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| 01:28.21 | brasto | ~phb |
| 01:28.22 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, phb is pointy-haired boss (from dilbert) |
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| 02:03.10 | findlay | hello |
| 02:06.32 | findlay | ~utos herlo |
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| 02:59.40 | findlay | -chat ~onjoin findlay |
| 02:59.41 | brac | ~onjoin findlay ~say -chat ~lart me for researching stuff. |
| 02:59.41 | ibot | brac: ok |
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| 03:18.35 | findlay | that's comcast for you |
| 03:18.43 | findlay | LagNetworks |
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| 04:35.37 | levi | Good evening. |
| 04:45.31 | RyanE | evening. |
| 04:52.41 | levi | How's it going? |
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| 05:00.52 | RyanE | good. |
| 05:01.11 | RyanE | just watching 'Cash Cab' and reading email. |
| 05:01.16 | RyanE | and you? |
| 05:02.55 | bonez46 | hello Ryan |
| 05:03.07 | RyanE | howdy |
| 05:16.07 | bonez46 | are you here a while, Ryan? |
| 05:16.27 | RyanE | you mean tonight, or in #utah for a number of years? |
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| 05:19.43 | bonez46 | I meant tonight |
| 05:20.07 | RyanE | I've been logged in all day, but I don't usually follow it... got to get some work done sometime... :) |
| 05:20.23 | bonez46 | I am trying to reconfigure my home lan.. I posted some questions last week and received several responses.. on the mailing list.. for PLUG |
| 05:20.42 | bonez46 | anyway, I posted and then it seemed like all the traffic and posts just died on the list.. |
| 05:20.49 | RyanE | Yeah, I remember the thread. |
| 05:21.04 | RyanE | multiple routers, or something along those lines, right? |
| 05:21.37 | bonez46 | did you see my last note, where I carefully laid out my configuration? I can only assume that the silence that followed that post indicated I had assumed the correct things and should just proceed.. |
| 05:22.07 | RyanE | Yeah, I kind of lost a bit of interest, I've been too busy, and it looked like you were in good hands. |
| 05:23.42 | bonez46 | ok.. are you a sysadmin or what do you do? |
| 05:24.09 | RyanE | I'm a programmer (or if you want to get fancy, "Software Engineer") |
| 05:28.40 | bonez46 | oh.. my. software engineer sounds so much more sophisticated |
| 05:29.49 | RyanE | Yeah, if you want to get snooty and all... :) |
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| 05:33.09 | levi | Bah, I prefer 'Programmer' to 'Software Engineer', even though my official title is the latter. :) |
| 05:33.24 | RyanE | Yeah, I go with programmer most of the time, too. |
| 05:34.02 | levi | I'm in the middle of craziness at work, so I haven't been around here much. |
| 05:34.23 | RyanE | audio sync? |
| 05:35.46 | levi | Well, I'm stuck in the middle of coordinating the efforts of several teams that are all using software and/or documentation I designed or wrote. |
| 05:36.16 | RyanE | It's like all the drawbacks of management and none of the perks... :) |
| 05:36.30 | levi | Along with trying to find and fix bugs, some of which may be hardware problems, and some of which may be from 3rd parties. |
| 05:37.37 | bonez46 | here's a trivial question.. I recently set up my Bose lifestyles 12 system.. after having it in storage. I am curious if I can just hook an output from my PC.. playing various .mp3 songs, directly to the aux input.. would/should something like that work? |
| 05:38.22 | RyanE | Sorry, don't know anything about Bose... Trying to keep it that way... :) |
| 05:38.29 | levi | It should work fine. |
| 05:38.31 | RyanE | That said, if it's a line level input, I don't know why it wouldn't work. |
| 05:39.03 | levi | You should really buy some quality JBL/Infinity/Harman Kardon gear. ;) |
| 05:39.29 | RyanE | If it has RCA inputs, you'd just need a 1/8" stereo mini to RCA cable. |
| 05:39.49 | RyanE | Available at any Radio Shack. |
| 05:40.24 | levi | Or, if you want something REALLY nice, some Revel speakers and Mark Levinson amplifiers. |
| 05:41.23 | levi | (these are all brands owned by the company I work for) |
| 05:41.38 | bonez46 | levi: what's wrong with BOSE? |
| 05:42.05 | RyanE | Or some old-style tube amps and some Wilson Audio speakers... :) |
| 05:42.10 | bonez46 | OH.. it's a company loyalty issue.. do you work for the Harmon group? |
| 05:42.16 | levi | Yes. |
| 05:42.20 | bonez46 | I see.. |
| 05:42.42 | RyanE | bonez46: I work in Home Automation, and they also do high-end audio, and none of them will touch Bose with a 10 foot pole. |
| 05:42.47 | levi | And Bose doesn't have a great name amongst audio enthusiasts, anyway. |
| 05:43.28 | levi | The nicest thing I have to say about them is that they have a great marketing department. ;) |
| 05:43.34 | RyanE | That they do |
| 05:44.04 | RyanE | bonez46: there's plenty of info on what Audiophiles think about Bose on the internet. |
| 05:44.45 | levi | But if your Bose sounds good to you and you're happy with it, that's what really matters. |
| 05:45.32 | bonez46 | well, it sounds fine to me.. and yeah, I don't have 5k or 10k or howevermanyk right now to set up a home audio system to rival carnegie hall so I'll keep listening to my BOSE until I strike it rich! |
| 05:45.36 | levi | My dad was happy when I upgraded his Bose system with a Harman Kardon receiver and an Infinity TSS-1200 home theater speaker system, though. :) |
| 05:46.30 | RyanE | if it works for you, more power to you. My stuff certainly isn't high-end, and I like it enough. |
| 05:46.46 | bonez46 | well, at some point I'll hire you to wire my new house.. how would that be Levi. with sound.. and fiber everywhere.. |
| 05:48.06 | RyanE | bonez46: you building a new house, or just thinking about somedaying it? |
| 05:48.21 | bonez46 | not building yet, but planning , within 5 years.. |
| 05:48.31 | bonez46 | I'll be around and keep you posted, nothing imminent |
| 05:48.52 | RyanE | We built our house about 10 years ago. |
| 05:48.59 | RyanE | plenty of wire... :) |
| 05:50.32 | levi | Ooh, I can finally get a HK Blu-ray player. |
| 05:51.18 | RyanE | I'd have to get some Blu-ray discs first... |
| 05:52.02 | levi | Nah, you can get them from Netflix. |
| 05:56.00 | levi | I only have a nice audio system because I get a really steep discount. |
| 05:56.51 | bonez46 | do you work here in Sandy? on frontage road there? |
| 05:57.27 | levi | TSS-1200 retails now for about $900, but I got it for $260. |
| 05:57.27 | levi | Yeah. |
| 05:59.06 | RyanE | nice |
| 05:59.33 | levi | The really high-end stuff is still crazy expensive, though. |
| 05:59.55 | RyanE | That's because it's made of unobtanium. |
| 06:00.12 | RyanE | Woo! Last comment of the day! |
| 06:00.18 | RyanE | And First! |
| 06:03.10 | levi | A single JBL S4800 would cost me $1336.99, though the only places I can find them online are at 9,999 British Pounds. |
| 06:04.08 | RyanE | I'm guessing you'd need two, right? |
| 06:04.14 | levi | Yeah. :) |
| 06:05.20 | levi | A single Infinity Prelude Forty would set me back $1308.00, but they have a suggested retail price of $6k. |
| 06:08.29 | levi | Anyway, time for me to sleep. |
| 06:08.48 | RyanE | later |
| 06:08.57 | bonez46 | thankks for your input |
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| 14:34.15 | tensai | gives kmail another try |
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| 15:19.41 | tensai | ok kmail. you can't segfault every 10 minutes. that just ain't gonna fly. |
| 15:22.07 | elg | ~mutt tensai |
| 15:22.24 | elg | or thunderbird, if you like point and clicky |
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| 15:27.04 | elg | ooh, chrome preview for linux and mac |
| 15:31.44 | goozbach | who here runs ubuntu? |
| 15:31.58 | elg | yo |
| 15:32.05 | goozbach | I'm wondering if there's an easily scriptable way of accessing the "growl" like interface |
| 15:32.14 | goozbach | the notification system which pops up in the corner |
| 15:32.32 | goozbach | ie growlme "hello world" |
| 15:33.45 | goozbach | NM I found it |
| 15:33.47 | JoshH | i wish i could make it stop showing the text of pidgin messages when the chat window isn't active |
| 15:33.51 | goozbach | notify-send "string" |
| 15:33.58 | RyanE | goozbach: I use OSD instead, but yeah, that would be nice. |
| 15:34.05 | RyanE | I may have to switch over. |
| 15:34.11 | JoshH | it's embarrassing when a coworker is at my desk, and my friend keeps im'ing me with details of his conquest the night before, even though the window is minimized |
| 15:34.42 | RyanE | JoshH: you need new friends... :) |
| 15:34.59 | JoshH | i need a lot of things |
| 15:35.15 | RyanE | Don't we all... :) |
| 15:36.04 | elg | which one? inotify? |
| 15:36.20 | JoshH | but in the meantime, if i could somehow disable pidgin support for that system, i'd be happy for now |
| 15:36.55 | elg | pidgin has preferences for that. dunno about a hotkey or anything |
| 15:37.18 | TehLaser | Nah, new coworkers would be better. |
| 15:37.18 | RyanE | Pidgin -> Tools -> Plugins and uncheck libnotify Popups |
| 15:37.27 | elg | adium (the rockingest IM client evar, but only osx) has per-awaystatus settings for growl |
| 15:37.29 | goozbach | JoshH: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NotifyOSD#Critical%20and%20non-critical%20queues%20and%20do-not-disturb%20mode |
| 15:37.31 | JoshH | i thought i did that |
| 15:37.32 | elg | and sound, etc. |
| 15:37.36 | RyanE | first google reply under "Disable Pidgin Notifies" |
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| 15:37.42 | JoshH | ya, i disabled sound long ago |
| 15:38.24 | JoshH | well, here's the thing |
| 15:38.37 | JoshH | i do want it to flash in the windowlist |
| 15:38.43 | JoshH | just not use the new system |
| 15:39.12 | JoshH | mayne the message notification plugin does that |
| 15:59.12 | RyanE | topic should be "Like Plug, but less top posting"... |
| 16:02.30 | *** topic/#utah by elg -> http://utos.org/irc | Log @ http://ibot.rikers.org/#utah | UTOSC - http://tinyurl.com/utosc2009-venue | Like Plug, but low fat |
| 16:04.18 | RyanE | elg: I don't know if I can agree with that topic today... Bagel Friday... :) |
| 16:04.20 | sjansen | "Like Plug, but Oh, look a shiny!" |
| 16:04.53 | tensai | bah, low fat. what a scam. |
| 16:05.17 | *** topic/#utah by elg -> http://utos.org/irc | Log @ http://ibot.rikers.org/#utah | UTOSC - http://tinyurl.com/utosc2009-venue | Like Plug, but with trans fats |
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| 16:30.03 | Jayce^ | awesome job search video! http://adage.com/globalnews/article?article_id=137076 |
| 16:30.10 | Jayce^ | and a brasileiro to boot |
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| 16:55.09 | sjansen | heh |
| 16:55.56 | sjansen | Sadly the subtitles are kind hard, and it loses something in translation. |
| 17:01.00 | sjansen | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:51.10 | Sargun_screen | I need you! |
| 17:51.18 | stderr | win 20 |
| 17:55.45 | Jayce^ | hands stderr a / key |
| 18:01.12 | stderr | pockets it |
| 18:04.39 | goozbach | lose 32 |
| 18:04.45 | goozbach | draw 15 |
| 18:06.21 | sjansen | ~groan goozbach |
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| 20:57.45 | {-} | How have I lived this long without noticing ethtool -p? |
| 20:58.47 | stderr | good question. |
| 20:59.39 | TehLaser | So *that's* how you're suppposed to do that. |
| 20:59.54 | TehLaser | always just pluged a port in and saw which inferface came up. |
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| 21:04.54 | goozbach | {-}: If I weren't a heterosexual male I might just kiss you on the lips. |
| 21:06.51 | stderr | well if you were a heterosexual European male you'd probably be fine |
| 21:07.25 | TehLaser | Whoops. I just told someone to run 'kill -USR1 `pidof dd`' without realizing he was running OS X, not GNU dd. |
| 21:07.36 | {-} | edges away from unum and goozbach just to be safe |
| 21:08.03 | TehLaser | wonders at people who run commands like "kill" that random IRCers suggest without bothering to understand the command first. |
| 21:08.42 | TehLaser | GNU dd, btw, prints status on USR1, but OS X uses SIGINFO for that, and dies on USR1. |
| 21:09.21 | unum | what did I do? |
| 21:09.30 | unum | is this because I'm single |
| 21:10.18 | Sargun | is single as well |
| 21:10.58 | Sargun | orgasms over {-} discovery |
| 21:11.06 | Sargun | It also causes the network to go down |
| 21:11.07 | Sargun | bah |
| 21:13.38 | {-} | ~hug yum |
| 21:13.39 | ibot | ACTION sneaks up on yum and suddenly hugs yum tightly |
| 21:18.16 | goozbach | I bet that {-} has Sargun on /ignore |
| 21:18.29 | goozbach | that kind of statement wouldn't go un answered |
| 21:18.30 | Sargun | probably |
| 21:18.33 | goozbach | normally |
| 21:18.35 | Sargun | ~lart {-} |
| 21:18.35 | ibot | hooks into a hydrant and hoses {-} down |
| 21:21.25 | tensai | well my computer is hosed now that I ran ethtool -p |
| 21:21.45 | jsmith-teaching | tensai: Can't be *that* hosed... you're still online |
| 21:22.03 | {-} | ~console tensai |
| 21:22.04 | ibot | ACTION gives tensai the consolation moose |
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| 21:22.10 | tensai | it is though. I can't start any new programs. they all hang when they try to access the network |
| 21:22.26 | jsmith | tensai: Running gnome? |
| 21:22.33 | tensai | yes |
| 21:22.37 | Sargun | Hahaha! |
| 21:22.38 | Sargun | :-P |
| 21:22.53 | Sargun | My SSH session went down |
| 21:23.02 | goozbach | tensai: you can't killall ethtool |
| 21:23.04 | goozbach | ? |
| 21:23.09 | Sargun | And then the magical failover fairy came and fixed everything ^_^ |
| 21:23.09 | goozbach | mayhaps it's blocking |
| 21:23.34 | tensai | oh, there we go. didn't even notice it was still running. |
| 21:23.39 | tensai | ~goozbach++ |
| 21:24.21 | tensai | weird thing is my ethernet port isn't even active, so it must have been blocking the whole network stack |
| 21:24.27 | tensai | even loopback was broken |
| 21:24.30 | goozbach | could be |
| 21:24.47 | goozbach | note to self, don't run that on a live production server |
| 21:25.12 | Sargun | weird. |
| 21:25.28 | Sargun | goozbach, I ran it on a server, and it didn't cause the whole thing to go down |
| 21:25.29 | tensai | oh I see why it kept running. I ran it from with an ssh over loopback. |
| 21:25.31 | {-} | So your tried it with an active IRC connection and prevented new connections but didn't kill IRC? |
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| 21:25.58 | tensai | {-}: yes. all my existing connections (mail, ssh, etc) stayed up. |
| 21:26.12 | Sargun | goozbach, do you have all your stuff configured with N+1 redundancy? |
| 21:26.19 | {-} | Nice. :-) |
| 21:32.08 | Tene | Hey, anyone here familiar with clonezilla |
| 21:33.58 | Tene | ? |
| 21:34.06 | efghph | yes - we use it all the time |
| 21:34.29 | Tene | I've got a set of three DVDs that a client sent to me labeled as "Clonezilla Format" |
| 21:34.47 | Tene | They're not bootable, and I can't quite figure out how to get clonezilla live to image from them |
| 21:35.19 | efghph | you need to create a clonezilla ISO and create a clonezilla boot CD |
| 21:35.31 | efghph | or download the ISO, I mean |
| 21:35.41 | Tene | I've got a "clonezilla live" ISO that I burned. Is that what I want? |
| 21:36.00 | tensai | anybody used tcpreplay? know if it supports udp, in spite of the name? |
| 21:36.34 | efghph | yes - then you can boot to on the machine you want to restore the disks to and copy the stuff from the DVD's to the new machine |
| 21:37.03 | {-} | tensai: I'm intrigued what you're trying to accomplish. |
| 21:37.47 | efghph | we use it to blast our linux images onto new servers |
| 21:37.56 | tensai | {-}: it's rather boring, in fact. I'm upgrading a radius server and want to make sure my new version will respond exactly like the old version. |
| 21:38.02 | Tene | efghph: so I've booted the system to clonezilla live... now I need to copy from the DVDs to the system? |
| 21:38.30 | efghph | it will overwrite anything on your existing hard drive(s) - is that what you want to do? |
| 21:38.42 | Tene | efghph: yes |
| 21:38.48 | efghph | it's used for bare metal recovery type stuff |
| 21:38.53 | Tene | Yes, exactly. |
| 21:39.24 | efghph | so now you should be able to point clonezilla to the DVD's and say put that image onto the computer you booted to |
| 21:40.05 | Tene | Okay, how do I point clonezilla to the DVDs? I booted it with the 'load to memory' option, so I could remove the clonezilla iso and insert the DVD. |
| 21:40.21 | Tene | I can't find anything in the menu that will actually recover from a disc, though |
| 21:41.09 | efghph | hrmmm - let me ping one of the guy's that works with me.... |
| 21:43.15 | efghph | you should be able to mount the DVDs on the Mount Clonezilla Image Directory screen |
| 21:43.49 | efghph | chose "local_dev" and select your DVD device |
| 21:44.07 | Tene | I don't have that as an option anywhere. |
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| 21:46.20 | efghph | my recolection is that it boots you up, asks some setup like screen resolution, then goes to the Mount Clonezilla image directory screen |
| 21:46.23 | efghph | what are you seeing? |
| 21:47.16 | Tene | I get resolution options at the bootloader, and then the first screen after booting is choosing language |
| 21:47.17 | tensai | {-}: for the record, tcpreplay is not tcp specific |
| 21:47.25 | Tene | then asks about keymap |
| 21:47.37 | tensai | it worked fine for icmp packets. presumably udp will work too. |
| 21:47.38 | Tene | then asks "Start Clonezilla" or "Enter shell" |
| 21:47.47 | Tene | "Enter shell" just drops me to a shell prompt |
| 21:47.49 | efghph | start clonezilla |
| 21:48.01 | Tene | Which asks me "device-image" or "device-device" |
| 21:48.29 | blendmaster1024 | when is the june PyUG meeting? what day i mean. i asked on #utahpython no responce yet |
| 21:48.47 | efghph | device-image |
| 21:49.05 | tensai | is so excited about tcpreplay |
| 21:49.14 | Tene | I have a "local_dev" option here, but the only options it will give me are the two existing hard drive partitions |
| 21:49.24 | Tene | doesn't give me an option for a disc |
| 21:49.31 | Tene | there's also ssh, samba, nfs, or shell |
| 21:50.16 | efghph | what kind of hard drive device is in the computer? |
| 21:50.24 | Tene | sata |
| 21:50.39 | Tene | so it shows me "sda1" and "sda2" |
| 21:50.49 | Tene | and my usb drive, sdb1 |
| 21:51.02 | Tene | but no optical drive |
| 21:51.04 | efghph | that's where you'll restore to |
| 21:51.42 | Tene | if I choose one of them, it asks me "Which directory holds the clonezilla image?" |
| 21:52.01 | efghph | yeah, it's not finding your DVD device for some reason |
| 21:52.03 | Tene | And if I choose anything, it tells me "That doesn't hold a clonezill abackup image", so I don't think that's what it's asking. |
| 21:52.16 | Tene | I can see the dvd from the shell just fine, and mount i tby hand |
| 21:52.33 | Tene | if I mount it on /home/partimag by hand, it claims that it's not a valid clonezilla backup |
| 21:53.30 | efghph | weird - not sure how/if you can verify that the image is actually good |
| 21:53.40 | Tene | I can mount it just fine. |
| 21:53.56 | Tene | The contents of the first disc are: disk* Info-dmi.txt* Info-lshw.txt* Info-packages.txt* parts* sda1.ntfs-ptcl-img.gz.aa* sda1.ntfs-ptcl-img.gz.ab* |
| 21:54.07 | Tene | second disc: sda1.ntfs-ptcl-img.gz.ab* sda1.ntfs-ptcl-img.gz.ac* |
| 21:54.09 | Tene | etc. |
| 21:55.02 | efghph | you may have to hit the clonezilla forum and see if they have any clues - the contents of the disks look valid to me |
| 21:55.19 | efghph | from what I recall |
| 21:55.49 | Tene | :/ |
| 21:55.56 | efghph | yeah, sorry |
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| 21:56.34 | Tene | Asking google about "Mount Clonezilla Image Directory" returns hits about "Clonezilla-sysresccd": http://clonezilla-sysresccd.hellug.gr/ |
| 21:56.37 | brac | [Clonezilla-SysRescCD] |
| 21:56.48 | Tene | Is that something I should be trying instead? |
| 21:57.14 | blendmaster1024 | when is the june PyUG meeting? what day i mean. i asked on #utahpython no responce yet |
| 21:57.20 | blendmaster1024 | for that matter here either |
| 21:57.58 | efghph | haven't used that one |
| 21:58.43 | efghph | that just looks like what you already have, plus some disk resue tools |
| 21:58.51 | efghph | don't think you need those |
| 21:59.46 | blendmaster1024 | got an answer on #utahpython nvm |
| 22:01.21 | efghph | maybe copy those DVDs to another device and see if you can do the restore via ssh, samba or USB |
| 22:01.33 | rsimpkins | orodruin.plug.org is sick. |
| 22:01.54 | rsimpkins | Looks like we might have some downtime. :( |
| 22:02.38 | efghph | I have had any restore issues, but we almost exclusively use it to blast the same image to the same server hardware |
| 22:02.50 | efghph | "have not had" that is |
| 22:04.10 | efghph | Must jump into a conference call - gotta run for a bit |
| 22:06.53 | Tene | efghph: can you tell me what filenames I should use for the isos I ripped to get clonezilla to recognize them? |
| 22:07.38 | *** topic/#utah by rsimpkins -> http://utos.org/irc | Log @ http://ibot.rikers.org/#utah | UTOSC - http://tinyurl.com/utosc2009-venue | PLUG server currently down. No ETA on uptime. Possible failed disk. |
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| 22:20.58 | rsimpkins | PLUG is down for the count. :( |
| 22:21.18 | tensai | d'oh |
| 22:21.32 | rsimpkins | It is a really old server. |
| 22:21.43 | tensai | rsimpkins: didn't I once offer to donate a server to you guys? |
| 22:22.15 | rsimpkins | tensai: Sure did. |
| 22:22.28 | tensai | yeah, I think it was this noisy sucker here. it's still available. actually I'll be in utah next weekend if you want it. |
| 22:27.17 | rsimpkins | tensai: I believe we should consider that. |
| 22:27.46 | rsimpkins | I'm going to run over there and see if they'll let me in. |
| 22:30.25 | Sargun | xmission? |
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| 22:47.03 | rsimpkin1 | is on the datacenter floor, ircing from plug server. |
| 22:47.17 | rsimpkin1 | can someone please check plug.org to ensure it looks like it is working? |
| 22:47.31 | peno | works for me |
| 22:47.37 | rsimpkin1 | no warnings? |
| 22:47.43 | peno | didn't see any |
| 22:48.17 | rsimpkin1 | Great, thank you. Looks like I've resurrected orodruin to live another day. |
| 22:51.10 | Sargun | hahah |
| 22:54.15 | rsimpkins | All I can say is Center7++ for NOC techs that do not fit the stereotype. |
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