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| 14:52.32 | tensai | ~rlart |
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| 15:19.41 | sjansen | http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200910/media |
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| 15:36.50 | maquis | ~lart elg |
| 15:36.50 | ibot | holds elg to the floor and spanks him with a cat-o-nine-tails |
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| 15:45.59 | maquis | elg: what'd you break? |
| 15:48.04 | levi | sjansen: I like the term 'hit-jobbery' |
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| 15:55.13 | sjansen | ~congratulate elg |
| 15:55.14 | ibot | ACTION congratulates elg on being a new owner of a $500 brick. |
| 15:55.31 | elg | more than that ibot |
| 15:57.39 | sjansen | Wow, looks like keeping Google's name in the Google logo isn't as important as it used to be. |
| 15:58.02 | elg | it's still there |
| 15:58.51 | goozbach | sjansen: it's still there |
| 15:58.51 | sjansen | All I can be certain of is the e. |
| 16:00.54 | maquis | hmm... |
| 16:01.07 | maquis | i think i might see the G... and maybe the g as well... and then there's the e |
| 16:01.14 | maquis | but i seem to have lost the l and the oo |
| 16:01.46 | levi | I wonder why they picked War of the Worlds as the illustration for HG Wells' birthday? |
| 16:01.47 | elg | you probably had a hard time with those stereograms too |
| 16:01.56 | elg | because it was the most famous of his works? |
| 16:02.07 | elg | and it has aliens |
| 16:02.09 | maquis | levi: because it was used for a movie recently, iirc... |
| 16:02.28 | levi | Not as recently as some of his other works. |
| 16:02.30 | maquis | so, it's more recognizable than things that haven't been made into movies recently |
| 16:03.08 | maquis | levi: what was his most recent one to become a movie? |
| 16:03.27 | elg | the only letter I can't see is the first o |
| 16:03.29 | levi | Actually, maybe that was the most recent. |
| 16:03.53 | levi | I can't remember the order of War of the Worlds and The Time Machine. |
| 16:04.06 | maquis | elg: is that what the silver saucer is? i thought that was the g because of the shadow down and to the right |
| 16:04.06 | elg | war last |
| 16:04.14 | levi | But there was also The Invisible Man and The Island of Dr. Moreau that were pretty popular. |
| 16:04.21 | elg | g is part house part field |
| 16:04.33 | maquis | elg: oh.. |
| 16:05.04 | elg | i suppose the first o must be the house on the left, but it's more heart shaped than o shaped |
| 16:05.15 | maquis | elg: yeah... i was thinking that too |
| 16:06.42 | maquis | elg: you gonna get everything up and running again? |
| 16:07.04 | elg | i prefer to bike |
| 16:07.09 | elg | or swim |
| 16:07.12 | sjansen | I'm pretty sure that stereograms were a lie, like the emperor's new clothes. |
| 16:07.26 | goozbach | sjansen: I concur |
| 16:07.27 | elg | haha |
| 16:07.42 | elg | i found stereograms were much easier once I removed my spectacles |
| 16:08.45 | levi | My vision was so horribly assymmetrical that I had a terrible time with them. I was eventually able to see a few of them, but it was never easy. |
| 16:08.56 | goozbach | I've *NEVER* seen one |
| 16:10.21 | elg | it's pretty easy for me now. the trick is (a) getting the image the right distance from your face (varies by person) and (b) staring off into the distance (unfocus) and being able to fine tune the focus without focusing on a specific something until you snap it into focus |
| 16:10.36 | jsmith | likes them too... until they give him a headache |
| 16:10.37 | elg | try being nearsighted without glasses for awhile and trying to "focus" on things far away |
| 16:10.46 | elg | that gives you the general feeling. ): |
| 16:10.48 | elg | :) even |
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| 16:11.20 | goozbach | my problem is I'm UBER nearsighted |
| 16:11.34 | goozbach | and I do 90+% of my seeing with my right eye |
| 16:11.51 | levi | sjansen: I liked that article. I like a lot of what I've read at The Atlantic. |
| 16:33.33 | Sargun | goozbach, :-( |
| 16:46.24 | goozbach | for your listening pleasure |
| 16:46.26 | goozbach | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7C5Rnb7J3sU&feature=player_embedded#t=78 |
| 16:53.52 | sjansen | goozbach: awesome :-) |
| 17:01.17 | maquis | is exhausted |
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| 17:20.39 | sjansen | ~sleep maquis |
| 17:20.40 | ibot | ACTION sends maquis to bed without supper |
| 17:33.10 | maquis | sjansen: i wish that would help |
| 17:33.25 | maquis | wonders if anyone here has a mytouch... |
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| 17:57.48 | levi | Onion headline: US Condemned for Pre-Emptive use of Hillary Clinton against Pakistan |
| 17:59.02 | tensai | got to agree on that one. using her on bill clinton, well you can argue that he deserves it. |
| 18:02.44 | Sargun | lol |
| 18:03.21 | levi | Irving Kristol died over the weekend. |
| 18:07.31 | levi | He was a central figure in the rise of neoconservatism. |
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| 18:12.55 | elg | his death is probably due to a conspiracy |
| 18:13.10 | levi | Heh. I think he was just really old. |
| 18:13.28 | tensai | very convenient excuse, don't you think? |
| 18:15.52 | sjansen | Very sneaky of the Democrats to wait so long. |
| 18:16.55 | sjansen | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2009/09/21/funny-pictures-tactical-nuclear-weapons/ |
| 18:20.00 | Sargun | sjansen, haha |
| 18:25.39 | elg | google typeahead for "why is" |
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| 18:33.09 | tensai | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8267366.stm |
| 18:33.11 | brac | [BBC NEWS | Technology | US proposes net neutrality rules] |
| 18:48.43 | tristanbob | sjansen, most... nuclear... lolcat... evar |
| 18:59.19 | sjansen | Grrr. Lenovo disabled virtualization while they were working on my laptop. |
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| 19:40.10 | goozbach | just discovered what I thought where identical spec'ed machines arent |
| 19:40.38 | goozbach | first batch has quad-core CPUs running at 2.5ghtz |
| 19:40.53 | goozbach | second batch has dual-core CPUs running at 1.8Ghtz |
| 19:41.19 | Sargun | Anyone here watched wicked? |
| 19:44.41 | unum | anyone here ever deal with thermal printers? |
| 19:45.31 | unum | I'd like to watch wicked |
| 19:45.35 | unum | but haven't done so yet |
| 19:45.41 | fungus | no, but I want to. and no, and I don't want to |
| 19:47.56 | Jayce^ | Going in November finally |
| 19:48.10 | Jayce^ | had to get tickets in denver, since they sell out so fast around here |
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| 20:22.45 | JoshH | why is it so popular here? |
| 20:26.29 | Jayce^ | higher percentage of theatrically interested people |
| 20:26.46 | Jayce^ | most broadway plays sell out faster in SLC than in other areas |
| 20:29.05 | stderr | meanwhile the television stations here only show the bare minimum of NFL football games :\ |
| 20:32.37 | maquis | Sargun: is wicked headed down your direction in the next few weeks? |
| 20:32.46 | maquis | it's here in seattle right now, i believe (or maybe just left). |
| 20:32.57 | maquis | i've heard that the musical is really good and that the book isn't very good... |
| 20:33.14 | Sargun | maquis, it's here too. |
| 20:33.24 | Sargun | I watched it yesterday. |
| 20:33.28 | maquis | Sargun: ah... might'e just left here, then |
| 20:33.37 | Sargun | So, I was curious as to why everyone in emerald city wears sunglasses. |
| 20:34.17 | maquis | i know it was here early last week, but i'm not sure when it left... seems like california tends to get musicals either right before or right after us, so i'm guessing they probably just travelled down there |
| 20:34.30 | JoshH | Jayce^: do they sell out here because of limited space, or because of more interest though? |
| 20:34.40 | JoshH | capitol is a smallish theater iirc |
| 20:34.49 | goozbach | JoshH: I'd say it's a bit of both |
| 20:35.05 | maquis | what are prices like for musicals in SLC? |
| 20:35.13 | Jayce^ | they do have less nights often (they judge it by overall city size).. but compared to other cities that are similar in size, and theater size, you'll sellout at a higher rate here |
| 20:35.22 | JoshH | the last play i went to was a few years ago, can't remember the name though |
| 20:35.24 | JoshH | maybe rent or something |
| 20:35.27 | JoshH | it was a date that i didn't plan |
| 20:35.32 | maquis | i know that for concerts like Il Divo, the prices in SLC were way lower than up here |
| 20:35.33 | JoshH | but iirc it was around 20 each |
| 20:35.43 | maquis | 20 each? |
| 20:35.44 | levi | maquis: Not bad if you have friends who get group rates. ;) |
| 20:35.44 | maquis | really? |
| 20:35.48 | JoshH | i think |
| 20:35.50 | maquis | wow! |
| 20:35.54 | JoshH | but that was like 6 years ago too |
| 20:35.54 | Jayce^ | Sargun: as for sunglasses, you haven't spent a long time in overcast skies have you.. |
| 20:35.57 | maquis | considers moving back to SLC |
| 20:36.10 | Sargun | Jayce^, are the skies in emerald city overcast? |
| 20:36.16 | levi | Maybe you can get tickets for $20 if you sit in the back. |
| 20:36.23 | Sargun | Jayce^, I mean, in the musical btw |
| 20:36.31 | Jayce^ | they are in Seattle :) (it's seattle's nickname) |
| 20:36.31 | maquis | here, it's like 60-ish for mediocre seats... |
| 20:36.47 | Sargun | Jayce^, yeah..wrong city. |
| 20:36.48 | maquis | if you want the good seats, it's usually 120-ish per person |
| 20:37.08 | levi | maquis: That sounds more along the lines of what I was paying for with the discount and good seats, but it's been quite a while so I don't remember all that well. |
| 20:37.19 | levi | That was before kids, so I actually had money. ;) |
| 20:37.24 | JoshH | just checked prices for macbeth at capitol theater, and the tickets range from 15 to 72 |
| 20:37.34 | maquis | went to phantom and lion king recently, and refused to pay for the nice seats |
| 20:38.00 | levi | I had front-row seats for a few musicals. That was pretty cool. |
| 20:38.12 | Jayce^ | we got a little better price going to denver, of course, the tickets were actually available too.. |
| 20:38.16 | Sargun | We paid a little more than $100 for crappy ticket (mezz) |
| 20:38.23 | maquis | wanted to go to the il divo concert, but didn't want to pay 250 for a seat... my mom went, though, and called me from the concert... |
| 20:38.30 | Sargun | maquis, heh |
| 20:38.43 | JoshH | concerts have become much more expensive over the last decade |
| 20:39.03 | maquis | my mom wanted to go in canada too, since she was there while they were performing across the street from her hotel (and staying at the same hotel as her), but it was 450/seat there (and that was with a discount) |
| 20:39.11 | Sargun | JoshH, I wouldn't know. |
| 20:39.11 | levi | Is anyone here going to TMBG in November? |
| 20:39.25 | Sargun | levi, they're touring? Link. |
| 20:39.34 | levi | Sargun: See tmbg.com |
| 20:39.47 | maquis | levi: only time i've been at the front in a musical was when i was in high school and my parents were paying... we were 3rd row for phantom |
| 20:40.19 | maquis | oh... and one time that they did a special daytime showing of brigadoon just for students, and my school had the first 2 rows... but that wasn't a major theater... |
| 20:40.22 | Sargun | # Nov 13: San Francisco CA - Fillmore |
| 20:40.53 | maquis | can't plan on anything for november :( |
| 20:40.57 | Sargun | Hm, am I busy on nov 13. YES, Yes I am! |
| 20:41.00 | Sargun | :-( |
| 20:41.06 | Sargun | I have calculus and history |
| 20:41.18 | maquis | hasn't even pre-purchased New Moon tickets... |
| 20:41.26 | Sargun | New Moon? |
| 20:41.36 | maquis | twilight #2 |
| 20:41.48 | Jayce^ | maquis: we used to always get tickets to the seattle opera house for dress rehersal nights.. |
| 20:41.54 | maquis | Jayce^: nice |
| 20:41.55 | Jayce^ | free for the AP classes |
| 20:42.25 | maquis | Jayce^: we've been seeing musicals at paramount theater |
| 20:43.20 | maquis | i prefer 5th ave, but it's way too small for the big musicals... just the most beautiful theater in this area... |
| 20:43.58 | maquis | Sargun: i want to go to new moon on opening day with a bunch of friends... but... my baby's due the next day... |
| 20:45.49 | maquis | my mom already told me i'm not allowed to have the baby that night because she's planning on going to the movie... |
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| 20:47.45 | goozbach | maquis: I'd have it that day just to spite her :) |
| 20:48.03 | maquis | goozbach: but i want to go to the movie too |
| 20:48.19 | goozbach | let her know *YOU* are more important than some impotent emo "vampire" movie :) |
| 20:48.29 | maquis | i'd rather have it before, and then find some way to convince her to trade her ticket for time with the baby... |
| 20:49.30 | JoshH | true blood > twilight |
| 20:49.49 | stderr | heh |
| 20:50.16 | JoshH | i've never been into vampire stuff at all but i really like true blood |
| 20:51.28 | stderr | I read the Twilight novels at the bequest of a friend. Terribly written. The True Blood novels are pretty bad, too, but at least they were translated well to the screen by Alan Ball. |
| 20:51.38 | JoshH | ya i wouldn't want to read the books |
| 20:52.00 | JoshH | from what i've heard the show is completely different anyway |
| 20:52.10 | maquis | stderr: somehow i don't think you're the target audience for the twilight books :P |
| 20:53.07 | JoshH | my stepsister and stepmom tried to get my wife into twilight, but she couldn't make it more than 15 pages in |
| 20:53.15 | maquis | hmmm |
| 20:53.16 | stderr | well, I have a reading comprehension level above 9th grade so I can only assume not. |
| 20:53.18 | JoshH | she's not really a reader though |
| 20:53.35 | maquis | stderr: i have a reading comprehension level above that too... i still enjoy them :P |
| 20:53.49 | JoshH | i just find the idea of a vampire who is saving himself for marriage to be quite absurd |
| 20:53.49 | maquis | i never would claim they're perfectly written, but for certain demographics, they're quite enjoyable |
| 20:53.58 | stderr | I'm sure you do, I wasn't saying anything about the entertainment value. They're just poorly written. |
| 20:54.04 | JoshH | like vampires go to heaven for not sinning anyway |
| 21:00.32 | Sargun | maquis, that might be bad. |
| 21:01.27 | maquis | JoshH: it's an interesting idea... :P |
| 21:05.41 | Sargun | JoshH, couldn't he just lie? |
| 21:06.18 | Sargun | I mean, you could be diddling a chick half way across the world, and nobody would know... |
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| 21:37.48 | eightyeight | is windows smart enough to know that if i am connected via both wifi and 10/100/100, to use the 10/100/1000? or do i have to disconnect from the wifi first? or does it even bother keeping both connections? |
| 21:38.30 | eightyeight | s/100,/1000,/ |
| 21:39.23 | maquis | eightyeight: i don't think it's smart enough for that |
| 21:40.04 | maquis | i believe it uses both if both are available... and then you just have to hope that if you lose wifi, nothing important was trying to use the wifi |
| 21:40.07 | eightyeight | maquis: so, if i was connected via wifi, and i plug in a cat5, what happens? |
| 21:40.15 | maquis | granted, i don't know for sure... that's just my guess based on past experience |
| 21:40.32 | sojourner | eightyeight: depends on the priority settings of your network cards |
| 21:40.33 | maquis | eightyeight: then it has 2 network connections |
| 21:40.48 | eightyeight | which does it use when sending packets? |
| 21:41.21 | sojourner | eightyeight: open the properties on your "My Network Places" desktop icon |
| 21:41.30 | eightyeight | i know with the latest version of networkmanager, for example, in this exact scenario, it would use the cat5 |
| 21:42.09 | sojourner | Advanced->Advanced Settings... |
| 21:42.23 | eightyeight | checking. hold please |
| 21:42.29 | sojourner | assuming you're using XP |
| 21:42.33 | eightyeight | yes |
| 21:45.19 | eightyeight | still waiting for windows to show my properties dialog... |
| 21:45.57 | sojourner | i feel your pain |
| 21:46.14 | sojourner | i have to work with windows every day |
| 21:46.35 | eightyeight | this is a work laptop. fortunately, i don't have to deal with windows on personal machines |
| 21:46.58 | eightyeight | i should probably reboot, because that fixes everything in windows, right? |
| 21:47.05 | sojourner | no, fdisk does |
| 21:47.15 | maquis | i just know that on rare occasions, if my work laptop loses wifi in the middle of the day, one app will have problems, and the others are all fine |
| 21:47.22 | maquis | but i don't know why |
| 21:48.05 | sojourner | bad karma |
| 21:48.11 | maquis | yeah |
| 21:48.24 | maquis | i think the windows laptop knows i dislike it... |
| 21:48.33 | maquis | so, it likes to remind me that the feeling is mutual |
| 21:49.39 | eightyeight | i don't understand why it takes so long to move emails from the outlook inbox to a separate .pst (or whatever they're called) |
| 21:50.01 | eightyeight | with my connection on the lan, this should take seconds, but instead, it takes nearly 30 minutes |
| 21:50.10 | sojourner | i'm not going there ;) |
| 21:50.13 | eightyeight | and i'm still waiting for the properties dialog |
| 21:51.28 | eightyeight | hmm. i can pull up other properties dialogs, but not 'my network places'. any other way to get to it? |
| 21:51.30 | maquis | eightyeight: wait... you're trying to do something *while* outlook is thinking? |
| 21:51.42 | Zelut | gasps |
| 21:51.45 | eightyeight | maquis: what? xp can't multitask? |
| 21:51.54 | maquis | eightyeight: not when outlook is one of the tasks |
| 21:52.33 | eightyeight | well, in that case, i better get a nap in while it's parsing the inbox |
| 21:53.00 | maquis | :P |
| 21:53.11 | eightyeight | does the math |
| 21:54.42 | sojourner | i've seen issues with XP when that particular dialog will not come up |
| 21:54.50 | eightyeight | 2000 emails * 15KB / email = 30MB. at 300KBps, this should only take ~2 minutes, right? it's only gone through 700 emails, and it's been 15 minutes |
| 21:54.58 | sojourner | try "Control Panel->Network Connections" |
| 21:55.25 | eightyeight | sojourner: k, now what? |
| 21:55.50 | sojourner | do you have an Advanced menu item? |
| 21:55.55 | eightyeight | y |
| 21:56.06 | sojourner | open that and go to Advanced Settings... |
| 21:56.11 | eightyeight | k. waiting... |
| 21:56.19 | sojourner | you'll see your network cards listed on the first tab |
| 21:56.23 | eightyeight | k |
| 21:56.23 | sojourner | if you're lucky |
| 21:56.28 | eightyeight | yup |
| 21:57.04 | sojourner | reorder the cards with the Gig card on top |
| 21:57.09 | sojourner | if it isn't |
| 21:57.10 | eightyeight | i see. the order in that list from top to bottom. got it |
| 21:57.21 | sojourner | that'll set the default priority of the cards |
| 21:57.27 | eightyeight | danke |
| 21:57.40 | sojourner | np |
| 22:15.51 | sjansen | drags dpkg out back to shoot it in the head |
| 22:16.33 | eightyeight | oh, now what? |
| 22:16.36 | Sargun | The sea: A giant heatsink |
| 22:16.49 | Sargun | if there was only an efficient way to transport heat tens of miles. |
| 22:18.44 | eightyeight | ~shoot sjansen |
| 22:18.44 | ibot | ACTION shoots sjansen in the head with a frozen turkey cannon! |
| 22:19.10 | sjansen | I made the mistake of switching from FreeNX to Tacix. Now I'm trying to switch back and instead of doing a proper job of cleaning up one set of packages and installing the other, it's leaving random crap around then barfing half-installed packages all over my system. |
| 22:20.02 | eightyeight | are you just removing, or purging? |
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| 22:20.42 | sjansen | purging |
| 22:20.58 | eightyeight | describe 'barfing half-installed packages' |
| 22:25.41 | sjansen | Part way through the install process, it craps out. Afterwards, aptitude reports "partially installed packages". Manually resolving the errors that caused it to crap out, I've gradually moved from one error message to another. |
| 22:25.52 | sjansen | But I really shouldn't have to do that. |
| 22:26.49 | eightyeight | did you run 'apt-get install -f'? |
| 22:27.24 | eightyeight | this will 'fix' any broken packages on the system, either by removing them entirely, or resolving any needed dependencies, and installing |
| 22:28.25 | JoshH | i love sjansen's debian stories |
| 22:33.35 | sojourner | apt-get: it cleans up barf for you! |
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