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| 03:54.23 | sinuhe | Heh. I just found my original subscription email to SLLUG: 21 April 2000. A couple years after getting involved with Linux. It's interesting to see that I was using SuSE at the time. |
| 04:11.12 | bonez2046 | sinuhe: I originally jump in with Calder Open Linux.. which I bought.. the disk.. from some outfit in CA. |
| 04:11.18 | bonez2046 | several years ago.. |
| 04:11.28 | bonez2046 | jump > jumped |
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| 04:53.17 | maquis | ~lart emcnabb |
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| 04:54.06 | Nafai | w00 first plug meeting tomorrow night |
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| 04:55.15 | emcnabb | maquis, hello |
| 04:59.31 | maquis | emcnabb: hi |
| 04:59.55 | maquis | is playing the waiting game these days... |
| 05:03.46 | emcnabb | maquis, cool - how much longer? |
| 05:03.59 | maquis | emcnabb: she's due in 1.5 weeks |
| 05:04.03 | emcnabb | nice |
| 05:04.14 | emcnabb | any time now |
| 05:04.45 | maquis | yeah |
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| 06:14.27 | levi | Nafai: Never been to a PLUG meeting before? I guess I'll see you there. :) |
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| 06:59.58 | Nafai | levi: Yeah, never been |
| 07:10.23 | levi | This android one sounds interesting. |
| 07:11.01 | levi | Hmm, vmware recently released a new version of Player that makes it easy to create new virtual machines. |
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| 16:03.11 | mulicheng | http://golang.org <- google go. Looks cool. |
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| 16:59.20 | tensai | I'm looking for a netbook for my wife. I want one that runs linux, ubuntu preferred. any recommendations? |
| 17:02.38 | bonez2046 | tensai: check out Shawn Powers' review of that hp 2133 |
| 17:02.49 | bonez2046 | that one is on my long Christmas list.. |
| 17:03.03 | bonez2046 | all depends on what your wife wants to do with it. run with it? |
| 17:03.31 | tensai | basically just email, web browsing, hulu |
| 17:04.41 | bonez2046 | well, I bet that netbook would fit the bill |
| 17:05.29 | elg | -lart tensai |
| 17:05.29 | brac | removes debian from tensai's system |
| 17:09.44 | tensai | noooooooo! |
| 17:10.04 | tensai | ubuntu - debian = ? |
| 17:10.58 | elg | kludge |
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| 17:23.08 | jshipley | ubuntu - debian = marketing? |
| 17:23.31 | jshipley | or, marketing with nothing to market? |
| 17:23.45 | JoshH | just a plain brown screen |
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| 17:24.08 | jshipley | ubuntu - debian = brown color scheme? |
| 17:24.43 | jshipley | I'm sure that they could throw something else together if they wanted. |
| 17:25.24 | jshipley | New Ubuntu based on FreeBSD? |
| 17:27.17 | sjansen | Debian - Ubuntu = dying? |
| 17:29.27 | bonez2046 | what's the matter with ubuntu? |
| 17:29.54 | sjansen | jshipley: So would New Ubuntu taste like New Coke or smell like new car? |
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| 17:40.04 | tensai | debian is dead. long live debian! |
| 17:43.05 | Sargun | ? |
| 17:44.53 | levi | So, I was looking at netbooks at Fry's while I was in CA, but I saw that Sony still has a Picturebook-style computer. If I was going to blow a bunch of money on an ultra-small laptop, that'd be the ticket for me. |
| 17:45.39 | sjansen | levi: Looked at Go yet? |
| 17:46.19 | unum | the point of a netbook is that you don't blow a lot of money |
| 17:52.07 | sjansen | That's not the point of some of the newer netbooks. |
| 17:52.10 | levi | sjansen: Briefly. I'm mildly interested, and way more interested than the vim dude's pet language, but it's not really pulling at me. |
| 17:52.41 | levi | Isn't flash kind of slow on netbooks? Especially if you're running Linux? |
| 17:53.12 | sjansen | I'm interested in Go's channels. Wonder if it can be used to build something like Erlang, but without the Prolog-based syntax. |
| 17:53.32 | tensai | levi: I know it's slow on my laptop. real cpu hog. |
| 17:53.32 | levi | Yeah, the channels and goroutines are interesting. |
| 17:54.43 | tensai | yet vlc can play that same video at a fraction of the cpu cycles |
| 17:55.51 | levi | Surely someone here has a netbook running linux? |
| 17:57.09 | levi | Anyway, the latest Sony picturebook has a high-res screen, a faster-than-Atom processor, and the nib mouse/3-buttons that made using my old Picturebook for Linux so nice. |
| 17:57.38 | levi | Now that you can boot stuff from USB, it'll be WAY easier to install Linux, too. |
| 17:57.39 | decriptor | I've had one |
| 17:57.56 | decriptor | one of the HP ones |
| 17:58.25 | levi | Can you watch Hulu videos in Linux? |
| 17:58.37 | decriptor | not sure. I can try |
| 17:59.28 | decriptor | ah, I have to reload it first |
| 17:59.36 | decriptor | installs something on it |
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| 18:08.26 | sinuhe | levi: My wife does on Ubuntu |
| 18:11.51 | tristanbob | levi, I do it on Ubuntu to. |
| 18:13.31 | tensai | the question is whether it works on a netbook |
| 18:13.46 | unum | hulu doesn't run on my droid :( |
| 18:13.49 | unum | youtube does |
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| 18:22.28 | tristanbob | http://openclue.org/ut/ |
| 18:22.40 | tristanbob | I haven't checked that in a while, sad it is down :( |
| 18:23.31 | fozzmoo | tristanbob: planet.utos.org |
| 18:23.38 | fozzmoo | tristanbob: http://planet.utos.org/ |
| 18:23.57 | whiteinge | I've heard good things about Gnash instead of Flash for playing videos on underpowered devices like netbooks. I haven't tried it yet though. |
| 18:24.04 | tristanbob | fozzmoo, thanks - I'll update my bookmarks |
| 18:25.04 | fozzmoo | tristanbob: np |
| 18:26.25 | sinuhe | whiteinge: I use swfdec instead of gnash these days |
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| 18:27.09 | whiteinge | sinuhe: how is it for full-screen video compared to flash? |
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| 18:27.24 | whiteinge | also, isn't swfdec unmaintained? |
| 18:27.33 | sinuhe | whiteinge: I don't know. I've never used Adobe's software. |
| 18:28.51 | sinuhe | whiteinge: It's part of X. I've not heard that it is unmaintained, though it looks like there hasn't been a release in 10 months. |
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| 19:50.12 | fozzmoo | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8352606.stm |
| 19:50.13 | brac | [BBC NEWS | Technology | New PC to encourage older users] |
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| 20:24.26 | sjansen | ~rlart |
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| 20:29.19 | sontek | ~lart Cyberkruz |
| 20:29.19 | ibot | overclocks Cyberkruz until Cyberkruz burns out |
| 20:29.59 | sjansen | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwtB1zkSNTY |
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| 20:50.21 | elg | http://failblog.org/2009/09/18/science-project-fail/ |
| 20:51.10 | fungus | That is nasty and cruel. Someone send that kid to therapy before we get another serial killer. |
| 20:53.22 | sjansen | Dunno, I think the Confederate flag in the corner was a nice touch. Perhaps he'll turn out a skinhead instead of a serial killer. |
| 20:55.56 | elg | all little boys like to do things like blow up worms. If he moves on to rats for his high school science fair I'd begin to be concerned. |
| 20:57.03 | goozbach | sjansen: thanks for the front video |
| 20:57.14 | goozbach | now I'm searching jessee dangerously |
| 20:57.53 | goozbach | good stuff |
| 20:57.56 | goozbach | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uh8zs9YwHtA |
| 20:58.44 | goozbach | and he kinda looks like you to boot! |
| 20:59.12 | goozbach | matter of fact... has anyone seen jessee dangerously and sjansen at the same time?! |
| 21:00.46 | tensai | elg: I distinctly recall pulling the legs off grasshoppers and setting them next to the fire |
| 21:03.50 | tensai | didn't get school credit for it though |
| 21:06.05 | sjansen | Awwww shucks, looks like my cover has been blown, ay. |
| 21:07.54 | mulicheng | "I predict the Fatest worm will blow up the quickest & blow up more guts!!" |
| 21:09.06 | jshipley | I wonder how well he explained why he thought the fatest (sic) worm would blow up quickest? |
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| 21:23.54 | harleypig | "Never trust a gay gypsy with the palm of your hand." |
| 21:24.21 | harleypig | "Never play strip poker in a nursing home." |
| 21:25.34 | harleypig | "If it's an adma's apple its probably a guy!" |
| 21:29.56 | unum | so I'm designing a database where I have inventory coming in and out |
| 21:30.00 | unum | the inventory can come in from a person or organization or go out to a person or organization |
| 21:30.04 | unum | should I create one table that can be either a person or organization |
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| 21:44.09 | Migs | http://www.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnoughNews/idUSTRE5AA4E620091111?feedType=RSS&feedName=oddlyEnoughNews |
| 21:46.07 | tensai | unum: I'm not sure about what's the "best" way, but that would work. an alternative would be to have a linkage such as "recipientid=123, recipienttype=org|person". |
| 21:46.28 | tensai | if you're using postgresql you could use object inheritance |
| 21:46.36 | unum | I've never done that |
| 21:46.47 | unum | that could be useful |
| 21:47.44 | unum | actually I should just send this out to uphpu and udbug and see if I can get someone to help write it :) |
| 21:49.48 | unum | it's for the electroregeneration society |
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| 21:53.39 | mulicheng | Hm, plugged a laptop into my power strip and wammo.. reboot. uptime=6 min |
| 21:56.47 | unum | see your laptop is teaching your desktop bad habbits, that's what you get for bringing one into the house |
| 21:57.12 | mulicheng | at work actually. not even my laptop. |
| 21:57.46 | mulicheng | Wonder why the reboot though, maybe a voltage drop on the power strip right when I plugged in or something I don't know. |
| 22:05.06 | Sargun | Wed Nov 11 14:05:05 PST 2009 |
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| 22:21.46 | Migs | hahaha go to google and type "why won't" and see what pops up |
| 22:28.23 | romanovic | haha |
| 22:28.48 | romanovic | was that on failblog or something? someone brought that up earlier at my work too |
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| 22:33.25 | unum | a lot of people using limewire still.... |
| 22:34.35 | unum | of course when you have the government funded filter and want porn it's still completely effective |
| 22:34.54 | unum | of course you might get jailed for distributing porn on a port other than port 80 |
| 22:38.48 | unum | when it's that weird, I wonder if it's the automatic stuff getting mixed up, or if someone is playing a joke |
| 22:39.49 | tensai | unum: you're talking about the "why won't my parrot.." thing? |
| 22:40.12 | tensai | if you google for it you'll see there's a really popular yahoo answers page with that question |
| 22:40.17 | tensai | that's why it's suggested |
| 22:40.22 | unum | ah |
| 22:40.27 | unum | that makes sense |
| 22:40.31 | tensai | that implies to me that google isn't tweaking those results, but rather is just learning them automatically |
| 22:40.38 | unum | ya |
| 22:40.46 | tensai | which is good, imho |
| 22:40.59 | unum | they are really good at that sort of thing |
| 22:41.06 | tensai | -chat why won't |
| 22:41.06 | brac | why won't it boot up with that and go mobile !!! |
| 22:44.54 | tensai | just like if you type in "where does ba" you'll see "where does babby come from". same deal. |
| 22:45.10 | JoshH | type in "why are white" |
| 22:53.29 | fozzmoo | "Why are mormons" |
| 22:54.03 | fozzmoo | I like the suggestions for "Why are girls" |
| 22:54.14 | fozzmoo | Comes up with "always cold" followed by "so hot" |
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