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| 03:33.39 | levi | There's very little conversation here on the weekends these days. |
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| 03:47.55 | elg | "Thou art guilty of vanity. Yea insomuch that ye believeth in thine heart that this scripture pertaineth unto you." |
| 03:48.00 | elg | http://www.myregisblog.com/ |
| 03:48.16 | levi | Heh. |
| 03:52.41 | levi | elg: "A Parable" is hilarious. |
| 03:52.46 | elg | yeah |
| 03:52.58 | elg | i hate that silly indian snake parable |
| 03:53.16 | elg | and all the other overused wannabe parables |
| 03:53.25 | levi | I hate most parables used in church talks. |
| 03:53.35 | elg | is sure someone important used it and I'd be getting in trouble. oh well |
| 03:53.58 | levi | I also hate stories that go on forever about people traveling and having all their loved ones die. |
| 03:53.58 | elg | haha, foot prints |
| 03:54.06 | elg | But then I remembered that just because there werenât extra foot prints didnât mean He wasnât there with me. I mean, because he can totally float in the air if He wants to, right? |
| 03:54.14 | levi | <- going to hell now for hating the Prophet's story, but so it is. |
| 03:56.15 | levi | groans at 'Lycan the Scriptures' |
| 04:12.46 | levi | I just shared with my wife the one about missionaries in Bangkok learning humility in one night, and she totally didn't get it. |
| 04:19.55 | levi | "And then if they like that, I explain Kolob to them." |
| 04:20.09 | elg | triassic kingdom is awesome |
| 04:20.12 | elg | and the one after it |
| 04:20.38 | levi | Awesome, he links to an mp3 of Mormon Rap. I haven't heard that in years. |
| 04:21.52 | Sargun | I'd like to see harleypig rap some religious raps |
| 04:23.07 | levi | "It would be more tangy than regular mayonnaise, but it would also make you feel more guilty than regular mayonnaise.It would be more tangy than regular mayonnaise, but it would also make you feel more guilty than regular mayonnaise." |
| 04:23.16 | levi | Oops, double-click. |
| 04:24.31 | elg | miracle whip of forgiveness |
| 04:24.33 | elg | genius |
| 04:25.13 | levi | "No, the war in heaven was a war fought with those nuclear accelerator proton guns and small ecto holding traps like they had in the Ghostbusters movies." |
| 04:30.31 | elg | -lart tensai |
| 04:30.31 | brac | pokes tensai in the eye |
| 04:50.50 | findlay_ | hello |
| 04:53.40 | findlay | ~say -chat ~say -chat |
| 04:53.41 | ibot | -chat ~say -chat |
| 04:53.42 | brac | ~say -chat ~onjoin findlay ~say -chat ~onjoin findlay |
| 04:53.43 | ibot | -chat ~onjoin findlay ~say -chat ~onjoin findlay |
| 04:53.43 | brac | incorrect usage, ask for help using 'brac: help chat' |
| 04:54.03 | findlay | -chat ~onjoin findlay |
| 04:54.04 | brac | ~onjoin findlay <action>kisses a girl $20 at V.I. by the government. |
| 04:54.04 | ibot | ok, brac |
| 05:00.02 | levi | Yo, findlay. |
| 05:08.34 | levi | http://www.myregisblog.com/2008/08/so-what-do-i-believe.html |
| 05:08.41 | levi | Pixies FTW! |
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| 14:16.09 | elg | is a little too proud of his soaker hose irrigations etup |
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| 14:39.05 | elg | -chat |
| 14:39.06 | brac | forget I asked more questions |
| 14:39.09 | elg | ok |
| 14:44.07 | elg | i should be sad the bus price raised from 35 cents to 50 cents (student) |
| 14:44.20 | elg | but I'm not. it totally makes the management of change cards so much easier |
| 14:44.31 | elg | (like it was when the fare was 25 cents) |
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| 14:55.28 | jsmith | elg: There's the sign of a true engineer -- you don't care as much about the cost as you do coming out with nice round numbers :-) |
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| 17:00.02 | tensai | xorg is defaulting to a japanese keyboard layout. how do I get it to think I'm in the US, without going all out and creating an xorg.conf? |
| 17:00.22 | tensai | seems that somehow it's autodetecting japanese, so it must be possible to make it autodetect us |
| 17:00.37 | elg | sic gnome on it and see which wins control of the keyboard layout ? |
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| 17:30.28 | Sargun | in gdb, <pthread_detach+64>, if the address of pthread_detach is 0x00d92410, where is crashed is 0xd92474 or 0xd92450? |
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| 17:37.17 | fozzmoo | mrpull: ping! |
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| 18:50.50 | mrpull | fozzmoo: pong! |
| 18:52.48 | unum | http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/04/first-sale-president-obama-and-queen-england |
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| 19:25.47 | tensai | I'm not sure which concerns me more, that my dad is on facebook or that he has way more friends than me |
| 19:28.45 | fungus | lol, another reason facebook is no longer cool. At least not for elitists like me. :P |
| 19:34.42 | ^Migs^ | yeah, stick with myspace |
| 19:36.12 | ^Migs^ | unum: I always knew Obama was a criminal |
| 19:36.15 | elg | tensai: haha |
| 19:37.48 | unum | ^Migs^: I have to admit you're right |
| 19:38.05 | elg | myspace? really? |
| 19:38.14 | unum | though I think anyone who has ever used a computer is guilty of copyright violations |
| 19:38.15 | elg | i wouldn't touch myspace with a 10' pole |
| 19:38.27 | unum | what about a 10' german? |
| 19:38.32 | elg | civil, not criminal |
| 19:38.41 | elg | is glad to see someone else has pun set on high today |
| 19:38.52 | unum | elg: copyright violations are criminal offenses now |
| 19:39.01 | unum | THANK YOU SENATOR HATCH |
| 19:39.17 | elg | in fact I was wondering if polish person is spelled differently so i could make the pun |
| 19:44.27 | ^Migs^ | I think it'd be hilarious if someone sent a fake lawsuit against Obama |
| 19:44.32 | ^Migs^ | pretending to be the RIAA |
| 19:44.48 | elg | i think it'd be hilarious if the riaa sued him |
| 19:44.58 | ^Migs^ | that's never going to happen, so I'm going for the next best thing |
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| 19:56.39 | levi | People were happy to buy iPhones to develop on, because they had a reasonable expectation of being able to recoup the investment and because the platform itself was not half-assed. |
| 19:56.52 | RyanE | yep. |
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| 19:59.07 | levi | There wasn't really any reason to buy a FreeRunner aside from 1. Open Source Zealotry or 2. Wanting a cell phone hobby project. And I think there are a lot of people who fall in category 2 who don't actually have the motivation to follow through with actually producing anything useful with the hobby. |
| 19:59.52 | unum | the one person I know with an openmoko was give an iphone by at&t which he ebayed |
| 20:00.30 | JoshH | http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_DNnrlIFiiuU/Sdo3dcLlDSI/AAAAAAAAAVE/-51h5ARDFTQ/s1600-h/GetAttachment.aspx.jpeg |
| 20:00.33 | JoshH | funny typo there |
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| 20:01.14 | JoshH | caused by a rushed spellcheck apparently: http://newsnet.byu.edu/story.cfm/72090 |
| 20:01.40 | levi | unum: Signs point to a case of reason #1 |
| 20:02.02 | RyanE | heh |
| 20:02.26 | levi | unum: And banking on zealots of a movement with 'Free' in the name is not a wise business decision, IMHO. |
| 20:03.10 | unum | :) |
| 20:03.32 | unum | especially since he never would have gotten it if he hadn't essentially got it for free |
| 20:04.26 | levi | It will be interesting to see how Android pans out. |
| 20:04.48 | unum | ya |
| 20:04.59 | unum | I hoping some of the second generation ones are good |
| 20:05.13 | RyanE | Since it's being picked up by some manufacturers, hopefully it'll do better. |
| 20:05.33 | levi | I predict a much higher likelihood of success, since there's a large corporation committing resources to software and a variety of hardware manufacturers signed on. |
| 20:06.15 | levi | I don't think it's likely to be a home run success, though. |
| 20:07.53 | RyanE | yeah, hard to have a home run when the game is mostly over, due to Apple iPhone. |
| 20:07.59 | RyanE | at least it seems that way. |
| 20:08.41 | levi | I fear for Palm Pre. |
| 20:09.00 | levi | It sounds really cool, but the odds are stacked against it. |
| 20:16.06 | goozbach | if I wasn't already an owner of a G1 I might have bought a pre |
| 20:16.47 | elg | http://endyalamo.googlepages.com/DU.JPG/DU-full;init:.JPG is a better pic of that |
| 20:17.37 | levi | Those darned Apostates. |
| 20:24.56 | elg | i bet that student never blindly clicks through a spellcheck again |
| 20:27.03 | unum | there really should have been a couple of checks in place on that |
| 20:27.28 | unum | we don't even let our clients review text until two people have signed off on it here |
| 20:29.21 | elg | yes, copy editors should have picked up on it |
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| 20:30.17 | RyanE | there *were* a couple of checks on it, apparently... over-stressed checks trying to get out a General Conference issue... :) |
| 20:30.55 | RyanE | 'cause if you don't publish General Conference news fast, it gets stale. After all, there'll just be another one in 6 months... :) |
| 20:31.13 | elg | but copy editors have enough to do without checking that every word printed wasn't inserted by a disgruntled spell-checker |
| 20:31.23 | elg | that level of proofreading really belongs with whoever wrote it and ran the spell checker |
| 20:31.31 | RyanE | yep. |
| 20:32.17 | RyanE | individual responsibility. Of course, the Daily Universe has always had a *ton* of just this sort of mistake, but this one is a bit more embarrassing, because the change is such a violent reversal of the statement... |
| 20:32.19 | JoshH | i read that text about 10 times, trying to figure out why the pic was funny enough to be posted in another channel, before someone pointed the typo out to me |
| 20:32.40 | elg | s/embarassing/hilarious/ |
| 20:32.48 | elg | it is defintely par for the course for the daily unifarse |
| 20:33.59 | JoshH | i kinda wish it happened in the chronicle |
| 20:34.12 | elg | is that the UU paper? |
| 20:34.55 | JoshH | yes |
| 20:35.02 | JoshH | the daily chronicle |
| 20:35.07 | elg | wonders half-jokingly if the student involved will be considered before the honore code inquisition to see if he was possessed by the devil when he ran the spell checker |
| 20:35.16 | elg | or, if the spell checker was written by devil children |
| 20:35.26 | JoshH | adobe indesign |
| 20:35.31 | JoshH | so possibly |
| 20:35.35 | elg | there you have it :) |
| 20:36.09 | elg | sadly i'm sure not a few zoobies would jump to the conclusion that maybe someone with an axe to grind inserted it |
| 20:36.17 | elg | at which anyone grinding axes would just laugh |
| 20:36.59 | unum | this code is too confusing, I have to be doing something wrong |
| 20:37.09 | elg | or, you could be a devil child |
| 20:37.15 | unum | that too |
| 20:37.33 | unum | I'm a democrat so we already know that's true |
| 20:38.26 | JoshH | break free from satan's grip, and vote GOP |
| 20:38.44 | JoshH | like jesus would |
| 20:39.05 | unum | he would totally vote Bill Dew over Jim Matheson |
| 20:39.18 | JoshH | heh |
| 20:39.23 | unum | after all Bill Dew would wear his Y baseball cap while campaigning |
| 20:39.39 | unum | that just shows he's in on God's side |
| 20:40.00 | JoshH | i love how the matheson challengers always not-so-subtly let you know they are mormon in their campaigns |
| 20:40.25 | JoshH | like when that one guy's ads said "back when my ancestors settled this valley...." |
| 20:41.22 | JoshH | matheson is mormon anyway though, isn't he? |
| 20:41.35 | JoshH | and he's definitely no harry reid |
| 20:41.57 | JoshH | he's only a democrat by utah standards |
| 20:43.40 | tensai | it's funny to me that everyone is mocking the daily universe. it was a lot better than my home town newspaper, the argus observer. |
| 20:43.42 | unum | harry reid is also mormon |
| 20:43.57 | tensai | unum: not by much, or so I hear |
| 20:44.03 | JoshH | i know, unum |
| 20:44.24 | JoshH | he's temple worthy, i'm sure |
| 20:45.10 | JoshH | or at least claims to be... i'm highly skeptical that any lds politician could really pass the "are you honest, etc" portion of the interviews without lying |
| 20:45.41 | unum | JoshH: if they let Hatch have his temple recommend.... |
| 20:46.05 | JoshH | same with people like greg curtis |
| 20:46.15 | unum | true |
| 20:46.20 | tensai | I guess I really shouldn't pass judgement based merely on hearsay. I retract my statement. |
| 20:46.25 | unum | Dougal is my least favorite rep |
| 20:46.53 | unum | and i hope none of you are looking at porn on https, I'll turn you in |
| 20:47.08 | unum | maybe only the distributing is illegal |
| 20:47.10 | unum | looks |
| 20:48.15 | unum | oops, maybi it's the other way around.... |
| 20:48.44 | elg | looking at https on porn? |
| 20:48.54 | unum | exactly |
| 20:49.07 | unum | actually I thought you could only use port 80 to look at porn |
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| 20:51.20 | tensai | cp80 would make port 80 porn free, at least that's the plan |
| 20:51.38 | elg | then porn would be available only on port xx |
| 20:51.39 | elg | x |
| 20:52.07 | elg | so maybe port 88 |
| 20:52.23 | elg | although, 80 is P, which stands porn |
| 20:52.35 | tensai | xxx would be 101010 in roman numerals |
| 20:52.57 | RyanE | Trouble with a capital T that rhymes with P and that stands for Porn. |
| 20:53.02 | tensai | or maybe that's 30, I guess |
| 20:53.34 | tensai | and port 30 doesn't have an assigned service, so I think we've got a winner |
| 20:53.53 | JoshH | wasn't the cp80 crowd opposed to a dedicated porn TLD? |
| 20:54.13 | RyanE | I would think it should be port 8008, but that's just me. |
| 20:54.44 | tensai | RyanE: heh |
| 20:54.51 | RyanE | I suppose it should be 58008, for the old-timey upside-down calculator people. |
| 20:55.20 | elg | 8008 works both upside down and right side up |
| 20:55.27 | RyanE | yeah, that's a benny. |
| 20:56.20 | JoshH | i think a porn TLD would be widely supported by the porn industry and makes more logical sense than having them run their webservers on a different port |
| 20:56.32 | JoshH | but the porn haters didn't like that idea |
| 20:57.09 | JoshH | the cp80 plan is the dumbest thing i've ever heard |
| 20:57.29 | JoshH | but not surprising, considering yarro is involved |
| 20:57.54 | elg | it would be easy to filter |
| 20:58.03 | tensai | hey. pashdown is #10 on a google search for cp80 |
| 20:58.05 | elg | you wouldn't even have to make it a requirement. just make the xxx domain available |
| 20:59.02 | JoshH | it would probably be the most hammered gtld server too |
| 20:59.58 | JoshH | it would probably be pretty popular for non porn stuff too |
| 21:00.05 | JoshH | all the cool kids would want a .xxx blog |
| 21:01.01 | goozbach | joshh.xxx |
| 21:01.04 | goozbach | oh yeah! |
| 21:01.49 | elg | squats eee.xxx |
| 21:09.18 | unum | forcing all porn to .xxx probably wouldn't fly anyways. you can create a safe harbor(.kid) but restricting speech on the main domains probably wouldn't be allowed |
| 21:11.21 | JoshH | forcing, no |
| 21:11.23 | elg | yeah, but making it available most commercial porn would migrate I think |
| 21:11.28 | JoshH | exactly |
| 21:11.29 | elg | makes it easier to find |
| 21:12.01 | JoshH | no more "let's see, was that site my buddy told me about naughtynurses.com, net or org?" |
| 21:12.19 | pashdown | tensai, thanks for the tip :-) |
| 21:13.19 | goozbach | "buddy told me" *snigger* |
| 21:14.38 | sjansen | A Porn TLD was discussed several years ago. Some group was strongly opposed, for extremely silly reasons. IIRC, conservatives were opposed because it would "promote" porn. Or something stupid like that. |
| 21:14.41 | fozzmoo | The problem with adult-specific TLDs thus far is that they're being promoted by organizations who are looking to charge ginormous registration rates. |
| 21:15.29 | fozzmoo | But, generally speaking, as a conservative, I'm cool with an adult-specific TLD. |
| 21:15.47 | fozzmoo | (as long as our govt doesn't get heavy-handed about it.) |
| 21:16.09 | fozzmoo | Nobody's enforcing .org as being non-commercial, but by and large it mostly is. |
| 21:16.40 | tensai | pashdown: no, no. thank you. that link was rather good. |
| 21:18.07 | Sargun_Screen | was it years? |
| 21:18.14 | Sargun | It was maybe a year? |
| 21:18.33 | Sargun | .xxx is a good idea though... |
| 21:18.45 | Sargun | It'd mainly be an adult venue. |
| 21:18.56 | JoshH | it would have a lot of problems, but most of them would also apply to cp80 |
| 21:19.01 | Sargun | Not only easy to block, but at least it'd be easier to find porn.. |
| 21:19.04 | JoshH | overall though, it would reduce the amount of porn that kids could get at |
| 21:19.36 | Sargun | agrees with that |
| 21:19.40 | Sargun | just block .xxx |
| 21:20.07 | fozzmoo | Does anyone else remember the bank commercial that SNL made a few years ago- the bank that waited forever to get a domain name? |
| 21:20.24 | fozzmoo | They ended up with the only one left: clownpenis.fart |
| 21:20.37 | JoshH | companies with existing domains could easily redirect them to the new .xxx domain |
| 21:20.53 | JoshH | the registries could even simply move them all over so no new registration would be needed |
| 21:21.06 | JoshH | but that's a lot of work just to crack down on porn |
| 21:21.44 | JoshH | and it avoids the real root of the problem: lack of parenting and personal responsibility |
| 21:21.56 | fozzmoo | Yay! Avoidance! |
| 21:22.20 | elg | no the real root of the problem is that porn is poisoning our electrons |
| 21:22.26 | JoshH | if you let your 14 year old have an unfiltered connection in his bedroom, then you can't claim to care about him looking at porn |
| 21:23.12 | JoshH | just like you can't blindly get him a copy of GTA4 without even looking at the box, and then whine when you hear the cursing |
| 21:31.37 | pashdown | i don't like the appearance of men's feet |
| 21:31.43 | pashdown | can i get that moved over to .xxx? |
| 21:31.52 | pashdown | and the gannet |
| 21:31.57 | pashdown | it wets its nest |
| 21:32.45 | fozzmoo | spams pashdown with feet pics. |
| 21:32.57 | pashdown | footnado! |
| 21:43.45 | Jayce^ | pashdown++ for the obscure BookShop MP reference |
| 21:55.19 | goozbach | what's the vim setting which changes the size of the ">" command? |
| 21:55.33 | goozbach | ie I'm hilighting a block and pressing ">" |
| 21:55.35 | jsmith | set shiftwidth? |
| 21:55.37 | goozbach | it's not tabstop |
| 21:55.41 | goozbach | shiftwidth, yes |
| 21:55.43 | goozbach | thanks |
| 21:55.45 | goozbach | couldn't remember |
| 21:55.56 | jsmith | can't believe he knew something in vim that goozbach didn't |
| 21:56.26 | goozbach | jsmith: it's starting to leak out |
| 21:56.28 | goozbach | :) |
| 21:57.12 | goozbach | speaking of stuff I know that you don't... I've been working on something VERY COOL. I'll demo to you when you get here for the installfest. |
| 21:57.52 | jsmith | goozbach: Now you've got my attention! |
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| 22:31.57 | tensai | what's a good email client for a kid? |
| 22:32.08 | tensai | a 7 year old |
| 22:34.26 | goozbach | a parent's email address and reading the emails to them? |
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| 22:34.58 | unum | I think thunderbird's great for everyone |
| 22:35.04 | jshipley | tensai: you could try mutt |
| 22:35.08 | elg | tensai: /usr/bin/mail |
| 22:36.01 | jshipley | seriously though, I don't think that any one mail client is better than the rest for a child to use. KMail, evolution, thunderbird, the new one from yahoo... |
| 22:36.35 | jshipley | I'd probably just get them a webmail account, and let them use yahoo or gmail or something |
| 22:39.53 | tensai | I'll give thunderbird a spin and see if he can figure it out. he's a sharp kid and I think he's ready to graduate from me reading and typing his emails. |
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| 22:40.19 | tensai | q_a_z_steve, otoh... |
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| 23:23.32 | q_a_z_steve | needs ISPConfig help, anyone want to take a shot at it? http://www.howtoforge.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33355 |
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