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| 16:24.23 | rsimpkins | ls |
| 16:24.30 | rsimpkins | where is my directory listing? |
| 16:24.33 | rsimpkins | w |
| 16:24.37 | rsimpkins | exit |
| 16:24.47 | rsimpkins | ;-) |
| 16:24.51 | TehLaser | hads rsimpkins a / |
| 16:24.55 | TehLaser | er, *hands |
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| 16:36.06 | findlay | ibot: hello |
| 16:36.07 | ibot | Howdy Bub |
| 16:38.10 | tensai | ~herlo++ |
| 16:38.16 | findlay | I remember that in the glory days of #utah you could count on at least 5 good political/emacs debates every day |
| 16:38.38 | harleypig | obama uses emacs |
| 16:39.15 | tensai | "emacs or vi" is one of the death panel questions |
| 16:47.04 | fungus | Obama is so good, he doesn't need an editor, he even poos gold |
| 16:53.22 | unum | he uses a butterfly |
| 16:54.00 | harleypig | http://pictureisunrelated.com/2009/08/19/wtf-nice-day-for-job-and-dominatrix-hunting-wouldnt-you-say/ |
| 16:54.03 | harleypig | ummm .... |
| 17:00.39 | findlay | 9L{{KDl55m+_Q^+&=@vfo[Q]_*M |
| 17:01.04 | findlay | hm, well, oops, that *could* have been my password |
| 17:04.58 | harleypig | looks like it might be perl |
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| 17:23.05 | tensai | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8206280.stm |
| 17:23.07 | brac | [BBC NEWS | Science & Environment | Science ponders 'zombie attack'] |
| 17:24.02 | Migs | Glad that researchers are getting paid millions of dollars for important research like that, tensai |
| 17:33.30 | Migs | http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=7580362 |
| 17:33.30 | brac | [ksl.com - 2 men arrested following separate game incidents] |
| 17:33.34 | Migs | According to the Salt Lake Tribune, police say King was playing "Dungeons and Dragons" with two friends -- Logan Bryson and Daniel Shokrian -- at Shokrian's home on May 30. Investigators claim King left, returned in the middle of the night with a hammer and attacked both friends. Shokrian lost his ability to read and write. |
| 17:33.56 | Migs | At least it wasn't a Hammer +1. He might've ended up blind, too. |
| 17:34.00 | Migs | ZING! |
| 17:36.37 | Jayce^ | yeah, PA based today's comic off that |
| 17:37.34 | Migs | oh |
| 17:37.37 | Migs | what's PA? |
| 17:37.46 | Migs | oh, PennyArcade |
| 17:38.02 | maquis | yeah |
| 17:38.12 | maquis | i initially thought pennsylvania, then connected to penny arcade |
| 17:39.12 | Migs | I hate it when people steal my jokes |
| 17:39.16 | Migs | before I even make them, no less |
| 17:42.06 | tensai | "their analysis revealed that a strategy of capturing or curing the zombies would only put off the inevitable" |
| 17:42.12 | tensai | so remember kids, no mercy for zombies. even if it's your undead mother. |
| 17:46.46 | maquis | yeah |
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| 17:55.33 | *** topic/#utah by sjansen -> http://utos.org/irc | Log @ http://ibot.rikers.org/#utah | UTOSC 2009 Registration is open - http://sn.im/utos-reg | UTOSC Call for Papers ends Aug 27 | Have you seen _why? |
| 18:04.30 | sjansen | Why, _why? Why?! |
| 18:27.11 | harleypig | Hey! I got *TWO* fortunes in my cookie! Cool. |
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| 18:32.47 | TehLaser | harleypig: heh, my wife had that happen to her while she was pregnant. |
| 18:32.55 | harleypig | Why would someone deliberately make their name end in a question mark? |
| 18:33.10 | harleypig | TehLaser: Did you have twins? :> |
| 18:33.27 | TehLaser | harleypig: no, one for her and one for the baby of course. |
| 18:33.36 | harleypig | Ah. |
| 18:34.18 | TehLaser | If I remember correctly, this was our celebratory dinner for the pregnancy too. |
| 18:35.15 | harleypig | "My understanding of zombie biology is that if you manage to decapitate a zombie then it's dead forever. So perhaps they are being a little over-pessimistic when they conclude that zombies might take over a city in three or four days." |
| 18:35.29 | harleypig | re: tensai's llink |
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| 18:44.39 | sjansen | http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2009/08/new-super-mario-bros-wii-trailer-shows-off-new-suits.ars |
| 18:44.41 | brac | [New Super Mario Bros. Wii trailer shows off new suits - Ars Technica] |
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| 18:47.39 | sjansen | Nice to see Nintendo staying true to the original Super Mario spirit, while tastefully taking advantage of modern hardware. |
| 18:50.02 | elg | sjansen: did _why do something interesting? |
| 18:50.29 | sjansen | He has completely disappeared from the Net. |
| 18:50.39 | harleypig | why? |
| 18:50.48 | sjansen | His twitter account was deactivated. All of his domains are unresponsive. |
| 18:51.00 | harleypig | why? |
| 18:51.08 | elg | that is sad |
| 18:51.13 | sjansen | harleypig: Exactly. |
| 18:51.21 | elg | so the poignant guide is gone? |
| 18:51.39 | sjansen | Not counting personal backups. |
| 18:51.43 | elg | he was the lucky stiff. maybe now he's an unlucky stiff |
| 18:51.45 | harleypig | maybe he got caught up in a raid |
| 18:52.13 | sjansen | http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=773106 |
| 18:58.12 | mrpull | SMB Wii looks AWESOME |
| 19:06.10 | harleypig | http://roflrazzi.com/2009/08/08/celebrity-pictures-andres-buscemi-sex-tapes/ |
| 19:10.48 | Jayce^ | mrpull: agreed |
| 19:10.59 | Jayce^ | multiplayer :) |
| 19:11.54 | findlay | mario cart is pretty fun |
| 19:13.28 | mrpull | Punchout!! has been my favorite remake. |
| 19:14.08 | mrpull | heaps of nostalgia with a little more depth and challenge sprinkled on |
| 19:18.37 | Jayce^ | I tried it with the balance board for a round... that was it |
| 19:18.45 | Jayce^ | much more fun without that :) |
| 19:52.00 | mrpull | speaking of mario kart: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuX5_OWObA0 |
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| 20:53.23 | tensai | so my laptop has an external display port and I'm wondering if it's possible to set it up as a second display, or if it's strictly for mirroring the built-in display |
| 20:53.24 | tensai | anybody know? |
| 20:53.39 | TehLaser | My laptop can do both. |
| 20:54.28 | TehLaser | Though it's possible yours is mirror-only. |
| 20:55.53 | TehLaser | On mine I had to disable gl, edit xorg.conf to make an extended addressable area (forgetting the name of this), and use xrandr to turn it all on. |
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| 20:56.49 | tensai | TehLaser: thanks for the pointers. nice to know it *might* be possible. |
| 20:56.51 | TehLaser | (actually, it's that second that was problematic... my graphics card couldn't handle 3d with an addressable area wider that 2K pixels) |
| 20:57.22 | TehLaser | If I'd put the external monitor "above" the built-in display it ought to have worked in 3d. Never tried that though. |
| 21:00.05 | TehLaser | Looked up the name... it was in Section "Screen" SubSection "Display" as 'Virtual' |
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| 22:11.42 | unum | http://bash.org/?897655 |
| 22:11.43 | brac | [QDB: Quote #897655] |
| 22:31.09 | elg__ | :-) |
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| 22:50.00 | decriptor | to centos experts :), what's the best way to revert from php5 to php4 on centos4? Is there a repo for centos 4 that has php4 |
| 22:52.57 | decriptor | I guess its still php4 in the centos update repo... so they had to have added something special to get php5 on centos 4 |
| 22:53.13 | JoshH | why would you want to do such a horrible thing? |
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| 22:54.55 | maquis | JoshH: maybe temporarily while upgrading scripts that for some reason aren't compatible with php5? |
| 22:55.04 | maquis | that's my guess as to why decriptor might want to do that |
| 22:55.26 | JoshH | if that's the case, the proper answer is to quit your job on the spot |
| 22:55.52 | decriptor | JoshH: they haven't ported their app to 5 yet |
| 22:55.56 | decriptor | not sure what's up with that |
| 22:56.22 | decriptor | JoshH: this is a favor for another company |
| 22:56.57 | decriptor | what's really lame is that the VPS is still running centos 4 and not 5 and that the hosting company went in and updated php without telling them |
| 22:57.35 | maquis | decriptor: so, it's still running cent4? |
| 22:58.32 | decriptor | yeah |
| 22:58.59 | maquis | hmmm... |
| 22:59.23 | maquis | i'm not a cent expert, but... i'd suggest that their hosting company ought to be responsible for fixing the problem |
| 22:59.27 | maquis | they caused the problem |
| 22:59.35 | decriptor | right |
| 23:00.16 | decriptor | it might take longer to convince them to do that than for me to go in and update to php4 with the centos 4 update repo (removing the php5 repo too) |
| 23:01.02 | decriptor | I'm still somewhat baffled that the hosting company went in and updated their software, makes me wonder if its really a VPS. They do have root access |
| 23:02.02 | maquis | in "They do have root access", who is the "they" you're referring to? |
| 23:02.12 | elg | the enemy |
| 23:02.23 | elg | the illuminati |
| 23:02.24 | elg | the borg |
| 23:02.29 | elg | the cardassians |
| 23:02.31 | maquis | the hosting company shouldn't have rights to update software on a VPS, i would expect |
| 23:02.47 | maquis | or at least shouldn't do it |
| 23:03.17 | decriptor | maquis: they being the customer |
| 23:03.29 | maquis | are you sure there's not a cron or anything to update certain packages on a regular basis? and nobody at the company you're working with accidentally did it? |
| 23:04.01 | decriptor | maquis: I plan on poking around to get a better idea |
| 23:04.19 | maquis | i can totally imagine someone setting up a cron to automatically pick up updates to certain packages in order to not miss security updates or something |
| 23:04.37 | maquis | it scares me, but i can totally see why that would happen |
| 23:04.50 | JoshH | a lot of hosting companies would rather drop you as a customer than let you go back to php4 |
| 23:05.00 | JoshH | i'd assume if they upgraded without telling you, they might be one of those |
| 23:05.10 | maquis | JoshH: but if it's a VPS, why would they care? |
| 23:05.19 | JoshH | if it's a vps, that's different |
| 23:05.24 | decriptor | maquis: these guys aren't linux admins by any means |
| 23:05.39 | JoshH | but i'd be willing to bet they have been sending "ok, we are going to upgrade on this deadline, this is the last warning" emails for quite some time |
| 23:05.44 | JoshH | and someone probably didn't get or read them |
| 23:05.46 | maquis | if it's a vps, i can see them sending you a notice saying "hey, btw, you're out of date. if you get hacked (or whatever), it's not our fault" |
| 23:05.52 | decriptor | JoshH: its supposedly a VPS |
| 23:06.05 | JoshH | if you have root, probably |
| 23:06.17 | JoshH | hopefully, anyway |
| 23:06.18 | maquis | decriptor: sure... i can tell that much :P but that doesn't mean that nobody has set up something to update, or accidentally updated |
| 23:06.32 | decriptor | maquis: true |
| 23:06.44 | maquis | (accidental updating sounds completely possible... and very frightening) |
| 23:10.29 | sjansen | accidentally updating is a bit of a stretch, I don't think C4 includes PHP5 as an update |
| 23:11.40 | maquis | then that means someone must've intentionally changed it... and if these guys didn't intentionally do it, and aren't particularly skilled, that means someone else must've done it for them, right? |
| 23:13.12 | JoshH | at this point, i think the solution is to tell the company that your grandma died and that you have to go, and completely sever all ties with them |
| 23:15.08 | tensai | TehLaser: I got it working. not quite sure yet if I'll leave it or not. the refresh rate on my monitor is too low (old piece of junk). |
| 23:20.19 | decriptor | maquis: so looking at it, it looks like they might have just changed out the repos for centos 5 |
| 23:20.29 | decriptor | kind of afraid to touch it :( |
| 23:20.57 | decriptor | cat /etc/redhat-release |
| 23:20.57 | decriptor | CentOS release 5.2 (Final) |
| 23:21.26 | decriptor | that was awfully nice of them :) |
| 23:36.19 | sjansen | Changing the repo is very much not a supported upgrade path from 4 -> 5. |
| 23:45.42 | maquis | ipes |
| 23:45.58 | maquis | i didn't think any of the redhats could be upgraded that way |
| 23:46.21 | maquis | they don't have anything equivalent to apt-get dist-upgrade, do they? |
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