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| 04:10.39 | findlay | ~lart Tene |
| 04:10.39 | ibot | installs PocketPC on Tene's PDA |
| 04:10.50 | Tene | findlay: what's up? |
| 04:10.59 | findlay | hm |
| 04:11.03 | findlay | no scrollback |
| 04:11.12 | findlay | just an empty buffer |
| 04:11.42 | findlay | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:13.58 | findlay | Tene: what phores and metaphores characterize the eigenstates of your living space? |
| 04:16.34 | Tene | Lots of family drama. |
| 04:18.50 | Tene | mostly just work, hanging out at home, parrot... |
| 04:19.29 | Tene | I made a graph today. |
| 04:20.07 | findlay | but why are systems of nonlinear partial differential equations so difficult to solve? |
| 04:20.16 | eightyeight | heh |
| 04:20.42 | eightyeight | i've been spending the night proving the existence of first order differential equations |
| 04:21.20 | eightyeight | one more section- differences between linear and nonlinear, and i'm calling it a night |
| 04:21.24 | findlay | a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graph_(mathematics)? |
| 04:22.03 | findlay | eightyeight: I've got PDEs, lots of work |
| 04:22.09 | findlay | I wish I had more time for this class |
| 04:22.36 | eightyeight | i started with the nullspace of linear systems earlier |
| 04:22.54 | eightyeight | that went rather quickly, actually. solving systems for zero is awfully convenient |
| 04:23.33 | Tene | findlay: Yes, one of those! |
| 04:23.43 | findlay | yay, I won |
| 04:23.43 | Tene | I used graphviz to render it. |
| 04:23.53 | findlay | graphviz roxorz |
| 04:24.00 | Tene | srsly |
| 04:26.30 | maquis | wow... |
| 04:26.39 | maquis | just had to do an online chat with customer service for a company |
| 04:27.03 | maquis | i'm not sure if i was talking to a person or a bot |
| 04:27.07 | findlay | -chat maquis |
| 04:27.07 | brac | maquis had pancakes for breakfast tomorrow so it should be forced into a position where they were telling you when you can't escape? |
| 04:27.23 | maquis | i've read the conversation 2-3 times, and still can't figure it out |
| 04:28.02 | Tene | maquis: if they're following a strict script, it doesn't make much difference whether the algorithm is running on silicon or underpaid human. |
| 04:28.08 | maquis | Tene: it's true |
| 04:28.25 | maquis | if they weren't a bot, they definitely had some areas that they copy/pasted |
| 04:28.37 | maquis | i haven't seen anybody who can type that fast with high accuracy |
| 04:28.47 | maquis | not to mention the fact that the responses were grammatically correct |
| 04:28.52 | maquis | which implies not a human |
| 04:29.02 | maquis | anyway, just had to comment on it :) |
| 04:29.06 | maquis | needs sleep badly |
| 04:29.16 | Tene | Hey! You're not a wizard! |
| 04:29.26 | maquis | no, i'm not |
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| 04:29.35 | maquis | but i am in the process of creating lif |
| 04:29.36 | maquis | e |
| 04:29.39 | maquis | which takes a lot of energy |
| 04:29.40 | Tene | heh |
| 04:47.42 | Sargun | haha |
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| 15:07.30 | sjansen | Heh. Microsoft's prototype booklet computer uses Google Maps instead MS's sucky map site. |
| 15:07.36 | sjansen | http://gizmodo.com/5365299/courier-first-details-of-microsofts-secret-tablet |
| 15:10.01 | sjansen | Great design. Too bad it's gonna horribly screwed up by MS as it moves from prototype to shoring a dying empire. |
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| 16:26.09 | maquis | has finally decided to ditch the iphone |
| 16:26.09 | levi | How come? |
| 16:26.10 | maquis | it's really not a high-quality product |
| 16:26.20 | levi | As compared to...? |
| 16:26.32 | maquis | i'm tired of people asking if i got their voicemail, then looking and having 0 missed calls, 0 voicemails according to the phone |
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| 16:27.00 | maquis | but if i call my voicemail # instead of trusting the visual voicemail, there is a voicemail there from that person (and other voicemails that i had no idea had ever called) |
| 16:27.21 | stderr | there's a bug in your current version, obviously. Visual voicemail is supposed to always work. Write a bug report. |
| 16:27.32 | jsmith | "More missed calls in more places than any other carrier..." |
| 16:27.53 | maquis | i've had my mom call, wait for 5 rings and then get redirected to voicemail, then call my husband, and get through to him... she asks why i didn't answer and i say "my phone is sitting about 2 inches from me, is not on silent, and did not ring a single time" |
| 16:27.54 | Jayce^ | maquis: I had the same problem recently with voicemail... wound up being an at&t network issue |
| 16:28.00 | unum | that sounds like aservice issue |
| 16:28.11 | maquis | yeah... that is all an att issue |
| 16:28.16 | Jayce^ | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:28.44 | maquis | but then if i am trying to type in any of the apps, i'm regularly sitting there waiting for it to catch up to my typing |
| 16:29.08 | stderr | which iPhone do you have? |
| 16:29.18 | maquis | and, from what i've heard, most people who've upgraded to the latest OS release have problems with it crashing and rebooting 3-5 times a day (if they don't have the 3GS |
| 16:29.21 | maquis | stderr: 3G |
| 16:29.38 | maquis | i've had a massive increase in slowness since the last OS upgrade |
| 16:29.40 | stderr | man my 3G has been completely fine. |
| 16:29.56 | maquis | i haven't done anything crazy... not messing with networking, not tethering, none of that stuff |
| 16:30.10 | maquis | it's not jailbroken... |
| 16:30.20 | maquis | and i want to be able to receive/send MMS |
| 16:30.25 | goozbach | maquis: I see your problem... |
| 16:30.35 | maquis | goozbach: ? |
| 16:30.37 | goozbach | you bought an iPhone |
| 16:30.38 | Jayce^ | got a 3g and it's good.. |
| 16:30.39 | goozbach | that |
| 16:30.41 | goozbach | 's |
| 16:30.44 | goozbach | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:30.46 | maquis | Jayce^: you have 3.1 on it? |
| 16:30.49 | Jayce^ | yeah |
| 16:31.21 | maquis | i've heard nothing but trouble about 3.1, so i've avoided installing it so far... but they're going to force an upgrade at work if we want to continue to connect in to work email.. |
| 16:31.41 | Jayce^ | it's been just fine for me |
| 16:32.00 | goozbach | in other news, building a custom apt repo for debian is a PITA |
| 16:32.07 | maquis | so, i'm going to a nice non-data phone with a good MMS plan from a carrier who has good (or at least better) service, and is charging us about have the monthly fee |
| 16:32.27 | goozbach | how is apt "easier than that craptastic yum"? |
| 16:32.35 | stderr | 3.1 has improved my battery life considerably. |
| 16:32.43 | goozbach | creating a yum repo: 1) dump rpms in a dir |
| 16:32.50 | goozbach | 2) run createrepo . |
| 16:32.59 | goozbach | 3) make sure it's avaliable via http |
| 16:33.04 | maquis | stderr: really? that's weird because my hubby and lots of other people had it go down, and have had crashing multiple times per day since going to 3.1 |
| 16:33.21 | goozbach | creating an apt repo: 1) dump rpms in a dir |
| 16:33.25 | Jayce^ | I haven't had any of that maquis |
| 16:33.32 | goozbach | 2) make sure you don't have any conflicts |
| 16:33.44 | goozbach | 3) if you have conflicts make an override file |
| 16:33.57 | goozbach | 4) tweak tweak tweak your override file |
| 16:34.05 | goozbach | 5) still broken, tweak some more |
| 16:34.15 | stderr | maquis: we have a guy at work who has had that problem with his 3GS, but most of us have been pretty happy with it. |
| 16:34.22 | goozbach | 6) oh yeah, that override didn't override properly tweak again |
| 16:34.22 | maquis | anyway, i'm sick and tired of issues, and tired of paying tons of money for poor service, so i'm getting out |
| 16:34.35 | maquis | Jayce^ and stderr: glad to hear it's not everyone, at least |
| 16:34.35 | goozbach | 7-ad nausim) repeat |
| 16:35.09 | stderr | yea, I run about 2 hours every morning and listen to music from my iPhone. The last time I charged it was Sunday, and I'm about at 95% battery life still. The 3.1 patch was very noticeable for me. |
| 16:41.06 | fungus | goozbach: I haven't had that much trouble with an APT repository, but my usage of it is super simple so far. |
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| 16:41.17 | fungus | but that createrepo thing for yum sounds cool. |
| 16:41.48 | fungus | I use reprepro for my apt/deb stuff, nowhere near as simple. |
| 16:42.15 | goozbach | fungus: yeah there's no easy "create a repo from this dir" command/tool (that I can find anyway) |
| 16:42.52 | fungus | reprepro isn't too bad, but it requires a bit of setup |
| 16:43.01 | goozbach | yeah... shame really |
| 16:44.29 | fungus | maybe that is why apt is still faster than yum in most cases. :) |
| 16:45.16 | goozbach | faster? |
| 16:45.26 | goozbach | faster???!? |
| 16:45.28 | goozbach | really |
| 16:45.30 | goozbach | ? |
| 16:45.51 | elg | jumps in |
| 16:45.58 | elg | haven't used yum in a long time but man was it slow when I did |
| 16:46.03 | elg | jumps out |
| 16:46.29 | Jayce^ | that's what it's all about |
| 16:49.01 | sjansen | Haven't driven cars in awhile, but man standing in front of them turning the crank sure is a pain. I think I'll stick with my horse. |
| 16:49.40 | fungus | agrees |
| 16:50.12 | fungus | Especially now that I got this new bicycle that doesn't need to eat or shit. |
| 16:51.15 | sjansen | ~language fungus |
| 16:51.16 | ibot | ACTION grabs fungus by the ear and washes fungus's mouth out with soap |
| 16:51.26 | goozbach | ~defend fungus |
| 16:51.27 | ibot | ACTION jumps in front of fungus, taking all insults, violence and anything else negative thrown toward fungus so that fungus may live on in peace and quiet |
| 16:51.42 | goozbach | I thought that was a funny idea |
| 16:52.30 | sjansen | goozbach: Fine, you think it's funny. From now on you can muck out the bicycle stalls. |
| 16:53.54 | goozbach | I'll still laugh at the guy driving the bicicle where he has to build his wheels whenever he wants to go somewhere new |
| 16:54.21 | goozbach | as I drive by in my fancy new pickup truck with 4WD and a lift kit. |
| 16:55.31 | fungus | Yeah, but my bike has disc brakes! I rule. |
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| 17:27.21 | maquis | hopes nobody bids against her in this ebay auction |
| 17:30.48 | fungus | link? |
| 17:30.58 | fungus | grins evilly |
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| 17:47.12 | {-} | help ghost |
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| 18:21.22 | maquis | fungus: i'm not that stupid :P |
| 18:21.41 | JoshH | what are you getting? |
| 18:21.42 | fungus | :) |
| 18:21.51 | maquis | JoshH: some pens |
| 18:22.11 | JoshH | not your standard bic models, i assume? |
| 18:22.45 | fungus | Fisher Space pens? |
| 18:25.10 | maquis | not standard bic |
| 18:25.32 | maquis | likes high-quality pens |
| 18:38.56 | mulicheng | me too |
| 18:39.24 | maquis | :) |
| 18:39.36 | JoshH | maybe you can be friends |
| 18:39.39 | maquis | nothing beats the feel of a nice pen sliding across high-quality paper |
| 18:40.06 | maquis | well... i guess it is slightly better if you can come up with something intelligent to write |
| 18:40.09 | maquis | but still... |
| 18:40.24 | tensai | while that may indeed be nice, I'd say a *lot* of things can beat writing on paper |
| 18:42.07 | JoshH | ya, i can think of some things that feel quite a bit better |
| 18:42.13 | JoshH | but maybe i've just never tried the right pen |
| 18:42.45 | JoshH | i've always wanted to try one of those quill pens that you dip in the ink though |
| 18:42.56 | JoshH | like ben franklin or something |
| 18:43.34 | Jayce^ | awesome: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWNkBD0BIA4 |
| 18:43.38 | Jayce^ | star trek meets mentos |
| 18:47.34 | maquis | JoshH: i've got a murano glass dip pen like that. it's quite nice, but mine has an extra-fine nib, so it's a little bit scratchy |
| 18:55.22 | JoshH | i just learned that there is a type of pen called a murano, that glass pens exist, and that they have a thing called a nib |
| 18:57.16 | maquis | JoshH: not quite... there's a type of glass called murano |
| 18:57.22 | JoshH | ah |
| 18:57.23 | maquis | which is high-quality venetian glass :) |
| 18:57.24 | JoshH | now i feel stupid |
| 18:57.32 | maquis | and there are pens made of it that have nibs :) |
| 18:57.49 | maquis | JoshH: no need to feel stupid |
| 18:58.05 | maquis | i had never heard of murano glass until just about the time i found the pen |
| 18:58.27 | sjansen | Nothing beat the feel of a chisel and a clean granite slab. |
| 18:58.58 | JoshH | the only time i ever write with a pen is when i'm initialing the telecom bills |
| 18:59.17 | JoshH | and signing birthday cards and stuff |
| 18:59.22 | maquis | it's definitely a special-interest thing, but it is a fun hobby |
| 18:59.37 | JoshH | and since i have terrible handwriting, i always write in all capital letters, no cursive |
| 19:00.04 | maquis | can't remember how to write in cursive |
| 19:00.14 | maquis | my handwriting is better with fountain-pens, though |
| 19:06.03 | levi | sjansen: I prefer a stylus on a clay tablet. |
| 19:08.00 | sjansen | levi: Heathen! |
| 19:19.25 | unum | there's 1337 pieces of unread spam in my spam folder |
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| 19:57.37 | TehLaser | Heh. I had to sign something (many somethings, actually) yesterday, and they were picky enough to require my middle initial on everything. |
| 19:57.52 | TehLaser | Unfortunately, I couldn't for the life of me remember how to write it. |
| 19:58.08 | sjansen | http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2009/09/23/calling-lance-davis-give-us-our-domains-back/ |
| 19:58.28 | TehLaser | Strange that they care that there is an initial there, but they don't terriably mind that it looks like '8'. |
| 20:00.54 | elg | what's the point of an initial? if it's that critical why not require the whole middle name? |
| 20:00.56 | elg | seems kind of odd |
| 20:00.58 | goozbach | TehLaser: a signature is a signature |
| 20:01.09 | goozbach | sounds very odd |
| 20:01.23 | goozbach | my signature is only marginally related to my name |
| 20:01.33 | elg | Could you not have just said: My middle initial is right there, can't you see it? |
| 20:01.44 | goozbach | in that it has a distinct D and a distinct C |
| 20:02.01 | goozbach | other than that it changes subtily every time I sign |
| 20:03.01 | TehLaser | elg: It's there because of the other guy with my first/last name and birthdate, but a different middle name, who likes to steal things. |
| 20:03.28 | elg | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:03.43 | TehLaser | And, apparantly, a signature is not a signature unless it at least plausibly matches your name and is in blue ink when signing mortgage papers. |
| 20:04.29 | TehLaser | Oddly, a fax of a blue-ink signature is fine, but an original in black ink is not. What a strange world lawyers live in. |
| 20:04.40 | elg | heh |
| 20:05.33 | TehLaser | Actually, I've had all sorts of trouble with him. The DMV has supsended my license twice because he was convicted for drug offences. |
| 20:05.59 | TehLaser | I've also been denied a rental application in favor of someone unambiguously noncriminal, and been fired. |
| 20:06.03 | goozbach | ooh so sucks to be you |
| 20:06.19 | macnewbold | TehLaser: there is seriously a guy with same first and last name _and_ birthdate as you? that's creepy. |
| 20:06.53 | elg | ever thought of changing your name? or the spelling of it? |
| 20:07.10 | elg | or maybe going by your middle name? (I'd never do that but ...) |
| 20:08.30 | TehLaser | I was eventually able to convince my employer that I was not he and they "unfired" me. |
| 20:08.48 | TehLaser | Unfortunately, their payroll system couldn't handle that, and I never got paid properly again. |
| 20:10.31 | TehLaser | I've thought of it, but somehow I suspect that having an AKA of a felon with my birthday would just look more suspicious. |
| 20:10.56 | elg | hmm, good point |
| 20:11.40 | levi | The mortgage people wanted my middle initial too, even though I'm pretty sure there's not another guy out there with my same name and birthdate. |
| 20:11.43 | elg | i guess you could move to zimbabwe |
| 20:12.20 | goozbach | levi: that's probably due to the credit report request |
| 20:13.35 | maquis | TehLaser: what about people who don't have a middle name? |
| 20:15.30 | levi | I think it's just because they want your full name on it, including the middle initial, and your signature has to match the printed name. |
| 20:15.31 | TehLaser | The middle initial is only required in my signature because it is present in my printed name. And it's present there at least in part because I asked for it to be so that I'm not that other guy. |
| 20:15.51 | maquis | TehLaser: ah... that makes sense |
| 20:15.58 | TehLaser | "full name with initial" is another lawyerland insanity. |
| 20:16.10 | TehLaser | My full name is three names, no initials in sight. |
| 20:16.29 | maquis | btw, in case any of you guys are curious, trying to sign mortgage papers for yourself and someone else for whom you have power of attorney is a *massive* pain |
| 20:16.51 | mulicheng | I have an old roomate who's first name was the letter R. |
| 20:17.15 | levi | I had a mission companion whose first name was the letter J, which at least *sounds* like a name when you say it. |
| 20:17.19 | goozbach | R lee ermy? |
| 20:17.25 | mulicheng | Nope. |
| 20:17.32 | goozbach | he was your room-mate? |
| 20:17.37 | goozbach | drop and give me 100! |
| 20:17.49 | levi | He was 2nd or 3rd generation with the same first name, too. |
| 20:18.24 | goozbach | levi: reprepro is mildly easier to use than dpkg-scanpackages |
| 20:18.30 | maquis | knows John Quincy Adams IV and John Quincy Adams V |
| 20:18.33 | maquis | they're in my ward |
| 20:18.39 | goozbach | but I still have to tell it to add each file |
| 20:18.45 | mulicheng | He had issues signing things now and then. |
| 20:18.59 | mulicheng | people always asked him to spell out his first name and he had to explain that he did. |
| 20:19.17 | levi | maquis: Heh. Are they into politics? |
| 20:19.37 | maquis | levi: actually, the dad is pretty interested in history... |
| 20:19.54 | maquis | and knows quite a bit about certain presidents of the US :) |
| 20:20.55 | maquis | it's a pretty fun family, though |
| 20:22.00 | maquis | i can just imagine it'd be hard if the oldest child in a family like that had all girls at some point, though... i mean... think of the pressure to have a son... |
| 20:23.59 | mulicheng | Any relation to original JQA? |
| 20:24.12 | mulicheng | s/to /to the / |
| 20:24.35 | TehLaser | maquis: heh. My sister, my mother, and her mother, back 8 generations, all have the same first name. |
| 20:25.01 | TehLaser | They're all the *youngest* girl in their families. |
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| 20:28.47 | mulicheng | Anybody know of a good stats program? Not for doing statistics, but for tracking activities. Like, a few times a week I do some routine for example, and I want to record a few items about how it went. A few months down the road, I could look and see: item A happened x times, item B y times etc. |
| 20:29.35 | mulicheng | I thought of going to the trouble to define a little database with openoffice, then create a form or something to input stuff, but that seems like a lot of extra work. |
| 20:33.24 | Migs | sounds like a spreadsheet would do the trick |
| 20:33.58 | mulicheng | I could just create a number of columns and put a check or number or something for each row when I do something I guess. |
| 20:40.56 | mulicheng | I keep thinking there might be something out there where I didn't have to make charts/formulas myself though. |
| 20:41.22 | maquis | mulicheng: yeah, they are related to the original JQA |
| 20:42.13 | maquis | not direct... |
| 20:42.52 | maquis | i think the first one in their line is a nephew of the original JQA or something |
| 20:43.21 | mulicheng | Kinda cool. We're all related back enough generations :) |
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| 20:57.45 | Migs | and some of us are from different evolutionary lines entirely |
| 21:04.32 | TehLaser | mulicheng: is joesgoals.com what you're looking for? |
| 21:04.53 | mulicheng | going to look and see. |
| 21:07.17 | mulicheng | It's pretty close actually. |
| 21:08.28 | Migs | joesgoals is more or less a time tracker |
| 21:08.40 | mulicheng | See with a spreadsheet, I'd either have to have growing columns for a long long time or growing rows... each time I add a record. |
| 21:09.04 | Migs | yes, normally spreadsheets have growing records |
| 21:09.12 | mulicheng | After 5 years of adding data, the spreadsheet is going to be rather annoying. |
| 21:11.09 | eightyeight | mulicheng: http://introplay.com |
| 21:13.55 | mulicheng | eightyeight: That's getting closer. I'm looking more for an OS desktop application though. Something I can put customized types of activities in. i.e.,, Track whatever I want. |
| 21:21.56 | mulicheng | loves git rebase -i |
| 21:24.57 | Migs | in all the time you've been asking about this, you could've been halfway done building it in OOo Base |
| 21:25.24 | mulicheng | :) I'm at work. |
| 21:29.59 | Sargun | You're writing a genealogy system? |
| 21:34.40 | Migs | is there a good FOSS web-based resource-sharing script? Like something where users could log in and just upload files and share them with each other? |
| 21:35.25 | JoshH | i can think of plenty of things like that, but most depend on users not being completely computer illiterate |
| 21:35.36 | unum | wordpress!!!! |
| 21:35.38 | unum | :) |
| 21:37.10 | Migs | that's fine...what's one, JoshH? |
| 21:37.25 | Migs | thing is, I need to be able to install it myself |
| 21:37.27 | Migs | or several, rather |
| 21:37.42 | Migs | we have teams of trainers on hand |
| 21:38.10 | sjansen | WinSCP |
| 21:38.33 | Migs | no, web-based |
| 21:38.48 | JoshH | teams of trainers? sounds scary |
| 21:39.03 | Migs | ELITE squads of trainers, in fact |
| 21:39.04 | JoshH | oh, you mean to train the stupid users |
| 21:39.05 | JoshH | that won't work |
| 21:39.18 | JoshH | no amount of trainign can teach an idiot how to click something on their screen |
| 21:39.19 | maquis | Migs: there's a website like OpenCMS or something... |
| 21:39.20 | JoshH | i've seen it attempted |
| 21:39.24 | Migs | ready to lay the smackdown on id10t errors |
| 21:39.39 | maquis | it's got a bunch of systems all set up with test passwords and stuff so you can try it out |
| 21:39.42 | Migs | You underestimate the skill of our crack team |
| 21:39.45 | JoshH | the id10t's have to be replaced by young web savvy kids |
| 21:40.11 | maquis | http://www.opensourcecms.com/ |
| 21:40.11 | brac | [OpenSourceCMS - Try Open Source Demos] |
| 21:40.24 | maquis | i think that's the same site i've seen before |
| 21:40.29 | maquis | but if so, it's changed a *ton* |
| 21:41.04 | Migs | ok |
| 21:41.18 | Migs | it's a CMS, though |
| 21:41.26 | Migs | I was thinking something more like drop.io |
| 21:41.47 | Migs | only I could install it myself |
| 21:43.28 | maquis | Migs: yeah... these might be more complicated than what you want, but they do allow you to share files among users, i think most have some amount of versioning, and they have a few other random things as well |
| 21:44.27 | Migs | ok |
| 21:44.42 | Migs | cool, thanks |
| 21:45.09 | maquis | dunno if that's anything you're looking for, but it might help... :P |
| 21:45.15 | Migs | specifically, I need something I can integrate with Moodle, but I'm not above creating my own module or integration with some existing script |
| 21:45.38 | Migs | I wonder if Mahara has resource sharing |
| 21:46.00 | JoshH | holy sweet mother of god |
| 21:46.03 | JoshH | http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=8024905 |
| 21:46.03 | brac | [ksl.com - Toddler burns feet in fire; children put in state custody] |
| 21:46.04 | Migs | why didn't I think of that? |
| 21:46.06 | JoshH | look at that woman's mugshot |
| 21:46.08 | Migs | holy... |
| 21:46.11 | JoshH | how could you smile in that situation |
| 21:46.14 | Migs | omfg |
| 21:46.21 | JoshH | well i guess it's not a smile really |
| 21:46.22 | JoshH | but still |
| 21:46.53 | Migs | she's doped up |
| 21:47.54 | Migs | why do these colossal losers have kids? |
| 21:48.13 | mulicheng | "The priority is to keep the child safe. Our preference is to keep the child in the home and with their family whenever possible. However, unfortunately there are times when that can't happen," said Sollis. |
| 21:48.14 | Migs | reminds me of this web site: http://whythefuckdoyouhaveakid.com/ (SFW) |
| 21:48.33 | mulicheng | Poor kid. |
| 21:52.25 | Jayce^ | http://om.ly/IvgE hehe, check out the "Ethernet Ring" |
| 21:52.30 | Jayce^ | though token would be better :) |
| 21:56.21 | TehLaser | That had better be a loopback plug. :) |
| 21:58.38 | JoshH | migs, that site is fantastic |
| 22:02.07 | Migs | what site? |
| 22:02.11 | Migs | oh that site |
| 22:02.12 | Migs | haha, yeah |
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| 22:15.32 | hagna | what do you linux guys use for plotting functions besides R |
| 22:16.15 | hagna | I'm tired of R |
| 22:16.36 | mulicheng | gnuplot? |
| 22:17.43 | hagna | I like R more suddenly |
| 22:18.06 | Migs | who says we're Linux guys? |
| 22:18.19 | hagna | Migs: who says you are guys? |
| 22:18.20 | mulicheng | I'm trying to recall the name of a program similar to gnuplot, but a little better interface. ... |
| 22:18.28 | Migs | who says we are? |
| 22:18.39 | hagna | you presupposed it I think |
| 22:18.39 | sjansen | denies the existence of Migs |
| 22:18.48 | maquis | hagna: there's another one... i can't think of it, though... |
| 22:18.57 | mulicheng | http://plasma-gate.weizmann.ac.il/Grace/ |
| 22:19.00 | Migs | I fail to see any evidence that any of you guys exist |
| 22:19.47 | mulicheng | Not sure grace is much better actually, but I had luck with both gnuplot and grace for generating plots/graphs. |
| 22:20.30 | hagna | mulicheng: yeah ok I forgot about gnuplot anyway |
| 22:20.57 | mulicheng | if you like python, there is matplotlib |
| 22:21.24 | hagna | oh yeah |
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| 22:22.25 | hagna | ibot: are they linux guys or windows girls? |
| 22:22.27 | fozzmoo | Heartsbane: ping |
| 22:22.38 | maquis | hagna: whatcha tryin' to say about guys vs girls? |
| 22:22.52 | hagna | maquis: nothing just picking the opposite |
| 22:22.58 | maquis | ~gender hagna |
| 22:22.59 | ibot | I heard hagna is hermaphroditic. |
| 22:23.06 | hagna | ibot: curse you ibot |
| 22:23.07 | ibot | May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, you ibot ! |
| 22:24.06 | mulicheng | ~language ibot |
| 22:24.07 | ibot | ACTION grabs ibot by the ear and washes ibot's mouth out with soap |
| 22:26.26 | maquis | -chat mulicheng is |
| 22:26.26 | brac | mulicheng is |
| 22:26.30 | maquis | -chat hagna is |
| 22:26.30 | brac | hagna is hermaphroditic. |
| 22:26.47 | maquis | heh... brac learned something today |
| 22:26.59 | hagna | maquis: I prefer unix |
| 22:27.15 | hagna | to hermaphroditic |
| 22:27.31 | maquis | you prefer unix to hermaphrodites? |
| 22:27.36 | maquis | chuckles |
| 23:37.08 | sjansen | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/6222938/Artificially-Intelligent-CCTV-could-prevent-crimes-before-they-happen.html |
| 23:38.24 | sjansen | I'm jealous. Why are the British the only ones who get computer triggered visit from the police for wearing a hoodie and switching seats to get away from some smelly guy on the bus? |
| 23:44.12 | maquis | heh |
| 23:44.35 | maquis | has had some very disturbing experiences on busses |
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