| 00:04.47 | neybar | are there any postgres admin around? I am moving to a new server. I have postgres 8.3 on both servers. I shut down my old db, and thought I would just make a data copy of /var/lib/postgesql/8.3/main to the new server. When I try to start up the new server I'm getting "Error: Could not parse locale out of pg_controldata output" |
| 00:04.55 | neybar | permissions seem to be right |
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| 00:24.04 | lukfugl | halloo |
| 00:24.27 | lukfugl | calling all hardware junkies... |
| 00:26.13 | lukfugl | so my wife bought a new BIOSTAR TA790GX XE mobo, AMD Phenom64 CPU and 4GB PNY DDR2 RAM to upgrade her computer |
| 00:26.59 | lukfugl | she put it all back together (she's at least as competent as I am when it comes to hardware), but it's now having boot problems |
| 00:28.44 | lukfugl | she says that earlier it was getting to the BIOS interrupt screen ("Press DEL to get into the BIOS") and freezing there (did not respond to DEL). currently it's not even getting that far; the screen stays black on boot, never shows anything |
| 00:29.32 | lukfugl | she's tried booting with the CMOS battery out, with extra hardware (e.g. gfx card) out... no change |
| 00:29.39 | lukfugl | any ideas? |
| 00:39.46 | lukfugl | quiet crew tonight |
| 00:39.51 | Sargun_screen | uhm |
| 00:40.12 | Sargun_screen | Stay far away from hardware |
| 00:40.17 | lukfugl | :) |
| 00:46.15 | lukfugl | *crickets* |
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| 03:26.06 | maquis | anyone around to help with some really simple shell-scripting that i seem to be sucking at? |
| 03:28.57 | maquis | Hi, I'm a newbie trying to do a simple zsh shell script, and I am having some trouble. Is anyone here available to give me a hand? The script I am working on is at http://pastebin.com/d3e28de69 |
| 03:29.30 | maquis | It is saying there is a parse error near `elif`, but I don't see what I'm doing wrong at or before that line |
| 03:31.31 | maquis | er... that went to the wrong window.. but sure :) |
| 03:31.44 | tensai | we forgive you |
| 03:32.08 | maquis | :) |
| 03:32.21 | maquis | although i am still a shell scripting newbie trying to fix stuff |
| 03:32.30 | maquis | so, if anyone in here is good at that stuff, i'd appreciate the help still :) |
| 03:33.01 | tensai | that zsh syntax is a bit weird |
| 03:35.15 | tensai | maquis: try putting your "then" on a newline |
| 03:35.59 | maquis | #zsh got me to the point that now i'm just having problems with the fact htat it's trying to use (( 70+5 )) instead of printing 75 :) |
| 03:37.23 | maquis | woohoo! got it! |
| 03:38.18 | maquis | tensai: if you care, i updated with the correct version :) |
| 03:38.48 | maquis | now i can fix my brightness buttons on this box |
| 03:45.38 | maquis | doh... stupid thing needs to run as root now... |
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| 04:37.35 | Tarrant | Anyone know of a way in Vim to take the current line and run it through an external script, and then replace the line with the output of said script? |
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| 04:44.35 | tensai | Tarrant: shift-V to highlight the current line |
| 04:44.52 | tensai | Tarrant: then !<external command> |
| 04:45.26 | maquis | huh... i didnt know that could be done |
| 04:45.34 | Tarrant | *bows down and worships tensai* |
| 04:45.52 | tensai | maquis: infinitely useful. I do it all the time. |
| 04:46.10 | maquis | interesting... what commands do you do it with? |
| 04:46.27 | tensai | sort and uniq are common |
| 04:46.35 | tensai | grep |
| 04:46.47 | Tarrant | Yea with that in mind I just tried ":. !<command>" so that means ":% !<command>" will also work :) |
| 04:47.08 | tensai | yup |
| 04:47.51 | Sargun | Tarrant, you capitalized? |
| 04:49.29 | Tarrant | Sargun: Yea I started to figure out irssi. Which makes such things possible. |
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| 05:57.47 | Tarrant | My dns stopped working... |
| 05:58.25 | bonez46 | when did it stop? |
| 05:58.43 | Tarrant | It was down for 10 mins. Now it seems to be working. |
| 06:01.40 | Tarrant | Looks like its just Comcast being stupid... I wish utopia would serve here. |
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| 15:04.50 | jsmith | So, anybody gonna go order a Kindle DX now? |
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| 16:28.29 | Shadowwire | Anyone use Vista at all? |
| 16:31.29 | unum | this is really the wrong place to be asking that...... |
| 16:31.39 | Shadowwire | I know... That doesnt deserve a response... |
| 16:31.47 | unum | I've used XP on occasion, but only because they paid really well :) |
| 16:31.57 | Shadowwire | Nice. |
| 16:32.11 | unum | never really used 2000 |
| 16:32.27 | unum | I actually ran '98 for years before I converted |
| 16:32.31 | Shadowwire | How would one avoid using XP or Vista in the corporate world? |
| 16:32.48 | unum | google |
| 16:32.55 | jshipley | Shadowwire: Linux |
| 16:32.58 | unum | IBM, sysadmin, XMission |
| 16:33.12 | unum | s/sysadmin/unix server admin |
| 16:33.42 | JoshH | i wouldn't ever take a job that gave me a windows box or had me work on windows, personally |
| 16:33.42 | unum | there are companies that don't use windows |
| 16:34.03 | Shadowwire | I wish I worked for one. |
| 16:34.08 | jshipley | There are also companies that do use windows, but wouldn't freak out if you decided to use linux instead. |
| 16:34.26 | unum | I have three computers one is a windows box. I use it to test my apps with firefox on windows |
| 16:34.38 | Shadowwire | I would still be helpdesk for 200 Windows boxes. |
| 16:34.59 | JoshH | i'd change careers and get out of computer stuff entirely before using windows at work |
| 16:35.01 | unum | I'm helpdesk for about ten. I'm not very helpful |
| 16:35.09 | JoshH | it's just not something i enjoy using |
| 16:35.38 | Shadowwire | Wow, Josh... Those are some pretty strong feelings. |
| 16:36.21 | JoshH | with windows, the problems you have to fix aren't often logical, with a fix that you can figure out. they are frustrating, make no sense, and are often only solved by reinstalling or rebooting |
| 16:36.33 | Shadowwire | So... This is a Microsoft Hateing Forum? |
| 16:36.34 | JoshH | and that's just not fun work |
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| 17:58.10 | jsmith | Aye, the telcos *are* coming! |
| 18:12.39 | sjansen | mysql_fetch_row(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL result resource in /www/htdocs/w0094f96/demo/include/class.task.php |
| 18:19.59 | brasto | eightyeight: nice new screen name... when did you change to eightyeight? |
| 18:20.56 | jsmith | sjansen: Awesome! MySQL (and poorly-coded PHP) bite again! |
| 18:21.05 | brasto | anyway, I sent a pm, eightyeight |
| 18:21.45 | eightyeight | brasto: some time ago |
| 18:28.43 | unum | you were atoponce againg the other day |
| 18:29.38 | eightyeight | for a technicality with freenode i'm still trying to work out |
| 18:29.54 | eightyeight | atoponce is my primary nick on nickserv, with eightyeight as the alternate |
| 18:32.31 | JoshH | you should change it to ninethousandsevenhundredfiftywo |
| 18:35.37 | eightyeight | why? |
| 18:37.57 | eightyeight | i don't know of a piano that has 9,752 keys |
| 18:40.31 | JoshH | i see |
| 18:44.52 | sjansen | Ladies and gentleman, it is 2009 and PHP has finally announced that PHPv6 will remove register_globals and magic_quotes. |
| 18:45.53 | unum | are they keeping goto? |
| 19:07.40 | jsmith | sjansen: Namespaces? Are they gonna support real namespaces? |
| 19:08.31 | sjansen | You didn't hear about that? PHP already has namespaces. |
| 19:08.33 | sjansen | http://us.php.net/manual/en/language.namespaces.rationale.php |
| 19:08.41 | sjansen | Note the choice of delimiter. |
| 19:10.28 | jsmith | I know... |
| 19:11.27 | jsmith | I'm just being facetious |
| 19:24.14 | levi | Anyone want to give me $500 so I can buy a Kindle DX? |
| 19:26.09 | sjansen | I'll give you $500 if you give me $550. (Processing fee.) |
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| 19:58.13 | jshipley | I want a eeepc 1000he, but my wife won't let me get one unless I get rid of one of my computers :( |
| 19:58.31 | jshipley | It makes sense, and we really don't need another computer, but I'm still a little too attached to my old laptop |
| 19:59.10 | Supaplex | strong adhesive? |
| 20:02.07 | sjansen | jshipley: Looks like your only reasonable option is divorce. |
| 20:02.34 | romanovic | jshipley, i just bought a 1000he, very handy if you are out and about, and not frequently near an outlet |
| 20:04.16 | romanovic | but sure is no replacement for my old laptop if i'm writing code and need the screen space |
| 20:05.54 | romanovic | I still have xp on mine, I've been wondering if anyone has tried Ubuntu 9.04 netbook remix on a 1000he? |
| 20:06.11 | sjansen | Clearly your wife needs an expensive hobby. "If I can spend $N on an eeepc, you can spend $N on $HOBBY." |
| 20:06.37 | sjansen | Might I suggest introducing your wife to the benefits of heroin? |
| 20:14.03 | goozbach | sjansen: scrapbooking, shoe shopping, shopping in general, are probabally better alternatives |
| 20:15.12 | sinuhe | goozbach: Same diff. :-) |
| 20:16.41 | Tarrant | Depends on how you are defining Heroin. For instance I would include WoW with heroin ;) |
| 20:17.13 | levi | My wife is currently hooked on some facebook version of Bejeweled. |
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| 20:57.49 | JoshH | i wish my wife was addicted to wow, so i could play it again too |
| 20:58.03 | JoshH | i still have cravings sometimes, even though i'm mostly recovered |
| 20:58.34 | maquis | my husband and i probably have too many computers... but... |
| 20:58.36 | maquis | well... |
| 20:59.03 | JoshH | for quick gaming fixes any time, including during work breaks, i find that ZSNES with all the ROMs (easy to get) and a logitech usb pad is amazing |
| 21:17.27 | Supaplex | all my pcs are my kids. for now. :p |
| 21:17.54 | jshipley | sjansen: We bought an iBook for her birthday last year, does that count as an expensive hobby? |
| 21:19.57 | jshipley | romanovic: That's part of the reason I'm hesitating to make the switch. I love the screen space, but the shorter battery life, size, and weight of my old laptop make it so that I hardly use it at all. |
| 21:20.32 | jshipley | For screen space, I generally just use my desktop (dual monitors ftw) |
| 21:20.57 | Supaplex | ~"dual monitors"++ |
| 21:21.21 | romanovic | yeah |
| 21:21.54 | romanovic | since lcds are so much cheaper now, i just recently added a second monitor myself |
| 21:22.38 | jshipley | I just can't shake the feeling that a smaller computer with better battery life will be used a lot more. |
| 21:23.03 | Supaplex | I remember when 21" computer monitors were around $1000. I bought a replacement a few months ago for $1 =) |
| 21:24.33 | romanovic | nice |
| 21:24.38 | jshipley | I remember when I was a computer tech at college... all of the faculty wanted dual monitors even though the budget was getting slashed all over the place, they cost $750 each, and they probably didn't even have much use for them. |
| 21:25.20 | romanovic | wow |
| 21:25.43 | jshipley | I'm pretty sure it was a status thing more than anything else |
| 21:27.14 | romanovic | jshipley: wow, coincidentally, i'm a computer tech at the U, and everybody has new widescreen lcd's, some even have dual widescreen lcds |
| 21:28.57 | romanovic | and the lcd's that were replaced are now floating around our office. So i snagged one to use as a second monitor with my work computer |
| 21:29.31 | unum | I worked at USU surplus. I remember going to the registration office to pick up their big old CRT's. I was amazed at how nice of monitors they were getting rid of. Then I noticed all the LCD's in the office. When we left I asked the other guy "did you see those monitors", "I wasn't looking at the monitors" |
| 21:29.55 | unum | I'm definatly a computer geek, because I only noticed the monitors |
| 21:30.07 | unum | which may be why I'm still single |
| 21:33.17 | jshipley | romanovic: well, I guess things haven't changed, even though I worked at a different school 7 years ago. |
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| 21:35.27 | tensai | ~summon elg |
| 21:35.28 | ibot | apt takes out 20 clean, identical-looking phones, some extra hands, and pretends to be a telemarketer for a large corporation, so he gets delivered a phonelist containing elg's coordinates |
| 21:35.59 | romanovic | jshipley: yeah. i should note that these monitor upgrades came before fall '08 semester, before a lot of the budget cuts they're trying to cope with now |
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