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| 00:04.17 | bonez46 | is it possible, i.e, any tools available to copy a file where just normal options fail? it's a file, ca. 65 mb on a cd.. that I really need to get off this disc.. and salvage if I can.. |
| 00:04.19 | bonez46 | ?? |
| 00:09.43 | maquis | how are normal options failing? |
| 00:09.45 | maquis | why are they failing? |
| 00:13.03 | maquis | i would try something that does a bit-by-bit copy (dd does that, iirc)... but depending on the failures you're getting, there's a good chance that that won't fix your problem |
| 00:13.11 | maquis | also, it might be good to know the nature of the file |
| 00:13.25 | maquis | and what data you need from it |
| 00:13.45 | maquis | if it's mostly text-based, or stores text inside of it, maybe something like strings would help? |
| 00:13.49 | maquis | etc |
| 00:14.35 | maquis | from the info that's been given, the best i've got is "dd the cd into an iso, then work from there", but it's dependent on the problem |
| 00:14.56 | maquis | if it's a problem with a scratched disk, i'd try buffing it with one of those cd-repair thingamajiggers.. |
| 00:36.40 | Sargun_Screen | wonders why the network configuration of CentOS/Debian/Ubuntu are stuck in such 1995-like configurations, whereas gentoo has "modern" features like CIDR, etc.. |
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| 14:32.17 | tristanbob__ | fyi - java.com is now oracle red |
| 14:32.21 | tristanbob__ | yuck |
| 14:32.34 | tristanbob__ | no more blue java |
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| 14:53.44 | elg | ~rlart |
| 14:53.45 | ibot | hits romanovic with an anvil and laughs with a contralto voice ... Haha Ha HA Ha |
| 14:59.13 | tensai | dpkg --purge elg |
| 15:02.50 | Sargun_Screen | Why did you purge elg? |
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| 15:06.26 | goozbach | hanging elg configs |
| 15:06.32 | goozbach | screwing up hans v2 |
| 15:06.36 | goozbach | :) |
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| 15:21.11 | romanovic | is so frequently rlarted by ibot |
| 15:21.38 | goozbach | romanovic: other than that you're never mentioned, right? |
| 15:21.49 | romanovic | for the most part |
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| 15:51.00 | tensai | stupid subpoenas. what a pain in the butt. |
| 15:52.30 | elg | you're summoned? |
| 15:52.44 | sjansen | tensai: That's what you get for hanging out with coke dealers. |
| 15:53.06 | sjansen | Just imagine what a hassle it'll be when your friends start a gang war with the pepsi dealers. |
| 15:53.36 | elg | i think i might write an itunes shoutcast plugin |
| 15:53.38 | elg | today |
| 15:55.24 | sjansen | An iTunes Shoutcast plugin that twitters your current song so that everyone in your Facebook friends list can synchronize their playlist with yours? |
| 15:56.17 | elg | i was thinking more one that would pm you in irc |
| 15:56.50 | levi | http://theimpossiblecool.tumblr.com |
| 15:56.59 | goozbach | a plugin which pm's sjansen? where do I sign up? |
| 15:59.15 | sjansen | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2009/08/13/funny-pictures-theyll-leave-you-alone/ |
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| 16:47.25 | RyanE | a plugin that PMs sjansen LOLCats? |
| 16:51.52 | elg | no you're confusing it with the atoponce one |
| 16:52.41 | goozbach | atoponce would be a better target for a script like that |
| 16:52.57 | unum | yes he would be |
| 16:54.46 | RyanE | does he have an irrational fear of LOLCats? |
| 16:56.41 | unum | I think he's a cat hater |
| 16:56.46 | unum | stupid dog people :) |
| 17:07.24 | thesuperbigfrog | wow, cat haters are organized: http://www.chowmember.com/ |
| 17:08.30 | elg | hm, the shirts on the front page are just small enough that you can't see them |
| 17:08.52 | elg | you feel obliged to believe they're funny, but not intrigued enough to click through the maze to find closeups |
| 17:27.43 | levi | Wow, Les Paul died. :( |
| 17:32.05 | levi | And static parsing of Perl 5 is equivalent to the halting problem, and is thus not computable. |
| 18:08.15 | sjansen | http://news.slashdot.org/story/09/08/13/1450220/Open-Textbooks-Win-Over-Publishers-In-CA |
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| 19:27.42 | Sargun | See, we Californians aren't completely nuts |
| 19:31.39 | eightyeight | cats suck |
| 19:31.59 | eightyeight | lol sucks |
| 19:32.04 | eightyeight | so, lolcats really suck |
| 19:32.32 | unum | it will be interesting to see if the legislature lets them use those |
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| 19:35.06 | eightyeight | btw- i resent being the brunt of random acts of digital violence |
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| 19:35.37 | unum | ~rlart |
| 19:35.38 | ibot | dumps 42 tons of dirt, manure, and fish heads on eco |
| 19:35.43 | unum | well it was worth a shot |
| 19:35.49 | sjansen | ~lart eightyeight |
| 19:35.49 | ibot | beats eightyeight over the head with a microkernel |
| 19:36.07 | sjansen | ~attack eightyeight |
| 19:36.08 | ibot | ACTION grabs a pen, screams like she's possessed, and begins chasing eightyeight |
| 19:36.08 | unum | where did he find one of those? |
| 19:36.12 | eightyeight | ~monkey sjansen |
| 19:36.12 | ibot | ACTION flings poo at sjansen |
| 19:36.31 | eightyeight | ~zelut sjansen |
| 19:36.32 | ibot | ACTION preaches to sjansen from the book of Zelut. If sjansen doesn't get it, sjansen is beaten repeatedly over the head with a rubber chicken |
| 19:36.40 | sjansen | ~defend sjansen |
| 19:36.41 | ibot | ACTION jumps in front of sjansen, taking all insults, violence and anything else negative thrown toward sjansen so that sjansen may live on in peace and quiet |
| 19:36.55 | sjansen | ~abuse eightyeight |
| 19:36.56 | ibot | ACTION smacks eightyeight across the face. "Take that, sucker!" |
| 19:37.01 | eightyeight | -shoot ibot |
| 19:37.15 | eightyeight | ~botsnack |
| 19:37.15 | ibot | eightyeight: thanks |
| 19:37.57 | eightyeight | ~karma eightyeight |
| 19:37.57 | ibot | eightyeight has neutral karma |
| 19:38.01 | eightyeight | ~karma sjansen |
| 19:38.01 | ibot | sjansen has karma of 9 |
| 19:38.05 | eightyeight | meh |
| 19:38.08 | maquis | ~karma maquis |
| 19:38.08 | ibot | maquis has neutral karma |
| 19:38.12 | maquis | :( |
| 19:38.25 | eightyeight | steals sjansen's karma |
| 19:38.40 | sjansen | Wha? How'd that happen? |
| 19:38.46 | sjansen | ~gloat |
| 19:38.56 | sjansen | ~sjansen |
| 19:38.57 | ibot | sjansen is one hoopy frood who really knows where his towel is |
| 19:39.02 | sjansen | Straight up! |
| 19:39.26 | goozbach | ~eightyeight |
| 19:39.32 | eightyeight | ~define 'hoopy frood' |
| 19:39.33 | ibot | Use ~dict for definitions. |
| 19:39.35 | goozbach | ~goozbach |
| 19:39.36 | ibot | methinks goozbach is a future que-ball. easier to catch than a retarted sasquatch |
| 19:39.45 | eightyeight | heh |
| 19:39.50 | goozbach | ~dict 'hoopy frood' |
| 19:40.11 | unum | ~douglas adams |
| 19:40.12 | ibot | douglas adams is, like, cool. dining at the Restaurant at the End of the Universe. So long, Douglas, and thanks for all the fish.. Ask me about 42 |
| 19:40.21 | goozbach | ~42? |
| 19:40.21 | ibot | [42] the answer to life the universe and everything, see also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/the_answer_to_life,_the_universe,_and_everything |
| 19:40.41 | unum | ~towel |
| 19:40.43 | ibot | ACTION wipes off unum with a towel. |
| 19:41.01 | eightyeight | ~unum |
| 19:41.01 | ibot | [unum] 70.89.247.221 |
| 19:41.14 | unum | interesting |
| 19:44.20 | eightyeight | apparently, we have bugs in our datacenter |
| 19:45.52 | eightyeight | lots of pill bugs under the tiles and along one wall |
| 19:47.06 | Zelut | gross |
| 19:47.59 | maquis | pill bugs aren't that gross... |
| 19:48.05 | maquis | there's plenty of grosser bugs |
| 19:48.51 | eightyeight | i don't know why they're coming in. it's dry as a bone in here |
| 19:49.02 | goozbach | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:49.07 | eightyeight | don't know where either, but we have an exterminator coming |
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| 19:51.08 | sjansen | ~exterminate eightyeight |
| 19:51.09 | ibot | ACTION zaps eightyeight with a low-budget lazer beam effect, then continues roving about every which way, while shouting "exterminate! exterminate!" with a rasping staccato voice |
| 19:51.20 | eightyeight | i thought pill bugs preferred dark and damp, not necessarily cold |
| 19:57.28 | maquis | they like damp soil a lot, although i've seen them a good bit in pretty dry soil as well |
| 19:57.36 | maquis | they're pretty fun, though, if you get them to roll up |
| 19:58.15 | maquis | i introduced my cousins' kids to pill bugs, and they thought they were pretty fun (their parents weren't quite as excited, but hey... it was an educational experience) |
| 19:58.25 | eightyeight | heh |
| 19:58.34 | eightyeight | my daughter loves them. "buggies!" |
| 19:58.53 | eightyeight | she'll hold her hand still while they walk around. she's so curious about them |
| 19:59.19 | maquis | good :) |
| 19:59.39 | maquis | long as you encourage that type of reaction, it'll be good |
| 20:00.00 | maquis | my dad introduced me to snakes, pill bugs, lizards, frogs, dragonflies, and lots of other similar types of things |
| 20:00.05 | maquis | my mom introduced me to flies and bees |
| 20:00.09 | eightyeight | yeah. no worries there |
| 20:00.26 | maquis | when i was like 6, i was scared to death of flies and bees, but would pick up any snake, frog, lizard, etc., that was nearby |
| 20:00.36 | eightyeight | we're outdoor enthusiasts. we investigate every creepy crawly thing on the trail |
| 20:00.58 | maquis | (we don't have any poisonous snakes around here, so there was no need to warn me about bad snakes at that age) |
| 20:01.31 | eightyeight | yeah. we've come across some garter snakes from time to time. that's it for snakes so far |
| 20:01.49 | eightyeight | wait. no, we saw a gopher snake once too. he was less friendly. :) |
| 20:01.52 | JoshH | i saw a rattlesnake on the bonneville shoreline trail by the U last summer |
| 20:01.54 | maquis | even now, i don't like flies or bees, but i've (intentionally) held a cockroach in my hand for > 10 minutes... |
| 20:01.57 | JoshH | it was about 5 feet from me |
| 20:02.21 | maquis | JoshH: cool |
| 20:02.36 | JoshH | only one i've seen in the wild, in all my outdoor adventures |
| 20:02.51 | toofer | I ran over a snake on my bike near Bridal Veil earlier this week |
| 20:02.53 | eightyeight | haven't encountered a rattler yet. but with the amount of hiking we do, i'm sure we will soon |
| 20:02.57 | JoshH | but i've seen several black bears in the wild, most people haven't seen any |
| 20:03.09 | levi | toofer: On the BST? |
| 20:03.26 | levi | toofer: We about stepped on one up there last Saturday. |
| 20:03.46 | toofer | Levi: Near the head of it where it starts to climb from Bridal Veil to Squaw Peak. |
| 20:04.09 | toofer | levi: it was on the bike path near the river. |
| 20:04.32 | levi | The one I ran across was a bit up the trail, maybe a mile. |
| 20:04.38 | toofer | ah |
| 20:04.43 | JoshH | i've never seen a cougar while hiking, but my dad did once |
| 20:05.06 | levi | It saw us and slithered off the path, but stayed really still about a foot into the brush. |
| 20:05.12 | eightyeight | when i was a scout, we encountered a cougar at night |
| 20:05.27 | levi | It rattled when I passed it, and my wife wouldn't go on, so we had to turn around. |
| 20:05.49 | eightyeight | we we're around a camp fire, so we stayed on the other side of the fire, and it went its way without bothering us |
| 20:05.58 | eightyeight | none of us slept well that night though |
| 20:06.49 | levi | elg: Dude, facebook chat is busted. You should fix that. ;) |
| 20:07.43 | eightyeight | what about just fixing facebook? |
| 20:08.01 | levi | What else is broken? |
| 20:08.20 | eightyeight | people |
| 20:09.07 | eightyeight | "take this quiz!" "join this group" "add this application which needs access to your friends, photos, personal info, etc" |
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| 20:09.36 | levi | I just ignore all that stuff. |
| 20:09.46 | eightyeight | still annoying to see it on the wall though |
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| 20:13.09 | levi | If people couldn't fill their space with that crap, they would fill it with even more inane crap they generated themselves. ;) |
| 20:13.43 | eightyeight | so, there needs to be a magic button that wipes all that noise off facebook |
| 20:13.47 | eightyeight | that's what elg should work on. :) |
| 20:14.59 | levi | Whenever people are allowed to communicate freely, the vast majority of their communication will be totally banal stuff, but that's the way the human social system is greased. |
| 20:15.21 | eightyeight | of course |
| 20:15.36 | eightyeight | irc just wouldn't be the same! |
| 20:15.52 | Migs | http://hannahmontana.sourceforge.net/ |
| 20:16.00 | eightyeight | not that again |
| 20:16.06 | levi | Have you been to non-technical-oriented IRC servers? |
| 20:16.36 | eightyeight | yes. back in the days when everyone was on bbs, i was on irc. mirc was the app of apps |
| 20:18.05 | levi | Average conversation of freenode looks like lofty well-mannered discourse compared to average IRC conversation. |
| 20:18.37 | eightyeight | i've been on undernet, efnet, ircnet, tons and tons of small irc servers dedicated primarily to piracy (back when napster and usenet was cool) |
| 20:19.16 | eightyeight | now, it's just freenode and oftc mainly. dnet is still in my /server list, but i haven't joined any channels for a while |
| 20:19.23 | sjansen | levi: Your mama dresses you funny and you smell like poo. |
| 20:19.43 | JoshH | hay guyz join #olsentwins |
| 20:19.49 | eightyeight | exactly |
| 20:20.07 | eightyeight | JoshH: you forgot coloring every letter differently |
| 20:20.10 | levi | lololololol |
| 20:20.12 | sjansen | JoshH: So... lonely... |
| 20:20.21 | JoshH | sjansen: i meant to say on efnet |
| 20:20.38 | JoshH | (i'm not actually there) |
| 20:20.45 | elg | slaps sjansen with a slab of beef |
| 20:33.11 | sjansen | http://imgur.com/6V8ff.png |
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| 20:34.22 | toofer | That sounds like a bad ad for a 900 service |
| 20:34.24 | eightyeight | sjansen: that explains a lot, actually |
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| 21:04.47 | tensai | next up in my long struggle to find an amarok replacement: exaile. so far so good. |
| 21:05.24 | maquis | wishes xmms was still around... haven't had any luck with xmms2, but really liked the original xmms |
| 21:05.35 | eightyeight | xmms2 is horrid |
| 21:05.42 | tensai | bah, xmms |
| 21:05.51 | peno | the guy that develops exaile is a noob. |
| 21:05.54 | eightyeight | xmms isn't exactly up to par with todays sound standards either |
| 21:05.57 | elg | misses the somewhat-recent xmms website |
| 21:06.07 | tensai | maquis: audacious is an xmms copycat |
| 21:06.34 | maquis | tensai: i tried it, but there was something i didn't like as much about it... and i don't remember for the life of me what that was |
| 21:06.36 | eightyeight | i'd run exaile, if it supported last.fm. i use banshee as my default player |
| 21:06.37 | maquis | :) |
| 21:06.46 | tensai | maquis: that it was too much like xmms? :) |
| 21:06.52 | maquis | tensai: what does exaile depend on? |
| 21:07.03 | maquis | i've tried songbird, and that's... ok, but too big, and rather buggy |
| 21:07.15 | tensai | maquis: gnome, python, gstreamer |
| 21:07.16 | eightyeight | exaile is python-gtk |
| 21:07.27 | maquis | tensai: ah... gnome |
| 21:07.31 | maquis | yeah.. that one's out too |
| 21:07.41 | tensai | I guess it's gtk and not gnome |
| 21:07.47 | eightyeight | banshee is mono |
| 21:07.58 | eightyeight | solid player |
| 21:08.09 | maquis | hmmm... they all seem big |
| 21:09.13 | unum | that's what SHE said |
| 21:09.31 | eightyeight | ~lart unum |
| 21:09.31 | ibot | whacks unum with a giant beaver's tail |
| 21:09.31 | tensai | eightyeight: it was nice but it screwed with my mp3 player |
| 21:09.45 | unum | I deserved that |
| 21:09.49 | tensai | banshee, that is |
| 21:09.55 | eightyeight | tensai: how so? |
| 21:10.46 | tensai | eightyeight: it took control of it at the usb level, or so it seemed. if I fire up banshee while the player is mounted, it forcibly unmounts it without syncing, etc. |
| 21:10.58 | eightyeight | odd |
| 21:11.03 | tensai | and if banshee was already running the mp3 player wouldn't even mount |
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| 22:31.01 | levi | I think maquis needs a ram/hd upgrade. ;) |
| 22:32.09 | maquis | huh? |
| 22:32.16 | maquis | what'd i do? |
| 22:32.36 | levi | <maquis> hmmm... they all seem big |
| 22:32.52 | maquis | yeah... they take up the whole screen like itunes does... |
| 22:32.55 | maquis | and they're bloated |
| 22:33.12 | maquis | my current primary laptop is vista-ready, so ram/hd is fine |
| 22:33.26 | maquis | but... i like keeping stuff smaller |
| 22:33.32 | levi | Ahh, big as in screen size, not RAM/hd usage. |
| 22:33.50 | maquis | and the screen is 1024x768 on that laptop, so unless i keep it in a separate desktop, it's kind-of in the way |
| 22:34.17 | levi | Yeah, 1024x768 is rough these days. |
| 22:34.48 | maquis | yeah... but it's a nice smaller tablet laptop... |
| 22:34.56 | maquis | X61T |
| 22:36.27 | maquis | handed off my T42 to my husband, since he likes having a touchpad, and I took the X61T since I like the touchpoint (hate touchpads), and thought the tablet functionality was pretty cool |
| 22:52.21 | jlp_work | maquis: how do you like the tablet features? |
| 22:54.33 | maquis | jlp_work: so far, I haven't used them too much. it seems like it'd be useful whenever i get around to working on editing some of my photographs, though |
| 22:54.48 | maquis | i have used xournal a few times to see how it works, and that's nice |
| 22:55.02 | maquis | inkscape kinda sucks unless you've got a keyboard attached as well |
| 22:56.19 | jlp_work | yeah. I picked up an HP tx2500 last year and, while I haven't used the tablet functionality much, when you want it it is really handy |
| 22:56.20 | maquis | my biggest problem is, the most recent time i played with it, i had somehow lost some of my setup, so the auto-rotate was only working once, then failing after that point, and my manual-adjust script wasn't fixing the cursor correctly |
| 22:56.45 | maquis | so, i still have a bit of setup in order to get *everything* working correctly |
| 22:56.56 | jlp_work | I can send you my xrot script that works on my HP. it uses xrandr and some other stuff to rotate the screen and the wacom. |
| 22:57.12 | maquis | might be useful. |
| 22:57.23 | jlp_work | dcc? |
| 22:57.26 | maquis | i've got something set up using hdaps, but for some reason it had issues the last time i used it |
| 22:57.36 | maquis | how bout email... i'm not on that computer right now |
| 22:57.48 | jlp_work | ok |
| 22:57.49 | maquis | just pm'd the address :) |
| 22:57.53 | jlp_work | got it |
| 22:58.35 | maquis | the one thing i have to say is, we've got a ways to go still on making tablet functionality available to non-technical linux users |
| 22:58.39 | maquis | at least on debian... |
| 22:58.57 | maquis | but from the forums i was reading, lots of users were having problems on ubuntu as well |
| 22:59.13 | jlp_work | that's for sure. it took a lot of poking to get it to work consistently even on ubuntu jaunty |
| 22:59.18 | maquis | yeah |
| 22:59.31 | jlp_work | script should be in your e-mail |
| 22:59.37 | maquis | cool! thanks |
| 23:00.02 | jlp_work | I have used the tablet quite a bit with openoffice impress for making diagrams. also with the gimp a little. |
| 23:00.26 | jlp_work | I haven't really gotten into things like xournal since I can type a lot faster than I can write :-) |
| 23:00.54 | jlp_work | but I did use Microsoft OneNote when I was running vista on the machine, and man, that is some sexy software |
| 23:04.38 | maquis | yeah |
| 23:04.44 | maquis | we don't have quite as nice of software for tablets yet |
| 23:04.55 | maquis | i'm betting that as tablets gain momentum, we might get more |
| 23:05.40 | jlp_work | it's one of those things where once you start using it and get hooked, you really want it from then on, but before you start using it, you don't know why you would need it. kind of like TiVo. |
| 23:05.54 | maquis | yeah |
| 23:06.02 | maquis | my main use-case that i can think of is for things like gimp |
| 23:13.36 | jlp_work | true. someone needs to come out with an open source stroke -> text library that works well. then people need to integrate it into tools like basket, openoffice, tomboy notes, etc. |
| 23:13.55 | jlp_work | that's where onenote really wins... being able to search inked text |
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| 23:26.33 | stderr | anyone using the amazon-ecs gem? |
| 23:29.56 | maquis | ecs? whazzat? |
| 23:30.18 | maquis | jlp_work: there was one tool for handwriting-recognition that i found. |
| 23:30.25 | stderr | e-commerce gem for Ruby |
| 23:30.45 | maquis | stderr: interesting... |
| 23:30.45 | stderr | having a problem with the newest version that implements the new required signed request crap |
| 23:30.59 | maquis | is it released by amazon, or someone else? |
| 23:31.14 | stderr | someone else |
| 23:31.24 | maquis | ah |
| 23:31.32 | jlp_work | maquis: the only thing I've found that works semi-reliably is cellwriter, but it has to be trained and can't just be picked up by anyone and used. |
| 23:31.49 | maquis | jlp_work: i think that's the one i was using |
| 23:32.11 | maquis | my problem was that l 1 and | were all getting recognized exactly the same, and similar types of things |
| 23:32.35 | jlp_work | it works, but it's not quite where/what it needs to be. you can't write words and have it automatically recognize them like you can with windows |
| 23:32.44 | maquis | yeah |
| 23:32.51 | maquis | i've never seen the windows one |
| 23:32.58 | jlp_work | if it was linked into a dictionary somehow so it could do some context comparison, it would be really good, I think. |
| 23:33.11 | maquis | the thing that i can think which would be interesting to have something similar to would be the chinese input on the iphone. |
| 23:33.17 | maquis | yeah... dictionary would be good |
| 23:33.35 | maquis | for input in general, the iphone does pretty good for not having a physical keyboard |
| 23:34.18 | jlp_work | yeah? I've played with my son's iphone, but not enough to really get a feel for how well it works. |
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