| 00:31.53 | Sargun_Screen | TimRiker: Are there actually any UMA operators in the US? |
| 00:33.03 | TimRiker | Sargun_Screen: t-mobile still operates UMA as far as I know. I don't have a UMA enabled handset though. |
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| 01:11.59 | Sargun_Screen | /window/window 3 |
| 01:20.16 | Supaplex | with avidemux, what's the encoding difference between apple ipod, and apple ipod 5.5g? is the former for prior to fifth gen ipods? |
| 01:36.46 | elg | tensai: re miscarriages, we were advised by i-don't-remember-who (or what book) to hold off until the 2nd trimester to tell people. she's had a couple miscarriages and we were glad we did. both because then you don't have to go explain to everyone that you had a miscarriage, and because it's a sad thing to get grandparents' hopes up and then they're dashed. |
| 01:38.07 | elg | but, depending on her relationship with the mother(s), it can be good to talk about it, even if the mother(s) didn't know she was pregnant. I guess it depends on the person. But whenever I hear people announcing they're probably pregnant (they're not even far enough along to be really sure, but the stick has a plus on it!), I cringe |
| 01:43.07 | goozbach | harleypig: shoot! |
| 01:44.31 | elg | heh. I just found out the move reviewer I like to read is LDS |
| 01:45.10 | elg | totally didn't see it coming, either. but now that I think of it I guess I first found him linked from someone's blog who is LDS... maybe |
| 01:46.48 | elg | http://www.ericdsnider.com/snide/how-to-speak-mormon/ |
| 01:52.52 | goozbach | elg: you didn't know snider was a mormon? |
| 01:53.15 | goozbach | his breakout was a byu student newspaper article IIRC |
| 01:53.37 | elg | nope. i had no clues whatever. I didn't research the guy, I just read a few reviews that i agreed with and stuck him (his movie reviews) in my rss feed |
| 01:55.15 | goozbach | I see |
| 01:55.27 | goozbach | so the LDS based ads on his site were never in your view |
| 01:55.34 | goozbach | there are a lot |
| 01:55.36 | goozbach | BTW |
| 01:55.53 | elg | and the guy reviews R movies without blinking and disses bad G movies (much to my delight) |
| 01:56.26 | elg | ads? what are those? |
| 01:56.45 | elg | i do click through on reviews of movies I want to read more (his feed isn't full-text) but I never noticed any lds ads |
| 01:57.03 | elg | though I see a big fat conference/byu ad now (and conference is still some ways off) |
| 01:57.35 | elg | so either I'm just completely unobservant or fantastically improbable |
| 02:21.22 | goozbach | I'm gonna go with yes :) |
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| 02:53.52 | tensai | elg: her mom can be a bit chatty and one of her good friends is even more chatty. that was our main reason for holding off. |
| 02:54.10 | tensai | luckily for us it never made a difference, and actually for the last one we did end up telling everybody early |
| 02:54.13 | elg | yeah, hard to keep the cat in the bag |
| 02:54.28 | tensai | that was because she was deathly sick and we didn't want people to worry |
| 02:55.11 | Sargun | maquis, yt? |
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| 13:04.20 | goozbach | in the jungle the mighty jungle... the sjansen changesthetopic today |
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| 15:37.10 | maquis | Sargun_Screen: hi i'm here now |
| 15:37.45 | maquis | Sargun_Screen: did it go well? |
| 15:48.24 | eightyeight | great. now i'm in the mood for some gnr |
| 15:50.06 | JoshH | i just listened to nightrain |
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| 16:21.52 | sinuhe | How do I map the GNU screen escape key to the Windows key (super key?). A .screenrc "escape ^Zz" binds to C-z (instead of C-a) as an example, but I want S-a (where S is Super, assumng the connection). |
| 16:23.41 | goozbach | http://www.nabble.com/escape-0xa0-in-utf8-td22259876.html |
| 16:24.45 | goozbach | http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=425890 |
| 16:24.51 | goozbach | sinuhe: try those^^ |
| 16:25.04 | sinuhe | ^^? |
| 16:25.29 | goozbach | the two links silly |
| 16:25.35 | goozbach | nabble.com |
| 16:25.39 | sinuhe | I've read those |
| 16:25.40 | goozbach | has a re-map of super key |
| 16:25.45 | goozbach | to keycode 115 |
| 16:25.54 | goozbach | then uses ctrl-115 to control screen |
| 16:26.05 | goozbach | the second isn't as useful |
| 16:26.08 | sinuhe | The first one used xmodemap to remap the key before using it, and that was with iso8859 |
| 16:26.24 | goozbach | well the idea is there |
| 16:26.30 | goozbach | you can build on it I suppose |
| 16:28.09 | goozbach | holy shit! http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/a-quick-tutorial-on-screen/#comment-108383 |
| 16:28.10 | brac | [A quick tutorial on screen] |
| 16:28.19 | goozbach | ~language goozbach |
| 16:28.19 | ibot | ACTION grabs goozbach by the ear and washes goozbach's mouth out with soap |
| 16:28.34 | goozbach | it was so worth that ammount of emotion however |
| 16:31.55 | sinuhe | Notice how people are always asking how to map the windows key for screen, but no one every responds. |
| 16:32.55 | goozbach | sinuhe: you have the source code |
| 16:32.56 | Sargun | ~seen maquis |
| 16:32.58 | ibot | maquis is currently on #utos (12d 9h 23m 27s) #ubuntu-us-ut (12d 9h 23m 27s). Has said a total of 131 messages. Is idling for 55m 13s, last said: 'Sargun_Screen: did it go well?'. |
| 16:34.12 | Sargun | is very good at missing maquis |
| 16:35.33 | maquis | Sargun: i'm here :) |
| 16:38.42 | goozbach | sinuhe: read all the comments in the nabble thread |
| 16:38.50 | goozbach | someone found a way with utf-8 |
| 16:39.56 | sinuhe | With the keymap, yes |
| 16:40.44 | Sargun | maquis, Alana: Young one |
| 16:40.56 | Sargun | I learned Alana was 15, and Alana learned she didn't know my age. |
| 16:41.08 | Sargun | erm, alana learned I didn't know her age |
| 16:41.13 | maquis | ah |
| 16:41.19 | maquis | did you guys have fun? |
| 16:41.29 | Sargun | fun? |
| 16:41.43 | Sargun | More like, a few moments after learning this, I face palmed |
| 16:42.18 | Sargun | so, my guess is to toss that. |
| 16:42.50 | Sargun | Ari wasn't online all day yesterday, and when I called her at ~1400, she didn't pickup her phone, it went to the voicemail that she has not set up. |
| 16:43.07 | maquis | Sargun: ah... |
| 16:43.33 | Sargun | So, all in all, it was a major screw up. |
| 16:43.47 | sjansen | <voice character="Nelson" show="Simpsons">Ha ha</voice> |
| 16:43.49 | Sargun | I'm going to try to pursue Ari once more, call her again possibly. |
| 16:43.53 | Sargun | sjansen, -_- |
| 16:44.06 | goozbach | ~sjansen++ |
| 16:44.28 | maquis | Sargun: that type of stuff does happen, unfortunately |
| 16:45.32 | Sargun | maquis, The Ari one, or the Alana one? |
| 16:45.48 | maquis | Sargun: the alana one was what i was referring to |
| 16:45.49 | Sargun | The Ari situation I've encountered several times before. |
| 16:45.54 | Sargun | The Alana one I haven't |
| 16:46.03 | maquis | as for people not answering phones and going to un set-up voicemail... that's completely common |
| 16:46.37 | Sargun | Though, with the statutory rape laws in this state, ending it immediately would probably be advisable |
| 16:47.10 | sjansen | WTF?! The _only_ thing holding you back is the law?! |
| 16:48.24 | Sargun | sjansen, Not the only thing, but the primary thing |
| 16:54.27 | unum | they are less than two years apart |
| 16:54.42 | unum | I've dated girl nine years younger than me so I can't really say anything :) |
| 16:54.58 | unum | just girls nine years younger than me are 21 |
| 16:55.25 | goozbach | unum: have you exceeded the creepiness rule? |
| 16:55.34 | goozbach | half your age + 7 |
| 16:55.42 | unum | oops |
| 16:55.46 | unum | she came on to me! |
| 16:56.02 | goozbach | SHE violated the rule then |
| 16:56.08 | goozbach | you creep! :) |
| 16:57.15 | maquis | Sargun: yeah... breaking it off is probably best |
| 16:58.00 | Sargun | unum, 18.5-15.9>2; therefore it's a felony |
| 16:58.13 | Sargun | and a permanent sex offender registration |
| 16:58.27 | unum | ah I thought you were talking about the other one, but that one's only a misdeamoner |
| 16:58.36 | Sargun | Oh, the other one is 18. |
| 16:58.40 | Sargun | Ari = 18. |
| 16:58.46 | Sargun | Ari.age |
| 16:58.48 | Sargun | whatever |
| 16:58.52 | unum | I thought there was one that was almost 17 |
| 16:59.03 | goozbach | pics or it didn't happen |
| 16:59.06 | unum | I'm probably mis remembering |
| 16:59.06 | goozbach | :) |
| 16:59.39 | Sargun | unum, I thought Alana was almost 17, but there was a small issue with my memory |
| 16:59.42 | Sargun | corruption I believe. |
| 16:59.45 | unum | ah |
| 16:59.52 | unum | so she's almost 16 |
| 16:59.53 | Sargun | needs ECC memory + memtest |
| 17:00.42 | unum | when I went to college my girl friend was six months younger than me and still in high school, and I thought that was weird enough |
| 17:02.08 | eightyeight | did sjansen just do xml on irc? |
| 17:03.10 | tensai | unum: mine was 2 years younger and still in high school. I got lots of crap about that. but then I married her a few years later anyway. |
| 17:03.13 | eightyeight | first, microsoft contributes two pieces of code to the gpl. then sjansen writes xml. what's next? harleypig flying? |
| 17:04.10 | jalbretsen | ya.... I would not call it contribute |
| 17:04.22 | jalbretsen | http://www.osnews.com/story/21882/Microsoft_s_Linux_Kernel_Code_Drop_Result_of_GPL_Violation |
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| 17:05.09 | eightyeight | jalbretsen: and the other contribution? |
| 17:05.15 | eightyeight | the plugin to moodle? |
| 17:07.01 | jalbretsen | good question, but I have hard time thinking they went "CRAP! Let's release this code so we don't violate GPL.... hey you guys have anything you want to GPL while we are at it? |
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| 17:18.55 | RyanE | XML in IRC? Blasphemy! </RyanE> |
| 17:19.56 | eightyeight | sjansen: http://www.suse.com/index_uk.html |
| 17:19.58 | brac | [Welcome to SuSE] |
| 17:20.07 | eightyeight | nods |
| 17:20.15 | eightyeight | "SuSE" not "SUSE". :) |
| 17:28.02 | Sargun | Why is everyone making a big deal about the Hyper-V stuff? |
| 17:28.51 | eightyeight | really? |
| 17:30.32 | harleypig | wheeee! |
| 17:30.40 | harleypig | I'm flying! |
| 17:30.54 | eightyeight | microsoft has called linux a cancer. they say the kernel violates 200+ patents. they have always been anti-gpl. they believe sharing code is evil. so, when they release two products under the gpl? what do you think is going to happen? |
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| 17:40.39 | unum | so I was right when I said they caught cancer |
| 17:40.43 | unum | and it infect their code |
| 17:40.53 | unum | and now it took that whole program |
| 17:41.48 | unum | bwhahahahaha |
| 17:41.51 | jsmith | It certainly made for an interesting discussion while I was talking about open source licensing in my class this week |
| 17:42.41 | unum | I bet |
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| 18:02.05 | Migs | this dude from the Salt Lake City School District keeps IMing me about how to set up WordPress blogs. They came to our office for a meeting about it, since they want to set up blogs for their teachers like we did, and I went over it with them, and what we did. He can't figure it out, but he's starting to sound kind of noobish, asking me questions about his setup I'd have no clue about. |
| 18:12.36 | Migs | I mean, I like helping people out, but I can't spend all day answering his questions |
| 18:19.43 | Migs | needs to change his attitude |
| 18:20.17 | Sargun | Migs, tell him to hire this consultant you know, his name is Sargun. |
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| 18:28.03 | harleypig | I need to add a comment to the beginning and end of a bunch of html fragment files (<!-- Begin filename -->...<!-- End filename -->) ... does someone have a quick one liner I can use to do this? |
| 18:28.19 | harleypig | Even if I have to run it twice, once for the first comment and once for the last. |
| 18:37.45 | Migs | http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=recursion |
| 18:37.51 | Migs | hahaha, "Did you mean: recursion" |
| 18:42.22 | sjansen | eightyeight: Uhm.... Did you actually read anything on that page? Sure, back in the 9.2 days it was spelled SuSE. What's your point? |
| 18:43.16 | sjansen | Last changed: 09.10.2001 07:58 MET DST |
| 18:43.41 | sjansen | Novell hadn't started to impose sanity yet. |
| 19:01.09 | Tene | http://www.florentijnhofman.nl/dev/project.php?id=104 |
| 19:01.10 | brac | [Florentijn Hofman] |
| 19:02.13 | unum | since we've been discussing dating issues.... |
| 19:02.29 | unum | I have a reservation for some backpacking sites in Yellowstone |
| 19:02.59 | unum | I've been frustrated with trying to make plans with others in the past so this time, I decided to just get the reservations and go by myself if I had to |
| 19:03.37 | unum | well I posted on my facebook page that I'm going backpacking in yellowstone and that people are welcome to join me |
| 19:03.56 | unum | I think this girl is going to invite her friends to join me(not her) because she feels sorry for me |
| 19:04.11 | unum | I've got a few weeks I'm sure I'll talk to her before then |
| 19:04.24 | unum | I can just wait and bring it up and make sure she knows I invited MY friends |
| 19:04.38 | unum | why would I want to go backpacking alone with HER friends |
| 19:04.43 | unum | I'd much rather go alone |
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| 19:37.24 | tensai | you never know. they could be fun people. |
| 19:37.40 | tensai | or they might be total losers and ruin your vacation |
| 19:38.27 | unum | yep |
| 19:38.37 | unum | I know I will have a good time if I go alone |
| 19:39.02 | unum | seeing as how they are probably going to all be guys she rejected, I betting the loser possibility is high |
| 19:39.37 | unum | she does stuff where she invites people to things and doesn't tell them that she won't be there |
| 19:39.54 | tensai | that's very awkward of her |
| 19:40.05 | unum | she refuses to accept the fact that people go to things to be with her, not because they like the activity |
| 19:40.52 | unum | once she invited me to an activity with a group of friends. including this guy I knew she had gone on a date with, she complained a lot about it him |
| 19:41.06 | unum | due to my behaviour they ended up breaking up the next day |
| 19:41.24 | unum | I had known about 1 date six months earlier |
| 19:41.45 | unum | if I had known they were dating I would have behaved differently, but I thought she had only invited him to be nice |
| 19:48.29 | unum | that rant probably didn't make any sense |
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| 19:49.55 | tuple | made sense enough |
| 19:50.50 | elg | i would really really not want to go hiking/camping with a bunch of random male friends of a girl I know |
| 19:51.10 | elg | maybe because I don't have much in common with most guys |
| 19:51.16 | elg | being a geek and all |
| 19:51.54 | elg | girls, they don't have to be geeks. girls are sociable. guys, if you don't like the caveman things they like, are about as much fun as carrying on a conversation with a cardboard box |
| 19:52.29 | Migs | That's not true at all with the younger generation |
| 19:52.34 | Migs | Everyone is at least a minor geek. |
| 19:52.35 | unum | elg: that's the case with me |
| 19:52.41 | eightyeight | sjansen: just giving you crap |
| 19:53.00 | unum | Migs: I've found myself thinking that but then being disappointed |
| 19:53.01 | Migs | Do you know how inexcusable it is for a teenager to NOT have a portable MP3 player? |
| 19:53.16 | unum | sure they all play video games, have mp3 players, and use the internet |
| 19:53.17 | Migs | Or to be a social networks junkie? |
| 19:53.22 | Migs | *network |
| 19:53.26 | elg | that doesn't make them interesting |
| 19:53.30 | unum | but then they want to talk about the music on their mp3 players |
| 19:53.37 | unum | they play guitar hero |
| 19:53.40 | Migs | well sure...but they're still minor geeks |
| 19:53.44 | unum | and only use the internet to try and meet girls |
| 19:53.51 | Migs | compare that to an older person who has no clue how to use these tech tools |
| 19:53.54 | unum | s/meet/hook up with |
| 19:53.58 | elg | older people can be interesting |
| 19:54.04 | elg | even if they aren't geeks |
| 19:54.08 | Migs | I met my wife online :) |
| 19:54.11 | sjansen | whiteley: ping |
| 19:54.15 | elg | i can sit and talk with old people and have a good time |
| 19:54.26 | Migs | online romances are consistently on the rise |
| 19:55.04 | maquis | by that definition of "geeky" (using social networking, mp3 players and the internet), i think almost all the girls i know are "geeks" |
| 19:55.13 | maquis | i wouldn't call most of them geeks, though |
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| 19:56.38 | elg | that's like saying people are mechanically inclined because they can drive cars and maybe figure out when to go get their oil changed. |
| 19:57.08 | unum | nice analogy |
| 20:03.15 | elg | is going to get a car power inverter later |
| 20:03.18 | elg | any advice? |
| 20:05.27 | Jayce^ | if doing more than charging a phone, get one with a fan |
| 20:35.47 | Sargun | maquis: Geek: Someone who can understand what mov %eax,%ebx is given the fact it's assembly. |
| 20:47.32 | unum | http://www.sltrib.com/utah/ci_12890747 |
| 20:47.37 | unum | training training training |
| 20:49.24 | unum | of course if they had followed the training I had received for my permit they would have called the cops |
| 20:56.35 | unum | they guy grabbed a gun and went out to hunt the people who were watching his daughter, that's where the police should have been called |
| 21:03.48 | sjansen | Using technology does not a geek make. |
| 21:04.00 | sjansen | Geekiness is a way of thinking. |
| 21:09.10 | sjansen | If I had to pick characteristics to define a true geek, I would include a deep need to understand how things work. |
| 21:09.47 | unum | ya. I could see that definition |
| 21:09.58 | maquis | sjansen: how and/or why |
| 21:10.18 | unum | most people only care that their email gets to their friend |
| 21:10.24 | unum | they don't care about smtp |
| 21:10.26 | maquis | or a need to understand why things *don't* work |
| 21:10.30 | unum | or dns |
| 21:10.40 | maquis | and a need to tinker |
| 21:11.15 | sjansen | Tinker. There's a good word. |
| 21:11.35 | maquis | i think that's the big one for me |
| 21:11.45 | sjansen | That's probably the difference between a geek engineer. |
| 21:12.14 | maquis | sure, i didn't really *need* to be able to print over the wireless when i was in my apartment at school |
| 21:12.28 | maquis | but i had to mess with cups until that worked |
| 21:12.29 | sjansen | An engineer also needs understand how things work, although in a possibly more structured way. A geeky engineer tinkers. |
| 21:12.52 | maquis | (and then i had to mess with cups until it ceased to work... which meant that i then needed to mess with cups until it worked again) |
| 21:13.23 | sjansen | A geeky non-engineer beats on stuff, but in a less structured way. |
| 21:13.31 | maquis | i think the most important thing for someone to learn to be a geek is to not be afraid of breaking stuff |
| 21:13.53 | maquis | i've seen too many people who never really explored their computer because they were afraid that they might break something |
| 21:14.34 | maquis | growing up, my dad never got upset when i broke something on the computer again. when i was young, we'd sit down and i'd watch him fix it |
| 21:14.38 | sjansen | That was me back in my Mac fanboy days. People used to kick IRQs in my face at the beach. |
| 21:15.14 | maquis | as i got older, i got my own computer in my room (pretty much the retired family computer), and it became "it's your computer, you can fix it" |
| 21:15.54 | unum | my brother just gave me a great quote. if we taught gun safety like we teach sex ed: |
| 21:15.58 | unum | "Today we're going to learn about guns, however, we won't be discussing |
| 21:15.58 | unum | ammo, firing the gun or safety measures... Just don't use one until you |
| 21:15.59 | unum | need to..." |
| 21:16.24 | maquis | unum: that may be how it is in utah... |
| 21:17.32 | maquis | i had classmates at school for whom the translation from sex-ed (from their parents) to gun safety would be "if you shoot someone, let me know and i'll make it all better" |
| 21:18.27 | maquis | and at school, it would be more of "if you feel like it, there's a basket of safetys in the bathroom. but if you shoot anyone, you can just go someplace and pay a bunch of money and they'll make the mistake go away" |
| 21:18.34 | unum | in utah that's how it is from most parents, and by law in the schools |
| 21:18.50 | unum | and your parent have to sign a form before they can even teach you not to have sex |
| 21:21.50 | sjansen | In ND when I was kid, it was equivalent to: This is ammo. This is a magazine. This is how you put the magazine in the gun. Here are the mechanics of what happens when you chamber a round and pull the trigger. Be careful what you point at. |
| 21:22.27 | sjansen | For the most part, North Dakota's are practical and sane. |
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| 21:23.01 | romanovic | thats cause they're norwegian :) |
| 21:24.24 | maquis | sjansen: yeah |
| 21:24.28 | maquis | that's pretty sane |
| 21:24.49 | maquis | ours was very highly focused on various methods of abortion |
| 21:25.23 | maquis | and most of the kids at the school had parents who had already told them that if they got pregnant (or for the boys, if they got a girl pregnant), they would pay for the abortion |
| 21:25.34 | maquis | (the last "they" was referring to the parents) |
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| 21:26.07 | Jayce^ | ah yes, good old progressive washington... |
| 21:26.27 | maquis | Jayce^: yup |
| 21:31.04 | unum | speaking of which |
| 21:31.08 | unum | http://health.discovery.com/tv/i-didnt-know-i-was-pregnant/about.html |
| 21:31.09 | brac | [Tune In : I Didn't Know I Was Pregnant : Discovery Health] |
| 21:35.37 | romanovic | wow... |
| 21:52.24 | maquis | is very curious how somebody could fail to notice... |
| 21:55.32 | unum | the person who told me about the show said she never would have noticed her second child if it hadn't been for one day of morning sickness |
| 21:55.44 | unum | which she recognized from having been pregnant before |
| 21:55.56 | unum | my coworker told me her mom had no idea until she went into labor |
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| 22:13.34 | maquis | really? they didn't notice the lack of their cycle? or... getting kicked in the gut constantly? |
| 22:13.55 | maquis | i mean... i know not everyone gets morning sickness... but still... |
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| 22:25.12 | unum | she was spotting and the second child never kicked |
| 22:25.41 | unum | an other guy participating in the conversation stated that he didn't want to know what the term spotting meant |
| 22:25.51 | unum | he has kids I would think he would know these things |
| 22:25.58 | unum | and it's fairly obvious |
| 22:36.06 | tensai | maquis: from what I hear some people have pretty irregular periods and it isn't uncommon to miss a few. some women really don't show much, like my wife. combine all those and maybe an early term birth, I could see it. |
| 22:37.34 | JoshH | unum: some guys go out of their way not to learn anything about how their wife's body works |
| 22:37.44 | JoshH | i don't get it personally |
| 22:44.56 | unum | JoshH: I've noticed that. I don't get it either |
| 22:49.46 | maquis | tensai: true... but still... |
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| 22:52.11 | maquis | tensai: i guess for me it's just... well, it all feels really obvious... |
| 23:02.18 | JoshH | maquis: i guess some people are just really oblivious :) |
| 23:04.33 | maquis | JoshH: possibly |
| 23:12.39 | tensai | maquis: imagine you weren't expecting it and weren't knowledgeable enough about your own body to know what those signs meant |
| 23:14.19 | tensai | also being stupid wouldn't hurt |
| 23:15.56 | maquis | tensai: hmmm... trying to imagine all those things... |
| 23:28.26 | Sargun_Screen | unum: I wouln't know what spotting meant unless I had a fairly open girlfriend. |
| 23:31.30 | unum | some of them drink a lot so they're frequently sick and hung over from |
| 23:32.12 | unum | Sargun_Screen: you don't think you could have guessed from context? |
| 23:33.03 | maquis | Sargun_Screen: you're not married and you don't have kids |
| 23:37.21 | Sargun_Screen | maquis: Good point |
| 23:37.31 | Sargun_Screen | cannot wait until saturday |
| 23:39.58 | Sargun_Screen | isTaking welding |
| 23:40.04 | Sargun_Screen | Any advice from welders/ |
| 23:40.29 | maquis | wear the big glasses |
| 23:40.30 | Sargun_Screen | "Exploring Welding" |
| 23:40.42 | maquis | is not a welder, but figures that might be good advice |
| 23:40.43 | unum | keep the hot pointy part away from your skin |
| 23:40.54 | Sargun_Screen | unum: s/part/parts/ |
| 23:40.54 | unum | which type of welding? |
| 23:41.42 | unum | at usu they do underwater arc welding..... |
| 23:41.53 | unum | upside down is hard enough |
| 23:41.57 | Sargun_Screen | man, that seems cool |
| 23:42.19 | Sargun_Screen | ou will learn about and have the chance to try four types of welding taught at The Crucible: oxyacetylene, stick, metal inert gas (MIG), and tungsten inert gas (TIG). This class will inspire you and guide you to the type of welding most appropriate to the project you want to complete or the direction you want to go. |
| 23:42.38 | unum | one time I was at a simplot warehouse loading dock and my dad looked up and said those guys are as bad at me as welding upside down |
| 23:42.48 | unum | the metal plates above our heads were all charred |
| 23:43.23 | unum | I think tungsten is the only one I have done |
| 23:43.33 | unum | assuming they mean old school arce welding when they say stick |
| 23:44.41 | Sargun_Screen | thinks so as well |
| 23:44.56 | Sargun_Screen | August 1st, I'm taking fire eating |
| 23:45.20 | Sargun_Screen | any advice for that? |
| 23:45.20 | unum | by old school arc welding I mean the type where you basically have pair of jumper cables plugged into the wall and you clamp one pair to what you are welding and the other pair to a metal stick |
| 23:46.03 | Sargun_Screen | unum: I think it's a little bit more high tech than that now |
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| 23:55.43 | Sargun | hm |
| 23:55.54 | Sargun | has never eaten fire |
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