| 00:01.04 | Sargun | harleypig, No, usermode sandboxing... |
| 00:01.24 | Sargun | tries to figure out what the hell fozzmoo's friend (on facebook) was saying to me: |
| 00:01.24 | Sargun | Yes, I'm glad someone caught on to my sarcasm. These things have about as much to do with federal spending as the time elapsed since the birth of Christ. |
| 00:01.24 | Sargun | >>> |
| 00:01.25 | Sargun | What do these things have anything to do with each other? The length of our money, the distance between the Sun and the Earth, and the amount of money that Obama has spent have nothing to do with each other. |
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| 03:33.53 | eightyeight | ~wtf scrot |
| 03:34.01 | eightyeight | neither do i |
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| 15:36.35 | sjansen | http://www.microsoft.com/australia/ie8/competition/ |
| 15:36.54 | sjansen | Can you say "desperate"? |
| 15:37.56 | JoshH | it will be on microsoft.com somewhere |
| 15:38.41 | JoshH | it would be cool if someone finds it with links2 |
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| 15:50.29 | sjansen | just realized that we have more female students than male students this week |
| 15:50.35 | sjansen | That never happens. |
| 15:50.41 | JoshH | any hot ones? |
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| 16:04.28 | TehLaser | JoshH: and we have an explanation for the rarity |
| 16:04.58 | JoshH | dunno about that |
| 16:05.10 | JoshH | girls know that the computer field is a great place to land a husband |
| 16:05.16 | JoshH | and that geeks make better lovers |
| 16:06.00 | TehLaser | Arguh! |
| 16:09.42 | unum | s/girls/some girls |
| 16:10.30 | unum | most girl I know rather date the athletic guy |
| 16:10.48 | TehLaser | Most *women* I know are either in relationships, or not looking for one. |
| 16:11.10 | JoshH | well even if you're a geek you should still be athletic |
| 16:11.13 | unum | TehLaser: most women I know are looking for a relationship |
| 16:11.22 | JoshH | obviously no woman wants to reproduce with a blob |
| 16:11.27 | unum | JoshH: I have arthritis it hurts to move |
| 16:12.17 | unum | I'm not a blob I'm just not toned |
| 16:12.25 | unum | nor will I ever be. my joints are bad |
| 16:12.37 | sjansen | http://www.geekstudies.org/2008/04/sexism-and-misogyny-in-geek-culture |
| 16:13.57 | unum | sjansen: you need to read "the camel has two humps" |
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| 16:14.30 | JoshH | my brother in law is the only man in an office with 13 people |
| 16:14.38 | sjansen | unum: I started. |
| 16:25.30 | sjansen | http://blogs.tedneward.com/2009/06/14/The+Quotcontroversyquot+Continues.aspx |
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| 16:30.11 | levi | sjansen: Idiots. |
| 16:30.27 | sjansen | Yup, pretty much. |
| 16:30.55 | levi | The backlash against professionalism has gone too far. |
| 16:32.42 | JoshH | heh, wow |
| 16:32.53 | JoshH | that would shock even me |
| 16:41.42 | maquis | sjansen: interesting... i agree that geek culture is not necessarily misogynistic... in fact, in some ways, i would argue that the geek culture is sometimes more willing to accept female geeks than the normal culture |
| 16:42.38 | JoshH | even in geek culture, that presentation would be considered quite extreme |
| 16:43.23 | JoshH | but you know how flash people are |
| 16:43.43 | maquis | notes that JoshH is referring to a different article posted by sjansen than she was, and goes to look at that article as well |
| 16:44.14 | JoshH | i only clicked the last link |
| 16:44.29 | JoshH | actually i clicked both, but only read the last one |
| 16:45.17 | maquis | the last one is... uh... yeah |
| 16:45.54 | maquis | thankfully, my experiences have pointed more toward my previous comment... |
| 16:46.53 | sjansen | maquis: But you do agree that JoshH should burn eternally for his sins against women, right? |
| 16:47.23 | maquis | huh?... uh... i mean.. yeah... |
| 16:49.25 | TehLaser | Maybe not *eternally*... |
| 16:49.29 | TehLaser | :) |
| 16:51.56 | JoshH | i've never hurt a woman |
| 16:53.03 | JoshH | except for when my dinner is too cold |
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| 17:02.20 | ^Migs^ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biqnL84l85s |
| 17:02.43 | JoshH | ^Migs^: did you have that anniversary dinner yet? |
| 17:03.08 | ^Migs^ | oh yeah. I thanked you for the suggestion after we did it, but guess you weren't around |
| 17:03.11 | ^Migs^ | we'll definitely return again |
| 17:03.36 | JoshH | awesome |
| 17:03.57 | JoshH | i'd ask if my gaurantee held true, but that might be prying a bit |
| 17:04.31 | ^Migs^ | Well, I won't be asking you for a refund, that's for sure. |
| 17:04.57 | JoshH | glad you liked it though |
| 17:08.50 | sjansen | wants a refund |
| 17:09.24 | sjansen | According to my accounting, I'm owed $2536. |
| 17:10.26 | JoshH | sjansen: do you guys use a GL credit card on your trips, or get reimbursed? |
| 17:10.43 | sjansen | GL Amex. |
| 17:11.08 | sjansen | So depending on the state, it may be necessary to user a personal card and get reimbursed. |
| 17:11.23 | JoshH | ya, lots of places don't take amex i guess |
| 17:11.36 | sjansen | Most of the time though, I decide that if they don't take AMEX they must not want my business. |
| 17:11.55 | sjansen | Actually, most places worth eating at do take AMEX. It's preferred by business users. |
| 17:12.25 | sjansen | But if you're in a hurry in California and just want something fast from McDonalds or such, they don't take AMEX. |
| 17:12.38 | sjansen | In fact, some fast food places in Cali don't take any cards. |
| 17:12.48 | JoshH | weird |
| 17:12.58 | JoshH | i never use cash for anything these days |
| 17:13.25 | sjansen | Yeah, if a place doesn't take plastic, it must not want my business. |
| 17:13.27 | JoshH | of course costco only takes amex, and amex is the only card i don't have |
| 17:13.55 | sjansen | You mean you've actually got a Diner's Club card? |
| 17:14.01 | maquis | costco only takes amex? that must be different for you guys |
| 17:14.04 | Jayce^ | JCB |
| 17:14.09 | maquis | i'm pretty sure costco 'round these parts takes visa |
| 17:14.11 | JoshH | they take debit cards, but only amex for credit |
| 17:14.17 | Jayce^ | right |
| 17:14.31 | maquis | JoshH: oh... |
| 17:14.45 | sjansen | Costco takes cash, debit, check or AMEX. They used to take all plastic, but must've negotiated a kickback in exchange for exclusivity. |
| 17:14.49 | maquis | doesn't know if she tried credit there |
| 17:15.16 | Jayce^ | sjansen: they've never done all, they used to be just discover, then mid-90's amex gave a better deal |
| 17:15.35 | Jayce^ | as JoshH said, they do debit too |
| 17:16.42 | bbeattie | iphone 3.0 is out |
| 17:17.14 | maquis | bbeattie: it is? |
| 17:17.14 | maquis | doh... should've brought my cord to work |
| 17:17.15 | bbeattie | yes, as of 11:04 |
| 17:21.51 | Jayce^ | surprisingly my 'GOLD' image is still valid |
| 17:22.25 | Jayce^ | I expected some minor version difference requiring a reset |
| 17:23.47 | Jayce^ | so, strawberry + peanut butter M&M's.. scary kinda awesome |
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| 17:27.41 | stderr | installs iPhone 3.0 over his 3.0 developer install |
| 17:27.44 | stderr | woot. |
| 17:28.07 | rbm | anyone know where one can get asterisk-compatible good-quality telephony cards that cost less than Digiuu |
| 17:28.11 | rbm | Digium |
| 17:33.33 | Jayce^ | stderr: it offered that? which version did you have? |
| 17:33.56 | Jayce^ | roberto, you should ask jsmith-away :-p |
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| 17:39.36 | stderr | Jayce^: I've had it for a couple months, comes with an Apple Developer acct. |
| 17:40.16 | rbm | Jayce^: jsmith works for Digium though |
| 17:40.17 | Jayce^ | yeah, just wondering which build.. I have the latest and it's not pushing me to upgrade, coworker with earlier version is |
| 17:40.27 | Jayce^ | rbm: hence my comment :) |
| 17:41.23 | stderr | Jayce^: think it was beta 5, unsure though. |
| 17:41.33 | Jayce^ | yeah, that's probably the diff |
| 17:44.21 | stderr | Jayce^: you buying Snow Leopard? |
| 17:50.30 | Jayce^ | oh yeah |
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| 17:52.31 | stderr | I may buy a new laptop in September when it comes out, Frederick Douglass is getting a lil long in the tooth. |
| 17:54.19 | Jayce^ | yeah, my wife is dropping hints, her old ppc based powerbook is acting up |
| 17:54.48 | stderr | "have you ever noticed how this makes a good frisbee? *chucks it at your head*" |
| 17:55.19 | Jayce^ | my wife's smart enough to drop good geek hints... |
| 17:55.31 | Jayce^ | man, this drive is really hot now.. |
| 17:55.31 | stderr | haha |
| 17:55.36 | stderr | nice |
| 17:55.48 | Jayce^ | are you postive I have an up to date backup of everything, just in case |
| 17:56.04 | stderr | hahaha |
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| 18:35.33 | maquis | Jayce^: are those M&Ms actually any good? i saw them at the store, but they freaked me out |
| 18:35.45 | maquis | wishes she had her iphone cord with her |
| 18:37.44 | Jayce^ | my wife picked some up last night, just tried them.. very good actually |
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| 18:45.04 | HarperA | 2001! |
| 18:58.55 | sjansen | A Space Odyssey! |
| 18:59.11 | sinuhe | An excellent film. I first saw it when I was 11. |
| 19:00.56 | goozbach | the book series is pretty good as well |
| 19:02.20 | sinuhe | Indeed |
| 19:32.24 | sjansen | Teal'c? Is that you? |
| 19:44.08 | maquis | anyone here having problems upgrading iphone? |
| 19:44.20 | maquis | rumors at work are that a couple people are temporarily bricked |
| 19:48.31 | sjansen | Are they sure it wasn't just some yahoo replacing their coffee with Folger's and their iPhone with a painted brick? |
| 19:49.08 | maquis | sjansen: looks like it's fixable, but it's 30-minutes or so of brickness |
| 19:51.02 | TehLaser | fails to understand how bricking is even possible. |
| 19:51.41 | TehLaser | We've had flash firmware for *how long* now? |
| 19:56.09 | Jayce^ | only people I've heard brick had just been frustrated during the install/activation (very long time) |
| 19:56.24 | Jayce^ | thought that was brick, and had disconnected (mid-firmware upgrade) |
| 20:00.25 | TehLaser | Even that ought to fail safe. |
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| 20:17.46 | sjansen | shalkie: mistymushroom? |
| 20:18.15 | shalkie | looks confused and walks away... |
| 20:18.55 | shalkie | Nope, sorry sjansen no idea who/what mistymushroom is... |
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| 20:32.39 | mrpull | who the heck is shalkie? |
| 20:33.33 | mrpull | maquis: I had success upgrading to 3.x and it was previously jailbroken |
| 20:33.42 | Jayce^ | ditto |
| 20:33.45 | mrpull | the backup process takes forever though |
| 20:34.23 | maquis | mrpull: ok... looks like most of them recovered if you are willing to be without the phone for 45 minutes or something |
| 20:34.29 | maquis | these are non-jailbroken ones, too |
| 20:40.44 | mrpull | Jayce^: have you jailbraked 3.0 yet? I miss lock calendar (or is it calendar lock?) |
| 20:41.01 | Jayce^ | I haven't yet |
| 20:41.05 | Jayce^ | never used that one |
| 20:41.55 | mrpull | Lock Calendar is a gem |
| 20:42.14 | mrpull | it fills the space between the clock and "slide to unlock" with your next X appointments |
| 20:42.17 | mrpull | and is scrollable |
| 20:42.54 | mrpull | I'm not going to Jailbreak this phone... it is gonna be a handmedown when my 3GS comes in the mail |
| 20:43.21 | Jayce^ | ahh, I used a different one that wound up going pay... never grabbed another |
| 20:43.36 | mrpull | I tried intelliscreen first |
| 20:43.38 | Jayce^ | still debating if I'm going 3gs... will sit on it a little |
| 20:43.42 | mrpull | it was nice, but unstable |
| 20:43.42 | Jayce^ | yeah, tried that |
| 20:43.45 | mrpull | and not free |
| 20:43.54 | mrpull | I was wishywashy on the 3gs |
| 20:44.01 | mrpull | until I found out I could get it for free |
| 20:44.03 | Jayce^ | you see the announcement about pricing? |
| 20:44.05 | mrpull | that sealed the deal |
| 20:44.52 | mrpull | I did see the update on the pricing. My work has enough lines that I can wiggle around upgrade timeframes. |
| 22:04.30 | levi | I'm probably going to shell out the $10 or whatever to upgrade my iPod Touch. |
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| 22:19.37 | eightyeight | maybe later |
| 22:20.30 | levi | Wow, photos from the 3GS actually look decent. |
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| 22:21.43 | levi | http://www.flickr.com/photos/andyi/sets/72157619833958006/show/ |
| 22:22.50 | eightyeight | what are the capabilities of the cg s? |
| 22:22.54 | eightyeight | s/cg/3g/ |
| 22:23.22 | eightyeight | in terms of photo taking, that is |
| 22:23.24 | levi | Not spectacular, but many of them look like they would make decent small prints. |
| 22:24.24 | eightyeight | 3 megapixels with autofocus |
| 22:24.35 | eightyeight | vga video with 30fps too |
| 22:24.41 | eightyeight | that's better than most phones |
| 22:24.43 | levi | It's a 3 megapixel sensor with some sort of autofocus, I think. |
| 22:24.54 | fozzmoo | Sounds like they're matching the Pre. :) |
| 22:25.27 | fozzmoo | I think the pre has a fixed focal length, though. |
| 22:25.52 | levi | You can also control what you're focusing on by touching the screen, and also choose the area that the exposure is metered from, too. |
| 22:32.56 | levi | I still can't make myself want to actually pay for a cell phone contract, though, so no cool smartphones for me. |
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| 22:55.57 | elg | ~land on europa |
| 22:56.06 | elg | -chat |
| 22:56.07 | brac | the queen has an answer to this other box running xp? |
| 22:56.53 | jsmith | -chat the guy |
| 22:56.54 | brac | the guy in a contract with Sprint. |
| 23:02.07 | levi | elg: Thanks to your blog post, I can now stop trying to find you when you're irc-awake to ask you why you picked Facebook. :) |
| 23:03.22 | elg | heh |
| 23:03.38 | elg | tries in vain to productively write a dissertation |
| 23:06.49 | eightyeight | it appears the htc magic has much of the same feature set as the 3gs |
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| 23:15.42 | eightyeight | http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/27/samsung-i7500-oled-handset-powered-by-android-dreams/ |
| 23:15.45 | brac | [Samsung I7500 with OLED touchscreen powered by Android, dreams] |
| 23:16.06 | eightyeight | i think that's the phone i'll hold out for, if i can convince myself |
| 23:16.50 | maquis | -chat |
| 23:16.50 | brac | but then I see them |
| 23:16.56 | maquis | -chat |
| 23:16.56 | brac | The one that works :-) |
| 23:17.04 | maquis | -chat |
| 23:17.05 | brac | but you don't have to say that G.W. Bush, for example, I could... |
| 23:17.14 | maquis | -chat |
| 23:17.15 | brac | dude's wife was addicted to wow, so i can get some real reforms to the corn is my needs were limited to the "War on Terror" |
| 23:17.39 | maquis | -chat |
| 23:17.40 | brac | warp drive |
| 23:17.42 | maquis | -chat |
| 23:17.42 | brac | your welcome :> |
| 23:17.46 | maquis | -chat |
| 23:17.46 | brac | I honestly feel that article as well |
| 23:30.14 | elg | world of war on terror craft |
| 23:35.01 | maquis | thinks that one of the players on nao must be a bot.... |
| 23:35.24 | sjansen | -chat elg wrote |
| 23:35.24 | brac | elg wrote an article on the upside, that class at the other day I did have a model |
| 23:35.38 | sjansen | -chat elg procrastinated |
| 23:35.39 | brac | elg procrastinated |
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