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| 02:05.55 | ibot | ok, eightyeight |
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| 03:43.07 | elg | pong |
| 03:43.12 | Tene | elg: /msg ? |
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| 15:18.42 | sjansen | ~rlart |
| 15:18.43 | ibot | accelerates a free AOL cd to 50,000 rpm and lets mecworks_ feel it |
| 15:19.06 | sjansen | *sigh* |
| 15:19.14 | sjansen | Raise your hand if you even remember AOL CDs. |
| 15:20.29 | Sargun | Raised. |
| 15:20.48 | goozbach | sjansen: I use them as coasters |
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| 15:21.34 | Sargun | Frisbee. |
| 15:22.05 | sjansen | pictures goozbach's bachelor apartment |
| 15:22.30 | unum | I remember AOL floppies |
| 15:22.34 | sjansen | Empty bottles of Bawls and cans of Mt Dew everywhere with AOL CDs winking underneath. |
| 15:23.20 | sjansen | Oh, and discarded grapefruit like used heroin bags. |
| 15:25.07 | goozbach | sjansen: that's pretty close to what it looked like |
| 15:25.14 | goozbach | my little shanty in Magna anyway |
| 15:25.30 | goozbach | a mattress on the floor, a borrowed card table in the kitchen |
| 15:26.34 | goozbach | no chairs |
| 15:26.38 | unum | of course you were there less than half the time |
| 15:26.43 | goozbach | two giant lovesacs |
| 15:27.07 | goozbach | bawls bottles across the top of the fridge, stacked in the wall btween the kitchen and living room |
| 15:27.18 | goozbach | a *small* tv on a cardboard box |
| 15:27.40 | JoshH | that sounds pretty close to my first bachelor pad, except for liquor/beer instead of bawls, and medium size tv on an old wooden block |
| 15:27.53 | JoshH | but i had the card table |
| 15:28.01 | JoshH | and mattress on floor |
| 15:28.08 | JoshH | those days were fun |
| 15:28.33 | goozbach | now I have a wife |
| 15:28.39 | goozbach | which means I have a bedframe |
| 15:28.48 | goozbach | a kitchen table with matching chairs |
| 15:28.50 | goozbach | a sofa |
| 15:28.59 | goozbach | (with the funny useless pillows) |
| 15:29.01 | JoshH | same here, and i now have a frame, and matching headboard and footboard |
| 15:29.12 | JoshH | sofa and loveseat, but no lazy boy unfortunately |
| 15:29.18 | goozbach | pillows on the bed you're not allowed to lay on |
| 15:29.44 | goozbach | rugs, art and pictures |
| 15:29.45 | JoshH | i don't have those, but i do have hand towels that are just for looks |
| 15:29.53 | JoshH | and if you dry your hands on them, you will incur some wrath |
| 15:30.10 | goozbach | and everything is Super CLEAN (TM) |
| 15:30.28 | goozbach | and all my shirts are ironed in the closet |
| 15:31.31 | JoshH | ok, you win |
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| 15:52.02 | sjansen | ~rlart |
| 15:52.03 | ibot | beats JoshH senseless with a 50lb Unix manual |
| 15:52.24 | sjansen | whistles casually |
| 15:52.45 | sjansen | checks the time |
| 15:53.09 | Jayce^ | at the beginning of today's work, a couple hundred pages of API documentation.... "Compared to fixed length or binary formats the XML format is much easier for operations staff to read....." |
| 15:53.13 | sjansen | laughs into his beard |
| 15:53.25 | Jayce^ | is not going to enjoy today |
| 15:53.48 | sjansen | Jayce^: So edit it as you read. |
| 15:54.16 | sjansen | "Compared to tea leaves and animal entrails, the XML format is much easier for operations staff to read...." |
| 15:54.24 | Jayce^ | seriously |
| 15:55.15 | Newsome | don't forget to change "much easier" to "slightly easier" |
| 15:55.58 | Jayce^ | looks at the xsd's that accompany the docs... and cries.. |
| 15:56.36 | goozbach | dear godaddy.com I can has SSL CERT nao? |
| 15:57.03 | sjansen | goozbach: Careful, nao means no in portugues. |
| 15:57.16 | goozbach | dear godaddy.com I can has SSL CERT now? |
| 15:57.25 | goozbach | naow? |
| 15:57.50 | goozbach | what's the proper lol syntax? |
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| 16:04.55 | eggyknap | synic: ping, when you get a sec. |
| 16:12.00 | ^Migs^ | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/6153518/Crumbs-half-of-Britons-injured-by-their-biscuits-on-coffee-break-survey-reveals.html |
| 16:12.06 | ^Migs^ | "More than half of all Britons have been injured by biscuits ranging from scalding from hot tea or coffee while dunking or breaking a tooth eating during a morning tea break, a survey has revealed. " |
| 16:12.18 | ^Migs^ | "An estimated 25 million adults have been injured while eating during a tea or coffee break - with at least 500 landing themselves in hospital, the survey revealed. " |
| 16:12.25 | ^Migs^ | Conclusion: Brits are naturally clumsy. |
| 16:17.34 | jalbretsen | bangs head on desk and screams "KHAN!!!!!!!" |
| 16:19.08 | JoshH | i get tea and i get coffee, but i don't get dunking |
| 16:19.10 | JoshH | why does anyone do that |
| 16:21.04 | sjansen | ~taunt jalbretsen |
| 16:21.04 | ibot | ACTION taunts jalbretsen a second time |
| 16:22.44 | jalbretsen | I wish this client would have listened to me when I told them we needed move these servers over to VPS-es more slowly and test them to make sure they work, but nnnnooooooooooooooooooo |
| 16:24.44 | sjansen | ~blame jalbretsen |
| 16:24.45 | ibot | ACTION blames jalbretsen (and Canada) for all the evil in the world |
| 16:26.04 | jalbretsen | and that's exactly what they did |
| 16:26.21 | jalbretsen | YOU SHOULD HAVE TESTED THIS! YOU SHOULD HAVE KNOWN! |
| 16:26.54 | jalbretsen | no no, once you saw one sort of work, you didn't want to listen anymore and placed the order and made me do it |
| 16:27.04 | jalbretsen | s/work/worked/ |
| 16:27.22 | jalbretsen | oh nice |
| 16:28.05 | jalbretsen | when I did a correction like that in chat at work, people looked at me funny even though they knew what I was doing. |
| 16:29.17 | JoshH | you used a regex in front of normal people? crazy |
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| 16:33.54 | sjansen | ~pity jalbretsen |
| 16:33.55 | ibot | I pity da fool jalbretsen! |
| 16:39.39 | jalbretsen | :) |
| 16:45.27 | Sargun | who is this jalbretsen fellow? |
| 16:46.59 | sjansen | Jake Albretsen. Astronomer by day, sun bather by night. He's always up for a challenge. |
| 16:49.07 | sjansen | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/funny-pictures-cat-loves-sparkling-string.jpg |
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| 16:49.51 | Sargun | sjansen, should I be afraid? |
| 16:55.36 | Sargun | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:55.53 | Sargun | wonders what's broken with his addition |
| 16:55.53 | sjansen | As a general policy, or of jalbretsen specifically? Because as a general policy I've always been in favor of a little paranoia. |
| 16:59.29 | sjansen | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:00.03 | sjansen | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:05.49 | Sargun | yeah, I found the issue. |
| 17:05.51 | Sargun | :-( |
| 17:06.05 | levi | Yo. |
| 17:09.25 | sjansen | ~shave levi's belly with a rusty razor |
| 17:09.25 | ibot | ACTION grabs the razor & shaving cream & chases levi's belly with a rusty razor until he sees TheRedBaron... then grabs TheRedbaron & dry shaves TheRedBaron from head to toe! |
| 17:12.46 | elg | ibot: you missed |
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| 17:51.41 | Keighvin | ~whaleslap redbeard2 |
| 17:51.42 | ibot | ACTION beats redbeard2 upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 18:01.36 | levi | Sweet, Apple open-sourced Grand Central Dispatch. |
| 18:01.58 | levi | I'm not sure it will get a lot of use outside of Apple, but it's interesting nonetheless. |
| 18:02.26 | elg | ~8ball |
| 18:02.27 | ibot | ACTION rolls the eight ball and gets: Very doubtful |
| 18:02.57 | levi | No wonder I'm hungry, it's lunch time already. |
| 18:03.35 | elg | ~eat levi |
| 18:03.36 | ibot | That's too disgusting. |
| 18:04.14 | elg | no lunch for you then |
| 18:08.09 | levi | elg: I wish you luck in your efforts to not have to pay your former landlord. |
| 18:49.36 | sjansen | Wow, the more I learn about the Debian installer, the more my mind boggles at how fundamentally broken it is. |
| 18:52.09 | Jayce^ | hehe, a friend was *just* complaining about the rpm one, and trying to find somebody to help on that side... |
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| 18:52.44 | Jayce^ | so if anybody is interested, I know freeside needs some help for the RPM builds |
| 18:54.10 | Jayce^ | goozbach, jsmith maybe? :-p |
| 18:55.01 | sjansen | See, this is what bugs me about Debian people. They don't seem to have a good grasp of what the moving parts even are. |
| 18:55.31 | sjansen | There is no "RPM installer". There's Anaconda, the Red Hat installer, YaST the SUSE installer. Etc. |
| 18:56.13 | jsmith | Jayce^: I'd be happy to help when I have time... but I'm a little swamped at the moment |
| 18:56.21 | sjansen | I'm not debating the merits of package managers, but installers. (Although I think the disadvantages of DPKG outweigh its advantages.) |
| 18:56.31 | jsmith | Jayce^: Do you have details on what they've done so far, where they need help, etc? |
| 18:57.00 | Jayce^ | jsmith: Ivan does, he was just.... umm, commenting gracefully on the current state of the RPM's, and mentioned that he had work he needed done |
| 18:57.11 | Jayce^ | as gracefully is ivan can, that is.. |
| 18:57.53 | jsmith | :-) |
| 18:58.03 | jsmith | Yeah... he's as subtle as a chainsaw, isn't he? |
| 18:58.17 | Jayce^ | I would offhand guess that he needs rpms specs that actually build from the tree version, instead of some forcibly hard-coded set of files |
| 18:58.24 | Jayce^ | exactly... the f-bombs were flying |
| 18:58.56 | jsmith | Oh, if only somebody would pay me to take a one-week/one-month/one-year sabbatical |
| 18:59.03 | jsmith | Imagine all the good I could accomplish in the world |
| 18:59.03 | Jayce^ | mostly I guess the original rpm's just aren't done the way they really should be, and he isn't familiar enough with them, and has no time to be :) |
| 18:59.20 | Jayce^ | jsmith: yeah, but the sleep you got instead would be wonderful |
| 18:59.21 | jsmith | Imagine that... I see he didn't even have time to go to the ITExpo show |
| 18:59.47 | jsmith | Sleep is over-rated... that's why doughnuts were invented... a donut is equivalent to a half-hour of sleep |
| 19:00.04 | Jayce^ | yeah, it's overload time, between managing the business/customers/etc and trying to actually develop.. |
| 19:00.40 | sjansen | Jayce^: What do you mean "tree version"? RPMs are normally created from tar balls, not SVN checkouts. So hopefully he means "from our normal release file". |
| 19:01.23 | Jayce^ | sjansen: I'm not sure what he needs, I'm hazarding wild guesses from limited context I could squeeze out between the various curses |
| 19:03.57 | sjansen | I've wrangled quite a few spec files, including from scratch. Might be willing to help, but I'll put up with zero abuse or guff 'cause as far as I'm concerned RPM is clearly superior. |
| 19:04.35 | Jayce^ | sjansen :) I just know he wants it working for customers/distros, he's a debian guy himself,.. |
| 19:04.48 | Jayce^ | knows how to munge his own crap, but not others as well |
| 19:05.28 | sjansen | And I'm willing to try helping, but if he's my point of contact one strike and he's out. |
| 19:06.19 | Jayce^ | hehe :) |
| 19:06.23 | sjansen | I get payed to put up with people's ignorance, but outside of the class it pisses me off pretty quickly, so I'll just walk since I don't care beyond doing you a favor. |
| 19:07.02 | Jayce^ | he's just an ornery little hippy :) and if you are doing larger stuff, he'd contract if you were working |
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| 19:29.43 | harleypig | GAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! |
| 19:29.50 | harleypig | sorry ... tension breaker ... had to be done. |
| 19:30.31 | Supaplex | me0w |
| 19:33.27 | harleypig | Supaplex: you're not wearing leather by any chance are you? |
| 19:33.28 | harleypig | :> |
| 19:34.10 | Supaplex | nay |
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| 19:44.36 | Supaplex | tosses a ball of yarn in the blendmaster1024 |
| 19:44.48 | blendmaster1024 | ducks |
| 19:44.52 | blendmaster1024 | what was that for? |
| 19:45.12 | Supaplex | just boredom. |
| 19:45.32 | Supaplex | lazy antics on irc for fun. |
| 19:45.46 | blendmaster1024 | oh |
| 19:45.55 | blendmaster1024 | i was trying to play along |
| 19:46.17 | Supaplex | I would think a ball of yarn would jam a blender. :) |
| 19:46.25 | blendmaster1024 | haha |
| 19:46.36 | blendmaster1024 | but i am the master of blends, not a blender :) |
| 19:46.57 | Supaplex | fair enough |
| 19:49.55 | Jayce^ | http://www.amazon.de/ALUMINIUM-Baseballschl%C3%A4ger-30-American-Baseball/dp/B000NL495I/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&s=sports&qid=1251362194&sr=8-7 |
| 19:50.02 | Jayce^ | check that, and look at the "Also Bought" |
| 19:57.12 | harleypig | gloves and a mask ... hmmm |
| 19:57.37 | Jayce^ | and spray |
| 19:57.53 | Supaplex | silly germans. |
| 19:58.15 | harleypig | I noticed some of the recommended books too ... I can't read the titles but the cover art is interesting. :> |
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| 20:39.58 | Jayce^ | elg: you see http://www.boingboing.net/2009/09/11/bach-canon-played-as.html |
| 20:55.00 | harleypig | Jayce^: that's pretty cool |
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| 21:09.58 | Supaplex | laters |
| 21:13.36 | ^Migs^ | cya |
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| 21:27.21 | JoshH | sjansen: what's the problem with d-i? |
| 21:28.24 | sjansen | Lack of documentation. |
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| 21:28.37 | sjansen | Poorly defined partitioning behavior. |
| 21:29.09 | JoshH | you mean no good descriptions on the partitioning screen? |
| 21:29.50 | sjansen | Can't use as many install sources as Anaconda or even YaST. |
| 21:29.59 | sjansen | No, in preseed. |
| 21:30.05 | JoshH | oh |
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| 21:30.21 | JoshH | yes, i absolutely hate setting up partitions in preseed files |
| 21:30.36 | JoshH | wouldn't really consider that the "debian installer" though |
| 21:31.07 | sjansen | Considering how trivial it is to get reasonable behavior with Anaconda or YaST, I do. |
| 21:31.33 | elg | Jayce^: that's pretty cool. but i'm curious |
| 21:32.00 | elg | i have the 3-part and 6-part ricercare (that's the tune it is) and the timing is different on the melody |
| 21:32.20 | elg | is that "crab canon" something he did separate? |
| 21:32.31 | elg | anyway the visualization is kinda cool |
| 21:33.34 | Jayce^ | as if I know :) |
| 21:33.51 | Jayce^ | but yeah visually seeing it like that really got me |
| 21:34.06 | tristanbob_ | does anyone else use the google search toolbar on Firefox to remove HTML formating from a copy/paste? |
| 21:38.18 | levi | "crab canon" does not refer to a particular piece, it's a kind of canon. |
| 21:43.14 | sjansen | ~whalecanon levi |
| 21:47.54 | elg | levi: yes, but this would obviously be a particular crab canon |
| 21:51.03 | levi | I've only seen it referenced as the Canon from "Musical Offering" |
| 21:51.06 | Jayce^ | head-crabs? |
| 21:51.15 | Jayce^ | they had those on rockets at some parts |
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| 21:57.29 | elg | which is what confuses me. I have the musical offering (the 3-part and the 6-part) and this doesn't sound familiar, unless he's playing it wrong |
| 21:57.44 | elg | which he may well be. :) |
| 21:59.01 | levi | I would guess that it's being played wrong, then. |
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