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| 15:35.47 | unum | so I need to print out alt+i in perl, how would I do that |
| 15:39.17 | goozbach | unum: you know the octal number of that char? |
| 15:39.31 | unum | 27,105 |
| 15:39.38 | unum | does that make it 132? |
| 15:40.10 | unum | ah ha |
| 15:40.13 | unum | that's what it is |
| 15:40.17 | unum | 27,105 |
| 15:40.21 | unum | so \ei |
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| 17:17.35 | sjansen | ~rlart |
| 17:17.36 | ibot | whips out a shotgun, trudges over to herlo, and goes postal |
| 17:17.44 | sjansen | ~botsnack |
| 17:17.44 | ibot | aw, gee, sjansen |
| 17:38.19 | sjansen | pauses to relive the "terrorist fist jab" |
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| 18:04.38 | Sargun_Screen | http://my-symbian.com/other/preview_n900.php |
| 18:04.41 | brac | [Nokia N900 preview - My-Symbian.com] |
| 18:04.46 | elg | -chat |
| 18:04.46 | brac | seems like a laser |
| 18:05.00 | ^Migs^ | OMGLAZERZ! PEW! PEW! PEW! |
| 18:05.00 | elg | more like a phone |
| 18:07.01 | Sargun_Screen | elg: ...it is a pone |
| 18:07.59 | sjansen | That? A phone? Looks a portable death star controller to me. |
| 18:13.05 | elg | Sargun_Screen: you and I can see that. brac needs a little help |
| 18:28.55 | goozbach | http://arch.har-ikkje.net/gfx/curves.jpg |
| 18:29.00 | goozbach | learning curves for editors |
| 18:30.08 | sjansen | http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2009/09/29/your-credit-report-card/ |
| 18:30.48 | sjansen | You know what I hate about all these new Web-based companies? I don't understand how many of them make a profit. It's much harder for me to trust a company if I don't understand their angle. |
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| 18:57.53 | mulicheng | Speaking of phones, my wife smashed her cell phone in the door of our suburban. Still makes and receives calls the the screen is ruined. |
| 18:58.32 | goozbach | mulicheng: which make/model? |
| 18:58.45 | mulicheng | old motorola something or other. |
| 18:58.47 | goozbach | buy a new screen, and put it in yourself |
| 18:59.48 | mulicheng | I haven't had a chance to look it over to see how it comes apart but if I can find a replacement part I'm not above tinkering on it. |
| 19:00.00 | mulicheng | I certainly can't do any worse than have to buy a new phone anyway :) |
| 19:00.15 | goozbach | you'll probabally need torx bits |
| 19:00.56 | mulicheng | I have a set of those. |
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| 20:07.57 | mulicheng | Anyone know of a good software package to generate some custom waveforms and save the results as images. I need to describe a digital transaction. |
| 20:07.57 | mulicheng | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waveform |
| 20:34.29 | tensai | mulicheng: I bet elg would |
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| 21:52.53 | levi | Hmm, $125 to $150 to get my camera repaired. Not terrible, but money I'd prefer to spend elsewhere. Oh well. |
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| 22:19.15 | tensai | elg: mulicheng is looking for "a good software package to generate some custom waveforms and save the results as images". know of anything? |
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| 22:19.40 | elg | what kind of images? |
| 22:19.49 | elg | and what kind of waveforms? |
| 22:20.10 | elg | audacity can generate basic waveforms (sin, square, etc.) and you can take screenshots of it |
| 22:21.03 | elg | if you want something more scientificish, you want some kind of waveform plot with axes etc. and I'd say the first thing that comes to mind is octave |
| 22:21.14 | elg | but there are audio-specific programs that are somewhere in the middle too, like snd |
| 22:21.27 | elg | i can help him narrow it down if we discuss his goals |
| 22:25.31 | mulicheng | I found drawtiming |
| 22:25.38 | mulicheng | It works quite well actually. |
| 22:25.52 | mulicheng | I'm generating timing diagrams for digital logic. |
| 22:27.28 | sjansen | Wow, that's pretty sweet. |
| 22:36.35 | mulicheng | sjansen: were you referring to drawtiming or the digital logic? (or something else?) |
| 22:38.01 | elg | he was referring to brown sugar. |
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| 22:39.08 | sjansen | Actually, I was referring to my awesome personality. But drawtime is nifty too. |
| 22:39.12 | elg | drawtiming looks pretty cool, and sounds well-suited for timing diagrams for digital logic, obviously |
| 22:39.43 | elg | which sounds only barely like waveforms to me, but I'm an audio guy. :) |
| 22:40.22 | elg | i mean, you could use drawtiming to draw a mean square or triangle waveform, but otherwise... |
| 22:42.36 | tensai | uheaa decided to forgive my last student loan. how about that? |
| 22:42.45 | elg | just like that? |
| 22:43.10 | elg | "we think tensai's prett sweet (not to be confused with brown sugar or drawtiming) and so he doesn't have to pay back his loan" |
| 22:43.11 | tensai | yeah. they sent us a nice note in the mail today. |
| 22:43.31 | tensai | pretty much. said since I never missed a payment that they'd just call it even. |
| 22:43.52 | elg | nice. how much did you still owe? |
| 22:43.57 | tensai | $799 |
| 22:44.23 | elg | I sent my loans notice that i'm not in school and i'm ready to start paying back |
| 22:44.47 | elg | one sent a reply "huh? we didn't understand. we did understand the change of address bit but we were too dense to understand the rest" |
| 22:45.16 | elg | the other ignored me until they apparently got notice from school that i wasn't enrolled and then started the grace period |
| 22:45.28 | elg | so i still haven't had the opportunity to make any payments. :-) |
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| 22:54.53 | tensai | looks like the amount they forgave was about what I had payed in interest over the lifetime of the loan |
| 23:03.26 | sjansen | has never had the pleasure of paying a single dime of student loan debt |
| 23:04.16 | blendmaster1024 | yike |
| 23:06.11 | unum | me either |
| 23:06.30 | unum | my parents "loaned" me my tuition money |
| 23:06.34 | unum | until I turned 23 |
| 23:06.46 | unum | well they "loaned" me some |
| 23:06.50 | unum | I'm very lucky that way |
| 23:07.04 | sjansen | worked his way through college |
| 23:07.21 | unum | I'm guessing you didn't go to USU :) |
| 23:07.24 | mulicheng | applied for scholarships a lot. |
| 23:07.39 | sjansen | I may have been on the seven year program, but it was the debt free seven year program. |
| 23:08.00 | unum | I payed my own room and board and some of my tution |
| 23:08.07 | unum | I also took 7 years |
| 23:08.09 | sjansen | blew a full tuition scholarship by spending more time playing with Linux than studying |
| 23:08.39 | blendmaster1024 | i hope i don't |
| 23:08.55 | sjansen | Things turned out all right in the end, I guess, but probably not the brightest thing I ever did. |
| 23:10.06 | unum | academic scholarships are pretty hard to keep |
| 23:10.26 | unum | if you have a full ride its easier because you don't have to work |
| 23:10.55 | blendmaster1024 | academic scholarship? |
| 23:11.10 | blendmaster1024 | please define for this clueless geek |
| 23:11.49 | sjansen | Actually, signing up for a class I'd already taken and then forgetting about it, thereby replacing an honors A with an incomplete was probably the stupidest thing I did in college. |
| 23:12.10 | sjansen | blendmaster1024: Scholarship based on academic performance. |
| 23:12.29 | sjansen | good grades == cash keeps coming |
| 23:12.44 | unum | if you have a high enough index score you can start out with one |
| 23:12.59 | unum | and then you need to keep a high gpa(often a 3.7 or above) |
| 23:13.49 | unum | so a full time schedule(lets take the low end) of 12 credit hours |
| 23:14.00 | unum | figure 3x as many hours for homework |
| 23:14.07 | unum | that give you 48 hours of school time |
| 23:14.15 | unum | plus 20 hours at a part time job |
| 23:14.29 | unum | if you're lucky you get a job as a lab tech so you can do home work while working |
| 23:15.02 | sjansen | Bah, I used to think that. I'm glad I got a real job, even if it hurt me academically. Learned more on the job than in class. |
| 23:15.42 | unum | lab techs learn a lot of it stuff |
| 23:15.51 | unum | if that's the direction you are going its not a bad gig |
| 23:16.02 | unum | but if you are aiming to be programmer, it is less usefull |
| 23:30.05 | levi | I blew a half-tuition scholarship, and then flunked out a few years later due in large part to spending too much time playing with Linux. The playing with Linux thing got me my first real job, but I could easily have learned just as much and still got good grades. |
| 23:30.50 | Tene | http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/2009/09/29/how-races-and-religions-match-in-online-dating/ -- fascinating. |
| 23:30.54 | Tene | I love okc's statistics. |
| 23:31.39 | levi | I later finished my degree, but with my full-time job paying the tuition. :) |
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