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| 02:14.08 | toofer | I'm trying to make the following alias but it doesn't work: alias zxcv="ssh root@$1.somedomain.com" (Using bash) |
| 02:14.36 | toofer | Anyone know what I'm doing wrong here? |
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| 03:10.49 | Sargun | bash programming |
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| 11:49.30 | goozbach | any perl gurus around with experience with TAP::Harness? |
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| 13:43.53 | harleypig | aghh! somehow tvrss.net is pointing to 127.0.0.1 on my home system |
| 13:44.26 | harleypig | oh, wait ... it is on my linode too ... did someone hack their dns setup? |
| 13:44.31 | harleypig | or did they screw it up |
| 13:45.03 | jsmith | harleypig: Maybe they were getting DoS'd.... |
| 13:45.23 | jsmith | harleypig: I've seen sites do that as a DoS mitigation technique |
| 13:45.47 | harleypig | heh ... hadn't thought of that |
| 13:46.17 | harleypig | but that would only effect after ttl |
| 13:49.57 | ^Migs^ | http://notalwaysright.com/because-aramaic-is-sooo-last-millenium/2005 |
| 13:54.18 | jsmith | harleypig: Correct |
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| 14:02.58 | ^Migs^ | http://awkwardfamilyphotos.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/by-dawn-afp2.jpg |
| 14:12.59 | harleypig | ^Migs^: wtf?! |
| 14:17.04 | ^Migs^ | I love that site |
| 14:17.18 | harleypig | dammit ... I have other things I have to do ... |
| 14:19.02 | harleypig | some of these are truly awkward |
| 14:19.28 | ^Migs^ | look through the whole site when you get a chance...there's not that many up yet |
| 14:19.38 | harleypig | omg ... I think I know that famly .. |
| 14:19.41 | ^Migs^ | look for the furry one |
| 14:19.42 | ^Migs^ | HAHAHA |
| 14:19.58 | harleypig | The awkward memorial day one? |
| 14:20.05 | harleypig | or, real furries? |
| 14:20.09 | ^Migs^ | you'll see it |
| 14:20.19 | ^Migs^ | it's a few pages down |
| 14:21.05 | harleypig | O_o Mommy-the-Pooh ... |
| 14:21.13 | harleypig | Dad's Eeyore ... |
| 14:21.17 | harleypig | ow ow ow ow |
| 14:21.34 | ^Migs^ | hahaha |
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| 16:03.59 | ^Migs^ | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8069686.stm |
| 16:04.02 | brac | [BBC NEWS | Asia-Pacific | Passer-by pushes suicide man off bridge] |
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| 16:19.28 | goozbach | something change on the PLUG list recently? |
| 16:19.57 | goozbach | I'm noticing that my filter isn't working properly for all messages? |
| 16:22.37 | jsmith | I noticed the same thing |
| 16:22.51 | jsmith | goes off to inspect his filter |
| 16:25.48 | jsmith | Hmmmn... my filter was filtering on "Provo Linux Users Group Mailing List"... that appears to have been shortened to "Provo Linux Users Group" |
| 16:26.48 | sjansen | You'll have better luck filtering on the List header. |
| 16:26.53 | sjansen | :0 |
| 16:26.53 | sjansen | * ^List.*(oalug|plug|sllug|uug) |
| 16:26.53 | sjansen | $MAILDIR/.Lists.LUGs/ |
| 16:27.21 | goozbach | I am filtering on the List header |
| 16:27.23 | sjansen | Actually, I think that's the List-ID header. |
| 16:27.35 | jsmith | Aye... but in this case, PLUG mail is going to a gmail account, and it doesn't give me a whole lot of flexibility |
| 16:28.09 | jsmith | I guess if I cared more about the PLUG list it'd go to a "real" mailbox |
| 16:28.18 | sjansen | If you use GMail you get what you deserve. |
| 16:28.34 | jsmith | Aye... I completely understand that |
| 16:29.06 | elg | now now, no need to malign gmail for user error |
| 16:29.20 | elg | i have gmail filtering plug on list id just fine |
| 16:29.31 | elg | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:29.45 | goozbach | here's my filter: IF 'List-Id' contains 'Provo Linux Users Group Mailing List' THEN file into 'INBOX.list.plug'; |
| 16:29.45 | sjansen | I'm not in this case. GMail's filtering capabilities are too anemic for anything other that sporadically emailing friends. |
| 16:29.50 | elg | which i got in the usual fashion of "filter messages like this" |
| 16:30.00 | jsmith | goozbach: They dropped the "Mailing List" part of the ListID |
| 16:30.02 | elg | well, it's not procmail |
| 16:30.11 | elg | but it's perfectly capable of filtering mailing lists in the proper way |
| 16:30.55 | elg | even does the right thing by default when you click on "filter messages from this mailing list" |
| 16:31.15 | sjansen | goozbach: You're over specifying. Sometimes more robust result are produced by less exact detail. |
| 16:31.26 | elg | regexes to the rescue |
| 16:31.35 | goozbach | sieve to the rescue! |
| 16:31.57 | goozbach | sjansen: it's my default method |
| 16:32.10 | goozbach | copy the list id into the box on smartsieve, press save |
| 16:32.13 | elg | List-Id: Provo Linux Users Group <plug.plug.org> |
| 16:32.33 | elg | so if you filter on List-Id:.*plug.plug.org, you're good |
| 16:32.38 | sjansen | IF 'List-ID' contains 'plug' THEN file into 'INBOX.list.plug' |
| 16:32.47 | elg | no matter what rsimpkini decides to call the list this week |
| 16:33.07 | sjansen | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:33.11 | goozbach | yes, but what if I'm also a subscribed to the pennsacola linux users group? |
| 16:33.11 | sjansen | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:33.30 | elg | pennsacola lug also has plug.org? |
| 16:33.33 | elg | does it read your mind? |
| 16:33.39 | sjansen | goozbach: Make them change there name. There can be only one PLUG! |
| 16:33.41 | goozbach | not plug.org |
| 16:33.44 | sjansen | (Or what elg said...) |
| 16:33.46 | goozbach | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:33.48 | elg | so if you filter plug.org, you're good |
| 16:33.54 | goozbach | yeah I suppose |
| 16:34.02 | goozbach | until someone changes the list-id again |
| 16:34.03 | elg | until we get two plug lists |
| 16:34.11 | elg | well, the domain ain't gonna change |
| 16:34.15 | sjansen | The list-id is not going to lose plug.org |
| 16:34.28 | levi | sjansen: gmail is far more capable than you give it credit for. |
| 16:34.33 | tensai | we should really fix the reply-to munging though |
| 16:34.38 | goozbach | ALE has three lists now so I have to specify more than the domain. |
| 16:35.05 | goozbach | the world needs more spicy honey mustard |
| 16:35.58 | levi | I filter all my email through a gmail account. I also POP it to my server and do sorting and list archiving there, though. I like to have the always-available web-accessible archive with good search and spam filter capabilities, though. |
| 16:36.31 | levi | I've long since ceased wanting to screw around with mail server configuration. |
| 16:41.24 | goozbach | anyone here running uzbl? |
| 16:41.30 | goozbach | I'm tempted... |
| 16:43.20 | sjansen | Maybe I'd feel differently if I got more spam, but I don't and I love having completely control over my entire domain. |
| 16:44.30 | jsmith | has several different email accounts for that very reason... gmail for things I don't care that much about, and "real" email accounts on "real" servers for the stuff that really matters |
| 16:47.10 | elg | the thing i like about using gmail (via imap) is that i can delete: messages with impunity |
| 16:47.16 | elg | "delete" (archive) |
| 16:47.29 | elg | then if I need an old message, I just go search for it |
| 16:47.33 | elg | using the web interface |
| 16:47.42 | elg | i don't have to decide where to file anything, or remember where I filed it. |
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| 16:49.43 | bbeattie | Anyone know what type of bandwidth and range you can get with off the shelf hacked wifi gear? I'm looking for 30Mp/s + and at 1+ mile range or so |
| 16:50.28 | levi | elg: Exactly, except I never delete anything. |
| 16:50.32 | elg | megapackets? |
| 16:50.35 | levi | elg: I just mark stuff as read. |
| 16:51.06 | elg | i used to do that, but i find deleting stuff and flagging them in thunderbird (action, waiting, later - a la GTD) |
| 16:51.25 | elg | to be more useful. then my inbox is tidy and I know just what I need to do |
| 16:52.18 | levi | Well, I pop stuff off of gmail, and manage things separately in my local copy of the email with gnus. There things are automatically marked as read and disappear from my tidy inbox. |
| 16:52.46 | levi | I rarely have anything to take action on in my private email, though. |
| 16:53.12 | levi | I can mark something to stick around in the inbox if I need it to. |
| 16:54.50 | elg | so we basically do the same thing in different ways |
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| 17:33.15 | Sargun | hey Supaplex, you here |
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| 17:42.12 | unum | so does a wireless access point doing natting or is just pass through |
| 17:42.45 | unum | do you all think I'm right in telling scott that he has his network set up wrong |
| 17:44.02 | unum | his smc/modem/router gateway should be doing all the natting and routing. his server should be in the dmz and he should have a wireless ap with some extra ports for everything that can't plug into the smc device and switches for anything else |
| 17:45.49 | fungus | The term "Access Point" generally indicates there is no NATing or routing done. However, this is not always the case, some people confuse that term with Wireless Router. |
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| 20:01.22 | harleypig | Is there a way I can redirect specific ports? Say I want to have harleydev.com:10022 go to server1:22 but harleydev.com:20022 go to server2:2222 ? |
| 20:01.50 | unum | ya |
| 20:02.11 | unum | are you doing this with a device or a linux server? |
| 20:02.31 | harleypig | server |
| 20:02.44 | unum | so iptables.... |
| 20:03.00 | harleypig | err ... is this the same as port forwarding? |
| 20:03.07 | unum | yes |
| 20:03.14 | harleypig | ah |
| 20:03.18 | unum | that's exactly what is meant by port forwarding |
| 20:03.20 | harleypig | is mildly embarrassed |
| 20:03.41 | harleypig | I know how to do that. :/ |
| 20:05.24 | harleypig | wait, I've only done this for servers inside a NAT'd lan ... I want to forward the port to another server on the web. |
| 20:05.34 | Sargun | Ohm, no. |
| 20:06.27 | harleypig | *sigh* oh well, it was a nice thought. |
| 20:08.50 | unum | I don't see why you couldn't do it to another server on the web |
| 20:08.58 | unum | as long as you are doing it with iptables |
| 20:09.44 | tensai | harleypig: you could redirect it to another server, but you'll have to use source nat |
| 20:10.15 | tensai | in addition to the destination nat. it can work, but it can be confusing. |
| 20:12.20 | Sargun | tensai is right. |
| 20:12.32 | tensai | has done it before |
| 20:12.42 | harleypig | so, I'll need to research source nat with iptables, right? |
| 20:13.42 | tensai | harleypig: http://netfilter.org/documentation/HOWTO/NAT-HOWTO-6.html |
| 20:13.48 | mrpull | I asked the other day, but may as well ask again... what is the deal with the italics and footnote on "recycled by orem city" for the PLUG BBQ? |
| 20:14.39 | tensai | anything not claimed is going into a park dumpster |
| 20:15.18 | harleypig | tensai: thx |
| 20:15.23 | tensai | is my guess, anyway. herlo wrote it. |
| 20:15.25 | elg | -lart harleypig |
| 20:15.25 | brac | ties harleypig to a chair and forces them to listen to 'N Sync at full blast |
| 20:15.31 | mrpull | that's not so good. I hoped that wasn't the case. I've got a metric crap ton of crap to get rid of, but I've been waiting for a recycling event. |
| 20:17.33 | tensai | ~onjoin herlo herlo: tell mrpull about "recycled by orem city" |
| 20:17.33 | ibot | tensai: ok |
| 20:17.36 | unum | almost missed renewing one of his domains |
| 20:17.43 | mrpull | :) |
| 20:17.43 | elg | wonders where to fill up the rental car near the slc airport |
| 20:17.43 | mrpull | nice |
| 20:17.55 | elg | in a maximum efficiency kind of way |
| 20:18.02 | tensai | elg: try a gas station |
| 20:18.21 | elg | as i recall there's not much of anything near the airport. just freeway |
| 20:18.29 | mrpull | elg: be lazy like me and let the rental car company gouge you for it |
| 20:18.32 | unum | redwood and north temple |
| 20:19.00 | unum | so get off on redwood and you can fill up there |
| 20:20.00 | mrpull | there is a maverick on redwood and north temple |
| 20:20.09 | mrpull | $2.19 per gallon |
| 20:20.34 | mrpull | that is about the best price in the state except for cosco/sams |
| 20:21.54 | JoshH | you can get a price pretty close to costco's if you use the fresh values discounts at smiths |
| 20:22.47 | JoshH | elg: the international center near the airport has a gas station as well |
| 20:22.58 | JoshH | a phillips, iirc |
| 20:24.25 | mrpull | when did slashdot get it's latest redesign? |
| 20:24.33 | mrpull | it has some fairly decent features |
| 20:25.56 | elg | sometime between now and when i stopped reading it |
| 20:25.56 | mrpull | I haven't logged into the site for a very long time |
| 20:26.12 | mrpull | but have skimmed the rss feeds fairly consistently |
| 20:26.47 | mrpull | interestingly enough, there is a big check box to disable advertising "As our way of thanking you for your positive contributions to Slashdot" |
| 20:35.49 | neybar | yeah, I stopped reading /. a couple of years ago. |
| 20:41.29 | goozbach | I still read at -1 |
| 20:41.48 | goozbach | and almost every time to the bottom of the first page of comments |
| 20:44.28 | sjansen | elg: My experience with most rental cars is that you can drive about 20 miles after filling up without the needle dipping noticeably below the top mark. |
| 20:45.18 | sjansen | In addition, most rental agencies don't charge for the first gallon or so, meaning if you get it filled up downtown or something, you'll be fine when you drop it off. |
| 20:45.38 | unum | i usually only read comments on the polls |
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| 20:46.11 | unum | I read every headline every weekday |
| 20:48.40 | JoshH | i almost never read articles, but i skim the comments on the interesting summaries |
| 20:50.17 | unum | same here occasionally |
| 20:51.16 | unum | of course two weeks ago I found my self looking at dev-c++ again to see if I could recommend it to someone. and had the exact same question someone asked /. today |
| 20:51.27 | tensai | I stopped reading /. completely when I realized the signal:noise was far too low |
| 20:51.50 | unum | for me it's pretty high |
| 20:51.57 | unum | it all depends on what you are interested in |
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| 20:52.05 | unum | I'm really interested in the your rights online stuff |
| 20:52.18 | unum | eff and groklaw has a lot of that stuff as well, but I think /. covers the most |
| 20:52.32 | sjansen | Reading slashdot headlines takes very little time and it still has as much good stuff as it did years ago. |
| 20:53.01 | sjansen | Slashdot has more competition now than it used to, that's true. But the time to read headlines is so small, I still check it. |
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| 21:36.23 | synic | eggyknap: ping |
| 21:36.45 | eggyknap | pong. |
| 21:38.52 | maquis | cool thing i discovered |
| 21:38.55 | maquis | in vim, you can do: |
| 21:39.03 | maquis | :e `command to get a filename` |
| 21:56.51 | Tene | Nice. |
| 21:57.02 | maquis | Tene: yeah |
| 21:57.07 | maquis | i kept doing |
| 21:57.11 | maquis | :! command |
| 21:57.16 | maquis | then copying the result and doing :e result |
| 21:57.28 | maquis | then i was like "hmmm... i bet there's a better way to do this" |
| 23:38.33 | harleypig | what's the name of that sport where people jump off of various buildings ? |
| 23:38.37 | harleypig | anyone know what I'm talking about? |
| 23:39.11 | goozbach | base jumping |
| 23:39.23 | goozbach | or more correctly B.A.S.E. jumping |
| 23:41.11 | harleypig | Oh, wrong description ... |
| 23:41.18 | harleypig | they jump off the top of the buildings |
| 23:41.42 | harleypig | they do gymnastics, climbing up the sides of buildings, jumping around and over things, including buildings. |
| 23:41.53 | harleypig | err ... they don't jump off. |
| 23:44.47 | goozbach | parqour |
| 23:44.52 | goozbach | or freerunning |
| 23:51.44 | harleypig | ah, thx |
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