| 00:35.31 | eightyeight | sockets vs streams. go! |
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| 03:19.09 | rsimpkins | I feel less geeky. I should know the answer. Does our solar system have a name? |
| 03:20.14 | blendmaster1024 | let me google it for you |
| 03:22.35 | blendmaster1024 | it would seem that it doesn't. google comes up with wrong info ever so often though |
| 03:22.43 | blendmaster1024 | i googled "solar system name" |
| 03:23.15 | levi | rsimpkins: "The Solar System" |
| 03:23.16 | rsimpkins | But most other solar systems I know have a name. So the name is Solar System? We live in a solar system called Solar System? |
| 03:23.24 | levi | rsimpkins: Our star is 'Sol' |
| 03:24.27 | levi | eightyeight: What do you mean, 'sockets vs streams'? |
| 03:30.17 | blendmaster1024 | what are you referencing levi? |
| 03:30.37 | blendmaster1024 | eightyeight didn't say anything here |
| 03:31.05 | blendmaster1024 | that, or i missed it |
| 03:35.38 | levi | blendmaster1024: You missed it. |
| 03:36.03 | blendmaster1024 | aw |
| 03:36.05 | blendmaster1024 | dang inet |
| 03:36.15 | levi | He just said 'sockets vs streams. go!' |
| 03:45.40 | eightyeight | on unix-like systems. i know an individual who vows that linux using sockets is a horrible mistake |
| 03:46.22 | eightyeight | he's a solaris fanboy, and apparentyl, solaris uses streams exclusively |
| 03:50.15 | blendmaster1024 | define "stream" - last time i checked, streams use sockets |
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| 04:38.50 | eightyeight | blendmaster1024: a 'stream' is defined as a preconfigured i/o system that utilizes stdout, stdin and stderr |
| 04:39.03 | blendmaster1024 | oh |
| 04:39.36 | eightyeight | a unix 'socket' as i understand it, is a domain socket, for inter-process communication, similar to ipc sockets |
| 04:39.44 | blendmaster1024 | hmm that is quite different than a socket |
| 04:40.06 | blendmaster1024 | and a socket can also be a tcp/ip connection to the outside network |
| 04:40.15 | eightyeight | right |
| 04:40.24 | eightyeight | although it doesn't use a network protocol |
| 04:40.44 | blendmaster1024 | as in http or ftp or shh etc? |
| 04:40.50 | eightyeight | right |
| 04:41.22 | eightyeight | apparently, according to this individual, unix-like systems should be using streams for interprocess communications rather than sockets |
| 04:41.39 | blendmaster1024 | whatever |
| 04:41.57 | eightyeight | all i've heard so far, is that "streams are faster" and this is why solaris wins, and linux sucks |
| 04:42.01 | blendmaster1024 | use whatever is easier/faster depending on your need |
| 04:42.08 | eightyeight | i guess solaris uses streams, although i haven't personally verified |
| 04:43.27 | eightyeight | anyway, i was curious on this channel's opinion re: streams vs sockets |
| 04:45.23 | eightyeight | actually, i wonder if this is the "streams" he's referring to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streams_(networking_API) |
| 04:45.44 | eightyeight | that would make more sense to me. apples to apples with unix domain sockets |
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| 05:02.02 | levi | eightyeight: Well, I'd never thought to use STREAMS before, because apparently the only modern OS you might consider it would be Solaris. |
| 05:02.52 | levi | I would say sockets, because they're portable, and I can't imagine the speed difference would amount to a pile of beans. |
| 05:03.23 | levi | Looking over the docs for streams makes them sound kind of interesting, though. |
| 05:04.23 | levi | But really, Solaris wins over Linux in lots of ways that don't really end up making much of a difference. |
| 05:05.27 | levi | Linux wins over Solaris in ways that appear to matter to more people, and so there you go. |
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| 05:05.58 | eightyeight | heh |
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