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| 00:44.06 | Imortallis | as far as I know, there is no LUG in my area. How would I go about creating a LUG? |
| 00:44.22 | Tene | Imortallis: where are you? |
| 00:44.59 | Tene | Imortallis: Make a website, mailing list, IRC channel, whatever. Send mail to potentially interested groups. Ask around at local inuversities is often helpful. |
| 00:48.05 | Imortallis | I live in Vernal, it's in the North East corner of the state if you don't know |
| 00:50.09 | Imortallis | There was at one time UBLUG (Uintah Basin LUG), but I think that has long since died out. |
| 00:50.18 | Imortallis | Tene: THanks for the ideas |
| 00:50.22 | Tene | :) |
| 00:50.34 | Tene | I look forward to seeing your announcement on PLUG and SLLUG mailing lists. |
| 00:51.59 | Imortallis | Thanks, I look forward too. Sinse school is out (finally) hopefully I can put most of my time into this ^_^ |
| 01:06.54 | Imortallis | so how would i go about setting up and IRC Channel? |
| 01:41.23 | neybar_home_ | pretty much just /join a channel. If it didn't exist before, then it will when you join in |
| 01:41.44 | neybar_home_ | so /join #vernal-lug or what ever name pleases you. |
| 01:43.59 | Tene | I just got inter-language library loading on parrot working with scheme earlier today. Now I'm working on TCL. |
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| 03:25.34 | elg | ~burn tensai |
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| 04:21.34 | levi | Good evening. |
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| 05:28.08 | bonez46 | got a network topology setup question.. follow up to posts on the newslist from Friday.. |
| 05:29.05 | bonez46 | ne1? |
| 05:35.17 | bonez46 | ibot? |
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| 15:00.26 | ibot | <(*.*<) <(*.*)> \(*.*)/ (>*.*)> |
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| 15:49.38 | sjansen | ~rlart |
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| 16:05.22 | elg | ~rlart |
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| 16:05.33 | elg | that'll teach him |
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| 16:55.50 | elg | last titanic survivor dead |
| 16:57.42 | jsmith-teaching | As are a bunch of people flying from Brazil to France, apparently :-( |
| 16:59.13 | tensai | is it morbid monday? |
| 17:00.40 | toofer | It's not Monday; it's funday! |
| 17:01.57 | Sargun | I HATE MYSQL. |
| 17:01.59 | Sargun | DIE DIE DIE |
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| 17:05.57 | jsmith-teaching | Sargun: What, you have a good MySQL story to tell? |
| 17:06.10 | Sargun | Kind of. We have two mySQL servers |
| 17:06.22 | Sargun | I accidentally hit control C on the master server |
| 17:06.33 | Sargun | and now it has broken replication |
| 17:06.52 | Sargun | the only way to fix it is by running a multi-hour process that makes the server unavailable |
| 17:07.19 | jsmith-teaching | had "myisamchk" once take 12 days to run |
| 17:07.24 | Sargun | oh, god. |
| 17:07.41 | jsmith-teaching | Don't blame him... blame MySQL! |
| 17:08.13 | Sargun | The previous admin noticed such a huge performance difference between innodb and MyISAM that he wrote a script every night that would move the data from the innodb to a isam table |
| 17:09.41 | Sargun | all of the reads on run the isam table, said reads push directly into the accounting data |
| 17:09.49 | Sargun | if said reads fail, uhm, everything fails |
| 17:11.21 | tensai | is yum supposed to be so slow to calculate an upgrade? |
| 17:13.09 | sjansen | Depends on how big the upgrade is and what you mean by "so slow". |
| 17:13.25 | sjansen | I have seen very large changesets take several minutes. |
| 17:14.32 | sjansen | Generally it should take between 30 to 60 seconds. I've seen it take up to about 5 minutes. More than that and I'd start to wonder, unless the hardware is pretty old. |
| 17:15.11 | Sargun | tensai, "fast package manage" = oxymoron |
| 17:15.36 | TehLaser | I've been using gentoo lately, so "several minutes" seems rather quick. |
| 17:15.44 | tensai | well, ok. the hardware is pretty old. but no older than my debian hardware. |
| 17:15.56 | tensai | takes 3-4 minutes I'd say |
| 17:16.17 | Sargun | loves apt |
| 17:16.22 | tensai | and since the default is N, I told it to cancel so I had to try it again |
| 17:16.25 | Sargun | TehLaser, I use Gentoo as well, emerge is fast enough |
| 17:17.05 | elg | heh |
| 17:17.45 | elg | ~lart old hardware |
| 17:17.45 | ibot | takes a large goose feather pillow and swings it wildly in old hardware's direction, hitting old hardware and sending old hardware flying into the closet |
| 17:18.52 | TehLaser | I remember recompiling X and associated libs on gentoo on some old hardware many years ago and having it take two days. |
| 17:19.23 | tensai | but think of the seconds you saved every time you ran it! |
| 17:19.25 | TehLaser | Not really the best distro for an old machine. |
| 17:20.20 | TehLaser | Bah, I don't really care about the optimization. |
| 17:20.35 | elg | whips out the story of how he tried to do linux from scratch (pre-gentoo) and failed because his cpu had a stupid price sticker on it and kept overheating, causing the compiles to mysteriously fail |
| 17:21.07 | TehLaser | I was using gentoo because apt kept breaking everything in debian unstable. |
| 17:21.49 | TehLaser | Or kept installing broken stuff anyway. |
| 17:28.08 | tensai | well yeah, if you're going to run unstable |
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| 17:29.10 | TehLaser | That's why I started on gentoo. More up to date than stable debian, more stable than unstable debian. |
| 17:29.28 | elg | that's what debian testing is for |
| 17:30.00 | JoshH | gentoo is for ricers |
| 17:30.24 | JoshH | and people who have incredible patience |
| 17:30.42 | elg | sings "There's a great big beautiful tomorrow" until it's stuck in sjansen's head |
| 17:31.03 | TehLaser | This was before testing existed, I think. |
| 17:31.07 | TehLaser | Or at any rate I didn't know about it. |
| 17:31.14 | sjansen | Gentoo is a great learning experience for people with plenty of free time. |
| 17:31.27 | tensai | I did the same before testing existed. and then I used testing until ubuntu came around. |
| 17:31.45 | sjansen | I'm thankful for the time I spent on Gentoo, although it did nothing positive for my grade is did prepare me for my current job. |
| 17:31.59 | tensai | sjansen: and how do you feel about running servers on gentoo? :P |
| 17:32.01 | Sargun | sjansen, which is? |
| 17:32.09 | sjansen | Guru. |
| 17:32.15 | Sargun | I use gentoo because I get to control every little thing. |
| 17:32.26 | JoshH | the gentoo install can be a decent learning experience for someone capable of knowing what is happening, but who isn't too familiar with linux |
| 17:32.32 | Sargun | and I don't have to touch applications A, B, and C in order to manipulate application D. |
| 17:32.33 | elg | funny, that's the same reason I'm a dictator of a small country |
| 17:32.40 | JoshH | the rest is a pointless |
| 17:32.49 | sjansen | I think running Gentoo on a personal server is a recipe for educational pain. I think running Gentoo on a work is server borders on fraud. |
| 17:32.55 | JoshH | what little things do you get to control that makes it worth it? |
| 17:32.58 | TehLaser | Nah, learning how to fix broken stuff is good experience. :) |
| 17:33.08 | Sargun | JoshH, -O3 |
| 17:33.08 | sjansen | s/borders/is insane, bordering/ |
| 17:33.19 | JoshH | all the supposed advantages of gentoo have been thoroughly debunked |
| 17:33.25 | Sargun | sjansen, I run Gentoo on my workstations at work... |
| 17:33.29 | JoshH | what does -03 get you on 99 percent of software? |
| 17:33.40 | TehLaser | JoshH: use flags. |
| 17:33.42 | Sargun | it's O |
| 17:33.49 | Sargun | Compiler flags, which DO help. |
| 17:33.52 | Sargun | USE flags. |
| 17:34.01 | sjansen | Running Gentoo on a work system might be appropriate for certain types of developers. |
| 17:34.02 | Sargun | being able to mix and match software versions. |
| 17:34.04 | JoshH | if it helps for something, there's always apt-build |
| 17:34.12 | Sargun | Really nice configuration files (baselayout) |
| 17:34.14 | JoshH | for most stuff, it doesn't help at all |
| 17:34.30 | Sargun | prefers gentoo's networking configuration compared to debian and RH |
| 17:34.46 | JoshH | i hate every config method but debian's |
| 17:35.07 | Sargun | RH's configuration syntax was written by someone lacking foresight |
| 17:35.48 | JoshH | the syntax isn't the problem |
| 17:35.58 | JoshH | it's just less simple and perfect |
| 17:35.58 | sjansen | RH's configuration is more than adequate, but does shove its extensibility in your face. |
| 17:36.07 | sjansen | s/does/doesn't/ |
| 17:36.39 | sjansen | Frankly, as far as I'm concerned anything that doesn't involve YaST or SuSEconfig is more than adequate. |
| 17:37.25 | JoshH | gentoo's networking file, even if you like it, hardly makes it worth using the distro |
| 17:37.51 | sjansen | I can survive just fine on RH or Debian systems. I can even survive on a SUSE system as long as I don't try to do something SUSE's engineers didn't plan for. Then I feel like punching someone. |
| 17:40.13 | TehLaser | My two Gentoo boxes right now are both headless, so -X. |
| 17:40.22 | TehLaser | That's reason enough to run gentoo. |
| 17:40.33 | TehLaser | The other one is in a dinky VM, so it's -Os. |
| 17:40.37 | TehLaser | (another good reason) |
| 17:41.00 | JoshH | no x is a reason to run gentoo? |
| 17:41.00 | TehLaser | er, s/The other one /One of them/ |
| 17:41.36 | Sargun | I don't have to install a -devel library for everything |
| 17:41.49 | Sargun | I can run it on a 386. |
| 17:42.16 | TehLaser | In that much of the software I tend to use on it has optional GUI stuff that usually requires X libs to link against, even if they never run, on other distros. |
| 17:42.48 | Sargun | Can you run RHEL5 on a 386? No. |
| 17:42.59 | JoshH | who owns a 386? |
| 17:43.06 | JoshH | debian does run on it though |
| 17:43.28 | TehLaser | I think the box that took days to compile X was a 486, actually. |
| 17:43.47 | JoshH | my debian servers have no x related packages installed |
| 17:43.48 | TehLaser | Might have been a Pentium I though. |
| 17:43.58 | JoshH | web/database/vpn/etc stuff, don't know what your servers do though |
| 17:44.15 | Sargun | JoshH, I have a 486 |
| 17:44.28 | TehLaser | It isn't really a server. |
| 17:44.33 | ^Migs^ | What's a nice romantic restaurant in Salt Lake City? |
| 17:44.50 | JoshH | you only need -dev packages if you are going to be compiling something not in the package manager, and if that's the case, it's easy enough to get the dev packages |
| 17:44.56 | ^Migs^ | Need a good place for my anniversary. It's actually today, but we're not going out until Wednesday. |
| 17:44.57 | JoshH | what kind of cuisine, ^Migs^ |
| 17:45.09 | ^Migs^ | Anything would probably work, but she'd probably like Italian |
| 17:45.09 | TehLaser | Has my miniDV camcorder plugged into it now, mostly using it as a capture/burn box. |
| 17:45.16 | ^Migs^ | she's not a huge fan of Japanese |
| 17:45.44 | JoshH | tuscany, lugano, michelangelos are decent |
| 17:46.17 | ^Migs^ | what about somewhere non-Italian? |
| 17:46.28 | ^Migs^ | like, just "American" |
| 17:46.38 | ^Migs^ | I don't know...something different |
| 17:46.48 | Sargun | McDonalds? |
| 17:46.50 | JoshH | if your bank account is amazing, spencers |
| 17:46.59 | JoshH | or metropolitan |
| 17:47.07 | JoshH | actually |
| 17:47.12 | JoshH | go to log haven in millcreek canyon |
| 17:47.29 | ^Migs^ | I would do Log Haven, except that we're going there for a wedding dinner in a couple weeks |
| 17:47.55 | JoshH | flemings prime steakhouse |
| 17:48.48 | TehLaser | I rather like the diner-in-a-canyon things with good views and patios. |
| 17:49.03 | TehLaser | Food's not great, but they're different. |
| 17:49.23 | ^Migs^ | I do want somewhere with a good view. Maybe we should Log Haven anyway. |
| 17:49.24 | TehLaser | There's one up emmigration canyon, I believe. |
| 17:49.36 | JoshH | ruths is up there |
| 17:49.38 | JoshH | just reopened |
| 17:49.40 | ^Migs^ | hmmm |
| 17:49.43 | JoshH | not exactly annivarsary material though |
| 17:49.54 | TehLaser | Depends on the spouse. |
| 17:49.59 | ^Migs^ | maybe I don't need to go to Salt Lake City. Back when we were dating, I took her to Gray Cliff Lodge up in Ogden Canyon. We've never been back since. |
| 17:50.03 | JoshH | well, he said romantic |
| 17:50.10 | Sargun | isn't a huge fan of ruth's |
| 17:50.19 | JoshH | you've never been to utah Sargun |
| 17:50.35 | JoshH | and if you have, you probably ate at mcdonalds |
| 17:51.07 | Sargun | What does the quality of ruth's have to do with utah |
| 17:51.08 | TehLaser | Silly and fun can be plenty of romantic. |
| 17:51.09 | Sargun | they're a chain |
| 17:51.12 | ^Migs^ | maybe I should book a B&B |
| 17:51.14 | JoshH | ^Migs^: the vast majority of "nice" restaurants in utah are in slc or park city |
| 17:51.17 | TehLaser | Ours isn't, Sargun. |
| 17:51.21 | ^Migs^ | I don't know if my parents would be willing to take the baby overnight, though |
| 17:51.25 | JoshH | i'm not too sure what's outside of my slc safety zone |
| 17:51.26 | Sargun | agrees with TehLaser, silly and romantic |
| 17:51.28 | ^Migs^ | they can't, actually, so nm |
| 17:51.33 | JoshH | i know that roosters in ogden is awesome though |
| 17:51.43 | Sargun | TehLaser, you mean ruth's chris, right? |
| 17:51.45 | JoshH | been there once |
| 17:51.48 | TehLaser | Sargun: no. |
| 17:51.51 | JoshH | ruths diner |
| 17:51.52 | Sargun | oh, nevermind then. |
| 17:51.57 | JoshH | a good breakfast place |
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| 17:52.03 | JoshH | ruths chris is in park city |
| 17:52.46 | lakshmi | hi |
| 17:53.13 | JoshH | ^Migs^: the main questions are, how much do you want to spend, and what kind of food do you want |
| 17:53.33 | JoshH | i assume you don't care about the wine selection |
| 17:54.31 | ^Migs^ | I don't want to spend more than $100 |
| 17:54.37 | ^Migs^ | probably not, JoshH |
| 17:54.39 | Sargun | ^Migs^, :-/ |
| 17:54.49 | ^Migs^ | even $100 is pushing it, but it's our anniversary |
| 17:54.52 | Sargun | What anniversary is this? |
| 17:54.57 | ^Migs^ | 8th |
| 17:55.01 | JoshH | i'd say spencers at the hilton |
| 17:55.10 | ^Migs^ | maybe $100 is too much. $75 tops. |
| 17:55.12 | JoshH | it will cost you about 70-80, if you tip nicely |
| 17:55.17 | ^Migs^ | hmmm |
| 17:55.22 | Sargun | Ok, so it's just a Fibonacci number |
| 17:55.30 | Sargun | Fibonacci and even. |
| 17:55.49 | TehLaser | I'm not sure what the prices are like at Bambara, but they've been good before. |
| 17:56.16 | lakshmi | hi Sargun ! |
| 17:56.20 | ^Migs^ | oo, this looksg ood |
| 17:56.26 | ^Migs^ | Bambara, that is |
| 17:56.32 | JoshH | bambara is good |
| 17:56.35 | JoshH | but you have to know a lot about food |
| 17:56.38 | Sargun | ^Migs^, really, what's the difference between $100, and $150? $50, right? Skip your latte 25 times, and it'll make up for it |
| 17:56.47 | JoshH | i always have to ask the waiter what stuff is there |
| 17:56.51 | ^Migs^ | I like the menu |
| 17:57.13 | lakshmi | heh, what kinda food are you guys gunna get?. |
| 17:57.39 | JoshH | if you want romance and don't mind cooking your own food, chicks really love the melting pot |
| 17:57.46 | ^Migs^ | melting pot? |
| 17:57.48 | lakshmi | ooh |
| 17:57.50 | JoshH | fondue place |
| 17:57.52 | lakshmi | fondue |
| 17:58.00 | JoshH | on main and around 3rd |
| 17:58.19 | JoshH | going there gaurantees that you will get laid |
| 17:58.22 | lakshmi | cooking your own food is actually quite entertaining on its own |
| 17:58.22 | Sargun | haha |
| 17:58.47 | Sargun | except you smell like meat afterwards, so be careful. |
| 17:58.52 | lakshmi | JoshH isn't there always that guarentee after a really nice dinner and anniversary |
| 17:59.07 | JoshH | obviously you aren't married |
| 17:59.16 | ^Migs^ | do you have to, like, interact with strangers? |
| 17:59.36 | ^Migs^ | because we don't like socializing |
| 17:59.46 | JoshH | you will have a waiter that brings you out different kinds of meat and cheese or whatever you order, then you cook it in the fondue pots |
| 18:00.10 | ^Migs^ | oh cool |
| 18:00.21 | JoshH | and |
| 18:00.23 | ^Migs^ | and that's a 100% guarantee? |
| 18:00.27 | JoshH | it will probably be under 60 |
| 18:00.40 | JoshH | 100 percent |
| 18:01.04 | ^Migs^ | nice |
| 18:01.05 | harleypig | So, JoshH what will do if he doesn't get laid? |
| 18:01.06 | ^Migs^ | k, I'm doing that |
| 18:01.12 | ^Migs^ | yeah, I'll demand a refund. I hope you know that. |
| 18:01.32 | JoshH | you would have to screw up pretty badly afterward |
| 18:01.51 | lakshmi | haha |
| 18:01.53 | JoshH | just don't let her get too full/sick, the cheese is pretty rich |
| 18:02.02 | lakshmi | i don't think getting laid is really that hard you guys! |
| 18:02.12 | ^Migs^ | you forget who you're talking to here, lakshmi |
| 18:02.18 | lakshmi | specially when it's anniversary + nice meal |
| 18:02.19 | JoshH | when you're married, you need to increase your odds any way you can |
| 18:02.30 | lakshmi | being married cannot suck that bad |
| 18:02.35 | lakshmi | where you have to increase your odds |
| 18:02.38 | JoshH | just wait |
| 18:02.39 | Sargun | Aren't you mormon, aren't you guys supposed to have crazy amounts of sex? |
| 18:02.43 | ^Migs^ | k I have a stupid question. What exactly is fondue? |
| 18:02.45 | lakshmi | and bet on shit |
| 18:02.52 | Sargun | ^Migs^, melted cheese and stuff |
| 18:02.53 | ^Migs^ | keep in mind I'm a country bumpkin from Roy, Utah |
| 18:02.54 | lakshmi | it's the verb to dip? |
| 18:02.55 | Sargun | :-P |
| 18:03.05 | JoshH | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fondue |
| 18:03.06 | Sargun | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fondue |
| 18:03.08 | lakshmi | so you dip bread in cheese |
| 18:03.13 | lakshmi | and fruits in chocolate |
| 18:03.19 | lakshmi | andthen you cook meat. |
| 18:03.20 | ^Migs^ | gotcha |
| 18:03.33 | lakshmi | try to get a weird animal |
| 18:03.43 | lakshmi | everyone loves when you start ordering like a crocodile or something |
| 18:03.52 | ^Migs^ | Sargun: Sometimes you just have to feign sexual deprivation to make everyone else feel better |
| 18:04.04 | lakshmi | or like a gazelle |
| 18:05.06 | lakshmi | techno music sucks. |
| 18:05.08 | stderr | mmm fondue |
| 18:05.22 | Sargun | http://sargun.smugmug.com/gallery/6985772_VnPFC#450429134_LihPa-A-LB |
| 18:05.23 | lakshmi | gah. it's just scary amounts of bored ppl making music |
| 18:05.26 | JoshH | if you aren't mormon, a few glasses of wine definitely does boost your chances |
| 18:05.45 | lakshmi | oh |
| 18:05.49 | lakshmi | scary menues! |
| 18:05.51 | lakshmi | i member that one |
| 18:06.08 | ^Migs^ | k, melting pot it is, then |
| 18:06.12 | ^Migs^ | she'll love it |
| 18:06.24 | ^Migs^ | OR ELSE |
| 18:06.55 | JoshH | good luck |
| 18:07.00 | JoshH | you'll like it |
| 18:07.21 | ^Migs^ | oo, you can make reservations online |
| 18:07.38 | ^Migs^ | oh, nm: We are experiencing difficulties with the Internet connection and are unable to process your request. Please call (801) 521-6358 to make a reservation or an inquiry. We apologize for any inconvenience. |
| 18:07.48 | Sargun | haha |
| 18:07.50 | elg | bait and switch |
| 18:08.05 | ^Migs^ | they better give me, like, 20% off for the inconvenience |
| 18:08.19 | JoshH | i think i paid 53 total the one time i went theres |
| 18:08.32 | ^Migs^ | that's reasonable |
| 18:08.35 | JoshH | so if youre looking at "75 tops", that's a nice thing to know |
| 18:08.36 | elg | why would mormons have "crazy amounts of sex"? or are you just extrapolating back from the babies? |
| 18:08.46 | ^Migs^ | yeah, i don't know, elg |
| 18:08.56 | ^Migs^ | "crazy amounts of no birth control" perhaps |
| 18:08.57 | elg | i mean, if we outlawed TV or something |
| 18:09.13 | ^Migs^ | but it doesn't take much to get preggers |
| 18:09.28 | JoshH | tell me about it |
| 18:09.53 | elg | well, JoshH, it's all about the timing |
| 18:10.07 | JoshH | wow, speaking of wives |
| 18:10.11 | JoshH | andrei kirilenko has it made |
| 18:10.13 | JoshH | http://www.sltrib.com/athome/ci_12479584?source=rv |
| 18:10.38 | ^Migs^ | lol, his wife is a media whore |
| 18:10.43 | ^Migs^ | maybe that's a harsh term |
| 18:10.45 | ^Migs^ | apt, but harsh |
| 18:14.25 | TehLaser | Hmm... coming up on 5 year "first date" anniversary this month. |
| 18:14.44 | ^Migs^ | I have a huge plan for our 10 year anniversary |
| 18:14.59 | TehLaser | Wait... hmm... |
| 18:15.14 | TehLaser | A poor memory is a pretty bad handicap in marriage. |
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| 18:15.25 | JoshH | write a program to send yourself reminder emails |
| 18:15.51 | TehLaser | Doesn't really help if I can't remember the dates to put into the program. :P |
| 18:16.51 | TehLaser | needs a wiki to keep track of the "important" stuff. |
| 18:36.15 | maquis | TehLaser: you celebrate "first date" anniversaries? |
| 18:36.48 | maquis | i know our wedding was close to being the 1-year for our first date... but i don't actually know the exact date of the first date... i'd have to look that up... |
| 18:37.54 | TehLaser | We didn't really have dates so much, so its more just the month we started being together. |
| 18:38.22 | ^Migs^ | http://www.superiorfakedegrees.com/ |
| 18:38.23 | brac | [Fake Degrees | Fake Diplomas Certificates | Fake Passport | Birth & Marriage Certificates | Legal Diploma & Passports] |
| 18:39.18 | ^Migs^ | "I have a new job, thanks to my diploma I received from Superior Fake Degrees. Highly recommended." Frank Thomas - Ausbury Park, New Jersey, USA. |
| 18:39.19 | ^Migs^ | hahahaha |
| 18:39.58 | elg | gets out of first date and such because my wife turned me down on the first date |
| 18:40.23 | elg | and she called off the first engagement |
| 18:40.51 | elg | so i just have to remember anniversary |
| 18:40.53 | elg | :) |
| 18:42.19 | maquis | i've always wanted to go to the melting pot... never been there, though... |
| 18:42.29 | maquis | pokes thesuperbigfrog |
| 18:42.43 | maquis | :) |
| 18:43.21 | elg | do they have froglegs there? |
| 18:43.40 | elg | what do you dip frog legs in i wonder |
| 18:43.46 | maquis | no idea |
| 18:44.28 | elg | maybe it's BYOF |
| 18:48.08 | TehLaser | isn't melting pot mostly hot oil? |
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| 19:05.38 | maquis | TehLaser: lots of hot cheese, too |
| 19:06.09 | TehLaser | Anyone know the name of a Free DVD-Video menu editing program that runs in Linux? |
| 19:07.04 | TehLaser | I've seen a few, but they look like abandonware in alpha stages. |
| 19:10.01 | sjansen | maquis: I recommend a large-ish group for the melting pot. Enough to ensure lively conversation while waiting for food to cook. |
| 19:10.44 | Jayce^ | and plan for it to be the evening... |
| 19:10.54 | Jayce^ | eg, plan for a good 4 hours there if you are doing the full meal |
| 19:11.37 | elg | TehLaser: if you find one let me know |
| 19:11.52 | elg | last i looked there wasn't squat. best bet was the very tedious manual process using dvdauthor |
| 19:12.37 | TehLaser | Maybe I'll get motivated and write one. But likely not. |
| 19:14.10 | TehLaser | wonders if Blu-ray is going to take over the market anytime soon. |
| 19:26.06 | Heartsbane | kicks ibot. |
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| 19:37.57 | maquis | sjansen / Jayce^: good to know |
| 19:54.21 | elg | not quite as good to know as calculus, but pretty close |
| 19:55.28 | *** topic/#utah by elg -> http://utos.org/irc | Log @ http://ibot.rikers.org/#utah | UTOSC - http://tinyurl.com/utosc2009-venue | Now with crazy amounts of birth control |
| 20:11.02 | elg | hmm. "UGR researchers Miguel Delgado, Waldo Fajardo and Miguel Molina decided to design a software programme that would enable a person who knew nothing about composition to create music. " |
| 20:11.06 | elg | I thought we already had that |
| 20:11.09 | elg | it's called radio |
| 20:11.22 | elg | or more precisely, what plays on the radio |
| 20:21.03 | tensai | elg: that would be allowing someone who knows nothing about music to create something which sounds nothing like music |
| 20:21.14 | elg | ah. now I see the difference. |
| 20:22.00 | jsmith-teaching | blinks |
| 20:23.14 | elg | wonders who would contribute 60% of salary to 401k |
| 20:24.35 | Sargun | If you make a million dollars a month |
| 20:24.39 | Sargun | er, a year |
| 20:24.54 | elg | well, it's 60% or $16500 |
| 20:25.02 | Sargun | most people don't need a million dollars, and would be perfectly content with $400k |
| 20:25.06 | sjansen | Hooray Cookies and Milk! |
| 20:25.33 | elg | if $16500 is 60% of your salary, you'd almost be in the poor house (silicon valley) anyway, let alone living off 40% of your salary |
| 20:26.00 | elg | but i suppose you might could do it if you're single living with a bunch of other people and a simple life |
| 20:27.07 | sjansen | Or if you're not the primary income provider. |
| 20:27.10 | TehLaser | elg: someone with a large bank account? |
| 20:27.38 | elg | sjansen has a point |
| 20:28.11 | TehLaser | Mom has a bunch of cash kicking around in after-tax accounts. She's contributing as much as she can to her 401(k) and living on the after-tax cash. |
| 20:28.38 | elg | is no expert, but has heard that after you exhaust matching a roth ira is a better deal |
| 20:31.06 | TehLaser | If you qualify, yes. |
| 20:31.30 | TehLaser | And it depends on what congress does between now and your retirement |
| 20:32.15 | TehLaser | And on how much money you're making now vs. in retirement. There are lots of variables. |
| 20:32.45 | elg | blissfully continues in ignorance for another couple months |
| 20:33.38 | elg | then I'll figure it all out and start getting caught up for getting a late start |
| 20:34.52 | TehLaser | Ugh. Don't remind me. |
| 20:35.06 | TehLaser | has been raiding his contributions for extra money lately. |
| 20:35.28 | thesuperbigfrog | maquis: what is the melting pot? |
| 20:35.47 | elg | something to do with fondue. but you'll want to wear long pants |
| 20:36.04 | thesuperbigfrog | pulls in his frog legs in case any one is really hungry |
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| 20:40.04 | thesuperbigfrog | http://www.meltingpot.com |
| 20:40.07 | sjansen | thesuperbigfrog: A restaurant. |
| 20:40.22 | sjansen | ~cook thesuperbigfrog |
| 20:40.23 | ibot | ACTION throws thesuperbigfrog in a big pan with veggies inside and cooks thesuperbigfrog on 350 for an hour |
| 20:40.27 | thesuperbigfrog | looks tasty, but pricey too |
| 20:40.39 | thesuperbigfrog | ~lrt sjansen |
| 20:40.47 | thesuperbigfrog | ~lart sjansen |
| 20:40.47 | ibot | follow's sjansen with a gauntlet and ... scratch ... HUMILIATION |
| 20:48.23 | maquis | :) |
| 20:48.46 | maquis | so... according to google, i missed my chance to sell stock and retire today... |
| 20:48.58 | maquis | they claim our high for today was 100K |
| 20:49.24 | elg | nice |
| 20:49.37 | elg | sorry you missed it ;-) |
| 20:49.40 | maquis | yeah |
| 20:49.51 | maquis | apparently it was pretty quick... doesn't show up on their graph of our stock price |
| 20:50.01 | maquis | it does mess up our 52-week high a bit, though... |
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| 21:10.56 | ^Migs^ | been listening to this all day. Love these Autotune the Newses: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGhsbRb_pqE&feature=channel |
| 21:20.59 | toofer | Shoot, that is funny crap. |
| 21:23.38 | ^Migs^ | NO SPA IS ABOVE THE LAW! |
| 21:23.58 | ^Migs^ | I like that the provide the lyrics, so you can follow along |
| 21:24.00 | ^Migs^ | *they |
| 21:24.14 | ^Migs^ | Autotune the News #2 still has the best beat |
| 21:24.58 | ^Migs^ | haha, "breaking news, oh snap, news is broken, breaking news, in ya face" |
| 21:25.33 | toofer | I didn't see the lyrics. |
| 21:25.37 | ^Migs^ | look over in the info |
| 21:25.41 | toofer | But the gorilla one was funny |
| 21:25.42 | ^Migs^ | expand it, it's all there |
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| 21:29.45 | goozbach_ | who broke the internets? |
| 21:32.20 | elg | emcnabb did |
| 21:33.15 | goozbach_ | silly red fedora wearing new fathers... |
| 21:33.34 | goozbach_ | I'm trying to hone my insult sword. |
| 21:33.41 | goozbach_ | it's not very sharp as you can see |
| 21:34.06 | elg | -insult goozbach |
| 21:34.07 | brac | goozbach is a spongy thimbleful of off-color cat-hair-balls |
| 21:34.22 | elg | hmm. how many hairballs can you fit in a thimble? |
| 21:35.59 | goozbach_ | 2.2 |
| 21:36.10 | goozbach_ | -insult my server! |
| 21:36.11 | brac | incorrect usage, ask for help using 'brac: help insult' |
| 21:36.17 | goozbach_ | -insult server |
| 21:36.17 | brac | server is an acidic gob of tofu-nibbling poopy |
| 21:38.47 | sjansen | -insult goozbach's_tail |
| 21:38.48 | brac | goozbach's_tail is a fen-sucked puddle of thick cat bladders |
| 21:39.09 | sjansen | -insult elg's_fashion_sense |
| 21:39.09 | brac | elg's_fashion_sense is a mammering enema-bucketful of currish Stimpy-drool |
| 21:39.28 | sjansen | -insult brac's_insult_regex |
| 21:39.29 | brac | brac's_insult_regex is a vassal-willed half-mouthful of penguin-molesting rat-farts |
| 21:39.50 | goozbach_ | yay a reset |
| 21:39.54 | goozbach_ | he died! |
| 21:40.26 | elg | goozbach is dead. long live goozbach_! |
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| 21:44.42 | goozbach_ | someone is spamming the crap out of my trac instance |
| 21:44.48 | goozbach_ | time to turn it off for a bit. |
| 21:44.49 | elg | i bet it's ibot |
| 21:44.56 | elg | ibot, are you a spammer? |
| 21:45.05 | elg | ~rlart |
| 21:45.06 | ibot | chops tensai in half with a free Solaris 7 CD |
| 21:45.09 | elg | brac, are you a spammer? |
| 21:45.20 | elg | brac, are you happy? |
| 21:45.28 | elg | brac, can you hear me? |
| 21:45.31 | elg | -insult the bots |
| 21:45.32 | brac | incorrect usage, ask for help using 'brac: help insult' |
| 21:45.36 | elg | -insult bots |
| 21:45.37 | brac | bots is a loggerheaded tongueful of beef-witted yoo-hoo |
| 21:45.49 | elg | ~insult brac |
| 21:50.41 | goozbach | wowzers, this server doesn't have iptables!!! |
| 21:50.50 | goozbach | I need to rectify that |
| 21:51.50 | sjansen | ~trac-- |
| 21:51.53 | sjansen | ~redmine++ |
| 21:52.12 | toofer | ~IE-- |
| 21:58.28 | jsmith-teaching | goozbach: Lucky you! |
| 21:58.31 | goozbach | yeah |
| 21:58.37 | goozbach | some 600 new tickets |
| 21:58.46 | goozbach | brought my server to its knees |
| 21:59.12 | goozbach | the worst part is that I don't have the filter module |
| 21:59.15 | goozbach | for some odd reason |
| 21:59.37 | goozbach | so I had to add apache configs to block the IPs involved |
| 22:00.20 | stderr | hosts.deny? |
| 22:03.46 | goozbach | stderr: apache isn't compiled against libwrap |
| 22:04.39 | sjansen | So hosts.allow then? |
| 22:14.29 | goozbach | -insult sjansen |
| 22:14.29 | brac | sjansen is a dankish mound of gorbellied bug spit |
| 22:15.29 | maquis | -insult goozbach |
| 22:15.29 | brac | goozbach is a craven pile of unintelligent toxic waste |
| 22:16.21 | sjansen | -insult maquis |
| 22:16.22 | brac | maquis is a puny petrification of sausage-snorfling pond scum |
| 22:16.27 | sjansen | just had to close the circle |
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| 22:22.25 | harleypig | -insult insulting |
| 22:22.25 | brac | insulting is a sheep-biting enema-bucketful of craven craptacular carpet droppings |
| 22:59.30 | harleypig | http://notalwaysright.com/pointless-paranoia-meet-pistol-packin/2028 |
| 22:59.40 | harleypig | I should get my ccw just for this kind of occassion |
| 23:02.03 | maquis | harleypig: lol |
| 23:02.09 | maquis | i read that earlier and got a laugh out of it |
| 23:02.52 | maquis | listens to Il Divo |
| 23:03.08 | maquis | pretends she understands french |
| 23:04.18 | harleypig | That the French equivalent of Devo? |
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| 23:04.26 | harleypig | cracks his whip |
| 23:04.31 | maquis | harleypig: not so much... |
| 23:04.37 | harleypig | heh |
| 23:05.16 | thesuperbigfrog | Il Divo => Ovid Li |
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