| 00:03.39 | maquis | :) |
| 00:03.53 | maquis | stderr: i didn't feel like justifying more than the XT... |
| 00:03.54 | maquis | :P |
| 00:11.26 | stderr | maquis: I hear ya |
| 00:11.37 | stderr | I had to swallow a couple times before I purchased the D90 |
| 00:12.16 | stderr | (which is in effect replacing my stolen D40) |
| 00:13.36 | maquis | ick |
| 00:13.54 | maquis | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:12.47 | Sargun | Where is the guy in here who makes techno music |
| 02:12.55 | Sargun | I want him to make me a custom ring tone |
| 02:13.32 | Sargun | if anyone has any clue who I'm talking about, tell me |
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| 02:22.45 | tensai | Sargun: that would be dilvie |
| 02:22.55 | Sargun | ~seen dilvie |
| 02:22.57 | ibot | dilvie <n=chatzill@c-67-166-126-92.hsd1.ut.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 215d 4h 15m 34s ago, saying: 'hi'. |
| 02:23.02 | Sargun | meh. |
| 02:23.04 | Sargun | damnit. |
| 02:25.31 | tensai | I think your chances were pretty slim anyway |
| 02:25.52 | tensai | just sample 20 seconds of your favorite song and call it good |
| 02:40.30 | Sargun | meh |
| 02:40.41 | Sargun | tensai, but imagine a jonathan coulton style song |
| 02:40.47 | Sargun | with my name |
| 02:40.53 | Sargun | and that could be my ring tone |
| 02:41.00 | Sargun | I would pay $150 for 3-4 ring tones |
| 02:41.55 | Sargun | tensai, http://www.merchdirect.com/SayAnything/?productid=9900 |
| 02:42.00 | Sargun | he's a fairly large "star" |
| 02:42.19 | tensai | here's a song about a psycho nut job. that's pretty close. http://www.jonathancoulton.com/2005/10/21/thing-a-week-6-someone-is-crazy/ |
| 02:43.12 | Sargun | -_- |
| 02:43.54 | tensai | has joco as his ringtone |
| 02:44.53 | tensai | you could get allison smith to record something, like "Hey, Sargun! Answer the stupid phone!" |
| 02:44.56 | tensai | http://www.theivrvoice.com/html/index.htm |
| 02:44.57 | brac | [Allison Smith Voice Over] |
| 02:47.22 | Sargun | tensai, I need grandeur |
| 02:47.49 | Sargun | I don't want a sultry, breathy delivery |
| 02:47.55 | Sargun | unless she moans it or something |
| 02:47.55 | Sargun | heh |
| 02:49.11 | Sargun | I kind of want someone with a gritty voice |
| 02:49.20 | Sargun | "yo, sargun, what's happening. Your phone is ringing" |
| 02:50.08 | Sargun | or if someone famous did it "Yo, sargun, this is Jonathan Coulton. PICKUP YOUR PHONE RIGHT NOW!" |
| 02:50.41 | tensai | here's moe syzlak for your answering machine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcWq5eWLdHo |
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| 02:51.57 | Sargun | tensai, but don't you think it's a good way for artists to make money |
| 03:06.01 | Tene | Sargun: my girlfriend's ring is me saying "Ring ring! Ring ring! Answer the phone! Ring?" |
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| 03:31.38 | levi | Good evening. |
| 03:32.40 | Sargun | good day |
| 03:36.05 | levi | Heh, the very end of http://www.theivrvoice.com/demos/ALLISONSMITH_ivr_demo.mp3http://www.theivrvoice.com/demos/ALLISONSMITH_ivr_demo.mp3 is funny. |
| 03:39.04 | zzzirk | . |
| 03:39.50 | tensai | there are some really great ones in the asterisk sounds directory |
| 03:40.26 | tensai | "we're off gambling and getting drunk" |
| 03:50.24 | tensai | ~lart narrowband audio |
| 03:50.24 | ibot | hurls dozens of incontinent, insomniac, hungry kittens with tiny little razor-sharp claws and a wide variety of contagious intestinal parasites at narrowband audio |
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| 05:27.26 | levi | elg: So, did you ever discover the secret to English Muffins? |
| 05:27.57 | elg | no, not exactly. it got put on hold |
| 05:28.10 | elg | but i have some hypotheses, and I have a perfectly serviceable recipe now |
| 05:28.20 | elg | it's just not as nook and cranny as the Thomas ones. |
| 05:28.21 | levi | Bummer. I got hooked on them after picking up a bunch from Costco a couple of weeks ago. |
| 05:28.41 | elg | want to give my hypothesis a try? |
| 05:29.11 | levi | My wife has gone all crazy over Weight Watchers stuff and didn't buy them this time because she couldn't find whole wheat ones, which would only be 1 point instead of 2. :P |
| 05:29.23 | elg | hehe |
| 05:29.26 | levi | What's the hypothesis? |
| 05:29.42 | elg | swaps it in |
| 05:29.59 | levi | (Instead she bought these mini-bagels which are only 1 point, but are tiny and kind of dry and not terribly bagel-like) |
| 05:30.59 | levi | I have a recipe in my Bread Baker's Apprentice book, of which pretty much all the stuff I've tried has been excellent, but the recipes tend to all take two days to make. |
| 05:31.30 | elg | so, you need big holes. I think the secret to big holes is 3 things: wet dough, minimal mechanical development (kneading, stirring, etc.), and (here's the hypothesis) chilled dough |
| 05:32.19 | levi | What's the reasoning on chilled dough? |
| 05:32.29 | elg | so if you mix the ingredients, drop them into a tupperware container, let them rise somewhat, then chill them overnight |
| 05:32.57 | elg | chilled dough = chilled CO2 = more expansion on the griddle |
| 05:33.09 | levi | That sound like pretty much all the recipes in my book. :) |
| 05:34.21 | elg | this recipe hasn't got me quite the big holes, but they are perfectly serviceable |
| 05:34.22 | elg | http://www.tablematters.com/index.php/pantry/dy/dymuffin |
| 05:34.43 | elg | that one doesn't do chilling, but you could do it tonight for breakfast tomorrow so it might be more convenient. |
| 05:35.15 | elg | the hardest part about them really is grill temperature. if you have an electric griddle you're way ahead of the game |
| 05:35.42 | elg | I think about 300° |
| 05:37.10 | elg | my test recipe is based on 100g flour. makes abt 3 muffins |
| 05:37.43 | elg | it's basically a bread dough but at high hydration. abt 90% |
| 05:37.56 | elg | or even 100% |
| 05:38.29 | elg | i have that pamphlet she refers to. one of these days I'll scan it in |
| 05:38.31 | elg | night |
| 05:40.47 | levi | So you think sticking it in the fridge over night is the secret? |
| 05:41.32 | tensai | AB did a muffin episode |
| 05:42.05 | tensai | can't recall the results |
| 05:42.56 | levi | I think I'll try putting that recipe together tomorrow night. I'm heading to bed now. |
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| 14:18.45 | ccjoe_ | ///win 1 |
| 14:48.39 | levi | Huh, apparently someone stole my credit card number. The bank just called me after a $0.20 transaction online to some Asian-sounding place. |
| 14:56.44 | elg | doesn't sound too lucrative |
| 14:56.56 | elg | if i were to steal your credit card, i'd buy more expensive stuff |
| 14:58.01 | elg | levi: I think the fridge is part of the key, but doing the fridge alone won't magically make big holes |
| 14:58.19 | elg | i tried AB's english muffins. thumbs down |
| 14:58.43 | elg | AB isn't much of a baker, TBH |
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| 15:08.32 | herlo | Fedora 11 is out! get it at http://get.fedoraproject.org :) |
| 15:10.40 | TehLaser | levi: some sort of ownership-verification charge? |
| 15:10.50 | TehLaser | Testing the card to see if it works? |
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| 15:22.25 | RyanE | Yeah, it's a common technique to run a small-value transaction, and if it goes through, *then* they make a few large value transactions and assume the card will be cancelled. |
| 15:27.52 | Jayce^ | missed the beginning of this convo... somebody got a card stolen? |
| 15:28.45 | RyanE | levi got a notice of a suspicious $0.20 transaction on his card from his bank. |
| 15:29.21 | Jayce^ | auth, or actually captured? |
| 15:29.39 | RyanE | Didn't say. |
| 15:29.50 | RyanE | 08:48 < levi> Huh, apparently someone stole my credit card number. The bank just called me after a $0.20 transaction online to some Asian-sounding place. |
| 15:29.59 | Jayce^ | lovely |
| 15:30.21 | Jayce^ | and yeah, the small transaction bit you mentioned is totally true.. |
| 15:30.55 | Jayce^ | but that small of one is interesting, since most merchant places will clear and AUTH on anything to 20 if it's a valid account, even if it's short funds.. |
| 15:31.04 | Jayce^ | so they really are trying to fly under the radar on scrubbing |
| 15:38.30 | RyanE | http://clarkhoward.com/liveweb/shownotes/2009/01/13/14899/?_form=1#comments |
| 15:42.30 | Jayce^ | discount hosting companies are a regular target for card scrubbing.. |
| 15:42.37 | Jayce^ | deal with lots of that |
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| 16:00.01 | elg | this is funny http://www.forbes.com/feeds/hscout/2009/06/09/hscout627867.html |
| 16:00.03 | brac | [Computers Causing Injuries in the Home - Forbes.com] |
| 16:00.32 | elg | maybe we're weird, but tripping on {toys,evil couches/chairs,clothes} seems to be much more of a problem in our house |
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| 16:29.23 | jshipley | It might just be (un)common sense, but wouldn't this problem disappear if computers were on good desks, with the cords tucked out of the way? |
| 16:31.55 | elg | naturally |
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| 16:57.14 | eightyeight | harleypig: heard about your son "introducing you" to iron maiden. awesome |
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| 17:04.54 | harleypig | heh |
| 17:05.05 | harleypig | I'm waiting for him to introduce me to Judas Priest |
| 17:06.14 | eightyeight | heh |
| 17:09.59 | stderr | that's awesome that your son independently discovered Iron Maiden. |
| 17:11.24 | harleypig | The funny thing is, he doesn't like the bands I introduce him to. So I'm just gonna step back and let him find the classics on his own. :>D |
| 17:11.31 | harleypig | errr ... :D |
| 17:11.52 | elg | broke your smiley's nose? |
| 17:17.51 | harleypig | heh |
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| 17:59.34 | goozbach | not every day that a direct download beats a well seeded torrent |
| 17:59.40 | goozbach | but that it has |
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| 18:09.02 | stderr | http://www.bpython-interpreter.org/ |
| 18:10.59 | sjansen | What makes bpython significantly better than ipython? |
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| 18:19.40 | stderr | sjansen: it's just cool. I haven't gone beyond toying with it yet. |
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| 18:44.51 | Sargun | hell yeah, I'm getting a touchstone tonight |
| 18:47.57 | sjansen | ~congratulate Sargun |
| 18:47.58 | ibot | ACTION congratulates Sargun on being a new owner of a $500 brick. |
| 18:48.34 | Sargun | ~lart sjansen |
| 18:48.34 | ibot | puts on a hockey mask and jumps out at sjansen |
| 18:49.10 | maquis | a touchstone? |
| 18:49.15 | maquis | is it cursed, uncursed or blessed? |
| 18:49.26 | maquis | and where you gonna get it? |
| 18:50.17 | sjansen | It's the wireless but touching recharger for the Palm Pre. |
| 18:51.12 | sjansen | Palm has made a very big deal of it. |
| 18:52.02 | sjansen | I don't know if it's a result of evil or incompetence, but the Palm Pre's recharger cover is very fiddly to open. |
| 18:52.28 | sjansen | It's obvious that Palm want to soak all Pre owners for the cost of a bulky, single purpose wart. |
| 18:53.23 | sjansen | Which might be fine if you always recharge at home, but for people who travel alot it hardly an attractive idea. |
| 18:54.13 | maquis | ah... |
| 18:54.18 | maquis | sounds like it's cursed, then |
| 18:54.20 | maquis | :P |
| 18:54.21 | Sargun | sjansen, there is a certain sexiness to the touchstone as well |
| 18:54.31 | maquis | only knows of touchstones in terms of nethack... so...) |
| 18:54.32 | Sargun | sjansen, Palm wants to license the touchstone technology to others |
| 18:55.25 | sjansen | Palm also wants to dance on the bleached bones of its competitors. I think both outcomes are equally likely. |
| 18:56.12 | Sargun | hehe |
| 18:56.24 | Sargun | sjansen, palm is one of the cuter companies in silicon valley |
| 18:56.28 | Sargun | with its antics and all |
| 18:56.33 | sjansen | As for being sexy.... I think it's about as sexy as weed wacker. Handy for some people, ridiculous looking to most, and hardly exciting either way. |
| 18:56.34 | TehLaser | assumes that that has to work by making a capacitor of the case. |
| 18:56.38 | TehLaser | Which is hardly a new idea. |
| 18:57.03 | maquis | palm is cute? |
| 18:57.13 | maquis | is really confused now |
| 18:57.36 | sjansen | TehLaser: It's no different than a transformer. Perhaps a little smarter to avoid wasting power. |
| 18:58.32 | sjansen | maquis: Don't think about it too hard. This is from the same person who thinks turning wall warts into desk warts is sexy. |
| 18:58.35 | TehLaser | Ah, induction then. |
| 18:58.55 | maquis | listens to her favorite song... |
| 18:59.10 | Sargun | maquis, which is? |
| 18:59.21 | sjansen | Yellow Submarine? |
| 18:59.25 | maquis | Sargun: "Pour Que Tu M'aimes Encore" by Il Divo |
| 18:59.52 | Sargun | sjansen, have you used the pre + touchstone? It's way more convenient than the stupid charging slot cover |
| 18:59.59 | maquis | i need to bug my mom again... she got one of the singers' autographs for me... and said she got a program from the concert she went to for me... |
| 19:00.40 | sjansen | Sargun: As it happens, yes I have. In case you didn't notice, I said I suspect the slot cover is a conspiracy to sell more warts. |
| 19:01.13 | maquis | (yes, it's my favorite music group, and my mom was the one who met 3 of the singers in a hotel and got an autograph for me, and my mom was the one who got to go to the concert last week... i'm not jealous... really) |
| 19:01.38 | Sargun | maquis, hehe |
| 19:01.54 | maquis | Sargun: thanks... |
| 19:02.04 | maquis | it's my mom's favorite group too, so i guess it's okay... but still... |
| 19:03.02 | maquis | (for any guys whose wives/girlfriends are fans, they're going to be performing in SLC soon...) |
| 19:04.09 | sjansen | ~define Il Divo |
| 19:04.09 | ibot | Use ~dict for definitions. |
| 19:04.16 | sjansen | ~dict Il Divo |
| 19:04.18 | maquis | ~wiki Il Divo |
| 19:05.18 | maquis | suggests actually going to the page |
| 19:05.31 | maquis | or looking them up on youtube to hear their music |
| 19:05.43 | sjansen | Bah, too lazy. |
| 19:05.55 | maquis | ... |
| 19:05.56 | maquis | ok |
| 19:06.22 | maquis | it's classical/opera style pop music in 4 languages... |
| 19:06.30 | maquis | that's a brief overview of their musical style :P |
| 19:06.32 | TehLaser | is waiting for recharging by microwave pulse, so we can just install pulsers everywhere. |
| 19:06.41 | TehLaser | And keep the devices wherever. |
| 19:07.05 | TehLaser | What? Cancer? What's that? |
| 19:11.13 | maquis | ordered more ink for her pens today! :) |
| 19:13.10 | sjansen | always licks his pens so that co-workers don't steal them |
| 19:14.14 | maquis | has never had problems with coworkers trying to steal her pens |
| 19:20.00 | sjansen | ~steal maquis's pens |
| 19:20.01 | ibot | ACTION grabs maquis's pens and gives it to sjansen |
| 19:20.27 | sjansen | You should have licked them. Now it's too late. |
| 19:22.35 | maquis | wonders if sjansen has any idea how to use a fountain pen... and decides that she's likely to get it back when he realizes he hasn't the slightest idea how to fill them up again |
| 19:23.03 | maquis | i only have one pen at work at any point in time, btw... |
| 19:23.23 | goozbach | sjansen: http://www.ehow.com/how_2177819_use-fountain-pen.html |
| 19:23.30 | maquis | i keep cheapo pens for others to use when they visit my desk |
| 19:28.18 | maquis | doesn't like cartridges, but the pen i'm using today has one in, simply cuz i didn't take the time to fill it last night |
| 19:28.38 | maquis | and i wanted blue ink, and i don't have a bottle of blue |
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| 20:34.44 | ^Migs^ | Has anyone come across a decent web-based embeddable SWF viewer? Basically a SWF that can view SWFs, as dumb as that sounds. I'm trying to make my own Slideshare-like site. I'm converting documents with OpenOffice + unoconv, but want some sort of interface to let users go back and forth between pages, since OO.org just makes the most basic SWF conversion. |
| 20:34.59 | ^Migs^ | might be able to figure something out with swftools |
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| 21:19.08 | beelzebob | quick! what's special about 4294967295? |
| 21:19.45 | beelzebob | starts his stopwatch |
| 21:20.13 | beelzebob | I found out what was special about it, but I wonder if anyone just recognizes it |
| 21:22.29 | sjansen | beelzebob: Other than being the largest value representable with a 32 bit unsigned integer? |
| 21:23.09 | sjansen | You know you're a programmer when... |
| 21:23.51 | sjansen | You consider 8, 32, 256, 1024, etc. to be nice round numbers. |
| 21:23.59 | maquis | heh |
| 21:24.02 | beelzebob | gives sjansen a gold star |
| 21:24.55 | beelzebob | it's also the value that vmstat shows for "processes wating for run time" on a certain virtual server I know. |
| 21:25.03 | TehLaser | is guilty of the "hmm... I can't be bothered to make this take any number of values, so I'll pick a power of two in hopes that I don't get blamed" techniquie. |
| 21:25.25 | sjansen | beelzebob: Here's one for you. On most systems, what are the largest and smallest values representable by a 32 bit _signed_ value. Why are they not symmetric? |
| 21:25.34 | sjansen | starts his stop watch |
| 21:25.47 | TehLaser | 2s compliment is the answer to part 2. |
| 21:26.56 | beelzebob | sjansen: I would imagine 0 breaks the symmetry |
| 21:27.53 | sjansen | beelzebob: Why does zero break the symmetry? (Or other words, what is TehLaser talking about?) |
| 21:28.52 | beelzebob | I actually watched a video explaining it just the other day |
| 21:29.28 | beelzebob | I meant to go back and go over it again |
| 21:29.35 | beelzebob | it = 2s compliment |
| 21:30.45 | sjansen | Two's compliment makes is possible to efficiently represent negative values without including both positive and negative zero. |
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| 21:32.53 | sjansen | Two's compliment also has the handy characteristic that any two integers (P+P, N+N, P+N) without special casing. |
| 21:33.09 | sjansen | s/two integers/two integers can be added/ |
| 21:33.21 | sjansen | likes playing with bits |
| 21:33.32 | beelzebob | doesn't seem very handy to me :) |
| 21:33.49 | beelzebob | when was the last time two's compliment unclogged my bathtub drain? |
| 21:33.50 | jsmith | It's actually quite handy |
| 21:34.25 | beelzebob | I'm sure it is for some situations |
| 21:34.36 | goozbach | wikipedia's two's compliment... |
| 21:34.48 | sjansen | Makes designing adder circuits in processors much easier. |
| 21:36.26 | maquis | remembers learning about 2's complement back in school. very cool stuff |
| 21:38.17 | sjansen | heh s/compliment/complement/ |
| 21:38.39 | maquis | :) |
| 21:39.04 | sjansen | maquis: You do have to admit, though, two's compliment also sounds like an interesting topic. |
| 21:39.18 | maquis | sjansen: i was just thinking about the types of compliments i would give to two... |
| 21:39.23 | maquis | but yeah |
| 21:39.41 | sjansen | My but you're looking especially binary today. |
| 21:40.52 | goozbach | ~groan sjansen |
| 21:41.20 | maquis | tries to remember where she saw the comic strip... "oh, you're using base 4 notation. i use base 10" "i use base 10. what is 4?" |
| 21:48.17 | goozbach | http://cowbirdsinlove.com/43 |
| 21:48.18 | brac | [Cowbirds in Love] |
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| 22:21.06 | maquis | goozbach: yes... that's the one :) |
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