. |
| 22:48.55 | goozbach | barney videos and a tv/vcr combo |
| 22:49.14 | harleypig | Need that t-shirt from tshirt hell |
| 22:49.31 | harleypig | duct tape |
| 22:50.15 | harleypig | hmmm ... so a BTC bag (bug the cops) would need: rope, duct tape, plastic bags, handcuffs, candy ... |
| 22:50.18 | harleypig | what else. |
| 22:50.35 | Jayce^ | the barney video |
| 22:50.48 | harleypig | ah, right ... kid videos ... |
| 22:50.49 | Jayce^ | empty plastic baggies |
| 22:50.54 | harleypig | zip ties |
| 22:51.07 | Jayce^ | a bag of sugar or flour.. |
| 22:51.08 | Jayce^ | razor blade? |
| 22:51.24 | harleypig | straight razor ... |
| 22:51.26 | harleypig | no ... |
| 22:51.33 | harleypig | regular razor |
| 22:51.43 | harleypig | Just to make them scratch their heads. |
| 22:51.50 | harleypig | what's with the sugar or flour? |
| 22:51.53 | sjansen | yawns |
| 22:52.02 | Jayce^ | harleypig: to go with the baggies... cutting |
| 22:52.06 | sjansen | Is that it? You gave a cop a hard time for pulling you over? |
| 22:52.14 | harleypig | Ah. |
| 22:52.20 | Jayce^ | lock pick set |
| 22:52.32 | goozbach | *BIG* field glasses |
| 22:52.34 | Heartsbane | LOL |
| 22:52.36 | harleypig | sjansen: yep, in my own annoying way. |
| 22:52.37 | goozbach | hoodie |
| 22:52.44 | Jayce^ | sjansen: and got cuffed/etc |
| 22:52.50 | fozzmoo | harleypig: You got cuffed? |
| 22:52.55 | Heartsbane | black hoodie and ski-mask |
| 22:53.02 | harleypig | oooo ... eye black, cammie paint |
| 22:53.02 | Heartsbane | handcuffs |
| 22:53.04 | Jayce^ | a shovel |
| 22:53.06 | harleypig | fozzmoo: yeah, for their protection |
| 22:53.08 | Heartsbane | and lime |
| 22:53.11 | Heartsbane | and rope |
| 22:53.25 | fozzmoo | harleypig: Did they... ever... cite you for anything? |
| 22:53.29 | harleypig | the handcuffs and rope have already been mentioned, but I like the lime. |
| 22:53.35 | goozbach | lime and a carpet |
| 22:53.38 | harleypig | fozzmoo: yeah, not wearing a seatbelt. |
| 22:53.39 | goozbach | pre-rolled |
| 22:53.46 | Heartsbane | is glad he can help. |
| 22:53.49 | Jayce^ | I'd suggest a bottle of JD, but I know it wouldnt' last in there |
| 22:53.51 | goozbach | around the bags of lime |
| 22:54.01 | fozzmoo | harleypig: OMG!!!! YOU WEREN'T BELTED?! |
| 22:54.24 | Heartsbane | harleypig: I have some empty Maker's bottles in my liquor cabinet, if you need em |
| 22:54.38 | harleypig | Heartsbane: :> |
| 22:55.17 | goozbach | we're forgetting an esential item here |
| 22:55.20 | goozbach | vaseline! |
| 22:55.31 | harleypig | condoms |
| 22:55.45 | Heartsbane | you know what else might work a map of Salt Lake county with random red circles drawn on it, sitting in the passenger seat |
| 22:55.47 | fozzmoo | And Barry White CDs. |
| 22:55.47 | harleypig | ooo ... other toys that we won't name here... |
| 22:56.02 | harleypig | :D |
| 22:56.05 | fozzmoo | Heartsbane: :-D |
| 22:56.22 | goozbach | you need to wire the outside and inside with lipstick cameras so we can see the outcome |
| 22:56.53 | sjansen | Lame. |
| 22:57.08 | Jayce^ | goozbach: speaking of lipstick, another item for the bag :-D |
| 22:57.16 | harleypig | sjansen: Do you have any constructive criticism? |
| 22:57.19 | sjansen | Sexual predators and murderers are not funny. |
| 22:57.22 | harleypig | and lingerie |
| 22:57.28 | Jayce^ | Heartsbane: like the map one |
| 22:57.33 | fozzmoo | harleypig: Several 8x10s of sjansen. |
| 22:57.40 | Heartsbane | thanx |
| 22:57.42 | harleypig | photoshopped |
| 22:57.47 | Jayce^ | add the lipstick to the 8x10 |
| 22:57.58 | Heartsbane | but fozzmoo Sexual predators and murderers are not funny |
| 22:58.35 | harleypig | sjansen: true, they are not. but I am neither. |
| 22:58.38 | sjansen | At least have a plausible alternative explanations to explain all the items. And "I garage sale shopping" doesn't count. |
| 22:58.56 | harleypig | sjansen: what about "I'm trying to provoke you fascists." ? |
| 22:58.58 | fozzmoo | and "I no hablo ingles." |
| 22:59.00 | Jayce^ | tire iron |
| 22:59.14 | goozbach | fingernail polish |
| 22:59.20 | Jayce^ | harleypig: that is more your style, though not that uncensored version |
| 22:59.46 | sjansen | I for one am thankful that a handful of crazies are willing to risk their lives to protect us. As it is, they already get enough crap from jerks. |
| 22:59.56 | harleypig | Jayce^: heh ... I almost included the words I would've said. |
| 23:00.11 | Heartsbane | is turning over this whole IRC log to the police. |
| 23:00.24 | Jayce^ | Heartsbane: already there dont' ya know? |
| 23:00.56 | harleypig | carnivore (or it's current incarnation) is already on it |
| 23:01.07 | harleypig | I'm fairly sure I'm on at least 2 or 3 watchlists |
| 23:01.09 | Jayce^ | just needs the new datacenter :) |
| 23:01.34 | Heartsbane | sjansen: what if you are a crazy sympathesizer? some of my best friends are crazies |
| 23:01.47 | Jayce^ | speaking of which, I was contacted today by KSL.. wanting to know if I knew the "survivalist" that was murdered this last week down in spanish fork |
| 23:01.56 | harleypig | sjansen: Individually, I admire most cops for their dedication. However, the system itself has become corrupted from what it should be and I fight against it in what little ways I can. |
| 23:02.04 | goozbach | sjansen: I agree that they get too much crap, but I also feel that politics/quotas/etc make them overstep their bounds |
| 23:02.06 | Jayce^ | Heartsbane: why thank you for speaking to me as your friend :-D |
| 23:02.23 | harleypig | Jayce^: ? First I've heard of any murder at all in SF ... |
| 23:02.26 | harleypig | googles |
| 23:02.29 | Heartsbane | ya but you aren't applying yourself like you could be |
| 23:02.48 | Jayce^ | harleypig: retired BYU prof, throat was cut during a home breaking |
| 23:02.56 | goozbach | really?! |
| 23:02.59 | goozbach | oh my |
| 23:03.07 | goozbach | link? |
| 23:03.30 | Jayce^ | main things they've reported stolen were firearms... so looks like they are coming at that angle for reporting |
| 23:03.33 | harleypig | Heartsbane: If I didn't have a family to worry about I'd have pushed till I got arrested |
| 23:04.39 | goozbach | harleypig: could they tell you weren't wearing your seatbelt *BEFORE* they pulled you over? |
| 23:04.54 | Heartsbane | harleypig: Oh ya just to point out How absurb it can be, I don't envy their job at all |
| 23:05.31 | fozzmoo | http://www.fox13now.com/news/kstu-suspects-sought-for-murder-home-invasion,0,4843321.story |
| 23:05.36 | fozzmoo | http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=8700727&autostart=y |
| 23:05.37 | brac | [ksl.com - 1 dead in home invasion; deputies looking for armed suspects] |
| 23:05.44 | fozzmoo | http://www.abc4.com/content/news/top%20stories/story/Homeowner-identified-in-Payson-home-invasion-death/r44cygXcQ0O5UGVJXpSzSg.cspx |
| 23:06.03 | harleypig | goozbach: The cop told me he pulled me over because I wasn't wearing a seat belt. I had already decided to take my lawyer to court with me wheen I found out that its a secondary offense. I don't think I'll have to pay anything at all. |
| 23:06.24 | fozzmoo | http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705345524/Neighbor-describes-horrifying-scenario.html |
| 23:06.26 | brac | [Deseret News | Neighbor describes a horrifying scenario in man's slaying in Payson] |
| 23:06.35 | Jayce^ | http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148&sid=8723041 |
| 23:06.35 | brac | [ksl.com - Investigators keeping quiet to protect homicide case] |
| 23:06.37 | sjansen | How did Jayce^ become so notorious that reporters think of him as a survivalist? |
| 23:06.47 | fozzmoo | http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_13819500 |
| 23:06.57 | goozbach | google survivalist utah |
| 23:07.00 | fozzmoo | goozbach: Got it? |
| 23:07.00 | goozbach | or prepper utah |
| 23:07.24 | fozzmoo | goozbach: I got all those by searching "Payson Canyon" on news.google.com |
| 23:07.29 | Heartsbane | goozbach: I did ... it took me to Jayce^ Facebook page |
| 23:07.36 | Jayce^ | hehe |
| 23:07.51 | Jayce^ | oh, and which one of you dorks is responsible for this: http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148&sid=8728905 |
| 23:07.51 | brac | [ksl.com - FAA glitch traced back to Salt Lake City] |
| 23:08.04 | mrpull | i thought cops CAN pull over for seatbelt violations now |
| 23:08.09 | harleypig | He wasn't in SF! His home was SE of Payson |
| 23:08.51 | goozbach | Jayce^: not I |
| 23:08.54 | Jayce^ | harleypig: yeah yeah, was going by memory on the location |
| 23:09.03 | Jayce^ | goozbach: you're the one with the SLC-atlanta connection |
| 23:09.07 | harleypig | mrpull: I'm waiting on a return call from m y lawyer |
| 23:09.28 | fozzmoo | Nice of KSL to show a picture of the building where all air traffic can be disrupted. |
| 23:09.43 | fozzmoo | "Deploy EMP here." |
| 23:10.06 | Heartsbane | fozzmoo: its a trap, it isn't the real building |
| 23:11.19 | Heartsbane | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:11.28 | Heartsbane | later |
| 23:12.14 | harleypig | hey! |
| 23:12.21 | harleypig | They aren't anti-community! |
| 23:12.46 | mrpull | http://publicsafety.utah.gov/highwaysafety/seatbelts.html |
| 23:12.48 | brac | [Utah Department of Public Safety] |
| 23:12.58 | mrpull | The law provides for primary enforcement for individuals up to 19 years of age |
| 23:13.00 | mrpull | interesting |
| 23:13.07 | mrpull | i dont recall the 19 yro part |
| 23:13.24 | harleypig | For a person age 19 or older, enforcement by an officer can be only as a secondary action when the person has been detained for another offense, such as speeding. |
| 23:13.26 | sjansen | SLC & ATL? But how does goozbach stand to gain? |
| 23:13.36 | mrpull | For a person age 19 or older, enforcement by an officer can be only as a secondary action when the person has been detained for another offense, such as speeding. |
| 23:14.09 | mrpull | i break the child seat law too frequently |
| 23:14.20 | sjansen | And what could possible motivate goozbach to be awake at 5am? |
| 23:14.34 | harleypig | So, based on that, I'm pretty sure I can get the ticket dismissed. Especially if I take my lawyer with me. |
| 23:15.07 | harleypig | mrpull: I like this part: the law only applies to seating positions required to be equipped with seat belts; the law does not apply to a passenger if all seating positions are occupied by other passengers. |
| 23:15.50 | mrpull | that is odd... it is ok to fill your car beyond its capacity? |
| 23:15.51 | Jayce^ | harleypig: the truck exclusion |
| 23:15.56 | sjansen | Wait, 5am here is 7am in ATL. I guess I could see goozbach being awake then to disrupt air traffic... |
| 23:16.55 | harleypig | mrpull: I doubt it. It probably is just there to prevent someone from being overloaded with fines. |
| 23:17.09 | mrpull | odd exclusion |
| 23:17.16 | goozbach | sjansen: 7am, seriously |
| 23:17.19 | goozbach | ? |
| 23:17.32 | Jayce^ | goozbach: you are married now... |
| 23:17.32 | goozbach | I've not seen 7am since.... wow I don't recall |
| 23:17.32 | mrpull | if i fill my car up with 25 kids why shouldnt i get 21 tickets? |
| 23:17.57 | goozbach | Jayce^: yeah, but my wife is even less of a morning person than I am |
| 23:18.02 | mrpull | Jayce^: does the truck exclusion mean i can haul people around in the trunk? |
| 23:18.07 | harleypig | mrpull: *shrug* |
| 23:18.20 | mrpull | maybe the actual law is more specific |
| 23:18.50 | Jayce^ | mrpull: at least in WA, if all the seatbelts available were in use, you could have people in the back |
| 23:23.22 | goozbach | check this out, first hit for "survivalist utah": http://www.rickross.com/reference/tlc/tlc2.html |
| 23:23.23 | brac | [It's Judgment Day for Far Right: LDS Church Purges Survivalists] |
| 23:23.35 | goozbach | Jayce^: watch your back! |
| 23:23.37 | goozbach | :) |
| 23:24.55 | Jayce^ | hence the term Prepper :) |
| 23:25.02 | Jayce^ | there's a difference |
| 23:26.24 | goozbach | hmmm I didn't look too close at the source. |
| 23:26.47 | goozbach | "An Internet archive of information about cults, destructive cults, controversial groups and movements." -- from the home page |
| 23:26.56 | Jayce^ | yeah |
| 23:27.22 | Jayce^ | but am familiar with some of the, shall we say 'actions taken' by the groups x'd... |
| 23:27.40 | Jayce^ | those familiar with LDS teachings can see why, pretty obvous, and not because of food storage :) |
| 23:28.51 | goozbach | heh |
| 23:31.03 | fozzmoo | LDS doctrine says you can only have one kind of wheat stored in your basement. Some say the ancient scripture tells of prophets that had anywhere from 2 to 20 different kinds of wheat in their basements at the same time. "Why can't we?!" some cry. |
| 23:31.35 | Jayce^ | I don't see triticale listed in there!!! oh noes! |
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| 23:35.49 | goozbach | qps now: 5084 |
| 23:35.52 | goozbach | mysql go! |
| 23:38.58 | goozbach | anyone know how to make mpage copy the single page into 4up or 8up? |