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| 01:34.25 | levi | Ahh, school discussion. |
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| 04:11.58 | tensai | is trying to learn virtualbox |
| 04:16.27 | RyanE | freudian application start. |
| 04:16.46 | blueMax | install, reboot, install? |
| 04:16.47 | RyanE | I just read tensai's msg, went to start up MythTV, started VirtualBox instead... :) |
| 04:17.13 | tensai | RyanE: gotcha! |
| 04:17.23 | RyanE | loves the VirtualBox |
| 04:17.45 | tensai | works great. the tricky part is getting networking set up just right. |
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| 06:03.06 | tensai | well holy cow. networking in virtualbox is rather easy. I just assumed it would be hard and then mistakenly read a bunch of web pages that confirmed my incorrect assumption. |
| 06:03.37 | levi | Heh. |
| 06:11.50 | levi | That's what you get for reading web pages! |
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| 06:41.50 | Sargun | uhm |
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| 15:27.57 | sjansen | http://failblog.org/2009/10/14/business-plan-fail/ |
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| 15:57.19 | maquis | mm... failblog... |
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| 15:58.28 | JoshH | that seems more like a win to me |
| 15:59.27 | Zelut | any ideas why virsh console domain doesn't ever give me a console? it shows me the escape character notice, but I get nothing afterwards. |
| 16:35.30 | Jayce^ | jsmith: so, are you going to check irc at all this week? |
| 16:38.43 | goozbach | Jayce^: I'd bet not |
| 16:38.48 | goozbach | hiking and whatnot |
| 16:38.57 | Jayce^ | hiking was last week |
| 16:39.01 | Jayce^ | this week is astricon.. |
| 16:39.05 | goozbach | ahh |
| 16:39.06 | goozbach | nevermind |
| 16:39.11 | goozbach | prob not then |
| 16:39.12 | Jayce^ | just heard that he and ivan were having a conversation :) |
| 16:39.19 | goozbach | what with the astricon and whatnot |
| 16:39.21 | goozbach | :) |
| 16:39.49 | JoshH | silly asterisk people thinking they need a conference |
| 16:40.18 | JoshH | my coworker is there and can see the yardhouse in glendale from his hotel window |
| 16:40.19 | JoshH | so jealous |
| 16:40.28 | goozbach | joshH is just sad his company didn't send him |
| 16:40.39 | JoshH | i go to cooler ones |
| 16:41.23 | JoshH | and i hate phones and voip and anything related |
| 16:42.28 | Jayce^ | yeah, $dayjob woudl have required me to take all PTO to go (even though would be paying my own way), and also had an issue since I just took PTO to do UTOS :( |
| 16:42.55 | JoshH | jebus, that's messed up |
| 16:43.12 | Jayce^ | seriously |
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| 16:46.30 | Supaplex | ~lart the messed up corporate execs |
| 16:46.30 | ibot | squeezes the messed up corporate execs till the messed up corporate execs turns blue like papa smurf |
| 16:46.52 | Jayce^ | mecworks: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jeremyhall/3996631268/in/pool-utosc |
| 16:47.44 | mecworks | Nice |
| 16:48.08 | Jayce^ | you can add yours to the pool, you know... if you want. :-p |
| 16:50.44 | mecworks | yeah, when I've got them done.... |
| 16:50.49 | mecworks | so, in a year or so |
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| 17:05.33 | Jayce^ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Anakonda_verschlingt_Wildschein_Senckenberg.jpg |
| 17:05.46 | Jayce^ | a capivara being eaten by an anaconda... wow |
| 17:06.19 | mulicheng | A well fed snake. |
| 17:06.30 | mulicheng | Seen the picture of the snake/crocodile fight? |
| 17:06.48 | mulicheng | Snake eats crock, crock breaks out of snakes belly. |
| 17:09.00 | mulicheng | http://www.flickr.com/photos/cinta/51159289/ |
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| 17:15.11 | harleypig | http://pictureisunrelated.com/2009/10/13/picking-up-sulus-birthday-gift/ |
| 17:15.15 | harleypig | semi sfw |
| 17:15.27 | goozbach | harleypig: don't lie |
| 17:15.35 | harleypig | I would never. |
| 17:15.47 | harleypig | It's a pic from the original series of star trek. |
| 17:16.53 | Jayce^ | it's the title that makes it |
| 17:16.54 | harleypig | Favorite comment: hahahahah! That dude in marketing who never locks his computer is getting a new desktop image! |
| 17:24.49 | blendmaster1024 | xD |
| 17:25.56 | blendmaster1024 | does anybody know of something that would make awk not buffer? i want to have realtime output, since the input will be coming in at about 1line/minute |
| 17:26.19 | blendmaster1024 | or something that would do the same thing as "awk '{print $1}' " |
| 17:26.43 | tensai | perl -lane '$|=1; print $F[0];' |
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| 17:26.58 | blendmaster1024 | woah |
| 17:27.17 | tensai | you weren't at my perl class I see |
| 17:27.27 | blendmaster1024 | nope |
| 17:27.56 | Jayce^ | serves you right |
| 17:27.58 | blendmaster1024 | i knew perl could aviod buffering, but i didn't know it had such an easy soulution |
| 17:28.08 | blendmaster1024 | Jayce^: shut up :) |
| 17:30.47 | blendmaster1024 | tensai: the $|=1 doesn't seem to have any effect in this situation |
| 17:31.20 | blendmaster1024 | example of a begin block? i've heard the name plenty and descriptions too but never seen one |
| 17:31.26 | blendmaster1024 | so i can't use one |
| 17:33.18 | tensai | perl -lane 'BEGIN {$|=1;} print $F[0];' |
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| 17:34.40 | blendmaster1024 | wtfreak?? that didn't work either |
| 17:35.03 | Jayce^ | then ur doin it rong! |
| 17:35.09 | blendmaster1024 | nope |
| 17:35.25 | levi | Ooh, Hulu Desktop for Linux is out. |
| 17:35.25 | blendmaster1024 | i'm not clueless with perl, i just don't have a LOT of clues ;) |
| 17:35.28 | tensai | are you sure the input isn't buffered? |
| 17:35.36 | tensai | input to awk/perl, that is |
| 17:35.46 | levi | Maybe I'll boot my media center PC to Linux more often now. |
| 17:35.52 | blendmaster1024 | tensai: huh? oh yeah, at the moment it's jsut manual input to nl |
| 17:36.59 | blendmaster1024 | s/jsut/just/ |
| 17:38.06 | tensai | levi: very nice. i'll give it a try. to date I've found p2p more convenient than hulu. |
| 17:38.26 | Jayce^ | tensai: I agree, though my wife is warming up to hulu for a few shows |
| 17:39.05 | levi | Well, I found p2p more convenient until I got a friendly email from Xmission saying that the networks were kindly asking me to knock it off. |
| 17:39.34 | tensai | I did watch all 3 seasons of arrested development on hulu. the buffering was annoying. |
| 17:40.01 | Jayce^ | great show |
| 17:40.15 | tensai | good thing I did too because they pulled season 2 & 3 off |
| 17:40.20 | levi | I don't usually have any buffering issues unless I'm downloading something in the background or having a bad network day. |
| 17:42.08 | tensai | flash video is pretty cpu intensive on linux. the same video played in vlc, et al plays about 20% the cpu usage. |
| 17:42.53 | levi | I was watching stuff in hulu on Linux through the web browser, but it was a serious pain to navigate with the remote control. |
| 17:43.20 | tensai | I haven't tried on my myth box. I knew it would be a pain and drive my wife crazy. |
| 17:43.27 | tensai | but this is worth a shot |
| 17:45.25 | levi | Hulu Desktop works awesome in Windows, but XBMC's mythtv support is not quite up to the real mythtv frontend's interface. |
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| 17:45.55 | levi | Supposedly you can compile the mythtv frontend in Windows now, but I haven't tried. |
| 17:52.13 | tensai | well, hulu desktop on this laptop sucks. the shearing is crazy. |
| 18:02.53 | levi | Fortunately, it's beautiful on my $200 HD Myth frontend. |
| 18:06.29 | eggyknap | synic: ping |
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| 18:45.11 | harleypig | anyone know where I can find that pepsi commercial with the samurai playing soccer? |
| 18:46.18 | harleypig | youtube isn't being helpful |
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| 18:53.16 | blendmaster1024 | hahaha -- who was this? and how the heck is he still this after eating all that?? http://www.flickr.com/photos/43411724@N02/4008753439/in/pool-utosc/ |
| 18:54.54 | Jayce^ | that's Supaplex |
| 18:55.36 | JoshH | ya man, i'm sure he really did eat all of that |
| 18:56.51 | blendmaster1024 | xD |
| 18:57.17 | blendmaster1024 | i wish i had eaten more of it ... a lousy 3 pieces, and he got 30 pizzas |
| 18:57.31 | blendmaster1024 | xD |
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| 19:35.12 | bbeattie | My vlan knowledge appears to have hit a limit. In my home I've got multiple vlans (home|work|testing|automation). I've got a server that I want to exist on two vlans so it can talk to systems on either vlan but it's a no go. The systems apparently can only talk to other systems with the same pvid. Is this normal for a vlan? Is there a way around this? |
| 19:47.26 | tvc123_ | bbeattie: put it on a seperate vlan and assign overlapping permissions or use a router? |
| 19:48.14 | bbeattie | what would overlapping permissions look like/be called? |
| 19:49.01 | sjansen | http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7268 |
| 19:54.00 | unum | what the command you have to run after changing something in postfix |
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| 19:54.39 | fungus | bbeattie: if you set the switch port that goes to the server to a trunk, you can setup a different virtual interface on each vlan on that server. |
| 19:54.53 | fungus | http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-configure-linux-virtual-local-area-network-vlan.html |
| 19:55.23 | fungus | unum: postfix reload |
| 19:55.36 | unum | fungus: I thought there was some sort of update db command |
| 19:55.39 | sjansen | Well how do you like that? RH killed Frysk. |
| 19:55.52 | unum | like newalias but for the other config files |
| 19:55.53 | fungus | unum: for updating the aliases file you run newaliases |
| 19:56.02 | goozbach | unum: if you edit aliases it's newalias |
| 19:56.07 | goozbach | unum: if you edit aliases it's newaliases |
| 19:56.09 | fungus | for updating other map files you run postmap filename |
| 19:56.15 | goozbach | but if you modify another file it's postmap |
| 19:56.18 | unum | that's what I was thinking |
| 19:56.20 | goozbach | yeah what fungus said |
| 20:01.33 | unum | thanks I got it |
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| 20:16.29 | tensai | bbeattie: are you using tagged vlans? I concur with fungus. set the switch port to trunked and then tag your own packets. |
| 20:17.06 | bbeattie | untagged |
| 20:17.23 | bbeattie | everything in my home has a home run to a patch panel then to the switch |
| 20:18.13 | tensai | what kind of switch? |
| 20:18.41 | bbeattie | my ?incorrect? though was that a switch should pass traffic to anything on the same vlan. What I'm seeing is data is only passed to systems on the same pvid, even when a port is configured for multiple vlans). smc switch |
| 20:26.35 | Jayce^ | ~emulate ms bitters |
| 20:26.36 | ibot | The lesson here is that dreams inevitably lead to hideous implosions. |
| 20:33.58 | bbeattie | I have the system talking to two vlans by using vconfig.. I'm still curious if anyone knows why a switch doesn't let a system talk to two different vlans when its port is set as an untagged vlan for both vlans, and why it only talks to the vlan that matches its pvid number. |
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| 20:35.17 | ibot | poors goo gone on goozbach's steak to make it fat free |
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| 20:37.04 | tensai | bbeattie: I can't say I know *everything* about switches, but the way mine work if they're not a trunk port they can only be a member of a single vlan. otherwise the switch doesn't know which vlan to put the traffic onto. |
| 20:37.24 | tensai | if they are a trunk port then the device is responsible for tagging its own packets |
| 20:42.22 | sjansen | ~ipython++ |
| 20:42.46 | sjansen | http://2dboy.com/games.php |
| 20:42.48 | brac | [2D Boy: Games] |
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| 20:54.27 | brac | not through |
| 20:58.32 | Jayce^ | mmm world of goo |
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| 21:06.57 | stderr | speaking of world of goo, netipots rock. |
| 21:09.23 | RyanE | stderr: yeah, for allergy season, irrigation is the way to go. |
| 21:10.29 | stderr | RyanE: I have been amazed and grateful |
| 21:10.44 | stderr | never knew it existed until eco's girlfriend showed it to me one night at a party |
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| 21:11.05 | RyanE | I don't use the actual pot, but same technique. |
| 21:11.35 | Zelut | I have a script that is generating a file via cat << EOF > filename. This statement includes variables which are being expanded by the parent script. How can I make the parent script keep them in place, yet have them be valid in the end result? |
| 21:18.15 | sjansen | Zelut: I don't understand the question. |
| 21:19.11 | Jayce^ | stderr: I agree, friend showed them to me about 2 years go.. |
| 21:19.12 | Jayce^ | ago |
| 21:19.25 | Jayce^ | quite nice for people with bad allergies, colds, etc |
| 21:19.26 | Zelut | sjansen: my kickstart is trying to create a file on the new host. I'm trying to create the file using cat << EOF > /new/filename, followed by the file contents. |
| 21:20.08 | Zelut | sjansen: teh file contents, as enclosed in EOF, include things like $(hostname) and other variables. I don't want these expanded by the kickstart %post, but stay intact on the new host. |
| 21:20.27 | Zelut | sjansen: ie; the /new/filename on the host post-installation should still say $(hostname), etc. |
| 21:22.55 | stderr | Jayce^: yea, it's better than popping benadryl to get to sleep then not being able to run when you wake up in the morning |
| 21:23.20 | Jayce^ | oh yeah, even with it I'm always on the benadryl :/ |
| 21:23.23 | stderr | after benadryl-fueled sleep, I can barely crawl upstairs to get a cup of joe |
| 21:23.27 | Jayce^ | even after the shots |
| 21:23.55 | stderr | dang, that sucks man |
| 21:24.24 | Jayce^ | benadryl sleep always leaves one worse off.. and yet still better than without |
| 21:26.11 | stderr | tis true |
| 21:26.38 | stderr | waking up feeling like you're drowning in your own body fluids is horrible |
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| 21:28.21 | sjansen | $ cat <<'EOF' > /tmp/test.txt |
| 21:28.21 | sjansen | foo $HOME bar |
| 21:28.21 | sjansen | EOF |
| 21:28.26 | Jayce^ | and of course, it always gives out partway through the night, so it all kicks back in :( |
| 21:29.04 | sjansen | Zelut: Is that what you want? |
| 21:30.04 | Zelut | sjansen: that is what I want. thanks. |
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| 21:52.37 | harleypig | The FBI appears to have someone with a sense of humour. I'm sure its temporary: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/08/technology/internet/08phish.html |
| 21:52.40 | brac | [F.B.I. Indicts Dozens in Online Fraud With Link to Egypt - NYTimes.com] |
| 22:05.22 | fungus | ~lart nytimes logon crap |
| 22:05.22 | ibot | burns nytimes logon crap to a crisp with a laser |
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