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| 01:31.42 | Tene | bonez46: flash can steal keybaord shortcuts |
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| 03:28.37 | levi | Just got back from a campfire in the mountains. Campfires make hot dogs taste good! |
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| 03:41.49 | bonez46 | Tene: is there a way to make pages, including those running flash to behave better, and prevent such theft? |
| 03:44.02 | Tene | bonez46: the only solution I've seen so far is flashblock. |
| 03:44.17 | bonez46 | I love the mountains and camping.. everything except sleeping badly, but I think an air mattress will fix that.. on my next trip |
| 03:44.20 | Tene | Which is the equivalent of "Doctor it hurts when..." -- "Just don't do that." |
| 03:44.30 | bonez46 | so it's just something to be aware of.. |
| 03:44.31 | Tene | So, not a great solution, but it can help. |
| 03:44.33 | bonez46 | and to work around? |
| 03:44.36 | bonez46 | ok.. thanks.. |
| 03:44.59 | Tene | You can often get the keyboard focus to work again if you click on the background, the chrome, some text ,something that isn't flash. |
| 03:45.02 | Tene | But not always. |
| 03:45.46 | bonez46 | ah, but that involves clicking. and I will do almost anything to avoid having to move my fingers from the keyboard to that mouse |
| 03:45.52 | Tene | right. |
| 03:45.55 | Tene | exactly |
| 03:50.40 | bonez46 | do you archive chat conversations? if so, what's a good way to archive them all to go back to .. when needed? |
| 03:56.02 | Tene | They're just saved as text files |
| 03:56.15 | Tene | in directories sorted first by year and then by network |
| 03:56.18 | Tene | so it's like... |
| 03:56.56 | Tene | 2009/freenode/#utah.07-26.log |
| 03:57.10 | Tene | then I just use grep to find them as needed. |
| 04:02.25 | levi | bonez46: We've got a van that sleeps 4, so we don't have to worry about sleeping on the ground. :) |
| 04:11.34 | bonez46 | well, that's handy |
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| 16:52.32 | rsimpkins | I'll never understand why people do this. They download the entire scriptural reference (including mp3s) from lds.org. Many, many GB. Then they store it on their corporate NAS systems. |
| 16:52.51 | rsimpkins | There are multiple copies on this system I'm looking at, using up many many GBs. |
| 16:53.15 | JoshH | that does seem quite odd |
| 16:53.37 | rsimpkins | I think they justify it as 'okay' because it is religious - therefore it should be accepted. |
| 16:54.26 | rsimpkins | I wonder what would happen if I spread 95 copies of the handbook of the church of satan in random home directories. |
| 16:54.26 | thaddeusq | rsimpkins: If it were me, I'd blow it away and if somebody complains, tell them it's copyrighted material. |
| 16:54.31 | JoshH | that would be my assumption |
| 16:54.55 | rsimpkins | I'm sure I'd be fired for taking either approach. |
| 16:55.20 | JoshH | blow it away and say god must have made it disappear |
| 16:55.35 | thaddeusq | rsimpkins: You don't have a corporate policy that allows removal of items from the corporate NAS? |
| 16:56.16 | rsimpkins | thaddeusq: Sure, but the people who have copies of this are my bosses bosses bosses boss. |
| 16:56.31 | thaddeusq | Every corporation I've worked at (except maybe GuruLabs) had such a policy. |
| 16:56.39 | rsimpkins | I'm not so sure they'd be pleased if suddenly their work/religious experience was interrupted. |
| 16:58.02 | rsimpkins | My point is that it is 'okay' only because it represents the predominate faith. What if some person of an alternative faith wanted to do the same thing? |
| 16:58.25 | rsimpkins | I am all for fair, but in this case I think fair is toast. |
| 16:58.26 | thaddeusq | I don't believe it's as black and white as you make it sound. |
| 16:58.27 | JoshH | download the god delusion and keep it there |
| 16:58.36 | JoshH | and the origin of species |
| 16:59.01 | rsimpkins | thaddeusq: Perhaps it isn't. Enlighten me. |
| 16:59.05 | thaddeusq | the reason it's ok (at least from the sounds of it) is because they are the boss. |
| 16:59.18 | fungus | rsimpkins: don't make it about religion, make the exception based on corporate status. |
| 16:59.20 | thaddeusq | Otherwise, I'll bet you'd confront them about it. |
| 16:59.32 | rsimpkins | You're right. |
| 16:59.33 | fungus | C-level execs get to put whatever they want on there |
| 16:59.43 | fungus | Anything lower gets blown away. |
| 16:59.52 | rsimpkins | They set the standard for the rest of the company. |
| 17:00.03 | unum | I'm going to have to puy "Hackers and Painters" |
| 17:00.13 | JoshH | just don't delete it at all, and make the execs have to keep buying extra storage to make room for more copies |
| 17:00.34 | rsimpkins | JoshH: I ain't rockin' the boat. Just moaning about it in #utah. ;-) |
| 17:01.38 | thaddeusq | rsimpkins: moaning about the space issue or moaning because it's religious material? |
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| 17:02.40 | unum | at USU there was once a vigorous debate about what is accetable use by staff. One guy asked why family history research was allowed and porn wasn't |
| 17:02.41 | rsimpkins | Who am I to determine that 35 copies of the book of mormon in mp3 format is a waste of space? |
| 17:03.01 | unum | as long as he was in his office not subjecting anyone else to the picture/sound he should be allowed |
| 17:03.19 | JoshH | what about professors who do research involving porn |
| 17:03.31 | unum | that was part of the argument as well |
| 17:03.36 | rsimpkins | what about pr0n who does research on professors? |
| 17:03.41 | unum | the whole no porn thing was dropped |
| 17:03.57 | unum | except when applied to students in public labs |
| 17:04.10 | thaddeusq | rsimpkins: It's my opinion that personal mp3s on a corporate NAS are a waste of space. No matter what the content. |
| 17:04.14 | rsimpkins | We weave these tangled webs. ;-) |
| 17:04.46 | JoshH | so the bosses sit in their offices listening to mormon mp3's while everyone else is working? |
| 17:05.19 | rsimpkins | JoshH: Based on this, I'd say many others are listening besides just the execs. |
| 17:06.04 | fungus | We specifically allow music listening, but the files stored must be stored on the local hard drive. |
| 17:06.20 | rsimpkins | This has great BOFH potentiall. chmod 000 00_Doctrine_and_Covenants_Complete_000/DC_075_Section_72_000.mp3 |
| 17:06.34 | rsimpkins | user: I can't listen to my files! |
| 17:06.40 | rsimpkins | BOFH: Did you repent? |
| 17:06.45 | rsimpkins | user: no, why? |
| 17:06.52 | rsimpkins | BOFH: repent |
| 17:06.57 | rsimpkins | user: okay, done. |
| 17:07.04 | rsimpkins | chmod 644 00_Doctrine_and_Covenants_Complete_000/DC_075_Section_72_000.mp3 |
| 17:07.05 | unum | or bring in your own music player |
| 17:07.11 | rsimpkins | BOFH: you are forgiven. |
| 17:07.12 | unum | that's what most of my coworkers do now |
| 17:07.12 | fungus | lol |
| 17:08.10 | rsimpkins | The BOFH has a pretty big God complex. |
| 17:08.34 | fungus | our helpdesk just assists users in moving their libraries to their local hard drives. |
| 17:09.03 | JoshH | i'd do something like replace the mp3's with deicide songs |
| 17:09.24 | unum | nickelback |
| 17:09.27 | unum | go with nickelback |
| 17:09.40 | unum | "something in your mouth" would be a good choice |
| 17:09.40 | JoshH | that's too mean |
| 17:12.38 | Sargun | rsimpkins, use attributes, they're easier to hide |
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| 18:21.42 | harleypig | Does anyone know of a good way to profile memory usage in a perl application? The fun thing is, some of this application is mod_perl, some is cgi. |
| 18:22.05 | harleypig | And, yes, I know that *technically* they are the same thing. |
| 18:37.25 | neybar | nothing specific to perl, but valgrind is generaly useful |
| 19:44.34 | Supaplex | Jayce^_: yo |
| 19:46.49 | Jayce^_ | hey |
| 20:02.06 | Jayce^_ | stderr: which part of the tetons? |
| 20:04.19 | unum | tetons? |
| 20:04.33 | unum | is going to bechler |
| 20:04.57 | stderr | Jayce^_: kayaked down the Snake for a couple days, and stayed in the Gros Ventres campground for a couple days too |
| 20:05.03 | stderr | then headed through Yellowstone up to Bozeman |
| 20:05.19 | Jayce^_ | 191? |
| 20:06.01 | Jayce^_ | jsut drove down that a couple weeks ago (opposite directon) |
| 20:06.35 | stderr | yea 191 |
| 20:07.29 | stderr | amazing bald eagle nest right before West Yellowstone gate |
| 20:08.14 | Jayce^_ | yeah, been building the last several years, had some good pics of it a couple years ago |
| 20:08.37 | stderr | yea I got some good pics of him looking out from the nest |
| 20:08.46 | Jayce^_ | my favorite areas are usually around the west yellowstone towards the garnder areas |
| 20:08.46 | stderr | (or her, as the case may well have been) |
| 20:10.11 | stderr | I like Yellowstone but whenever we go to a heavily tourist area I want to facepalm continually |
| 20:10.59 | stderr | had a couple guys trying to feed a buffalo bull in one of the geothermal areas |
| 20:11.16 | stderr | leaning over the two post fence as if it offers some sort of protection if that buffalo wants to go through it at em |
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| 20:19.34 | Jayce^_ | yup |
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| 20:19.56 | Jayce^_ | I usually try to get in with my family/friends.. some used to be rangers, others have special access.. |
| 20:20.12 | Jayce^_ | I hate the tourist nature of yellowstone, most of the park is ruined from it |
| 20:24.05 | unum | I was talking to my friend about going up there |
| 20:24.14 | unum | and some girls over heard us and were excited and wanted to go |
| 20:24.29 | unum | then I told them it would be a week long back packing trip, that eliminated all interest |
| 20:38.55 | Sargun | unum, aren't you unmarried? |
| 20:40.23 | stderr | Jayce^_: yea, my Dad used to be a ranger and I have a lot of family friends who used/still work there |
| 20:40.47 | unum | Sargun: ya, but they were a bunch of whiney girls |
| 20:40.59 | unum | I hope his girl friend comes along |
| 20:41.06 | unum | and hooks us up with rei discounts |
| 20:41.08 | stderr | Jayce^_: family friend, Mark Marschall, wrote the main Yellowstone hiking guide |
| 20:41.16 | unum | do they sell freeze dried stuff? |
| 20:41.18 | Sargun | REI? |
| 20:41.36 | unum | ya |
| 20:41.39 | stderr | Jayce^_: used to be the head backcountry ranger, now he's the main ranger in the... Virgin Islands. Lucky son-of-a-gun |
| 20:41.44 | unum | big out doors reseller |
| 20:41.49 | Jayce^_ | that's a fun park |
| 20:41.51 | Jayce^_ | :) |
| 20:42.03 | stderr | never been :\ |
| 20:42.13 | Jayce^_ | haven't either, but can guess on that one :) |
| 20:42.25 | stderr | hehe no kidding |
| 20:43.02 | unum | they do sell food |
| 20:44.42 | unum | s/reseller/retailer |
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| 22:42.59 | blendmaster1024 | haha... "Obviously I was either onto something, or on something. |
| 22:43.01 | blendmaster1024 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:43.03 | blendmaster1024 | " |
| 22:43.13 | blendmaster1024 | that's from fortune |
| 22:43.31 | blendmaster1024 | i have it set to run during my .bashrc, and i just opened a term, that's what it said |
| 22:49.38 | blendmaster1024 | ick, i HATE yum! |
| 22:49.43 | blendmaster1024 | slow..... |
| 22:50.35 | blendmaster1024 | ick. i'd better shut up now, lol. |
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