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| 15:41.57 | sjansen | Hola. |
| 15:42.19 | sjansen | Como estan ustedes? |
| 15:42.42 | sjansen | Trabajando duro, o duramente trabajando? |
| 15:42.55 | jsmith | sjansen: Estamos cansado... y tenemos hambre |
| 15:43.10 | jsmith | sjansen: How goes the battle w/ Lenovo? |
| 15:44.09 | sjansen | Tech came an tried to fix the laptop Friday. Replacing keyboard and palm rest didn't help. Spent a couple hours installing drivers and such. Eventually called headquarters mystified. HQ also didn't have a clue. |
| 15:44.41 | sjansen | They decided they wanted me to ship back the laptop. I asked if I could reuse a box I already had instead of waiting for them to ship me one. |
| 15:45.11 | sjansen | They agreed to send a shipping label. Several hours later when I still hadn't heard from them, I called back to confirm they were sending a label. |
| 15:45.43 | sjansen | Turns out, the guy I was talking to didn't know what he was talking about. Lenovo support only ships boxes. Apparently the box I had wasn't good enough. |
| 15:46.24 | sjansen | According to Lenovo policy, boxes have a shelf life of only 30 days or something. |
| 15:47.32 | sjansen | Box arrived Friday, but I decided to hang onto my laptop over the weekend so I could update Gnucash as I payed bills and such. |
| 15:49.07 | sjansen | Sometime Sunday laptop started working again. As of now, I'm using it without a problem. Part of me hopes the problem has disappeared as mysteriously as it appeared. |
| 15:49.30 | jsmith | It's a trap |
| 15:49.33 | jsmith | Don't do it! |
| 15:49.35 | jsmith | Send it back! |
| 15:53.44 | sjansen | I still have almost a year on the warranty. I'd rather hang onto it then play shipping roulette. |
| 15:53.56 | sjansen | s/then/than/ |
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| 15:57.37 | RyanE | sjansen: and as a bonus, free box! |
| 15:57.49 | RyanE | Which also won't be good by the time you need to send it in again. |
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| 16:20.49 | *** topic/#utah by sjansen -> http://utos.org/irc | Log @ http://ibot.rikers.org/#utah | UTOSC 2009 Registration is open - http://sn.im/utos-reg | sjansen: My laptop is lulling me into a false sense of security. Thanks for asking. |
| 16:38.02 | unum | hello everyone! |
| 16:39.03 | sjansen | ~welcome unum |
| 16:39.04 | ibot | Welcome to the party, unum! |
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| 17:05.12 | harleypig | http://bash.org/?901201 |
| 17:05.13 | brac | [QDB: Quote #901201] |
| 17:05.54 | sjansen | http://www.gurulabs.com/linux-training/locations/remote_classroom_training/ |
| 17:06.53 | sjansen | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:56.04 | Migs | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0v3d6SFcDys |
| 17:56.21 | goozbach | sjansen: why don't they anymore |
| 17:56.23 | goozbach | ? |
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| 18:09.36 | Sargun | Ok, stupid question, I've asked this a bunch of times, how do you provide a search location for RPM deps? |
| 18:23.27 | Migs | RT @BreakingNews: Walt Disney Co. says it will acquire Marvel Entertainment in a deal valued at around $4 billion. |
| 18:24.45 | Sargun | :-( Sad |
| 18:25.21 | unum | :( |
| 18:25.32 | Migs | that's pretty stupid |
| 18:25.39 | unum | in case anyone is curious the bechler is beautiful |
| 18:25.43 | Migs | SPIDERMAN VS. MICKEY MOUSE |
| 18:25.55 | unum | didn't see much wild life but the rivers are pretty |
| 18:38.30 | sjansen | goozbach: Read the statement again. Carefully. |
| 18:39.18 | sjansen | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:39.47 | sjansen | ~whip elg |
| 18:39.48 | ibot | ACTION takes elg outside to be thoroughly whipped by sjansen |
| 18:40.06 | sjansen | What?! ibot! |
| 18:40.18 | sjansen | I expect you to do my dirty work for me you lazy bot! |
| 18:40.46 | sjansen | Sargun: What do you mean "provide a search location for RPM deps"? |
| 18:40.52 | Sargun | --aid |
| 18:41.00 | Sargun | I figured it out |
| 18:41.24 | sjansen | Ah. I'd forgotten about --aid. That still works, huh? |
| 18:44.00 | Sargun | haha, yeha |
| 18:44.14 | elg | Migs: on the bright side, we might get a movie Mickey vs. Wolverine |
| 18:44.17 | Sargun | I can't stand the guys in #centos sometimes. |
| 18:44.18 | Sargun | <Zathrus> Sargun: which is just a deeply broken version of yum. |
| 18:44.39 | sjansen | Sargun: He's not wrong. |
| 18:45.34 | Migs | I'd love to see Marvel vs. Disney, like Marvel vs. Capcom |
| 18:45.46 | Migs | JUGGERNAUT vs. MINNIE MOUSE |
| 18:46.15 | Migs | WOLVERINE vs. GIZMODUCK |
| 18:46.44 | Migs | that would be awesome |
| 18:52.57 | sjansen | http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10594014 |
| 19:15.37 | Migs | what's the best hotel in Salt Lake? |
| 19:16.07 | goozbach | little america |
| 19:16.12 | goozbach | is a nice one |
| 19:16.29 | Migs | oh you're right...I haven't been there in years |
| 19:20.00 | Migs | trying to find a nice hotel for my wife's birthday |
| 19:21.35 | unum | anniversary inn |
| 19:23.15 | Migs | is that a B&B? |
| 19:23.31 | Migs | we're taking the kids along |
| 19:24.37 | unum | I think it is a B&B |
| 19:24.51 | Migs | meh, everything's booked at the Anniversary Inn |
| 19:25.43 | unum | probably not what you are looking for if you are bring kids anyways |
| 19:25.54 | unum | little america is probably a better fit |
| 19:26.04 | unum | I think that's where the president always stays |
| 19:28.13 | Migs | and how often does the president come to Salt Lake City, Utah? |
| 19:28.39 | sjansen | Argh. |
| 19:28.41 | unum | not very often |
| 19:28.51 | unum | but when he does he stays at the little america :) |
| 19:28.56 | unum | I think they usually go to park city |
| 19:28.57 | Migs | wtf, I just sneezed a big sneeze, and now my eyesight's starting to fade |
| 19:29.06 | sjansen | Overall, Python ain't a bad language. But for a language with a goal of avoiding quirks, it has some pretty annoying quirks. |
| 19:29.17 | goozbach | sjansen: thats the sound of a PHP user trying something else, isn't it? |
| 19:29.26 | goozbach | hah! |
| 19:35.35 | levi | The kids might enjoy the Anniversary Inn if they're not old enough to figure out what the theme rooms are *really* for. ;) |
| 19:37.01 | levi | But, man, I wouldn't ever get a hotel room and take the kids along if I wasn't on the road. That's even less fun than staying at home. |
| 19:39.30 | Migs | is there enough room in the Anniversary Inn? |
| 19:39.39 | Migs | my wife doesn't like the idea of a B&B so much |
| 19:39.43 | Migs | I can tell you that already |
| 19:40.17 | Migs | I agree with you, levi, but it's what my wife wants for her birthday |
| 19:40.25 | Migs | frankly, I don't see the point, but oh well |
| 19:41.34 | levi | Well, she'll know better after this. |
| 19:42.30 | levi | Have you looked at the Anniversary Inn rooms? |
| 19:44.08 | levi | They're not so much bedrooms as they are backdrops for roleplay fantasies. |
| 19:45.19 | sjansen | http://www.anniversaryinn.com/rooms.php?room=64 |
| 19:45.19 | brac | [Anniversary Inn - Fifth South - Mysteries Of Egypt] |
| 19:46.06 | levi | We toured one the locations while looking for a wedding night hotel. We decided on a nice B&B instead. |
| 19:46.32 | sjansen | Seems like a great place to let the kids loose to run up and down the halls. |
| 19:47.16 | levi | I'm sure it could be great fun for little kids, or great fun for adults, but not so much for both together. |
| 19:48.58 | levi | I've stayed at both the Armstrong Mansion B&B and the Anton Boxrud B&B, and they were both pretty nice. |
| 19:49.22 | Migs | it seems like most of them are only designed for two people |
| 19:49.29 | Migs | I might take her next year for our anniversary |
| 19:49.42 | Migs | though isn't it kind of lame, going to Anniversary Inn for an anniversary? |
| 19:49.47 | Migs | it's, like, HELLO! PREDICTABLE! |
| 19:50.08 | levi | Actually, I think Anniversary Inn is kind of lame, period. |
| 19:50.56 | fungus | not as lame as Motel 6 |
| 19:52.02 | sjansen | Oh, I dunno... |
| 19:52.05 | levi | We took a tour of Hotel Monaco, too. It was fairly nice. The restaurant is good, too, if the catering at the business function I went to there was any indication. |
| 19:52.22 | levi | Motel 6 is less cheezy, and much cheaper. |
| 19:52.40 | sjansen | Motel 6 says "I'm cheap and not planning on spending much time in this space." |
| 19:53.06 | sjansen | Anniversary Inn, OTOH... |
| 19:54.25 | fungus | I doubt very many females would prefer Motel 6 over Anniversary Inn, especially for an Anniversary, no matter how predictable it is. |
| 19:55.00 | levi | Depends on how cheezy they find the Anniversary Inn rooms to be, I would guess. |
| 19:55.14 | sjansen | Well, the implication of Motel 6 is the majority of the waking hours will be spent somewhere more interesting. |
| 19:55.48 | sjansen | Maybe I'm jaded because I've already spent too much of my life in hotel rooms. |
| 19:55.49 | fungus | Right, and on an anniversary, shouldn't you be spending more time "in"? |
| 19:55.59 | sjansen | No matter how swanky, a hotel room is still a hotel room. |
| 19:56.13 | levi | Anniversary Inn is anything but 'swanky'. |
| 19:56.43 | unum | well a classy b&b is better than a motel 6 then |
| 19:56.52 | levi | Totally. |
| 19:56.57 | unum | assuming you are planning on spending time inside |
| 19:57.05 | sjansen | I haven't physically been in an AI room, but from the flash 360 view reminded me of upscale versions of some shoe boxes I've stayed in. |
| 19:57.33 | levi | sjansen: I've physically been in a lot of them. That's called 'tacky', not 'swanky'. |
| 19:58.46 | levi | Executive suites at the Grand America are swanky. |
| 19:59.35 | levi | Or, even better, their Presidential Suites. |
| 19:59.44 | levi | http://www.grandamerica.com/presidential.html |
| 19:59.44 | brac | [Presidential Suites, The Grand America Hotel] |
| 20:00.02 | fungus | ~translate es en tirar basura orinar o defecar |
| 20:00.07 | unum | maybe it's grand america not little america that I was thinking of |
| 20:00.38 | levi | Well, Little America was the swank place before Grand America was constructed, I think. |
| 20:00.45 | jsmith | unum: Yes... the Grand America is definitely swankier |
| 20:02.05 | unum | I think migs is the one who was looking |
| 20:02.23 | unum | sounds like he should look at those two |
| 20:02.51 | levi | I wouldn't waste that kind of money on a hotel stay with kids. |
| 20:03.56 | Migs | yeah, Grand America is too much |
| 20:04.08 | Migs | my wife was actually looking at a CHEAPER place than Little America, but I forgot where it was |
| 20:13.36 | sjansen | The Extended Stay in Woodscross? |
| 20:13.55 | sjansen | Book a month, get a week free. |
| 20:19.54 | Migs | yeah, I'm sure that's what she had in mind |
| 20:22.30 | levi | I stayed in a hotel with the wife and kids just a week ago. It was even a halfway decent room, with a couple of queen beds and a sofa-beds, a kitchenette, etc. I would much rather have been at home. |
| 20:42.04 | sjansen | ~frown elg |
| 20:43.28 | elg | so my glasses frame is broke. my awesome optometrist (just had an appt) only carries expensive frames |
| 20:43.47 | elg | there's a repair place that charges $35-$60 depending on the material, the break, etc. |
| 20:43.53 | elg | i have a soldering iron |
| 20:43.59 | elg | or maybe I could get a hot glue gun |
| 20:44.19 | elg | so I have so many choices. hot glue my battered frames and look like a nerd for {1 week, several months} |
| 20:44.24 | goozbach | elg: use tape |
| 20:44.34 | goozbach | for the nerd look |
| 20:45.07 | elg | get glasses from a cheaper place using the prescription (they happily gave it to me), or save up a month or two and go chic |
| 20:45.38 | elg | tape? what kind of tape? I don't see how tape would work |
| 20:45.57 | goozbach | well it depends on where the break is |
| 20:46.08 | goozbach | althletic (cotton) tape works well |
| 20:47.39 | Sargun | stayed at an awesome hotel last year. 6 rooms, 3 stories was our house. |
| 20:48.05 | Sargun | At least 6 rooms. |
| 20:49.03 | elg | http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/photo.php?pid=1091919&id=1218347315&ref=nf |
| 20:54.33 | synic | eggyknap: ping |
| 20:54.38 | eggyknap | synic: pong |
| 21:00.37 | sjansen | "You must log in to see this page." |
| 21:05.54 | Sargun | elg, Are you required to use facebook? |
| 21:06.17 | Sargun | I've heard scary things about the culture @ facebook |
| 21:07.11 | elg | required to use facebook? |
| 21:07.29 | elg | you work at an isp. are you required to use the internet? |
| 21:07.52 | elg | sorry, i posted the wrong ulr |
| 21:07.53 | elg | http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=1091919&l=afd461b72c&id=1218347315 |
| 21:07.54 | elg | url even |
| 21:08.05 | elg | that one sould be public |
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| 21:13.19 | goozbach | you can still use tape |
| 21:13.31 | goozbach | tear a small strip and tape around the lens |
| 21:17.57 | Sargun | beats the crap out of this thing |
| 21:32.15 | elg | ~rlart |
| 21:32.16 | ibot | moos at fadein |
| 21:32.26 | elg | fades fadein out |
| 22:01.32 | elg | anyone ever play one of those gaming-console-in-a-joystick things? |
| 22:02.25 | stderr | like the X-Arcade? |
| 22:02.37 | goozbach | elg: once, but they had a crappy collection |
| 22:02.42 | stderr | I think that's what it's called |
| 22:02.52 | goozbach | just find a torrent of roms and download an emulator |
| 22:03.04 | stderr | Meh, my gf has the original Atari and a SNES. |
| 22:03.35 | elg | yeah, but to plug into the tv |
| 22:03.37 | elg | self-contained |
| 22:03.41 | elg | idiot-proof |
| 22:03.44 | elg | aka 4-year-old proof |
| 22:04.21 | elg | if you know of an emulator that actually works and for which there are ROMS of a few basic popular games, that works too |
| 22:04.32 | stderr | elg: sure |
| 22:04.33 | elg | all the emulators I've tried are notoriously buggy |
| 22:04.54 | stderr | what type of emulator would you prefer? |
| 22:05.04 | stderr | snes9x works fine on my mac |
| 22:05.19 | elg | snes probably. would have to be linux |
| 22:05.26 | stderr | snes9x works on Linux |
| 22:05.31 | stderr | and I get my ROMs from: http://www.coolrom.com/ |
| 22:05.32 | brac | [CoolROM.com - ROMs and Emulators - SNES ROMs NES ROMs N64 ROMs MAME ROMs GBA ROMs NDS ROMs] |
| 22:09.08 | elg | i'll have to try out snes9x, thx |
| 22:09.18 | stderr | np |
| 22:10.02 | stderr | I still need to get my media box setup in my new place, but once I do I plan on buying some SNES usb controller. |
| 22:10.06 | stderr | controllers* |
| 22:13.31 | goozbach | zsnes is really nice |
| 22:13.41 | goozbach | that's what I use |
| 22:13.48 | goozbach | works like a champ with my ps3 controllers |
| 22:17.30 | stderr | goozbach: you running it on the PS3? |
| 22:17.53 | goozbach | stderr: nope my fedora 11 laptop |
| 22:18.05 | stderr | ah |
| 22:18.05 | goozbach | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:18.24 | stderr | what SNES games do you favor? |
| 22:21.15 | goozbach | I've bee playing through Zelda and Super mario bros all stars |
| 22:23.36 | stderr | ah nice |
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| 23:19.23 | bonez46 | elg.. do you run quickbooks on your mac? I am trying to help my wife.. convert over to her mac from her win laptop.. and wondering if she needs to get quickbooks for mac or if some other app is BETTER |
| 23:20.16 | elg | I don't know if another app is better, I have only used gnucash (and old old apps way back in the day for win95 like moneymaker and early versions of quicken) |
| 23:20.30 | elg | gnucash on mac isn't a picnic. at least, hasn't been for me |
| 23:20.35 | elg | but I use it over NX on a linux box |
| 23:22.45 | blendmaster1024 | uh-oh |
| 23:22.54 | blendmaster1024 | i think my presentation got accepted |
| 23:23.06 | blendmaster1024 | dang, now i've got to get it ready |
| 23:23.13 | blendmaster1024 | :) |
| 23:24.47 | bonez46 | elg: that 'over NX on a linux box' part is what I am curious about.. you don't have a write up about that on your web site, do you? |
| 23:25.47 | elg | don't think so, but there's nothing special. install NX on your linux box (nomachine.com), install the NX client on your mac (nomachine.com) |
| 23:37.27 | tensai | I've been satisfied with gnucash. I used quicken once a long time ago and it was fine too. I can see that gnucash is designed with a lot more power (double entry) which I don't claim to quite grok. |
| 23:37.43 | tensai | but I missed the first part of the conversation so I actually have no idea what the question was |
| 23:37.56 | tensai | anyway, I like cheesecake? anybody have one for me? |
| 23:38.04 | tensai | s/ke?/ke./ |
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| 23:40.30 | elg | gnucash is flexible, powerful, free, and sucks rocks |
| 23:40.30 | elg | that's why I use it |
| 23:40.45 | stderr | <3 Mint |
| 23:41.41 | elg | what's mint? |
| 23:41.53 | elg | or are you just getting a little too close with your altoids? |
| 23:43.38 | blendmaster1024 | heh |
| 23:46.31 | tensai | my wife took over our finances after I proved less capable |
| 23:47.05 | fungus | oops |
| 23:59.40 | unum | anyone know about any problems with veracity or utopia? |