| 00:00.23 | bonez2046 | RyanE: thanks, that raises yet another question then.. I believe that 3.5.5 is the answer to all my browsing prayers.. let's say it is.. what's the BEST way to purge the other installations, preserving the bookmarks.. from those other profiles of ff? |
| 00:00.36 | RyanE | got me. |
| 00:01.55 | bonez2046 | ok. |
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| 00:03.27 | bonez2046 | RyanE: thanks.. the ln -s works well |
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| 00:35.24 | RyanE | if my Gnome Do is set to trigger on <super>Space, what's the <super> key? |
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| 00:36.02 | Nafai | RyanE: Most likely the Windows key |
| 00:36.58 | RyanE | you're right. It wasn't triggering because I had the properties window up. |
| 00:36.59 | RyanE | thanks. |
| 00:39.03 | Nafai | np |
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| 05:11.11 | levi | Hmm, this laptop has both built-in and discrete video. |
| 05:13.01 | levi | Apparently Linux doesn't deal terribly well with that. |
| 05:36.33 | bonez2047 | how can I discover which mail delivery agent I am running? |
| 05:37.02 | bonez2047 | I know, I should know, but I don't.. am trying to set up Spamassassin.. to free up my time |
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| 17:11.08 | goozbach | rpm -qa | grep ' '? |
| 17:20.50 | Supaplex | shred `which rpm` |
| 17:57.29 | decriptor | if I have to setup an ftp server which one does everyone suggest? |
| 17:59.17 | sinuhe | decriptor: vsftpd is widely acknowledged as the most secure. I have also run proftpd and find it suitable. My current preference is vsftpd. |
| 18:00.09 | sinuhe | decriptor: What platform are we speaking of? |
| 18:00.37 | decriptor | linux |
| 18:01.06 | sinuhe | vsFTPd |
| 18:01.24 | decriptor | that's what I was leaning towards |
| 18:01.33 | decriptor | so, nice to see someone else recommend it |
| 18:09.50 | Zelut | decriptor: my vote is for vsftpd as well. |
| 18:10.21 | decriptor | how dangerous is it to not use ssl? |
| 18:10.32 | decriptor | its been soooo long since I touched ftp |
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| 18:19.06 | Zelut | if you need security use sftp. if the data doesn't need encryption, anonymous ftp is my suggestion. |
| 18:23.55 | decriptor | I need security |
| 18:24.06 | decriptor | no anon access |
| 18:24.11 | decriptor | (already turned that off) |
| 18:25.27 | Zelut | can i ask why ftp and not http? who uses ftp anymore? |
| 18:25.40 | decriptor | dreamweaver |
| 18:25.47 | decriptor | seriously |
| 18:25.59 | Zelut | is speechless |
| 18:26.08 | decriptor | not my choice or my server :( |
| 18:26.13 | decriptor | way lame |
| 18:26.40 | Zelut | not your choice or your server, but somehow your problem? :) |
| 18:26.49 | decriptor | I'm setting it up :( |
| 18:26.55 | decriptor | its a wordpress site |
| 18:27.31 | Zelut | I never bother with the WP ftp stuff. ftp is so fundamentally broken in terms of security that its not worth using. |
| 18:27.46 | decriptor | this is just for updating the theme, not plugins |
| 18:27.54 | decriptor | I enable the ssh stuff for the plugins |
| 18:28.22 | decriptor | basically all the lameness of ftp just so that he can edit his website with dreamweaver |
| 18:28.53 | Zelut | edit it locally, sans ftp and then upload (via ssh) the final? |
| 18:29.13 | decriptor | that would make sense to me |
| 18:29.27 | decriptor | I haven't actually meet this person. Its helping out a friend for a friend |
| 18:29.28 | Zelut | dev vs prod, right? who edits live? |
| 18:30.01 | Zelut | well, in any case, I can't comment regarding ssl for ftp. never bothered because i've ended up using better solutions (ie; ssh) |
| 18:30.30 | decriptor | Zelut: I've refused to use ftp anything on my servers |
| 18:30.44 | decriptor | for anon download I just use http |
| 18:31.01 | decriptor | Zelut: I almost feel dirty setting up ftp |
| 18:31.02 | decriptor | :) |
| 18:36.58 | Zelut | I need to setup a subversion repo today. I'd rather take a nap. |
| 18:37.58 | decriptor | have fun |
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| 18:38.07 | decriptor | I really should finally setup my git repo |
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| 18:44.31 | Zelut | I've been using git personally, but we're starting to use svn more at work so I figured I should centralize. |
| 18:45.02 | Zelut | its one thing to be just OK at two systems, but I'd like to be great at one. |
| 18:51.47 | decriptor | Zelut: sure makes sense. My own world is slowly moving to git |
| 18:52.01 | decriptor | gnome is git. my team uses git. etc |
| 18:56.57 | sinuhe | decriptor: Zelut is right about SSH vs FTP. However, if you have ignorant bosses who want security, but don't want to learn a new tool (I can't imagine another reason), you'll have to jail the user accounts to the FTP web directory, and minimize the user accounts to not have access to other services. This will minimize the security impact to the server, but leaves the web site vulnerable to attact. Make sure you heavily monitor and |
| 18:56.57 | sinuhe | log everything from the FTP server, and note your cynical predictions in your security, so that when your boss asks what happens, you can point the blame back at him. |
| 18:57.17 | sinuhe | s/attact/attack/ |
| 18:57.35 | decriptor | sinuhe: absolutely |
| 18:57.42 | sinuhe | s/your security/your security policy/ |
| 18:57.55 | decriptor | I've got sftp working |
| 18:57.58 | decriptor | pretty easy |
| 18:58.16 | decriptor | and blocked unencrypted |
| 18:58.35 | sinuhe | sftp requires SSH. If you have SSH working, then forget FTP |
| 18:58.41 | decriptor | ftps |
| 18:58.44 | sinuhe | ah |
| 18:58.44 | decriptor | or whatever it is |
| 18:59.01 | decriptor | sinuhe: it all boils down to using dreamweaver |
| 18:59.24 | decriptor | if it wasn't for dreamweaver then there would definitely not have ftp |
| 18:59.51 | sinuhe | repeats Zelut's speachlessness |
| 19:00.04 | decriptor | sinuhe: I did a face palm |
| 19:00.18 | decriptor | but, I'm not paying for the server, its not my web site, etc |
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| 19:04.19 | decriptor | thinks dreamweaver should be shot for suck lameness as not supporting ssh |
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| 22:15.57 | eightyeight | cat /etc/passwd | tee /dev/pts/0 | wc -l |
| 22:16.03 | eightyeight | (viewing and piping the data) |
| 22:16.06 | eightyeight | tee ftw |
| 22:16.37 | Nafai | yes, tee is very useful |
| 22:16.40 | Nafai | I use it all the time |
| 22:17.45 | Nafai | That's a nice trick too, using /dev/pts/0 |
| 22:18.01 | eightyeight | that's what i thought |
| 22:18.09 | eightyeight | didn't think it would work initially |
| 22:37.22 | goozbach | pts/0 isn't as portable as I'd like |
| 22:37.39 | goozbach | I tried wrapping (tty) in an eval but it didn't work |
| 22:38.42 | Nafai | goozbach: how's the byobu stuff coming? |
| 22:40.00 | goozbach | Nafai: just waiting for testing to come back |
| 22:40.06 | goozbach | I've submitted my patch |
| 22:40.10 | Nafai | cool |
| 22:40.29 | goozbach | Nafai: I may want some help making the python script more generalized |
| 22:40.49 | Nafai | sure |
| 22:40.53 | goozbach | there's got to be a way to do the try/catch in an older python way |
| 22:41.06 | goozbach | right now it requires a recent version of python |
| 22:41.13 | goozbach | which isn't avalible on older systems |
| 22:41.18 | Nafai | how old? |
| 22:41.24 | goozbach | (RHEL and CentOS) specificly |
| 22:41.26 | Nafai | (which python version) |
| 22:41.35 | goozbach | don're reall off the top of my head |
| 22:42.11 | goozbach | 2.4 |
| 22:42.34 | Nafai | okay |
| 22:42.56 | Nafai | I can help with that. :) I was coding to 2.4 at Mozy since we were still running etch on most of our servers |
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| 22:45.03 | goozbach | http://gist.github.com/228925 |
| 22:45.14 | goozbach | there's something in the try/catch stuffs |
| 22:45.19 | goozbach | not sure of the lines |
| 22:46.16 | Nafai | looking |
| 22:46.56 | goozbach | hold on, need to provide the config |
| 22:48.03 | Nafai | what are you missing on the try...except stuff? |
| 22:48.26 | Nafai | unless you are talking about the IO stuff, the parts in the except could fail if the open fails |
| 22:49.42 | goozbach | go ahead and re-pull |
| 22:49.48 | goozbach | I just updated to the lastest |
| 22:49.53 | goozbach | and provided a config |
| 22:50.41 | goozbach | I don't recall what broke |
| 22:50.59 | goozbach | maybe you'll have to install my entire package to properly debug |
| 22:50.59 | Nafai | ok |
| 22:51.13 | goozbach | I just knew there was something wrong with it |
| 22:51.20 | Nafai | I can do some changes without running it :) |
| 22:51.57 | goozbach | you can get the entire thing here: https://code.launchpad.net/~derek-friocorte/byobu/portable |
| 22:52.00 | goozbach | it is bzr |
| 22:52.06 | goozbach | (cause of the upstream) |
| 22:52.17 | goozbach | ./configure |
| 22:52.18 | goozbach | make |
| 22:52.23 | goozbach | make install |
| 22:52.27 | goozbach | will configure it for your system |
| 22:52.40 | goozbach | gotta run to costco before it closes |
| 22:54.31 | Nafai | ok |
| 23:14.07 | Nafai | goozbach: this code is messy :) Doesn't follow PEP8, doesn't use os.path.join(), will error out if any of the opens fail, etc |
| 23:15.41 | Nafai | needs a little cleaning up |
| 23:47.20 | fugue88 | Anyone know how I can have CPAN install modules to some location other than /usr? |
| 23:47.44 | fugue88 | Somewhere in ~ would be nice. |
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