| 00:08.15 | Sargun | elg, Clams taste good. |
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| 00:30.06 | tensai | elg: the definition of "vegetarian" is a rather amorphous one |
| 00:30.43 | tensai | ask 1000 vegetarians, get 1001 answers |
| 00:37.53 | harleypig | Is there a way to find out what packages are available from a repository with apt? I'd like to see what google has available but when I try to go to http://dl.google.com/linux/deb/[any combination of testing|stable and [main|non-free] gives me the Not Found page |
| 00:38.47 | Sargun | Wait, wait, ask me! |
| 00:39.13 | harleypig | ummm ... that was a general question for the channel ... :> |
| 00:39.31 | Sargun | Directed to tensai |
| 00:40.51 | tensai | Sargun: dare I? |
| 00:41.04 | Sargun | I eat * ! humans. |
| 00:41.43 | harleypig | what are * ! humans? |
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| 02:45.53 | tristanbob__ | harleypig, here is my guess "* = everything" and "! = Not" |
| 02:46.02 | tristanbob__ | so he eats everything except humans |
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| 03:51.29 | tensai | I hardly believe that's true |
| 04:07.25 | levi | Good evening. |
| 04:13.46 | tensai | heads out for a late night hardware replacement |
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| 04:22.02 | levi | Oh geez: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090903/ap_on_re_us/us_shot_in_court_1 |
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| 05:27.05 | elg | anyone use kmymoney? |
| 05:33.23 | levi | Nope, sorry. |
| 05:33.26 | levi | http://www.sltrib.com/ci_13264495 |
| 05:33.50 | levi | A Trib article about the outrage generated by Obama's school speech announcement. |
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| 10:15.21 | Supaplex | another 12hour shift, now history. |
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| 15:07.10 | bbeattie | anyone know of a local store that sells laptop batteries? |
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| 15:09.31 | sjansen | Batteries Plus |
| 15:10.13 | sjansen | http://maps.google.com/maps?oe=utf-8&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=batteries+plus&near=Salt+Lake+City,+UT&fb=1&split=1&gl=us&view=text&ei=sS2hSslshbCzA6nepI0P&sa=X&oi=local_group&ct=more-results&resnum=4# |
| 15:11.49 | goozbach | since when did hot chicks start going to geek conventions? |
| 15:12.24 | goozbach | I just went downtown to get some DQ fries and saw a gaggle of goth-girls in miniskirts heading to dragon-con |
| 15:12.42 | Migs | hahaha |
| 15:12.51 | Migs | you find goth girls in miniskirts hot? |
| 15:13.31 | goozbach | these were |
| 15:14.07 | goozbach | pigtails, short skirts, long socks |
| 15:14.09 | RyanE | geeks have just gotten rich enough to hire a gaggle of girls in miniskirts to come be booth babes. |
| 15:14.25 | goozbach | RyanE: I doubt they were booth babes |
| 15:14.55 | goozbach | they were fraternizing with some homely dudes (and weren't near a booth where they're obligated to) |
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| 15:24.12 | Jayce^ | elg: do you know what kind of processing FB does on the user uploaded photos.. seems to play with the contrast some.. |
| 15:24.31 | elg | not off-hand no |
| 15:25.40 | Jayce^ | while my pictures aren't good enough to notice it really, some nice shots get washed out a bit via FB |
| 15:26.19 | Jayce^ | compare http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/photo.php?pid=1417876&id=1104871141 and http://www.flickr.com/photos/jeremyhall/3884751109/ |
| 15:26.23 | Jayce^ | same source file |
| 15:26.47 | Jayce^ | most companies do some, but have been discussing it a bit with my bro, who was complaining about how much FB does |
| 15:27.05 | elg | i don't see any contrast change, maybe when I get to work on my nice monitor I will |
| 15:27.14 | elg | i do see it's more fuzzy, more compressed no doubt |
| 15:27.52 | elg | i doubt we do any explicit changing of contrast etc. |
| 15:28.03 | elg | though it may be possible that jpeg settings we use do |
| 15:28.05 | Jayce^ | ah, yeah, there is a difference in the brightness.. |
| 15:28.15 | Jayce^ | especially notice in on B&W ones |
| 15:28.28 | goozbach | Jayce^: do you have the RAW image :) |
| 15:28.41 | Jayce^ | my brother does, yeah |
| 15:28.50 | Jayce^ | process everything from RAW |
| 15:28.58 | goozbach | just kidding |
| 15:29.02 | Jayce^ | I've still gotta go through mine from that same wedding |
| 15:29.15 | goozbach | yay! my debian auto install works! |
| 15:29.26 | goozbach | now to figure out how best to do my post-install script |
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| 15:29.40 | goozbach | I wonder if I can utilize cobbler's template language... |
| 15:31.22 | Jayce^ | ooh, cool pics : http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1210538/Pictured-The-incredible-light-graffiti-created-host-light-sources-shine-straight-camera-lens.html |
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| 15:35.29 | bbeattie | ryane: I have a switch that's stuck on the 666 attempt to flash to miniapp, I'm wondering if it was luck or some developer figured that's a good place to stop. ;) |
| 15:36.50 | bbeattie | sjansen: thanks, they didn't have anything larger than 1800mah, was looking for 4k-4.8k :( guess it's online now |
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| 16:31.10 | elg | Jayce^: ok, I see it on this one http://www.flickr.com/photos/jeremyhall/3884157103/in/photostream/ http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=1417876&id=1104871141#/photo.php?pid=1417565&id=1104871141 |
| 16:31.36 | Jayce^ | yeah, the B&W really does it |
| 16:31.52 | elg | the other B&W i don't see it |
| 16:32.43 | elg | but that one I do. If I had to guess I'd say that the dark one was too dark and fb is helping out. your brother might disagree but he's a pro. other photos by amateurs that are that dark probably look better if you adjust the contrast |
| 16:32.51 | Jayce^ | look at the tones in the door some.. it's not quite as harsh, because not as much black |
| 16:33.17 | elg | if that's the case, I wonder if there could be a "i'm a professional photographer" setting for uploading photos, so they're not preproc'd |
| 16:33.46 | goozbach | it may be a factor of compression? |
| 16:33.53 | Jayce^ | I'm sure they'd love it |
| 16:34.04 | elg | it may be, but I don't see how. but i'm not a jpeg expert |
| 16:34.06 | goozbach | having to quadruple their storage |
| 16:34.16 | goozbach | that'd be *AWESOME* |
| 16:34.27 | elg | i doubt even professional photographers would get a by on the image compression we do |
| 16:34.49 | elg | but if there's preproc going on it might be feasible to opt out |
| 16:34.51 | Jayce^ | which is why so many go for smugmug, etc.. |
| 16:37.22 | elg | i don't know whether we've targeted the professional photographer for photo sharing... |
| 17:18.20 | sjansen | elg: How long have you worked for FB? You're supposed to know these things! |
| 17:18.31 | sjansen | Oh, and you're supposed to stop all the FB spam. |
| 17:25.55 | elg | sjansen: I set up a script to send you a FB invite every morning. is it working? |
| 17:41.22 | unum | and get the im thing fixed as well |
| 17:41.32 | unum | I can only imagine what a nightmare that is |
| 17:41.38 | unum | honestly I'm quite impressed with it |
| 17:50.52 | elg | do you mean libpurple/facebook? from what I hear libpurple is actually screen scraping |
| 17:51.01 | elg | which explains its less-than-stellar reliability |
| 17:51.18 | goozbach | when's the xmpp support gonna come out? |
| 17:51.55 | elg | http://developers.facebook.com/news.php?blog=1&story=110 |
| 17:52.00 | elg | is using it now |
| 17:52.22 | elg | "the near future" that was may. so the near future is nearer now. :) |
| 17:52.32 | elg | so in the nearer future |
| 17:53.52 | RyanE | bbeattie: I don't know, not familiar enough with the firmware, but I'd guess a smart-aleck dev. |
| 18:14.05 | Pavlz | hello friends you are invited to watch: http://blog.ninux.org/2009/09/03/ninux-day-2009 |
| 18:18.23 | Migs | what if we don't want to? |
| 18:29.46 | Migs | EWWW http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/67.jpg |
| 18:31.21 | harleypig | http://peopleofwalmart.com/?p=1061 |
| 18:43.47 | jshipley | tar seems to have problems archiving files that change frequently (like log files). Does anybody know how well tar deals with a directory that changes during the archive operation? |
| 18:46.21 | sjansen | harleypig: http://notalwaysright.com/on-the-need-for-hazard-pay-part-2/2433 |
| 18:46.48 | sjansen | That was you, wasn't it? |
| 18:47.36 | sjansen | jshipley: My bet is not well. That's why snapshots are helpful for backups. |
| 18:48.44 | jshipley | Can you make tar skip files that were created after the process started? |
| 18:48.52 | jshipley | How would you grab the snapshot? |
| 18:49.34 | sjansen | LVM |
| 18:50.45 | sjansen | lvcreate -s --name backup /dev/vg01/lv01 |
| 18:51.08 | sjansen | Newer filesystems like ZFS and btrfs have snapshotting built in. |
| 18:51.58 | sjansen | jshipley: You could give tar the exact file names instead of directory names. |
| 18:52.08 | unum | ZFS requires you to use bsd or salaris and btrfs requires you to wait a few years |
| 18:52.56 | sjansen | touch backup.tar && find /dir/to/backup ! -type d | xargs tar rf backup.tar |
| 18:53.37 | sjansen | Linus is already using btrfs for his root FS, so if you don't mind living on the wild side... |
| 18:58.01 | jshipley | piping through xargs should still work if there are millions of files, right? |
| 18:59.30 | sjansen | jshipley: Only if you pay close attention to my example. You can't use tar cf, you have to use tar rf, hence the touch. |
| 18:59.54 | sjansen | Just to be safe, the following would be better: |
| 19:00.01 | elg | sjansen: don't offend harleypig. Obviously it wasn't him or she would have fainted. |
| 19:00.07 | sjansen | touch backup.tar && find /dir/to/backup ! -type d -print0 | xargs -0 tar rf backup.tar |
| 19:02.33 | elg | -chat sjansen eats |
| 19:02.33 | brac | sjansen eats |
| 19:02.42 | elg | sjansen eats kittens |
| 19:02.47 | sjansen | ate at Five Guys |
| 19:02.48 | elg | -chat sjansen wears |
| 19:02.48 | brac | sjansen wears |
| 19:02.58 | elg | sjansen wears kitten fur coats |
| 19:03.07 | elg | -chat sjansen wipes |
| 19:03.07 | brac | sjansen wipes |
| 19:03.14 | elg | sjansen wipes his nose on kitten fur |
| 19:03.28 | sjansen | ~lart cruelg |
| 19:03.28 | ibot | --purges cruelg |
| 19:03.35 | elg | -chat sjansen eats |
| 19:03.35 | brac | sjansen eats kittens |
| 19:03.48 | elg | -chat sjansen ate |
| 19:03.48 | brac | sjansen ate at Five Guys and girls |
| 19:04.01 | elg | an improvement to be sure! |
| 19:04.58 | elg | -chat |
| 19:04.59 | brac | (I did.) |
| 19:05.03 | elg | lazy bum |
| 19:05.39 | levi | -chat elg is |
| 19:05.40 | brac | elg is hans |
| 19:05.47 | levi | Insightful. |
| 19:05.49 | levi | -chat elg was |
| 19:05.49 | brac | elg was all we got the pop-top weekender vanagon in the first one for christmas |
| 19:06.32 | levi | -chat elg sees |
| 19:06.33 | brac | elg sees |
| 19:06.38 | levi | -chat elg saw |
| 19:06.38 | brac | elg saw |
| 19:06.52 | Migs | I thought I heard last year that Second Life was going to start deploying inside-the-firewall grids solutions, so you could sign up, and just have a contained Second Life grid for your employees, so they can't access others |
| 19:06.52 | levi | -chat elg |
| 19:06.53 | brac | elg went from a dynamic to static ip in different class C's |
| 19:06.55 | Migs | anyone know about thsi? |
| 19:07.26 | Migs | Google is only finding some reports about it, but it was supposed to be launched in Q1 2009 |
| 19:08.02 | levi | But that'd take all the fun out of it. ;) |
| 19:08.17 | sjansen | Why would anyone want a second life server for their employees? |
| 19:09.43 | Migs | well, for us, it would be for our teachers and students |
| 19:09.51 | Migs | ideally through Teen Second Life |
| 19:09.55 | levi | Maybe because someone told them that 3-d online collaborative environments were the wave of the future? |
| 19:10.53 | Migs | In this case, it would be to create learning opportunities for the children, engage them better, and do things like virtual field trips, Moodle integration with SL, and give them a social learning space to gather |
| 19:10.53 | levi | Wouldn't be as much fun without the naked avatars running around and swarms of flying phallic bots interrupting things. :P |
| 19:11.06 | Migs | There's also OpenSim...thought about trying that |
| 19:11.16 | Migs | still in alpha, though, but I know a lot of teachers are using it already |
| 19:11.29 | levi | There's the Croquet thing, too. |
| 19:11.50 | sjansen | *sigh* |
| 19:11.57 | sjansen | It's Oregon Trail all over again. |
| 19:12.46 | sjansen | Gonna kill a lot of time, students won't learn anything other than dysentery sucks, but everyone will feel all warm and fuzzy 'cause they're so cutting edge. |
| 19:13.23 | Migs | yeah, there's a few options |
| 19:13.40 | Supaplex | sup Migs |
| 19:13.45 | Migs | well, I didn't really see any learning value to Second Life, until I saw some of the stuff other teachers were doing |
| 19:13.50 | Migs | hey HEY hey, Supaplex |
| 19:15.00 | levi | Croquet looks like it will forever be stuck in research-land. |
| 19:15.02 | Supaplex | hence why the 'get a life' now favors 'get a real life' |
| 19:15.10 | Migs | Croquet wouldn't work anyway...because the system would need in-game building tools |
| 19:15.20 | elg | sjansen: oregon trail was fun. can't we just have fun sometimes? |
| 19:15.40 | Migs | I have a feeling we're not "quite there" yet as far as in-house virtual worlds go. So far, the best option seems to be Multiverse, but you have to use an external prog like Sketchup to import your models |
| 19:15.51 | levi | Last time I tried it, it had a full development environment. |
| 19:15.54 | Migs | unless Linden Labs has an in-house version |
| 19:18.48 | levi | You could go all retro and run a text-based educational MUD instead. ;) |
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| 20:01.08 | sjansen | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1210534/Bike-enthusiast-develops-electric-penny-farthing-travels-13mph.html |
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| 20:17.20 | Migs | http://qdb.us/299616 |
| 20:17.20 | brac | [QDB: Quote #299616] |
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| 20:25.11 | harleypig | sjansen: :D that wasn't me ... but I've got an idea now! :> |
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| 20:55.00 | synic | eggyknap: ping |
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| 21:04.51 | blendmaster1024 | hey all, anyone know power supplies? |
| 21:05.25 | blendmaster1024 | trying to find a power supply that will power this: http://download.intel.com/support/motherboards/server/se7501hg2/prod_guide.pdf |
| 21:06.09 | blendmaster1024 | the big problem is, i don't know what provides a standing 5w or whatever it wants - nothing i've found yet says anything about it |
| 21:06.11 | sjansen | . $(PATH=$(cd $(dirname $0) && pwd):$PATH which nxloadconfig) -- |
| 21:06.17 | sjansen | ^^^ Pure evil |
| 21:07.04 | blendmaster1024 | huh? |
| 21:08.23 | elg | boggles |
| 21:08.24 | sojourner | blendmaster1024: it's likely just standby power |
| 21:08.53 | blendmaster1024 | whatever, but i don't know how to tell if a power supply has it. i'm searching ebay right now |
| 21:09.00 | sojourner | blendmaster1024: most new pwr supplies have it |
| 21:09.05 | blendmaster1024 | ok |
| 21:09.21 | sojourner | just make sure you get a 450 Watt |
| 21:09.28 | sojourner | the connection is what you are looking for |
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| 21:32.52 | sojourner | blendmaster1024: something like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817147084 |
| 21:33.30 | sojourner | but it depends on your case |
| 21:34.02 | sojourner | you'll need a power supply with an additional 12v 8pin connector for that board |
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| 23:38.55 | elg | grumble. netcat is ignoring -w |
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