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| 01:27.48 | harleypig | Can someone tell me how to setup sendmail so it will forward a local user account to a remote address? |
| 01:28.33 | harleypig | I've got roots mails going to my user account, and I've added my user account to the virtusertable as "root myemail@address.com" and rehashed and restarted sendmail, but no mail is being sent |
| 01:31.55 | sinuhe | harleypig: I may have an example in my archves. Just a minute. |
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| 01:41.22 | sinuhe | harleypig: I set up my mail server at one point as a smart relay, and configured it with a virtusertable for my account (sinuhe@deevans.net), then added a generics table for a local laptop with "sinuhe@@seshat.deevans.net sinuhe@@deevans.net"; the virtusertable had "sinuhe@@deevans.net sinuhe@@seshat.deevans.net". Is that what you were looking for? |
| 01:42.17 | sinuhe | sinuhe@@deevans.net: sinuhe@@seshat.deevans.net (don't forget the colon) |
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| 01:48.56 | goozbach | harleypig: user: foo@example.com in /etc/aliases? |
| 01:59.09 | sinuhe | goozbach: That might forward the email (though why is .forward or .procmailrc note being used for this); but I don't think that's what he's asking about. |
| 01:59.18 | sinuhe | s/note/not/ |
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| 14:43.18 | bonez46 | I am looking for a comparison of CRM applications... this is for my wife's business. She wants to find one web accessible database that will allow her to keep track of clients, vendors, as well as sales data. she knows Salesforce is there, but I'd like to help her find some other option .. Suggestions? |
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| 15:09.42 | brac | maquis is an ill-borne bag of clouted pus |
| 15:14.11 | goozbach | poor maquis |
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| 15:59.58 | _crush | ping room |
| 16:08.40 | bonez46 | any vbox gurus here? I can't seem to figure out how to setup and use a parallel port for my printer |
| 16:32.36 | sjansen | _crush: pong room |
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| 18:15.08 | _crush | someone still here? i had to step away for a bit |
| 18:45.43 | sjansen | _crush: We come and go. Something you needed. |
| 18:45.56 | sjansen | ? |
| 18:48.07 | sjansen | ~rlart |
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| 18:49.45 | sjansen | ~rlart |
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| 18:56.18 | sjansen | ~rlart |
| 18:56.19 | ibot | drops a baby grand on sinuhe |
| 18:56.20 | _crush | Crap |
| 18:56.37 | _crush | Sorry, keep having to step away, but I think I have some time now |
| 18:57.02 | _crush | I'm having some issues with postfix/dovecot and SELinux |
| 18:57.14 | _crush | when someone sends mail, it doesn't hit my server (logs don't show it) |
| 19:09.44 | sjansen | What makes you suspect SELinux? |
| 19:10.13 | sjansen | What makes you think the problem is on your server, not theirs? |
| 19:12.53 | _crush | Well, it's a self hosted server. SELinux is turned on and mail stops, along with FTP, SELinux off and it works |
| 19:13.17 | _crush | So I'm fairly certain that it may not be specifically SELinux, but how postfix/dovecot and vsftpd are working with SELinux |
| 19:15.51 | sjansen | If SELinux is involved, you should be able to get log messages to help. |
| 19:15.58 | sjansen | setenforce 0 |
| 19:16.12 | sjansen | tail -f /var/log/audit/audit.log |
| 19:16.34 | sjansen | (Or, if that file doesn't exist: tail -f /var/log/messages) |
| 19:19.20 | _crush | I did that, and it pasted something large in but seemed to pretty much boil down avc: denied { sys_admin } |
| 19:19.56 | sjansen | It's too bad you deleted the scontext= and tcontext=, they would've helped. |
| 19:20.03 | _crush | I have the whole thing |
| 19:20.09 | sjansen | So why not share it? |
| 19:20.35 | sjansen | My physic powers are on the fritz today. |
| 19:20.41 | _crush | scontext=unconfined_u:system_r:ftpd_t:s0 tcontext=unconfined_u:system_r:ftpd_t:s0 |
| 19:20.52 | sjansen | http://pastebin.org/ <-- One option. |
| 19:21.47 | _crush | http://pastebin.org/67 |
| 19:22.15 | sjansen | In what way is FTP broken? Download only? Upload too? |
| 19:22.51 | _crush | Just some background on the server: It's my own little box that I set up at my place (perks of Fiberoptic connection) and I use it for testing/playing |
| 19:23.05 | _crush | So I have full access to the server |
| 19:23.56 | _crush | When I try to connect, it says that the connection was refused but nothing in /var/log/messages and /var/log/audit/audit.log |
| 19:24.20 | _crush | ...filezilla reports the connection was refused |
| 19:24.33 | sjansen | service status vsftpd |
| 19:24.45 | sjansen | Is this RHEL or Fedora? (Looks like Fedora.) |
| 19:24.56 | _crush | Fedora 11 |
| 19:25.01 | _crush | vsftpd is running |
| 19:25.13 | _crush | so are postfix and dovecot (for the email problem, just so you know) |
| 19:25.35 | sjansen | I strongly discourage using Fedora for a server, even a personal server. |
| 19:26.13 | _crush | I know CentOS is more recommended, but I have to be the Fedora server guru at work so I need an environment that I can use. I know it's a bad idea but it's something I need to do |
| 19:27.28 | sjansen | You use Fedora on servers at _work_ too?! |
| 19:27.38 | sjansen | hands _crush the crazy crown |
| 19:28.10 | _crush | Yes, I work at Fibernet and boss came in and said set up services for CentOS, Fedora, Ubuntu (LTS and non) and FreeBSD servers |
| 19:28.34 | sjansen | I don't know much about F11's SELinux policy. I recommend "yum install setroubleshoot-server" to get more helpful log messages. |
| 19:28.45 | _crush | We get like 2 people that have them but still, we need someone who knows them and pretty much everyone else stays away from them. Since I already have it for a desktop, I got the crown |
| 19:28.55 | _crush | Hmm...didn't know about that. I'll install it and reboot |
| 19:29.22 | _crush | I need to reboot into the latest kernel anyway |
| 19:29.53 | rsimpkins | sjansen: Some people are insane and want to do bleeding edge development on fedora servers. But that's not quite so crazy as having 40 gentoo servers. ;-) |
| 19:30.44 | sjansen | You've got an odd definition of "development" if it means you need vsftpd and dovecot. |
| 19:31.10 | sjansen | Using Fedora for bleeding edge development I understand, using it as a server is insane. |
| 19:31.22 | rsimpkins | sjansen: Maybe they are vsftpd and dovecot developers. ;-) |
| 19:31.47 | rsimpkins | I'm just being difficult. Yes, it is insane. So many people just don't know any better. |
| 19:32.05 | rsimpkins | It is the same reason why I see big massive root partitions on systems - as the sole partition. |
| 19:32.25 | rsimpkins | And that's the rule. The exception is to see a system properly partitioned. |
| 19:36.57 | sinuhe | sjansen, _crush: Long term, Fedora is a bad choice for a server. Short term, for certain conditions, I can see using Fedora, but having to keep up with the changes every six months, both conceptually, and performing the upgrade itself, is a good way spin your wheels. |
| 19:37.14 | sinuhe | s/spin/to spin/ |
| 19:39.05 | _crush | Yeah I know, but it's what I do. I've actually enjoyed doing it since Fedora 9, call me the King of Crazy, but I like doing it. I don't know why, but I do |
| 19:41.14 | rsimpkins | _crush: there are some ethical implications here. Like, what would happen if you got hit by the proverbial bus. Would someone be able to follow you? Would things work for 6 months without issue while you are in the hospital? |
| 19:41.16 | sjansen | Now that you have sealert installed, try generating new log messages. |
| 19:44.07 | _crush | Things would work, and my job is to mostly help troubleshoot when people call in with a problem on their server. We don't have to help them, but we can for a fee. It's set up to maintain itself for a while, I'd assume a year or so, if I were to be hit by a bus or meet a guy with a book that says "Don't Panic" in friendly letters on the front |
| 19:44.40 | _crush | And in that time someone else here could pick up what I know that they don't, there are people I work with just as capable, I just got to be the whipping boy for it |
| 19:48.43 | _crush | I'm not some big important guy, just that I know more specifically about Fedora servers than others is all and I maintain the local mirror |
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| 19:59.54 | Sargun | o.O |
| 20:00.01 | Sargun | _crush, you talk a lot. |
| 20:00.33 | Sargun | _crush, Ubuntu LTS, RHEL, or SUSE |
| 20:01.41 | rsimpkins | Sargun: You don't talk enough! ;-P~~ |
| 20:02.23 | *** topic/#utah by Sargun -> http://utos.org/irc | Log @ http://ibot.rikers.org/#utah | UTOSC 2009 Call for Papers is now open! - http://ping.fm/fpjyX | Spork! | ???????? b a start |
| 20:02.29 | Sargun | err, oops. |
| 20:02.40 | *** topic/#utah by Sargun -> http://utos.org/irc | Log @ http://ibot.rikers.org/#utah | UTOSC 2009 Call for Papers is now open! - http://ping.fm/fpjyX | Spork! | ???????? a start |
| 20:02.43 | Sargun | ???????? |
| 20:02.49 | Sargun | someone want to put that in the topic |
| 20:02.54 | Sargun | as my irc client sucks apparently |
| 20:03.27 | rsimpkins | Put ???????? in the topic? |
| 20:03.48 | Sargun | ???????? <-- shows up as ???????? |
| 20:04.26 | rsimpkins | Yeah, your irc must be confuzzled. Just like when I type my password. ******** |
| 20:05.04 | Sargun | oh, I didn't know IRC did that to passwords, let me try ******* |
| 20:05.54 | _crush | Sargun, are you recommending other distros as a server? |
| 20:06.22 | Sargun | _crush, yes ma'am. |
| 20:06.34 | _crush | I am a guy... |
| 20:06.48 | Sargun | so? |
| 20:06.52 | rsimpkins | Well, that's good to know. :) |
| 20:06.59 | _crush | Wouldn't ma'am not apply then? |
| 20:07.12 | Sargun | _crush, in this age of gender equality, I don't know |
| 20:07.23 | Sargun | and with all those weird liberal states changing the definition of words |
| 20:07.49 | rsimpkins | Sargun: Like the one you live in? |
| 20:07.58 | _crush | Dang hippies! |
| 20:08.03 | Sargun | rsimpkins, shutup. |
| 20:08.08 | rsimpkins | <3 hippies. |
| 20:08.15 | Sargun | rsimpkins, we do it better. |
| 20:08.41 | *** topic/#utah by sjansen -> http://utos.org/irc | Log @ http://ibot.rikers.org/#utah | UTOSC 2009 Call for Papers is now open! - http://ping.fm/fpjyX | Spork! | Sargun is too cool for Unicode |
| 20:08.51 | Sargun | I am. |
| 20:09.08 | *** topic/#utah by sjansen -> http://utos.org/irc | Log @ http://ibot.rikers.org/#utah | UTOSC 2009 Call for Papers is now open! - http://ping.fm/fpjyX | Sargun think he's too cool for Unicode |
| 20:09.16 | *** topic/#utah by sjansen -> http://utos.org/irc | Log @ http://ibot.rikers.org/#utah | UTOSC 2009 Call for Papers is now open! - http://ping.fm/fpjyX | Sargun thinks he's too cool for Unicode |
| 20:09.19 | Sargun | o.O |
| 20:09.57 | _crush | And sjansen is to cool for spellchecks before he commits a topic. |
| 20:10.49 | rsimpkins | sjansen never makes mistakes. He says exactly what he intends to say. |
| 20:11.43 | sjansen | Wrong. I edit and spell check too much. Unfortunately, I quickly exceed my maximum stack depth and end up shipping data before it's fully processed. |
| 20:12.29 | Sargun | o.O |
| 20:12.55 | _crush | My problem is the FSB connecting my brain to my mouth and hands is too slow |
| 20:13.01 | Sargun | _crush, then again, I have servers running debian, and things |
| 20:13.14 | _crush | My brain sends commands too quickly and it can come out mangled |
| 20:13.35 | Sargun | _crush, why don't you just make it use a syncronous communication system |
| 20:14.23 | sjansen | The refit is too expensive, not to mention too invasive. |
| 20:14.39 | Sargun | it should only be a software upgrade |
| 20:15.21 | _crush | I've heard it's similiar to the multi-opti-pupil-optomy... |
| 20:16.04 | sjansen | Sargun: Obviously you don't understand the nature of the problem. |
| 20:16.31 | Sargun | sjansen, well, I'm just repeating what the consultant is saying |
| 20:28.17 | _crush | Back to the topic...I installed that selinux troubleshoot helper and checked that vsftpd is running |
| 20:28.49 | _crush | I try to connect using filezilla, says 'could not connect to server' and here is what I see in audit.log |
| 20:29.06 | Sargun | setenabled 0 |
| 20:29.28 | sjansen | ~ignore Sargun |
| 20:29.29 | ibot | ACTION sticks her fingers in her ears. "La, la, la! I can't hear you, Sargun!" |
| 20:29.37 | sjansen | grep sealert /var/log/messages |
| 20:29.59 | _crush | http://pastebin.org/77 |
| 20:30.57 | _crush | Jul 3 14:27:48 aperture-server setroubleshoot: SELinux is preventing vsftpd (ftpd_t) "sys_admin" ftpd_t. For complete SELinux messages. run sealert -l 838f9d9f-178d-4abb-8bfb-621603642051 |
| 20:31.18 | sjansen | Copy and run the sealert -l 838f9d9f-178d-4abb-8bfb-621603642051 |
| 20:32.31 | _crush | Hmm...python errors |
| 20:32.58 | _crush | Just so I can make some people here hang their head with frustration, this is a headless server so no GUI |
| 20:33.20 | Sargun | yum install kde? |
| 20:33.48 | sjansen | sealert is purely text based |
| 20:34.55 | sjansen | http://pastebin.org/78 <-- An example of what you should see. |
| 20:34.59 | _crush | that is weird, it says no package kde available... |
| 20:36.13 | _crush | kdelibs is installed though |
| 20:36.38 | sjansen | yum groupinstall "KDE (K Desktop Environment)" "Sargun Only Knows Debian, And Even Then Barely" |
| 20:37.10 | sjansen | _crush: Just so we're clear, you don't need KDE. |
| 20:37.17 | sjansen | What Python errors did you get? |
| 20:37.37 | Sargun | sjansen, no, I'm not going to look up the actual group name |
| 20:40.08 | _crush | http://www.pastebin.org/81 |
| 20:41.11 | _crush | when I installed the troubleshoot helper it did grab some KDE packages and icon packages, which I thought was incredibly odd |
| 20:48.08 | sjansen | Looks like that's just an unfortunate method of displaying a previous exception. |
| 20:48.25 | sjansen | tail /var/log/setroubleshoot/setroubleshootd.log |
| 20:50.29 | sjansen | Try this: sealert -S -l '*' |
| 21:04.29 | _crush | nothing in the log file and I get a message 'cannot run as lookupid, already selected noservice' for sealert |
| 21:15.59 | sjansen | http://danwalsh.livejournal.com/28828.html |
| 21:19.49 | sjansen | So it'd be interesting to see: sealert -s -l '*' # Not the case change |
| 21:19.57 | sjansen | s/Not/Note/ |
| 21:23.30 | _crush | same thing |
| 21:24.39 | sjansen | huh |
| 21:24.59 | sjansen | Sorry, man, dunno. |
| 21:37.57 | _crush | Eh, I'll monkey with it later. So why is Dovecot not a good application to use? |
| 21:38.08 | _crush | Someone said that I was crazy for using it. |
| 21:44.02 | Sargun | dovecot is ifne |
| 21:44.02 | Sargun | fine |
| 21:44.28 | _crush | Oh oh, I think it's just great for what I'm doing so I wondered if there was something that might mess me up if I get more into it |
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| 22:29.51 | rsimpkins | I don't do enough development work. Can someone give me a crash course in vimdiff? |
| 22:30.13 | rsimpkins | Specifically, and I care about is how I 'merge' one line or block to the 'new' file. |
| 22:32.22 | rsimpkins | nm, I'll just use them like regular windows. |
| 22:32.41 | rsimpkins | I'm sure there must be a 'magic' merge lines command out there somewhere. |
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