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| 00:27.10 | homewhiting | hey all, anyone know of a lug in salt lake area that might be attending the utah opensource conference next month? |
| 00:47.35 | elg | A big lug? </pun> |
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| 00:55.12 | macnewbold | homewhiting: there will be people from almost all the LUGs there. SLLUG, PLUG, OALUG, and groups like UPHPU will all be represented I'm sure. |
| 00:56.45 | homewhiting | macnewbold: any idea if any of them are kde-friendly? or kde-centric even? |
| 01:01.33 | homewhiting | I'm a lonely kde dev living in southern utah |
| 01:01.34 | homewhiting | =) |
| 01:28.36 | blendmaster1024 | what the heck... |
| 01:29.16 | blendmaster1024 | www.utosc.com just disappeared |
| 01:29.36 | blendmaster1024 | the domain disconnected from it's ip or something |
| 01:29.46 | homewhiting | blendmaster1024: http://2009.utosc.com/sponsor/list/ is still working here |
| 01:30.00 | blendmaster1024 | register.utosc.com isn't here |
| 01:30.17 | blendmaster1024 | what are the ips for your domain servers? |
| 01:30.19 | homewhiting | and www.utosc.com redirects to http://2009.utosc.com/pages/home/ and is working fine here |
| 01:30.25 | blendmaster1024 | :P |
| 01:30.29 | homewhiting | my domain servers? |
| 01:30.36 | blendmaster1024 | your dns servers |
| 01:30.54 | homewhiting | I use infowest for dns if that's what you mean, but I'm not affiliated with utosc in any way (I just live in southern utah, so use infowest) |
| 01:31.25 | blendmaster1024 | i know that you're not connected... |
| 01:31.28 | blendmaster1024 | argh |
| 01:31.48 | blendmaster1024 | do you know what the root server is? |
| 01:32.14 | blendmaster1024 | it's ip? |
| 01:32.17 | peno | works fine for me |
| 01:32.24 | homewhiting | not off the top of my head, no... |
| 01:32.35 | homewhiting | blendmaster1024: having dns issues there probably? =p |
| 01:32.47 | blendmaster1024 | hmm and that seems to be an anomaly - other sites dns just fine |
| 01:33.05 | blendmaster1024 | fixed it |
| 01:33.06 | homewhiting | dns caching? |
| 01:33.08 | homewhiting | hehe |
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| 02:18.39 | Jayce^ | hehe, from the Ogden Std. Examiner's twitter stream: |
| 02:18.45 | Jayce^ | "God says there is considerable interest from multiple developers for Ogden River Project" |
| 02:18.57 | blendmaster1024 | :P |
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| 15:37.05 | sjansen | ~rlart |
| 15:37.05 | ibot | cuts off zzzirk_a`'s head with a halberd that could have been a little bit sharper |
| 15:42.19 | Jayce^ | first his appendix, now his head... yeesh |
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| 15:47.53 | {-} | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/6145785/Scouts-to-no-longer-bring-penknives-on-camping-trips.html |
| 15:48.05 | wps | I just rebuilt my server recently |
| 15:48.13 | wps | logwatch is now way too verbose |
| 15:48.22 | wps | it's set on level 0 though (low) |
| 15:48.33 | wps | the biggest thing that's filling it up is that it's including apache's access log |
| 15:48.37 | wps | I don't really care about 404s |
| 15:48.44 | wps | I've been googling unsuccessfully |
| 15:48.55 | wps | anyone know how I can exclude access_log from logwatch? |
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| 16:17.27 | tensai | {-}: well now that's just stupid |
| 16:17.42 | tensai | I for one always take my sheath knife camping |
| 16:19.29 | Jayce^ | tensai: that and I usually have a pocketknife on me... just way handy |
| 16:19.54 | tensai | Jayce^: I always have some kind of knife. for camping trips I bring out the good stuff. |
| 16:20.02 | Jayce^ | yup |
| 16:20.18 | Jayce^ | tensai: you must be one of those conservative nutjobs :-p |
| 16:20.29 | tensai | and lookie at all 10 of those fingers I still have |
| 16:20.49 | {-} | Further proof that the British are off they're rockers with fear mongering. |
| 16:20.50 | Jayce^ | amazing |
| 16:20.54 | Jayce^ | agreed |
| 16:21.07 | tensai | {-}: the bsa does forbid sheath knives for scout camping trips |
| 16:22.11 | Jayce^ | yeah, but that is a more recent development (relatively speaking) |
| 16:22.20 | Jayce^ | used to be 3" before that |
| 16:22.43 | tensai | now it's 3" *and* no sheaths |
| 16:22.55 | Jayce^ | yeah |
| 16:23.01 | tensai | I can't stand the bsa |
| 16:23.02 | Jayce^ | ingnores |
| 16:23.19 | Jayce^ | tensai: I like it at the troop level, but I've long ignored the council and above |
| 16:24.00 | tensai | agreed |
| 16:24.10 | unum | I wish I could find a knife locally to replace the one I've had for 20 years. |
| 16:24.15 | unum | guess I'll just have to order on line. |
| 16:24.19 | Jayce^ | unum: what kind? |
| 16:24.43 | tensai | I make one trip a year to the council office to pay camp fees, but otherwise I stay far away |
| 16:25.23 | Jayce^ | yeah, the bishop has learned it's not good to lean on me during Friends Of Scouting time.. |
| 16:25.51 | {-} | http://confederateyankee.mu.nu/archives/288585.php |
| 16:25.52 | brac | [Confederate Yankee: Brits Debut "Stab-Proof" Knives] |
| 16:26.00 | unum | http://www.wengerna.com/handyman-16933 |
| 16:26.00 | tensai | on a more serious note, my brother lost his job last week. recent college grad looking for entry level stuff. degree is international relations w/ minor in japanese. |
| 16:26.04 | unum | that's the one I want |
| 16:26.10 | unum | it's a little thicker than the one I have |
| 16:26.16 | tensai | any pointers, recommendataions, etc would be greatly appreciated |
| 16:28.07 | Jayce^ | the wengers are pretty nice, though I've usually leaned toward victorinox myself :) cabelas usually has a wider selection compared to most local stores |
| 16:29.19 | unum | does cabelas cary wengers? |
| 16:29.29 | Jayce^ | out-n-back might have a few too |
| 16:29.30 | wps | wengers? |
| 16:29.32 | unum | I've really like my wenger, I've had it for 20 years |
| 16:29.33 | wps | what's a wenger? |
| 16:29.34 | Jayce^ | yeah |
| 16:29.44 | Jayce^ | swiss army type knife |
| 16:29.50 | wps | that's a bad name |
| 16:30.08 | Jayce^ | they have the rounded square logo with the cross, vs the victorinox sheild design |
| 16:30.10 | unum | anglers inn carried them and so did shopko, but shopko doesn't seem to carry much selection anymore |
| 16:30.14 | wps | hard to pronounce |
| 16:30.35 | unum | it's from the french part of switzerland and victorinox is from the german |
| 16:30.55 | wps | ah |
| 16:30.57 | Jayce^ | actually, is that reversed? |
| 16:31.08 | unum | with the names you would think so |
| 16:31.11 | Jayce^ | yeah |
| 16:31.17 | unum | but that's the way someone who lived there told me it was |
| 16:31.29 | unum | but maybe he had mixed them up |
| 16:31.35 | Jayce^ | heh, was just checking on a couple of old knives I have from the family... wow.. |
| 16:31.40 | Jayce^ | RH Ruana knives.. |
| 16:32.05 | Jayce^ | http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trksid=p3907.m38.l1311&_nkw=ruana+knife&_sacat=See-All-Categories |
| 16:32.30 | Newsome | Victorinox bought Wenger in 2005 |
| 16:32.34 | Jayce^ | ahh |
| 16:32.40 | {-} | ~revoke Jayce^'s sharp object permit |
| 16:32.41 | ibot | ACTION confiscates and destroys Jayce^'s sharp object permit's DNRC membership certificate |
| 16:32.53 | unum | the wenger can opener is the only one I've ever liked |
| 16:33.20 | Jayce^ | I've loved the victorinox forward openers.. |
| 16:34.19 | {-} | Newsome lives! |
| 16:35.16 | Newsome | yes, I suppose so |
| 16:37.42 | macnewbold | homewhiting: i'm sure that there are KDE fans in the local LUGs. I've heard several people talking about kubuntu and such. |
| 16:42.19 | unum | macnewbold: we stoned them all over the summer |
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| 16:45.37 | synic | eggyknap: ping |
| 16:45.40 | sojourner | quitting KDE was easy, except for the major bruises and the twitch in my right eye |
| 16:45.42 | eggyknap | synic: pong |
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| 16:57.07 | levi | Hi, everyone. |
| 17:00.37 | {-} | ~greet levi |
| 17:00.38 | ibot | ACTION dumps a bucket of cold oatmeal on levi |
| 17:01.29 | levi | If I filed a bug against a product you supported with instructions on how to reproduce it, wouldn't you... try to reproduce it? |
| 17:01.53 | goozbach | yeah |
| 17:02.04 | goozbach | but I don't live in tech support bizzaro world |
| 17:03.37 | {-} | levi: Have we reached the point in my support script where I try to reproduce your problem, or are we still on the steps where I insult your intelligence? |
| 17:04.22 | levi | This isn't 1st level tech support for a consumer product, this is engineering support for a chip. |
| 17:04.34 | levi | A buggy chip. |
| 17:06.17 | goozbach | {-}: you're forgetting the first step |
| 17:06.19 | {-} | levi: Why didn't you say so. I don't need to reproduce your problem because you're wrong. Our chips don't have bugs. |
| 17:07.01 | goozbach | have the person repeat what they say 7 or 8 times because your copy of rosetta stone didn't prepare you for a fast-talking southern accent |
| 17:07.39 | levi | This is, by the way, a chip developed FOR US to our specifications. |
| 17:15.25 | goozbach | there's your problem, the specification was wrong |
| 17:15.28 | goozbach | :) |
| 17:15.45 | jsmith | That's the nice thing about specifications.... there are *so* many ways to interpret them |
| 17:17.12 | tensai | jsmith: and there's so many to choose from. pick your favorite! |
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| 17:19.02 | tensai | elg: what was it I was going to ask you? |
| 17:20.53 | jsmith | tensai: You were going to ask him about having multiple m= lines in SDP, and what the proper way is to decline various media offers |
| 17:21.15 | jsmith | tensai: You were going to ask him to teach you how to use Facebook |
| 17:21.36 | jsmith | tensai: You were going to ask him whether he prefers anaheim or poblano chiles |
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| 17:26.43 | Sargun | I'm organizing data hierarchial: Customer -> request type, or Request type -> customer? |
| 17:27.25 | levi | http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/visualizations/the-hierarchy-of-digital-distractions/ |
| 17:29.06 | tensai | Sargun: huh? |
| 17:32.19 | stderr | wat |
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| 17:36.47 | elg__ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xh9Mko23JeA |
| 17:36.59 | elg__ | tensai: you were going to ask me how I got so awesome |
| 17:37.11 | elg__ | and if you can have any of my sourdough baguette |
| 17:37.12 | elg__ | no, you can't |
| 17:38.07 | tensai | elg__: my what a long tail you have, grandma |
| 17:38.32 | tensai | elg__: I think I was going to ask if you looked for Lenscrafters. that's the place I got my 1-hour glasses. |
| 17:38.32 | elg__ | the better to whack you with. haven't you played super mario world? |
| 17:38.47 | elg__ | lenscrafters was one of the places that didn't do 1-hour |
| 17:38.50 | elg__ | at least the one I called |
| 17:39.11 | levi | I thought their catchphrase was 'Quality glasses in about an hour' |
| 17:39.15 | neybar | elg__: My ears... the bleeding. |
| 17:39.48 | elg | i found a place called site for sore eyes that did it |
| 17:39.53 | elg | and took my insurance |
| 17:39.58 | elg | so i now can see again. yay! |
| 17:40.08 | levi | Yay! |
| 17:40.16 | elg | this time I got titanium memory frames so hopefully they won't get terribly distorted and/or broken |
| 17:40.41 | elg | the last pair did last what, 5 years? but they were so bent up it was terrible, even before they broke |
| 17:40.54 | elg | that's the problem with kids. always jumping on yo' face |
| 17:41.22 | levi | I haven't had that problem. A chip broke off of the finish on my frames, but it's not very obvious. My problem is with lenses getting scratched, and the coatings flaking off. |
| 17:41.34 | elg | jsmith: the answer is neither |
| 17:41.38 | elg | or maybe anaheim |
| 17:41.43 | elg | er, sorry, maybe poblano |
| 17:41.47 | levi | But I've had these for probably ~8 years now. |
| 17:41.54 | tensai | elg: I've lost two pairs to two kids, at about 2 years of age. the new one is about due to destroy this pair. |
| 17:41.59 | elg | but that's not a fair question. they're totally different purposes. |
| 17:42.06 | elg | anaheim are sad imitations of new mexico though |
| 17:42.28 | neybar | has anyone tried the anti-glare coating on their eye glasses? I had it put on my current pair. The anti-glare is nice, but the coating is soft. I've had them just over a year and they are so scratched I can barely see through them. |
| 17:42.38 | elg | this one has anti-glare |
| 17:42.55 | levi | neybar: My anti-glare coating is what's flaking off of one lens. |
| 17:42.57 | elg | i don't know about anti-scratch. i didn't pay much attention, I just wanted to get them fast. |
| 17:43.15 | elg | the optometrist recommended anti glare and I've never had it so I figured why not |
| 17:43.28 | elg | has anyone got that polychromic (Transitionsâ¢) thing? |
| 17:43.36 | neybar | I have transitions. |
| 17:43.40 | elg | does it work? |
| 17:43.49 | elg | is it true that they don't shade in the car? |
| 17:43.55 | neybar | yes |
| 17:44.02 | elg | so they're useless for driving? |
| 17:44.03 | neybar | it only works if UV light hits them. |
| 17:44.04 | tensai | I compared some with anti-glare and I liked the effect, but couldn't justify the price |
| 17:44.14 | elg | and I gather useless for flying, which is why I considered it |
| 17:44.33 | tensai | I like the snap-on shades |
| 17:44.53 | levi | My frames are so small that dark lenses wouldn't do much for keeping bright light out of my eyes. |
| 17:44.56 | elg | i'll probably just get a pair of perscription shades. i'm eligible for another pair from insurance in january |
| 17:45.01 | elg | aviation style |
| 17:45.10 | levi | I got some separate big chunky sunglasses. |
| 17:45.16 | elg | aviation style make great shades, and really silly-looking specs. |
| 17:45.27 | elg | at least by current style |
| 17:45.37 | levi | They're hipster-cool, though. |
| 17:45.42 | neybar | levi: I have the same problem. My lenses are so small that even when they go dark it isn't much protection from bright sunlight |
| 17:46.48 | levi | My sunglass frames are a bit too wide, so I have to use a strap on the back to keep them on. But they block out the sun well. :) |
| 17:47.14 | elg | this spammer is to the point. |
| 17:47.18 | elg | "Your e-mail address has won the British Telecom Promotion.Therefore you have been approve to claim the sum of 1,000,000.00 GBP. Send Names: Address: Country: Phone No: Occupation:" |
| 17:48.51 | levi | I keep telling myself I'll get new glasses, but I never get around to it. |
| 17:49.04 | elg | levi: you need to let your toddler jump on your face a few times |
| 17:49.30 | levi | It's happened before, but it hasn't broken my frames yet. |
| 17:49.36 | elg | I think I should get a cheap spare online |
| 17:49.43 | levi | My kids are sure good at breaking their own sunglasses, though. |
| 17:50.16 | elg | apparently glasses are insanely marked up |
| 17:50.29 | elg | and cost like $15 a pair wholesale |
| 17:51.01 | levi | That is what I suspected. |
| 17:51.07 | elg | so if you know the size you need and aren't so sensitive to style that you just have to try on and buy the designer brands... |
| 17:51.23 | elg | http://www.43folders.com/2007/11/29/adventures-40-eyeglasses |
| 17:51.40 | elg | but there is the processing/shipping time. not much more than a regular optometrist really, but more than the 1-hour places. |
| 17:51.42 | elg | obviously |
| 17:52.04 | levi | I have a hard time finding frames that don't look silly on me due to the narrowness of my face. |
| 17:52.49 | Jayce^ | has the opposite problem.. wider face, high cheekbones |
| 17:53.01 | Jayce^ | thankfully I only need sunglasses (so far) |
| 17:53.07 | levi | Sounds like Apple is going to lower the iPod Touch price to $199 for 8Gb. |
| 17:53.38 | levi | And a 16Gb for $299, and 64Gb for $399. |
| 17:53.40 | tensai | elg: if you order some online please let me know how it goes |
| 17:54.08 | levi | Or maybe the $299 is 32Gb, not sure. |
| 17:54.22 | tensai | needs a new prescription soon |
| 17:59.36 | ^Migs^ | http://bitmob.com/index.php/mobfeed/new-dreamcast-game-announced.html |
| 18:00.55 | levi | iPod Nanos are getting video cameras. |
| 18:02.34 | Jayce^ | and speakers |
| 18:02.39 | levi | And FM radios |
| 18:02.44 | harleypig | From xkcdb: [ 'hip', 'hip' ] |
| 18:02.46 | goozbach | no AM radios? |
| 18:02.52 | harleypig | hip hip array |
| 18:02.56 | harleypig | :> |
| 18:02.57 | goozbach | hah! |
| 18:10.18 | elg | awesome |
| 18:11.12 | levi | elg: How do you end up playing in a different key than your recorded accompaniment? Yow. |
| 18:11.32 | elg | don't trumpets come in two flavors? b flat and C or something |
| 18:11.35 | elg | that's probably what happened |
| 18:12.18 | elg | the question is did she practice on the right trumpet and end up with the wrong key for performance (maybe it was her friend's and shinier or something) - and just grin and bear it (or not notice) |
| 18:12.32 | elg | or did she practice with the wrong key trumpet the whole time, and is totally tone deaf? |
| 18:14.07 | levi | She had clearly done some practicing, considering the choreography and whatnot. |
| 18:15.05 | levi | This reminds me of a video I saw of a Van Halen concert where the recorded background tape was played at the wrong sample rate and so the band couldn't play in key with it. |
| 18:15.53 | elg | ouch |
| 18:16.06 | elg | (technically a tape is analog, so no sample rate, just tape rate) |
| 18:16.36 | levi | DAT is digital tape. :) |
| 18:17.12 | levi | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJ7lS2nEk-0 |
| 18:19.34 | elg | in that case. :) |
| 18:20.17 | levi | Hubble is back in action: http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2009/09/09/its-baaaaaaaack/ |
| 18:20.26 | mrpull | i wonder if there is some behind the scenes agreement with the cell phone carriers to not put cameras in the touches (to protect iphone sales) |
| 18:20.35 | mrpull | its a stretch, but an explanation |
| 18:20.58 | levi | More likely would be Apple wanting to keep extra differentiation between the Touch and iPhone. |
| 18:21.46 | mrpull | did they put mics on the new touches? |
| 18:21.58 | levi | Didn't hear anything about that. |
| 18:22.15 | levi | I would guess not, though. |
| 18:22.32 | mrpull | looks like the nanos have them given the voice recording app screenshot |
| 18:22.42 | mrpull | doh |
| 18:22.52 | mrpull | and the big screenshot showing mic and speaker |
| 18:23.21 | levi | Looks like the 32 and 64Gb Touches come with earphones that have a mic in them. |
| 18:24.54 | levi | I'm guessing that means no internal Mic. Probably the only hardware change was populating with a higher-capacity flash chip. |
| 18:25.10 | levi | Which makes sense considering the price drop. |
| 18:25.14 | mrpull | there is a faster cpu |
| 18:25.32 | mrpull | a guess, but it'd make sense for the better 3D |
| 18:25.42 | mrpull | similar to the 3GS bump in 3D |
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| 18:26.47 | levi | Probably the new CPU is the same footprint. |
| 18:27.21 | mrpull | i may get a touch for my 5 yr olds |
| 18:27.33 | mrpull | so they'll stop wrestling for my iphone |
| 18:27.34 | levi | Though the Touch probably uses the same board as the iPhone, so I guess adding a camera and mic wouldn't mean a new layout. |
| 18:44.20 | Jayce^ | apples download servers are hammered |
| 18:46.23 | levi | I like the iTunes Home Share thing. |
| 18:50.01 | Jayce^ | yeah, I just want to see if it works for more than just your itunes purchased items.. |
| 18:50.07 | Jayce^ | otherwise it's only partially useful |
| 19:02.52 | stderr | levi: my iPhone came with earphones w/ a mic. |
| 19:05.51 | goozbach | harleypig: here's one you may like: http://www.xkcdb.com/?5311 |
| 19:05.52 | brac | [XKCDB: The #xkcd Quote Database] |
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| 20:27.40 | tristanbob_ | did anyone know that nomachine released a free version of their NX server? |
| 20:31.14 | harleypig | goozbach: that's funny ... makes me wonder what the discussion was that led up to that response ... |
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| 21:05.25 | jshipley | how long should it take a netbook to boot from a USB? |
| 21:06.15 | goozbach | 5min |
| 21:07.00 | jshipley | Does it normally display a plain black screen with a blinking cursor in the corner for the a while when it starts? |
| 21:07.16 | goozbach | no Idea |
| 21:07.23 | goozbach | it was just a snarky response |
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| 21:12.21 | fungus | 32.8 seconds. any more or less and it will crash soon after |
| 21:17.18 | jsmith | celebrates getting a *killer* deal on having his propane tank refilled |
| 21:17.48 | jshipley | :( I think that the usb boot isn't working |
| 21:19.28 | sojourner | jshipley: switch ports |
| 21:20.47 | goozbach | jsmith: how big is the propane tank? |
| 21:21.22 | Supaplex | [----this-big----] (not to scale) |
| 21:21.27 | jsmith | goozbach: A thousand gallons of compressed goodness :-) |
| 21:21.56 | goozbach | ohhh |
| 21:22.01 | fungus | 1000? What do you do with 1000 gallons of propane? |
| 21:22.26 | fungus | are you a terrorist? |
| 21:22.28 | fungus | ;) |
| 21:22.33 | jsmith | fungus: It heats my house in the winter-time... runs the tankless hot water heater all year round... and powers my generator when the power goes out |
| 21:22.35 | Supaplex | cook countless cheese pizzas |
| 21:22.50 | sojourner | propane balloons |
| 21:23.19 | Jayce^ | jsmith: mmm, tankless and a generator... /me has envy |
| 21:23.35 | Jayce^ | speaking of which, I have to replace my water heater this week :( |
| 21:23.48 | fungus | is propane cheaper than natural gas? |
| 21:23.49 | jsmith | Jayce^: Taking advantage of the tax credits? |
| 21:24.00 | Jayce^ | current one just started leaking |
| 21:24.04 | Jayce^ | bad |
| 21:24.21 | Jayce^ | so, you know, would rather replace *now* than have it flood next week |
| 21:25.09 | Sargun | Does anyone know a good generator that I can boot up over serial? |
| 21:25.26 | Sargun | serial/usb/using a simple circuit |
| 21:25.38 | eightyeight | anyone still posting to usenet these days? |
| 21:25.43 | Sargun | eightyeight, rarely. |
| 21:25.53 | eightyeight | Sargun: what app do you use? |
| 21:25.57 | Sargun | thunderbird |
| 21:26.06 | Sargun | is thinking of building a "datacenter in the closet" for someone, we need better power redundancy |
| 21:26.11 | goozbach | Jayce^: /me has green too |
| 21:26.13 | eightyeight | does your isp provide an nntp account? |
| 21:26.17 | Sargun | eightyeight, yeah |
| 21:26.39 | eightyeight | comcast closed theirs with giganews, and i'm not sure of my options at this point |
| 21:26.58 | Sargun | We can get UPSes that give us about 15 minutes, which should give enough time for the generator to come online, and for feed to switch over |
| 21:27.08 | Sargun | I just need something to start the generator |
| 21:27.25 | jsmith | Sargun: My generator kicks on auto-magically when the power goes out |
| 21:27.33 | jsmith | Sargun: (and it self-tests every week) |
| 21:27.37 | Sargun | What brand? |
| 21:27.54 | Sargun | Does it turn off when the power goes on? |
| 21:28.08 | fungus | is jsmith running a home datacenter, or is he a hermit nutjob? |
| 21:28.40 | jsmith | Sargun: Mine is a Generac... and yes, it kicks off once the power is back on |
| 21:28.52 | jsmith | fungus: Just a nerd who works from home and hates power outages |
| 21:28.57 | fungus | nice! |
| 21:29.04 | Sargun | generacs are Expensive. |
| 21:29.14 | Sargun | nice, but $ |
| 21:29.27 | Jayce^ | jsmith: mine is a manual and unleaded, been working on putting in a transfer switch so I don't have to do it the hard way.. |
| 21:29.34 | Jayce^ | but haven't needed it in ages |
| 21:30.07 | Sargun | Jayce^, Are you doing a transfer switch per circuit? |
| 21:30.21 | Sargun | Jayce^, and do you have a UPS? |
| 21:30.37 | Jayce^ | yes UPS, no per circuit |
| 21:31.50 | Sargun | Hm |
| 21:32.09 | Sargun | needs to figure out how to automatically start a generator. |
| 21:33.40 | jsmith | Sargun: With a transfer switch :-p |
| 21:34.06 | Sargun | jsmith, I was thinking of buying a honda, it's really clean running, pretty quiet, and only $3k |
| 21:34.41 | Sargun | It doesn't seem to have a way to interface with a transfer switch though |
| 21:35.01 | jsmith | Sargun: You probably shouldn't look at this photo then :-p |
| 21:35.06 | jsmith | Sargun: http://www.zooomr.com/photos/jsmith/2417242/ |
| 21:35.31 | Sargun | nifty. |
| 21:36.10 | Jayce^ | now, are you building a farady cage into that noise suppression box too? :-p |
| 21:36.19 | Jayce^ | you know, just in case :) |
| 21:37.33 | jsmith | Well, the generator itself is inside a steel box, so technically.... |
| 21:37.38 | jsmith | ... it's a faraday cage |
| 21:37.48 | jsmith | ... and the transfer switch is in the basement.... in a metal box... |
| 21:39.47 | goozbach | ok that catan board is *AWESOME* |
| 21:39.55 | jsmith | goozbach: You like? |
| 21:40.04 | jsmith | goozbach: Let's just say it gets a *lot* of use :-p |
| 21:40.33 | goozbach | nice |
| 21:40.43 | jsmith | is a Catan addict |
| 21:41.51 | tristanbob_ | any recommendations for a bluetooth headset for cellphone? |
| 21:42.37 | fungus | tristanbob_ http://blogs.ajc.com/iceman-thrashers-blog/files/2009/03/borg.jpg |
| 21:43.14 | fungus | or.. http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/8928/ |
| 21:43.15 | brac | [ThinkGeek :: ThinkGeek Bluetooth Retro Handset] |
| 21:43.32 | tristanbob_ | fungus, it is for my wife... so if I can control her, all the better |
| 21:47.10 | jshipley | tristanbob_: http://tinyurl.com/3mhvjl |
| 21:47.12 | brac | [Guy Makes Steampunk Bluetooth Headset - Geekologie] |
| 21:47.14 | fungus | hehe. I've heard good things about the jawbone 2 |
| 21:47.41 | fungus | personally I hate them. |
| 21:52.14 | tristanbob_ | looks like the soundassassin tech is good |
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| 22:02.21 | eightyeight | ~seen findlay |
| 22:02.23 | ibot | findlay <n=justin@unwired-44.guest.inscc.utah.edu> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 6d 1h 15m 15s ago, saying: 'well, yes, then I only care about that privileged handful'. |
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| 22:14.58 | Sargun | Stupid OO.org question, how do I limit a function, supposed I have 100-Y, I always want this function to be >= 0 |
| 22:15.11 | Sargun | so, if y>100, then floor the function at 100 |
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| 22:21.19 | jsmith | Sargun: Can't you just do Min(y,100)? |
| 22:22.57 | Sargun | Y is a cell that isn't controlled by It |
| 22:23.00 | Sargun | er, me |
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| 23:31.33 | blendmaster1024 | sighs... |
| 23:32.02 | blendmaster1024 | i'm curious: is anybody here *not* going to utosc? and if not, why? |
| 23:32.41 | elg | too far. |
| 23:32.54 | blendmaster1024 | ? |
| 23:33.02 | blendmaster1024 | oh |
| 23:33.07 | blendmaster1024 | haha, took me a minute |
| 23:33.30 | blendmaster1024 | i thought you where talking *about* my Q, not answering :P |
| 23:34.23 | sojourner | blendmaster1024: was the daytime sig not well attended today? |
| 23:34.41 | blendmaster1024 | nope, just me and herlo |
| 23:34.54 | sojourner | dang |
| 23:35.12 | sojourner | i have a tough time slicing two hours out of my day to get there |
| 23:35.26 | sojourner | is working during those hours |
| 23:35.54 | sojourner | plan on attending utosc tho |
| 23:38.40 | blendmaster1024 | i have school during those hours |
| 23:38.47 | blendmaster1024 | i skip it :) |
| 23:39.01 | sojourner | lucky you :D |
| 23:39.03 | blendmaster1024 | SLLUG is much more important then school |
| 23:39.15 | blendmaster1024 | if i worked, i would skip that too probably |
| 23:39.36 | blendmaster1024 | only time i wouldn't is if i was in danger of getting fired for it |
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