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| 16:24.40 | elg | does anyone know where i can get headphone pads? |
| 16:24.51 | elg | presumably it would be cheaper than getting new headphones |
| 16:26.09 | levi | That probably depends on the model of headphone. |
| 16:26.36 | levi | I am so frustrated. |
| 16:27.24 | elg | pretty standard sennheiser lightweight pad kinds |
| 16:27.45 | elg | on first glance maybe similar to this pair, though I don't have them with me to check the model number |
| 16:27.46 | elg | http://www.headphone.com/guide/by-manufacturer/sennheiser/sennheiser-px-100.php |
| 16:27.47 | brac | [Sennheiser PX 100 @ HeadRoom - Right Between Your Ears] |
| 16:27.52 | elg | they fold like that though (but mine are white) |
| 16:28.19 | levi | I've been working 13-15 hour days through the weekend since Wednesday or so trying to get this amplifier working, but it turns out there's a problem in the DSP code that I can't do anything about. :/ |
| 16:28.21 | elg | my ipod earbuds are broken. left ear is about 1/4 the volume |
| 16:28.28 | elg | bummer :( |
| 16:28.50 | elg | so it's back to these, which are actually quite nice and since they fold compact enough, but the pads are shot |
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| 16:39.04 | tensai | elg: duct tape and fiberglass insulation |
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| 16:41.12 | Lone_Wanderer | I am really curious about the location of the USB ports on my laptop. |
| 16:41.46 | Lone_Wanderer | (On the right hand side near the front - right where my mouse is. When I plug things in they get in the way.) |
| 16:42.28 | elg | sounds like you figured out where they are |
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| 16:42.44 | elg | tensai: haha. maybe, though, some kind of hemp macramé... |
| 16:42.58 | Lone_Wanderer | Right, but... erm. |
| 16:43.06 | Lone_Wanderer | I'm wondering why they were put there, not where they are. |
| 16:43.26 | elg | probably because it was convenient on the mobo and they didn't care about the user |
| 16:44.35 | Lone_Wanderer | That makes sense. |
| 16:44.46 | elg | hmm, or yarn. |
| 16:45.04 | Lone_Wanderer | Heading to Best Buy in a bit to purchase a USB hub. Anything I should avoid or try to find? |
| 16:46.12 | elg | powered is good |
| 16:46.18 | elg | but may not be necessary |
| 16:46.22 | elg | usb ports are a bonus |
| 16:46.30 | elg | size and price... |
| 16:47.27 | elg | has http://www.amazon.com/BELKIN-F5U234-APL-S-Port-USB-Hub/dp/B0009F9F8E from best buy and it works fine |
| 16:48.23 | Lone_Wanderer | Powered as in you plug it in and/or provide batteries? |
| 16:48.29 | elg | plug in |
| 16:48.46 | Lone_Wanderer | Ahh. I'll have to get a power strip too then. I need one of those anyway. |
| 16:49.10 | elg | you may not need powered (yet) but trust me it'll come in handy some day |
| 16:49.25 | Lone_Wanderer | Oh, I don't think it'll take long. |
| 16:49.53 | elg | there are some kinds that take power from the host by using two usb ports |
| 16:50.05 | elg | i have one of those at home. works fine for a desktop but is kind of silly for a laptop |
| 16:50.29 | elg | also note that some things just don't play with hubs, like my usb midi kb |
| 16:50.38 | Lone_Wanderer | mmkay |
| 16:50.44 | Lone_Wanderer | I'll have two spare ports anyway |
| 16:50.59 | Lone_Wanderer | also, the military's password policy is retarded. I don't know a single person who actually uses it as intended. |
| 16:57.09 | jshipley1 | for a usb hub, look for this: http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/accessories/9223/ |
| 16:57.09 | brac | [ThinkGeek :: Doctor Who Tardis 4 Port USB Hub] |
| 16:59.09 | jshipley1 | Lone_Wanderer: that's certainly an unrelated note :) |
| 17:00.08 | jshipley1 | I agree though. When I went in for a CAC, the guy there said most people just use their birthday as a pin. Great security, guys. |
| 17:01.01 | jshipley1 | Everybody I know just uses KeePassX to store their passwords. |
| 17:01.39 | Lone_Wanderer | doesn't know what KeePassX is. |
| 17:02.02 | elg | is it related to kleenex? |
| 17:02.07 | Lone_Wanderer | I meant the AKO password though. The requirements are enough to make it secure, on its own, but they also make it impossible to memorize. |
| 17:02.09 | jshipley | http://www.keepassx.org/ |
| 17:02.22 | Lone_Wanderer | So people write them down, or use the same password repeatedly and just add a digit to the end of it |
| 17:02.51 | Lone_Wanderer | then increment the digit every time they have to change their PW |
| 17:03.02 | Lone_Wanderer | So the policy defeats itself. |
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| 17:09.07 | jshipley | keepass is a password protected database you run on your computer. You can have complex, random passwords, and be able to access them with an easier to remember password. |
| 17:11.39 | Lone_Wanderer | cool |
| 17:13.04 | jshipley | It's a little cumbersome when you have keepass on one computer, but you have to type in the password on the other computer, but it's a pretty decent program |
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| 17:16.46 | Lone_Wanderer | I've always wondered how secure CAC readers really are. |
| 17:17.05 | Lone_Wanderer | Couldn't you just plug in one of those USB key capturing dongles between the CAC reader and the machine and capture all the traffic |
| 17:17.13 | Lone_Wanderer | then use what you captured to recreate it later? |
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| 17:20.17 | RyanE | If anyone is interested in free tickets to the Bells on Temple Square Easter bell concert (April 10, 7:30pm in the Tabernacle), they're available at lds.org/events. |
| 17:21.09 | mrpull1 | has anybody here used Ultramonkey? |
| 17:29.57 | mrpull1 | I used Ultramonkey before Piranha was free |
| 17:30.03 | mrpull1 | is Piranha worth using? |
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| 17:35.26 | fozzmoo | Looks like linux-ha w/ value added. |
| 17:36.02 | fozzmoo | Doesn't look recently maintained. :( |
| 17:36.11 | fozzmoo | Their most-recent downloads are for RHEL3. |
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| 17:49.09 | mrpull1 | fozzmoo: yeah. It seems to me that there would be more demand (and thus more supply) for a Free F5 BigIP alternative |
| 17:49.24 | fozzmoo | nods |
| 17:49.34 | mrpull1 | ultramonkey was a nice all in one wrapper around LVS + heartbeat |
| 17:49.49 | mrpull1 | piranha seems to be the closest thing that is maintained |
| 17:49.56 | mrpull1 | but it isn't really _updated_ |
| 17:50.04 | fozzmoo | I wonder why it's not being maintained . |
| 17:50.28 | mrpull1 | there is an offshoot ultramonkeyL7 that appears to be active-ish |
| 17:50.47 | RyanE | someone got the monkey off their back. :) |
| 17:54.56 | mrpull1 | looking at the UML7 site, they have RPM's for the older UM for RHEL4 and 6 |
| 17:54.58 | mrpull1 | 5 |
| 17:56.47 | fozzmoo | That's cool! |
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| 18:16.20 | brasto | what might cause root to have a bash process consuming between 50% and 75% of the wcpu, running for nearly an hour? |
| 18:17.08 | brasto | that's much too general... anybody can write a script that does that... what I meant was: |
| 18:17.25 | brasto | what ought I run to find out more about this bash process? |
| 18:19.01 | brasto | ps -auxww seems to have told me what I want to know |
| 18:19.14 | brasto | I'm just curious if that's what others use |
| 18:19.26 | nan0meter | f option to get parent id's? |
| 18:23.18 | brasto | that sounds good nan0meter |
| 18:23.46 | goozbach | ps -aux | grep |
| 18:24.39 | brasto | note that I'm using a dash because it's on freebsd, while Linux distros (all the ones I use) don't need the dash. |
| 18:25.27 | brasto | goozbach: or maybe ps -auxww | head |
| 18:25.35 | brasto | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:26.01 | toofer | It may be helpful to look at what files the process is touching with lsof. |
| 18:26.53 | brasto | true, toofer, especially if the script is named something like back_up_files_locally.sh (which it is) |
| 18:31.52 | toofer | So it could be a cron process running this script then. |
| 18:32.18 | brasto | yep, it is |
| 18:32.43 | brasto | and I'm moving it to middle-of-night instead of regular business hours |
| 18:32.55 | toofer | Cool |
| 18:34.29 | nan0meter | Another mystery solved by #utah. |
| 18:34.34 | nan0meter | That'll be $49.99 plz |
| 18:35.22 | toofer | haha |
| 18:36.39 | brasto | wait... not solved yet... it's a bigger problem |
| 18:36.50 | brasto | apparently, it runs every day at 10 pm |
| 18:37.01 | brasto | however, it takes longer than 24 hours to complete |
| 18:37.33 | nan0meter | ouch |
| 18:37.55 | toofer | Sounds like your script needs updated to do incremental backups instead. |
| 18:38.05 | nan0meter | ^-- what he said |
| 18:38.41 | toofer | Not really an ace on backup systems. I just use something like : |
| 18:38.41 | toofer | rsync -av --update --delete <source> <destination> |
| 18:39.09 | toofer | That's for just a couple of home compies though. |
| 18:41.32 | on5sl | can i bother you guys with a sript problem? http://pastebin.com/d3bf0d07 my for loop doesn't iterate for each line in the output of my ls command... :( |
| 18:46.12 | brasto | either that, or, since it's a social network site, it isn't properly deleting original non-compressed versions of uploaded data, or it's backing up stuff it needn't (like stuff in /tmp), or any number of things. Now for toofer's lsof suggestion, and a little script reading... |
| 18:50.15 | tensai | toofer: you should check out rdiff-backup |
| 18:50.57 | toofer | tensai: Thanks |
| 18:50.59 | tensai | it's rsync with versioning, essentially |
| 18:51.11 | tensai | not sure if it's any faster but it's way cool |
| 18:52.22 | toofer | reading rdiff-backup features list |
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| 18:54.30 | toofer | That is way cool, thanks tensai. |
| 18:56.56 | brasto | does freebsd 6x have lsof |
| 18:56.59 | brasto | ? |
| 18:57.11 | toofer | yes |
| 18:57.16 | toofer | you may have to install from ports |
| 18:57.53 | brasto | i wonder if i can sudo su - |
| 18:57.54 | toofer | I'm on 6.3 and it's here in the ports tree: /usr/ports/sysutils/lsof |
| 18:57.56 | brasto | ... |
| 18:58.43 | brasto | sweet, I can sudo su - |
| 18:59.07 | elg | ~dict sensical |
| 19:00.57 | brasto | ~wiki sensical |
| 19:01.48 | tensai | elg: sensible is the opposite of nonsensical |
| 19:02.06 | tensai | according to answers.com |
| 19:02.08 | elg | sensible is a sensible word |
| 19:02.14 | elg | sensical is, well, nonsensical |
| 19:02.35 | tensai | grading english papers now are you? |
| 19:03.05 | elg | no, just teasing the rdiff-backup homepage |
| 19:04.22 | brasto | you can find files with a specific size with find /path/to/wherever -size n |
| 19:04.59 | brasto | since find supports expressions for primary switches, and -size is a primary switch, can one do this: |
| 19:05.22 | brasto | find /path/to/wherever -size (> 1G) ? |
| 19:14.41 | brasto | nope, that find command doesn't work. How do some of you search for files larger than some size? |
| 19:24.21 | brasto | doh, I found it. You use a plus instead of a greater-than sign. |
| 19:29.41 | brasto | ls -hal `find . -size +1G` |
| 19:29.47 | brasto | that gives more info |
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| 20:37.29 | elg | ~heart last.fm |
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| 20:38.18 | jshipley | elg: have you used pandora much? |
| 20:38.42 | elg | ~heart $garbagemen is <reply>I ⤠$garbagemen |
| 20:38.43 | ibot | elg: okay |
| 20:38.49 | elg | jshipley: nope |
| 20:39.35 | elg | ~heart wesnoth |
| 20:39.36 | ibot | I ⤠wesnoth |
| 20:40.14 | jshipley | last.fm and pandora seem to be similar. I'll have to look into last.fm to see how it is different from pandora |
| 20:40.54 | tensai | elg: why so ⤠about last.fm? |
| 20:40.56 | elg | is listening to celtic music (Session A9 radio) |
| 20:41.32 | elg | point me to a celtic music station in las cruces. ya, that's what i thought ;) |
| 20:42.01 | elg | i listened to a song i wanted to buy (by Session A9) on thistlepod on the way in today |
| 20:42.14 | elg | i was bummed that they don't have any mp3s for purchase |
| 20:42.39 | elg | at least i can get a celtic fix from last.fm |
| 20:43.59 | jshipley | Michael Arrington of Techcrunch states, "Each allows you to find new music that you are likely to enjoy. Last.fm does this through analysis of what you listen to and like (and what others listen to and like). Pandora encodes different aspects of music and determines what you might like based on those factors.Pandora is easier to use because it takes absolutely no setup and streams music on the site itself. Last.fm uses ... |
| 20:44.06 | jshipley | ... tagging and has social network aspects, but you have to download the player to listen to music." |
| 20:44.38 | jshipley | from http://www.thetechbrief.com/2008/04/14/pandora-vs-lastfm/ |
| 20:44.45 | elg | is not interested in keeping a browser window open so that extra client is a pro |
| 20:45.06 | elg | i like that last.fm learns about my listening when I listen via itunes or my ipod |
| 20:46.06 | jshipley | I might start using last.fm a bit more... I wonder if I can hook it into xmms2? |
| 20:46.19 | elg | i imagine so |
| 20:46.22 | elg | there's a plugin for audacious |
| 20:56.54 | on5sl | nobody? |
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| 21:04.37 | mrpull1 | elg: check out openpandora for a client outside of a browser |
| 21:04.59 | mrpull1 | Pandora does a better job of finding me new music |
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| 21:05.38 | mrpull1 | doh. openpandora might be windows only. |
| 21:06.47 | mrpull1 | plus the iPhone pandora client friggin rocks |
| 21:07.43 | fozzmoo | pandora: The crappy internet music site? |
| 21:08.05 | mrpull1 | crappy? |
| 21:08.09 | mrpull1 | nah. not crappy. |
| 21:08.33 | mrpull1 | the only way I can imagine it being crappy is if you have crappy taste in music to seed it with ;-) |
| 21:08.35 | fozzmoo | I work by a guy who listens to some 70s rock channel. |
| 21:08.38 | fozzmoo | The music is okay... |
| 21:08.49 | fozzmoo | but it sounds like it's coming from a teeny AM radio turned way up. |
| 21:09.10 | fozzmoo | Or someone's phone on speakerphone. :) |
| 21:09.46 | mrpull1 | I've used the iPhone client in my car with decent (FM-ish quality... not quite CD quality) results |
| 21:10.00 | mrpull1 | and haven't had any complaints with the desktop client's quality |
| 21:10.17 | fozzmoo | It's fun trying to predict what's going to play next on that channel. |
| 21:10.30 | mrpull1 | PLAY FREEBIRD! |
| 21:10.47 | fozzmoo | Boston, Journey, The Who, Ozzy, Boston, Pink Floyd, Boston, Foreigner, Journey |
| 21:11.24 | fozzmoo | heh heh. |
| 21:11.30 | mrpull1 | sneak in a couple of your bands while he isn't looking |
| 21:11.35 | goozbach | fozzmoo: that's probobally a function of his cheap speakers than the client |
| 21:11.46 | goozbach | it's pretty good with a set of decent headphones |
| 21:11.48 | fozzmoo | goozbach: Perhaps. |
| 21:11.57 | fozzmoo | Do they have low-bitrate options? |
| 21:12.05 | fozzmoo | Maybe he's streaming like 8k audio. :) |
| 21:12.06 | goozbach | but sounds like tin-can with string from my laptop speakers |
| 21:12.29 | goozbach | my wife figured out how to get pandora working on the PS3 the other day |
| 21:12.37 | goozbach | she was pretty proud of herself |
| 21:12.49 | fozzmoo | Your wife rocks. |
| 21:12.53 | fozzmoo | But you knew that. |
| 21:13.05 | fozzmoo | I don't know it personally, of course. ;-) |
| 21:13.05 | goozbach | yup |
| 21:13.11 | goozbach | *snort* |
| 21:13.15 | fozzmoo | But, yeah. You snagged a nice one. |
| 21:13.21 | goozbach | is listening to pandora right now |
| 21:13.28 | goozbach | the "daddy yankee" station |
| 21:13.35 | mrpull1 | openpandora can submit listens to last.fm |
| 21:13.41 | fozzmoo | is listening to an unauthorized recording of Josh Coates. |
| 21:13.43 | mrpull1 | so it is a better discovery tool to me. |
| 21:13.54 | goozbach | regeeton! |
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| 21:23.39 | fozzmoo | Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged sold more copies in 2008 than any other year since its release in 1957. |
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| 21:34.38 | fozzmoo | Why are Utahns paying for porn?! |
| 21:34.43 | fozzmoo | I just don't get that! |
| 21:34.58 | elg | because they don't believe in free love? |
| 21:35.02 | fozzmoo | Maybe. |
| 21:35.17 | nan0meter | Too worried about catching viruses from pr0n in the wild. |
| 21:36.20 | mrpull | it's more taboo here |
| 21:36.30 | JoshH | they don't believe in stealing |
| 21:36.34 | mrpull | so they hide it better by going online |
| 21:36.44 | mrpull | other places they don't need to hide as much |
| 21:36.49 | fozzmoo | But why are they paying for it?! |
| 21:36.51 | mrpull | so they buy more conventional porn |
| 21:36.52 | fozzmoo | That's what I don't get. |
| 21:37.14 | elg | fozzmoo: what exactly is your context? |
| 21:37.27 | fozzmoo | http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=5744801 |
| 21:37.29 | brac | [ksl.com - Study: Utah ranks No. 1 for online porn subscriptions] |
| 21:38.03 | JoshH | i think you have to be somewhat net savvy to find it for free |
| 21:38.16 | JoshH | of course, i wouldn't know anything about that, but i hear that's the case |
| 21:38.20 | fozzmoo | hee hee. |
| 21:38.21 | nan0meter | lol |
| 21:39.08 | JoshH | in other states, the regular joes buy it from magazine/video stores |
| 21:39.10 | JoshH | here, that's banned |
| 21:39.19 | fozzmoo | That's a good point. |
| 21:39.19 | JoshH | so they subscribe online |
| 21:39.37 | JoshH | you can buy magazines here, but not videos |
| 21:39.49 | JoshH | unless you want the softcore they sell at all the normal stores |
| 21:40.11 | fozzmoo | All I know is I did some website work for a guy a few years ago who was doing webcam stuff... |
| 21:40.28 | fozzmoo | and he had to put his servers outside of Utah because his lawyer said the laws in Utah were too... vague. |
| 21:40.58 | goozbach | fozzmoo: they're probabally in the cage next to mine here in atlanta |
| 21:41.03 | fozzmoo | heh heh. |
| 21:41.17 | fozzmoo | Lots of steam coming off the adjacent cage? |
| 21:41.32 | goozbach | they literally do streaming porn videos for some 40-50 companies |
| 21:41.45 | fozzmoo | a friend just IMd me with his reason: Not enough brick and mortar to meet the demand. |
| 21:41.56 | goozbach | or at least that's what the sysadmin said |
| 21:42.11 | JoshH | i remember the movie buffs guy going to jail over some non-softcore videos a few years ago |
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| 21:42.16 | JoshH | what a joke |
| 21:42.19 | fozzmoo | goozbach: That's a shirt! |
| 21:42.26 | fozzmoo | "That's what the sysadmin said!" |
| 21:42.51 | fozzmoo | I'm going to cafepress it right now! |
| 21:43.33 | maquis | just stopped by during the wrong discussion |
| 21:43.44 | fozzmoo | maquis: Do you have any theories? |
| 21:44.08 | maquis | prefers to know as little as possible on the topic |
| 21:44.38 | fozzmoo | I don't think anyone here is (willing to admit they're) an expert. That's why we're all speculating. |
| 21:45.22 | maquis | dunno |
| 21:45.49 | fozzmoo | I want to know, are these all good Mormon guys that are acting out in private? Or are these the redneck jack-Mormon bar-hopper crowd clicking on AdultFriendFinder ads? |
| 21:46.09 | nan0meter | Yes. |
| 21:47.43 | manithree | Highest in SL, San Juan, and Sevier counties |
| 21:48.18 | manithree | Way to go Idaho |
| 21:49.33 | elg | fozzmoo: extrapolating from other content-delivery industries, say music, I'd guess that if someone is truly into the content they pay for a subscription |
| 21:49.38 | JoshH | if the survey was for gay porn, utah county would blow away the competition :) |
| 21:49.45 | elg | unless they're nuts like us who know how to find it for free |
| 21:50.01 | elg | but really, if you're joe schmoe with no computer savvy and you just want to hear the jonas bros, you buy it. |
| 21:50.04 | JoshH | i heard an anecdote a while back about how the gay 900 number industry considers utah county a gold mine |
| 22:01.43 | fozzmoo | JoshH: Maybe it is all gay porn. The story didn't say anything about the orientation of the content. |
| 22:02.09 | jshipley | Is it possible to manipulate a running flash applicationg? |
| 22:02.28 | JoshH | true, and the unnamed "large provider" probably has all sorts of content |
| 22:04.04 | Sargun_Screen | the kaiser medical super centers are weird. |
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| 22:04.52 | tuple | -chat |
| 22:04.53 | brac | Probably left over from what I want to do their calendaring, I think he broke the critical thinking skills, you may not have been pushing the drilling for oil and gas drilling in Utah's best interest to watch that twice, second time |
| 22:08.58 | Sargun_Screen | there was a content heatmap out there a while back, of where certain types of content buyers are clustered |
| 22:43.32 | maquis | -chat utah is |
| 22:43.32 | brac | utah is the same time is 1 dimensional, or everlasting, an illusion, or 2008.11.24 16:37:08 GMT |
| 22:43.36 | maquis | -chat utah is |
| 22:43.37 | brac | utah is crazy |
| 22:43.39 | maquis | -chat utah is |
| 22:43.39 | brac | utah is only 2 twelfths of the keyboard. silver caps on the Sllug list. Not aware of a waste. |
| 22:46.02 | maquis | -chat utah is |
| 22:46.02 | brac | utah is crazy land? |
| 22:46.05 | maquis | -chat utah is |
| 22:46.06 | brac | utah is full of risks. Most of the wife's imac, and it's the thought of that |
| 22:46.10 | maquis | -chat utah is |
| 22:46.11 | brac | utah is so prudish they had a taste, hair is falling out |
| 22:46.18 | maquis | -chat utah is |
| 22:46.19 | brac | utah is on its own, even for an entertaining website, at least. |
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