| 00:01.10 | sjansen | ~punish RyanE |
| 00:01.11 | ibot | ACTION forces RyanE to install and use Windows |
| 00:01.15 | sjansen | ~bury RyanE |
| 00:01.16 | ibot | ibot dumps 42 tons of dirt, manure, and fish heads on RyanE |
| 00:01.27 | sjansen | ~travolta RyanE |
| 00:01.28 | ibot | ACTION replaces RyanE with several craters in a multi-colored display of superior fire power |
| 00:01.59 | jshipley | I've worked with PHP, but I'd like to play around with Django one of these days. Something tells me that I'd like it better. |
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| 00:02.15 | sjansen | For the most part I love Django, but some of it's magic is brittle when I push it at the edges. |
| 00:02.42 | jshipley | sjansen: unfortunately, that seems to be true of most software |
| 00:03.32 | jshipley | I've felt the same thing working with .NET and Qt as well. |
| 00:04.16 | jshipley | Really, it would probably be extremely difficult to find a framework for any sort of software design that didn't have some shortcomings. |
| 00:05.56 | sjansen | If you have any interest in Web development, I strongly recommend checking out Django. |
| 00:07.13 | tensai | good interview with the django creators. http://twit.tv/floss34 |
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| 00:09.26 | Rolcol | Has anyone used JkDefrag on Windows? |
| 00:13.45 | RyanE | heh |
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| 00:41.54 | harleypig | Can anyone tell me why apache would be giving me a 500 error but nothing in the logs? |
| 00:42.02 | harleypig | Besides the fact that it hates me. |
| 00:49.33 | sjansen | Do 404 got to the log? |
| 00:53.56 | harleypig | he left ... |
| 01:20.41 | fugue88 | Died, apparently. |
| 01:21.34 | fugue88 | Or he's just 404 himself. |
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| 01:47.45 | harleypig | heh |
| 01:52.57 | fozzmoo | harleypig: if you're looking at a virtual host log, you may want to look at the main Apache server log. |
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| 02:35.10 | elg | i had a funny idea today. put some popcorn in the microwave and record the popping with a mic, then try to identify the pops and make a histogram of time to pop |
| 02:35.27 | elg | then try that with several power settings (along with notes like "burnt to a crisp") |
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| 03:12.50 | levi | elg: You need to get you some Blenheim Ginger Ale. |
| 03:13.23 | Zelut | I have been tinkering with taskset today for binding/limiting processes to specific CPU(s). Anyone know how to view which CPU(s) a process is using? |
| 03:13.45 | levi | elg: But in a pinch, Thomas Kemper and Archer Farms ginger ales have a pretty good ginger bite, though they're less dry than Blue Sky. |
| 03:17.24 | levi | Though I've really only had the low-sugar version of Blue Sky ginger ale, so I'm not sure what the regular stuff tastes like. |
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| 03:17.44 | levi | Zelut: Why are you binding a process to a specific CPU/ |
| 03:17.46 | levi | ? |
| 03:18.23 | Sargun_Screen | For fun. |
| 03:18.26 | Zelut | levi: the bosses at work want to limit processes to a number of CPU for licensing and resource management reasons. |
| 03:18.26 | Sargun_Screen | and profit |
| 03:18.44 | Sargun_Screen | I think contexts can make you do that |
| 03:19.00 | Zelut | the thinking is that if we can bind a process to a single CPU on a SMP machine we only need to pay a single-cpu license. |
| 03:19.44 | Zelut | outside of that though, personally, I think the regular scheduler should handle resource management between cpu just fine. |
| 03:20.12 | Sargun_Screen | what piece of software? |
| 03:21.07 | Zelut | junk like oracle, weblogic and some other bloated java apps. |
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| 03:22.29 | Sargun_Screen | Mhmm, tasty |
| 03:22.36 | Sargun_Screen | I say, try contexts |
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| 03:52.08 | Zelut | any PHP people around? what does it mean to "lose the PATH_INFO information"? |
| 03:52.44 | Zelut | someone mentioned to me that the method I'm using for URL rewriting causes it to lose the PATH_INFO. The site appears to be working fine, is this something I should be worried about? |
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| 03:59.10 | levi | Probably only if you want to use PATH_INFO. |
| 04:02.15 | Zelut | I don't know what PATH_INFO is used for. |
| 04:03.14 | levi | I didn't either, until about 5 minutes ago. |
| 04:03.26 | levi | I asked google, and I was enlightened. |
| 04:03.42 | levi | (as far as anything relating to PHP could be considered enlightening, anyway) |
| 04:26.35 | eightyeight | good-bye xen. hello kvm. http://www.redhat.com/about/news/prarchive/2009/agenda.html |
| 04:29.49 | levi | I still don't have a computer with a CPU that has virtualization support. |
| 04:30.48 | levi | My desktop at work is new enough to, but the BIOS doesn't support enabling it. |
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| 04:39.40 | eightyeight | enabling full virtualization you mean |
| 04:39.54 | eightyeight | you can still run para virt |
| 04:44.09 | levi | Of course. |
| 04:48.14 | bonez452 | I just dug out my laser jet iii p.. hooked it up to machine running 8.10 ubuntu.. intrepid is it? the printer set up just fine there.. but I can't get my windows box to see the 8.10 box. or that printer yet.. |
| 04:48.26 | bonez452 | where's the best place to look for how to get my networking configured? |
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| 04:57.13 | bonez452 | any ideas? |
| 04:57.30 | bonez452 | I still think ubuntu and debian.. could be easier to configure.. |
| 05:04.16 | levi | Sorry, I've had a printer with its own IP address for years. |
| 05:08.40 | bonez452 | levi: is it with a jetdirect device attached? |
| 05:08.50 | bonez452 | certainly a printer with its own IP is ideal.. |
| 05:13.41 | levi | No, it's a cheap Brother MFC inkjet printer. |
| 05:19.55 | tarrant | bonez452: cups? |
| 05:21.16 | tarrant | If you enable cups sharing (localhost:631), then you can add the printer in windows manually. |
| 05:22.17 | tarrant | So for me I use the location: 192.168.1.22:631/printers/Thoth with the driver "generic postscript/image driver" or something similar |
| 05:27.46 | tarrant | you also have to do some crap with adding the windows 'User name' as an allowed user in the cups setting. |
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| 06:10.51 | fozzmoo | Save the homeowners.... Save the World |
| 06:23.21 | levi | shudders at the thought of President Glenn Beck. |
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| 06:43.42 | fozzmoo | also shudders at the thought of President Glenn Beck. |
| 06:44.12 | fozzmoo | He'd be a fun press secretary, tho. :-D |
| 06:48.58 | levi | I worry about the grip on reality of anyone who seriously thinks people like Glenn Beck or Rush Limbaugh (or their left-wing equivalents) would make good Presidents. I mean, seriously. |
| 06:56.27 | JoshH | or cody judy |
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| 15:04.10 | tensai | free pancakes at ihop until 10am |
| 15:04.36 | ^Migs^ | aw crap |
| 15:04.43 | ^Migs^ | today I can't eat anything...having a colonoscopy tomorrow |
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| 16:10.42 | mrpull | ^Migs^: normally that is fast from midnight on the day before |
| 16:10.54 | mrpull | what kinda crazy doctor has you fasting for days before? |
| 16:12.40 | ^Migs^ | it's only one day before |
| 16:14.13 | mrpull | he's just teasing you |
| 16:16.05 | ^Migs^ | stupid doctors |
| 16:16.08 | ^Migs^ | I never did trust them |
| 16:16.15 | ^Migs^ | give me a shaman any day |
| 16:16.33 | mrpull | and you are letting this guy put a robotic snake in you |
| 16:16.58 | ^Migs^ | now you're making me nervous |
| 16:17.16 | ^Migs^ | the whole idea of a colonoscopy is weirding me out now |
| 16:17.26 | mrpull | ok. I'll stop being a dink now. it's routine and not a big deal. |
| 16:17.29 | ^Migs^ | why would anyone want to become a proctologist? |
| 16:17.39 | mrpull | $$$$ |
| 16:17.52 | mrpull | and a high tolerance of a-holes |
| 16:17.52 | ^Migs^ | I guess when you get right into a person, everything is equally gross |
| 16:18.04 | ^Migs^ | deep down, we're all ugly and slimy |
| 16:18.23 | ^Migs^ | except girls. Their bodies are filled with rainbows and muffins. |
| 16:24.48 | mrpull | true |
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| 16:35.31 | brac | forces Tene to eat all their veggies |
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| 16:46.50 | ^Migs^ | Man, I just dropped a fat deuce. Glad I got that out now rather than 2 hours from now in liquid form. |
| 16:47.15 | ^Migs^ | that's when I have to start taking my prep meds |
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| 16:48.10 | sjansen | Anybody with @ willing to kick ^Migs^ ? |
| 16:48.21 | sjansen | That's just _way_ too much info. |
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| 16:48.28 | ^Migs^ | Colon health is important. |
| 16:48.32 | *** mode/#utah [+o sjansen] by elg |
| 16:48.35 | ^Migs^ | uh oh |
| 16:48.40 | ^Migs^ | sighs |
| 16:48.41 | ^Migs^ | I'll just leave |
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| 16:48.54 | sjansen | ponders the significance of /kick vs. /kickban |
| 16:49.05 | sjansen | pouts |
| 16:50.09 | JoshH | huh |
| 16:50.26 | jshipley | I was in one channel where you got a /kickban for talking a lot. |
| 16:50.58 | sjansen | Would that be #idlerpg? |
| 16:50.58 | JoshH | kick first, ban second is the best policy |
| 16:51.11 | jshipley | As in, if you say things too frequently (maybe three times in a second), or if your line gets even a little long. |
| 16:51.48 | elg | -chat i was |
| 16:51.49 | brac | i was hoping you could know anything about the special case of catastrophic hardware failure. |
| 16:54.27 | sjansen | As it happens, brac, I know that catastrophic hardware failure is often amusing. |
| 16:59.47 | sjansen | ponders the possibilities for a reign of terror while he has @ and ChanServ is away |
| 17:00.19 | sjansen | ponders the consequences of launching a pre-emptive strike against emcnabb |
| 17:03.25 | emcnabb | ~lart sjansen |
| 17:03.25 | ibot | cats /dev/urandom into sjansen's ear |
| 17:03.36 | emcnabb | ibot, that's not going to do much |
| 17:03.50 | sjansen | Sounds like cutting edge Techno. |
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| 17:06.58 | JoshH | this techno i'm listening to now sort of sounds like /dev/urandom |
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| 17:28.00 | goozbach | Jayce^: http://comics.com/arlo&janis/2009-02-06/ |
| 17:28.54 | Jayce^ | heh.. |
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| 18:24.47 | brac | smacks Lone_Wanderer in the face with a burlap sack full of broken glass |
| 18:25.16 | Lone_Wanderer | brac is always so mean to me |
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| 18:34.10 | sjansen | ibot: onjoin #utah Lone_Wanderer |
| 18:34.10 | ibot | onjoin for lone_wanderer set by elg on Tue Mar 20 09:36:24 2007: -lart Lone_Wanderer |
| 18:34.22 | sjansen | Lone_Wanderer: Blame elg. |
| 18:34.30 | Lone_Wanderer | -blame elg |
| 18:34.39 | Lone_Wanderer | ~blame elg? |
| 18:34.39 | ibot | ACTION blames elg (and Canada) for all the evil in the world |
| 18:34.46 | Lone_Wanderer | There we go |
| 18:35.03 | sjansen | Personally, I blame Huckabee. |
| 18:37.09 | Lone_Wanderer | I think it's Buttars' fault these days. |
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| 19:50.59 | sjansen | puts on a scary mask and sneaks up on Migs |
| 19:53.16 | Migs | now's not the time to scare me. I'm using my prep meds. |
| 19:53.55 | Migs | who knows what'll escape |
| 19:58.32 | tensai | elg: holy cow. how big is this organ repository? |
| 19:58.56 | elg | abt 20 cds |
| 19:58.59 | elg | 16 are flac |
| 19:59.13 | tensai | 2G so far. not sure I knew what I was in for. |
| 19:59.26 | elg | 5G |
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| 20:17.06 | Jayce^ | now that's a nifty looking toy to play with : http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS9634061300.html |
| 20:17.36 | Jayce^ | that site is getting slammed now :( make has a link to it: http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2009/02/100_linux_wallwart_launches.html |
| 20:18.17 | brac | [MAKE: Blog: $100 Linux wall-wart launches] |
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| 20:36.19 | Sargun | levi, you might know the answer to this, Do you know of any USB devices for hobbyist experimentation that support (low-level) DMA? |
| 20:45.51 | bbeattie | Anyone have a p4 socket 478 cpu and fan they want to part with/sale? I need one pretty quick and I can't find one from newegg or anywhere but flea-bay. |
| 20:46.48 | Jayce^ | which ones are the 478? |
| 20:47.01 | RyanE | they have little pins on the bottom... or maybe not... :) |
| 21:01.19 | levi | Sargun: I'm not aware of any, sorry. |
| 21:01.59 | bbeattie | p4, northwood and prescott 2.4-3.2ghz, all single core, some have HT |
| 21:03.01 | levi | fozzmoo: I apologize for making a politics-related comment on your Facebook page. I'll confine them to your blog from now on, and I'll stop picking on Glenn. :) |
| 21:03.20 | fozzmoo | levi: Whoa. |
| 21:03.27 | fozzmoo | Why are you apologizing? |
| 21:03.40 | Jayce^ | hrm, I have an old 2.8ht that might fit that |
| 21:04.24 | levi | fozzmoo: For the mess it's made in the comments on that post. |
| 21:04.35 | fozzmoo | Oh. I haven't looked today. |
| 21:05.04 | levi | And I wish to never have any interaction with that David Baker fellow on the topic of politics. |
| 21:05.28 | fozzmoo | levi: Dave redlines in the passion department. |
| 21:06.00 | levi | I have a cousin like that. |
| 21:11.28 | levi | Passion is no excuse for lousy discussion. |
| 21:12.22 | elg | what is? |
| 21:12.34 | Migs | this is cool: http://cre.ations.net/creation/body-mod---turn-your-pee-blue |
| 21:12.36 | brac | [cre.ations.net - Creation: Body mod - Turn your pee blue!] |
| 21:13.05 | bbeattie | jayce^: cpu or the whole MB/cpu/fan set? .. I'd hate to split up a full set since there are plenty of people who could benefit from that but if it's just cpu and fan I'll buy it off you |
| 21:13.20 | Jayce^ | ahh, it's the full thing, little old dell box |
| 21:14.47 | Jayce^ | Migs: used some of that stuff in college in some brownies... hilarity ensued.. |
| 21:14.56 | Migs | could you taste it? |
| 21:15.05 | Jayce^ | nope |
| 21:15.07 | Migs | man, I wanna try it |
| 21:15.43 | Jayce^ | the chocolate and sugar helped mask it |
| 21:15.52 | Jayce^ | so, brownies weren't *as* good.. |
| 21:15.58 | Jayce^ | but hey, it was college, they went *fast* |
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| 21:16.40 | Jayce^ | also put h2o2 in the hair spray bottle.. |
| 21:16.47 | Jayce^ | a few other things too.. |
| 21:16.57 | Jayce^ | had a roomate that always bragged about the budget he was living on.. |
| 21:17.04 | Jayce^ | seemed to never need to buy anything :) |
| 21:20.37 | Migs | works great when he mooches all your stuff |
| 21:23.40 | tensai | grr. I can't get this stupid heat sink off. |
| 21:25.29 | levi | Here's an interesting post on implementing a regular language with a large alphabet, like Unicode: http://useless-factor.blogspot.com/2009/02/regular-languages-with-large-alphabets.html |
| 21:30.39 | sjansen | levi: So you're really getting into Factor, huh? |
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| 22:12.18 | manithree | I tried methylene blue in college after watching the MASH re-run where they used it. |
| 22:12.27 | manithree | it takes a LOT |
| 22:12.57 | Lone_Wanderer | Doesn't take that much |
| 22:13.05 | manithree | Maybe I got the cheap stuff |
| 22:13.08 | Lone_Wanderer | just a few microlitres |
| 22:13.11 | Lone_Wanderer | in your gel |
| 22:13.17 | Lone_Wanderer | ;) |
| 22:13.47 | Lone_Wanderer | (I know what you meant but it's also used to dye DNA when running gels.) |
| 22:13.58 | Lone_Wanderer | How much did you have to drink to turn your pee green? |
| 22:14.29 | manithree | I made brownies. Nobody noticed. I don't remember how much I used (I graduated from BYU in 1990) |
| 22:15.56 | Lone_Wanderer | aww :( |
| 22:17.26 | Migs | what a let-down |
| 22:22.26 | levi | sjansen: Factor is good stuff. |
| 22:28.24 | tensai | http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-anatomy-ext4/index.html |
| 22:28.25 | brac | [Anatomy of ext4] |
| 22:28.34 | harleypig | can anyone tell me why I would be getting no error messages in apache log files but getting a 500 error on the browser? |
| 22:28.43 | Lone_Wanderer | proxy? |
| 22:29.10 | Jayce^ | STDERR owned? |
| 22:29.26 | harleypig | Lone_Wanderer: no proxy that I can tell |
| 22:29.46 | harleypig | Jayce^: No, if I switch to another virtual host config everything works fine. |
| 22:29.59 | sjansen | tensai: http://lwn.net/Articles/320284/ |
| 22:30.07 | harleypig | If I switch both virtual hosts config on, then the other virtualhosts work ok, but not this one. |
| 22:30.33 | sjansen | Be sure to read the comments. |
| 22:30.44 | JoshH | what loglevel? |
| 22:31.08 | harleypig | sjansen: what comments? |
| 22:31.14 | harleypig | JoshH: default |
| 22:31.20 | JoshH | not sure what level shows 500's offhand |
| 22:33.34 | JoshH | set it to debug and look again |
| 22:34.25 | harleypig | feh ... I'm sorry .. I just realized I left off and important piece of informatoin. |
| 22:34.31 | harleypig | This is a mod-perl setup. |
| 22:34.49 | harleypig | The mod-perl seems to be the culprit, but I can't figure out why. |
| 22:35.02 | harleypig | Nothing is segfaulting, that I can tell. |
| 22:36.12 | JoshH | i don't know too much about mod-perl, but in my experience those errors are usually either bad perms on a .htaccess, or various cgi problems |
| 22:36.19 | Jayce^ | any perl vars set? |
| 22:36.37 | Jayce^ | ugh, hope not .htaccess |
| 22:36.37 | harleypig | No perl vars, no .htaccess files. |
| 22:37.15 | JoshH | change LogLevel to debug and restart apache, then check the log again |
| 22:37.37 | JoshH | and make sure you aren't missing a CustomLog or something |
| 22:39.10 | sjansen | Stop using mod_perl. Perl is dying faster than the BSDs. All the cool kids use Python these days. |
| 22:39.25 | JoshH | perl is cool, just not mod-perl |
| 22:39.26 | sjansen | I'll bill you for my services later. |
| 22:39.58 | sjansen | In these tough economic times, expert trolls aren't cheap. |
| 22:39.59 | harleypig | *blink* |
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| 22:41.19 | Jayce^ | forces sjansen to listen to the Polyphonic spree |
| 22:41.35 | harleypig | sjansen: apparently, bad trolls aren't cheap either. |
| 22:47.31 | Jayce^ | but harleypig is cheap |
| 22:53.50 | harleypig | fi' dollah .. me love you long time! |
| 23:12.05 | Sargun_Screen | he might be cheap, but is he easy? |
| 23:13.06 | RyanE | He colors his beard with 'Nice n' Easy', does that count? #45 - Speckled Bird Poop Grey, in case you were wondering. |
| 23:13.10 | harleypig | fi' dollah ... me love you long time! |
| 23:13.14 | Tene | harleypig: what about for seventeen dollar: http://media.funlol.com/content/img/seventeen-dollar-gangster.jpg ? |
| 23:13.40 | harleypig | fi' dollah! |
| 23:14.47 | jshipley | fi' dollah! |
| 23:14.52 | jshipley | fi' dollah footlong! |
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| 23:31.27 | unum | I took a break at a really bad time on that project |
| 23:31.44 | unum | I rewrote a bunch of code and some it projects came up before I could test the code |
| 23:32.03 | unum | I hadn't forgotten that I was planning to make changes to the data structure |
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